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21 Dec 2006 08:39:10 AM |
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Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation |
Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation
http://www.thetimesherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061220/OPINION03/612200324/1014/OPINION
I think the so-called "separation of church and state" greatly hinders our
country. Without church and religious influences in making laws, no one has
a reason to care about each other. All morals and basic principles are
based on religious beliefs about equality, fairness, and sovereignty.
When religious references are removed from courthouses and government
buildings, it really mars society. Even if you don't believe in a God, the
religious references in courthouses are just basic morals that any person,
religious or not, would have no problem observing.
It is hard to believe that in a moral society, some of the greatest moral
codes are being removed from government buildings. Government makes laws
based on general morality.
JOHN GRILLO
Columbus Township, Dec. 18
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| User: "NoGoals" |
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| Title: Re: Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation |
21 Dec 2006 01:25:37 PM |
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wrote:
Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation
http://www.thetimesherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061220/OPINION03/612200324/1014/OPINION
I think the so-called "separation of church and state" greatly hinders our
country.
....so say the Ayatollahs.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation |
21 Dec 2006 03:22:06 PM |
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On 21 Dec 2006 11:25:37 -0800, "NoGoals" <swknight02@yahoo.com> wrote:
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation
http://www.thetimesherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061220/OPINION03/612200324/1014/OPINION
I think the so-called "separation of church and state" greatly hinders our
country.
...so say the Ayatollahs.
Most religious leaders want separation - they don't want government
telling them how to run their religions.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation |
21 Dec 2006 03:51:04 PM |
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wrote:
Separation of church, state can only weaken our nation
http://www.thetimesherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061220/OPINION03/612200324/1014/OPINION
I think the so-called "separation of church and state" greatly hinders our
country. Without church and religious influences in making laws, no one has
a reason to care about each other. All morals and basic principles are
based on religious beliefs about equality, fairness, and sovereignty.
Morality is a subjective personal thing. Law and order has to be
neutral and accepted by everyone. Therefore the state has to separate
completely from moral or religious matters.
When religious references are removed from courthouses and government
buildings, it really mars society. Even if you don't believe in a God, the
religious references in courthouses are just basic morals that any person,
religious or not, would have no problem observing.
I disagree. What about "observe the Sabbath" or "only JHVH is god, and
all others are cursed"? Some like to rest on Sunday, others Saturday,
others Friday, others like everyday holiday and others are workoholics.
Some have no god, some have other gods, some have the same god with
different descriptions. Morality is a personal decision and has nothing
to do with law.
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