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Separation of Church and State Violated? |
Separation of Church and State Violated?
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/georgia/news-article_wmaz.aspx?storyid=25197
First Coast News - Jacksonville,FL,USA
Separation of Church and State Violated?
April 24, 2006 – 6pm
By: Kandace Raymond
One Central Georgia parent says he is going to the American Civil Liberties
Union, because he thinks a Houston County school is violating the
separation of church and state.
Bob Swecker says his 4th grader brought home a Bible from Miller Elementary
in Warner Robins a few weeks ago.
His daughter says a member of the Gideons group handed it to her in the
hallway at school. Swecker says he is very upset for several reasons: one
is that he is a Roman Catholic and the Gideon Bible is not the version his
faith recognizes. He adds at his home he can control what his 10 year old
sees, hears and is exposed to and says the school shouldn't have that same
authority. Lastly, Swecker says the school should notify parents about what
their children will be exposed to at school.
BOB SWECKER, CONCERNED PARENT:
"I find it not only usurping my authority, but very offensive to not only
my child, but to me, those other children that are there and the parents of
those children."
We also spoke with a school representative Monday. Beth Burris says they do
allow Gideons and other groups to leave literature out on tables for the
children to pick up at their discretion. She adds the schools do not allow
any group members to hand out the literature. Burris says the central
office is in charge of approving what groups can leave material for the
children to take home. At this time Burris says the only material not
allowed is advertisements.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: Separation of Church and State Violated? |
27 Apr 2006 10:37:41 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:26:19 -0500, wrote
(in article <kjiu42pavuoioksda1fvhnmh79c0r7j711@4ax.com>):
Separation of Church and State Violated?
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/georgia/news-
article_wmaz.aspx?storyid=2519
7
First Coast News - Jacksonville,FL,USA
Separation of Church and State Violated?
April 24, 2006 – 6pm
By: Kandace Raymond
One Central Georgia parent says he is going to the American Civil Liberties
Union, because he thinks a Houston County school is violating the
separation of church and state.
Bob Swecker says his 4th grader brought home a Bible from Miller Elementary
in Warner Robins
Does anybody know anything about the Warner Robbins area?
A family in Germany (Army) adopted me and this is the absolute best thing
that can happen to a guy in the barracks.
Humans for friends (all barracks rats are animals).
Steve - to this day - is one of the best all-around, most decent people I've
ever met and he was from Warner Robbins.
There's air force there and defense contractors but he mentioned, just once
in passing, that there were ten or eleven other guys he ran around with when
he was in high school and - out of that group - two were in the military, two
were in prison and the rest were dead. Steve wouldn've have been thirty or
thirty-one at about this time.
At the time I didn't really think much about it because that's a very common
- not every day but every once in a while - thing to hear. My radio
maintenance section chief in Korea was from Spanish Harlem (Noveau Rican, if
that means anything to anyone) and most of the people he "ran with" as a
teenager were dead (Juan was also - at that time - just under thirty).
[SIDEBAR: I had six Army tool boxes I was signed for and we didn't have keys
to them and Juan walked over to them and in less than a minute all of them
were ready for inventory. He looked up at me, grinning, and it was a lot
safer about 10 klicks from the DMZ than it was in NYC when he was growing up.
Gray
a few weeks ago.
His daughter says a member of the Gideons group handed it to her in the
hallway at school. Swecker says he is very upset for several reasons: one
is that he is a Roman Catholic and the Gideon Bible is not the version his
faith recognizes. He adds at his home he can control what his 10 year old
sees, hears and is exposed to and says the school shouldn't have that same
authority. Lastly, Swecker says the school should notify parents about what
their children will be exposed to at school.
BOB SWECKER, CONCERNED PARENT:
"I find it not only usurping my authority, but very offensive to not only
my child, but to me, those other children that are there and the parents of
those children."
We also spoke with a school representative Monday. Beth Burris says they do
allow Gideons and other groups to leave literature out on tables for the
children to pick up at their discretion. She adds the schools do not allow
any group members to hand out the literature. Burris says the central
office is in charge of approving what groups can leave material for the
children to take home. At this time Burris says the only material not
allowed is advertisements.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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