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11 Sep 2003 07:07:59 AM |
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Sept. 11th. . .RE: Evil is real |
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: Evil is real |
11 Sep 2003 07:20:49 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 GMT in alt.atheism, georgann (georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
I think it was Sir Thomas Moore, that saint immortalised in Robert
Bolt's film, who despite a tendency to have heretics thrashed in his
house, observed "silence gives consent" as the defence to the charge
that led to his death.
I am not entirely convinced that silence is the best honour we can
give those who died or those who continue to die as that disaster
continues.
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| User: "Micky" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: God is real |
11 Sep 2003 09:43:59 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59
GMT in alt.atheism, georgann (georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
I think it was Sir Thomas Moore, that saint immortalised in Robert
Bolt's film, who despite a tendency to have heretics thrashed in his
house, observed "silence gives consent" as the defence to the charge
that led to his death.
I am not entirely convinced that silence is the best honour we can
give those who died or those who continue to die as that disaster
continues.
Concerning the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only perfect man to have ever
lived historian Philip Schaff said;
"His zeal never degenerated into passion, nor His constancy into
obstinancy, nor His benevolence into weakness, nor His tenderness into
sentimentality. His unworldliness was free from indifference and
unsocialability, His dignity from pride and presumption, His affectibility
from undue familiarity, His self-denial from moroseness, His temperance
from austerity, His combined child-like innocency with manly strength,
absorbing devotion to God with untiring interest in the welfare of man,
tender love to the sinner with uncompromising severity against sin,
commending dignity with winning humility, fearless courage with wise
caution, unyielding firmness with sweet gentleness."
How could anyone find fault with Him unless they were demonic?
Ummm i don't see any humor in the people that died on 9-11 !!!
And even though I'm not perfect and I've done some stupid ***** , even "I"
AM NOT a chicken ***** little puke like you !!! I don't care if you do or
you don't belive
in God, The people that died that day and the people they left behind
suffered a terrible
loss and i can't see how even a twit like you could bend and twist that
sorrow around
into in your mind as a fucking joke.
Hey toilet face wanna hear something even more funny ??? Let's meet face
to face and see
how quick i can knock you off your feet !
-=-
This message was posted via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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| User: "Del" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: God is real |
11 Sep 2003 12:53:37 PM |
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(Micky) wrote in message news:<6GVDOENF37875.4472106481@anonymous>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>wrote:
-=snip=-
Hey toilet face wanna hear something even more funny ??? Let's meet face
to face and see
how quick i can knock you off your feet !
Sez the guy who used "two or more anonymous remailing services"
to post. Now THAT'S funny.
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: God is real |
11 Sep 2003 01:02:44 PM |
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(Del) wrote:
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Micky) wrote in message news:<6GVDOENF37875.4472106481@anonymous>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>wrote:
Hey toilet face wanna hear something even more funny ??? Let's meet face
to face and see how quick i can knock you off your feet !
Sez the guy who used "two or more anonymous remailing services"
to post. Now THAT'S funny.
Yeah, he's quite a scary character, isn't he?
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: God is real |
11 Sep 2003 07:46:40 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:02:44 -0500, John Hattan wrote:
jfacts@earthlink.net (Del) wrote:
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Micky) wrote in message
news:<6GVDOENF37875.4472106481@anonymous>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>wrote:
Hey toilet face wanna hear something even more funny ??? Let's meet
face to face and see how quick i can knock you off your feet !
Sez the guy who used "two or more anonymous remailing services" to post.
Now THAT'S funny.
Yeah, he's quite a scary character, isn't he?
Oooo. I'm scared!
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "jwk" |
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11 Sep 2003 02:37:24 PM |
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(Micky) wrote in message news:<6GVDOENF37875.4472106481@anonymous>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59
GMT in alt.atheism, georgann (georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
I think it was Sir Thomas Moore, that saint immortalised in Robert
Bolt's film, who despite a tendency to have heretics thrashed in his
house, observed "silence gives consent" as the defence to the charge
that led to his death.
I am not entirely convinced that silence is the best honour we can
give those who died or those who continue to die as that disaster
continues.
Concerning the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only perfect man to have ever
lived historian Philip Schaff said;
"His zeal never degenerated into passion, nor His constancy into
obstinancy, nor His benevolence into weakness, nor His tenderness into
sentimentality. His unworldliness was free from indifference and
unsocialability, His dignity from pride and presumption, His affectibility
from undue familiarity, His self-denial from moroseness, His temperance
from austerity, His combined child-like innocency with manly strength,
absorbing devotion to God with untiring interest in the welfare of man,
tender love to the sinner with uncompromising severity against sin,
commending dignity with winning humility, fearless courage with wise
caution, unyielding firmness with sweet gentleness."
How could anyone find fault with Him unless they were demonic?
Ummm i don't see any humor in the people that died on 9-11 !!!
And even though I'm not perfect and I've done some stupid ***** , even "I"
AM NOT a chicken ***** little puke like you !!! I don't care if you do or
you don't belive
in God, The people that died that day and the people they left behind
suffered a terrible
loss and i can't see how even a twit like you could bend and twist that
sorrow around
into in your mind as a fucking joke.
Hey toilet face wanna hear something even more funny ??? Let's meet face
to face and see
how quick i can knock you off your feet !
-=-
This message was posted via two or more anonymous remailing services.
Hey Therion, a challenge from someone posting via two or more
anonymous remailing services. Real brave. Are you shaking in your
boots?
jwk
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| User: "Hanks Still Drunk & Fun" |
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11 Sep 2003 10:18:43 PM |
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(Micky) wrote in message news:<6GVDOENF37875.4472106481@anonymous>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59
GMT in alt.atheism, georgann (georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Concerning the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only perfect man to have ever
lived historian Philip Schaff said;
"His zeal never degenerated into passion, nor His constancy into
obstinancy, nor His benevolence into weakness, nor His tenderness into
sentimentality. His unworldliness was free from indifference and
unsocialability, His dignity from pride and presumption, His affectibility
from undue familiarity, His self-denial from moroseness, His temperance
from austerity, His combined child-like innocency with manly strength,
absorbing devotion to God with untiring interest in the welfare of man,
tender love to the sinner with uncompromising severity against sin,
commending dignity with winning humility, fearless courage with wise
caution, unyielding firmness with sweet gentleness."
How could anyone find fault with Him unless they were demonic?
Ummm i don't see any humor in the people that died on 9-11 !!!
And even though I'm not perfect and I've done some stupid ***** , even "I"
AM NOT a chicken ***** little puke like you !!! I don't care if you do or
you don't belive
in God, The people that died that day and the people they left behind
suffered a terrible
loss and i can't see how even a twit like you could bend and twist that
sorrow around
into in your mind as a fucking joke.
Hey toilet face wanna hear something even more funny ??? Let's meet face
to face and see
how quick i can knock you off your feet !
-=-
This message was posted via two or more anonymous remailing services.
The jezus freakery was funny enough.
But it got even funnier when this guy threatens face to face meetings
through multiple anonymous remailers!
LOL!!!
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: Evil is real |
11 Sep 2003 04:00:15 PM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BB85DDDD.35337DC6%chenault@mindspring.com...
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
Silence is odd, isn't it.
I somewhat doubt that the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis murdered by
Bush will get a minute of silence.
Meanwhile, the 1481 children killed by American missiles in the Al-Amariyah
civilian bomb shelter get plenty of silence.
And over half a million children under 5 were killed by UN sanctions, while
the world was silent (that's more than the Nazis managed).
Unless you believe that American lives are somehow "better" than Iraqi
lives, we'd need several weeks of silence for the victims of Bush's
attrocities.
Alun Harford
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: Evil is real |
11 Sep 2003 05:19:41 PM |
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"Tantum Religio Potuit Suadere Malorum" --Lucretius
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Alun Harford wrote:
(for those of you that don't pray)
Silence is odd, isn't it.
I somewhat doubt that the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis murdered by
Bush will get a minute of silence.
Meanwhile, the 1481 children killed by American missiles in the Al-Amariyah
civilian bomb shelter get plenty of silence.
And over half a million children under 5 were killed by UN sanctions, while
the world was silent (that's more than the Nazis managed).
Unless you believe that American lives are somehow "better" than Iraqi
lives, we'd need several weeks of silence for the victims of Bush's
attrocities.
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| User: "jack_the_mormon" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: Evil is real |
11 Sep 2003 08:51:28 PM |
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Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:<Pine.OSF.3.96.1030911171730.19241A-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>...
"Tantum Religio Potuit Suadere Malorum" --Lucretius
"So potent was religion in persuading to evil deeds" --Lucretius
(For you non-Latin speaking readers)
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| User: "Jeremy Martin" |
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11 Sep 2003 08:20:16 AM |
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(georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>):
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
Yes, because doing absolutely nothing to change the world into a
better place is a good course of action. Good job.
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Jeremy Martin
I have an aa number, but I'd have to look it up.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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11 Sep 2003 07:51:07 AM |
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In article <BB85DDDD.35337DC6%chenault@mindspring.com>, georgann says...
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
snip
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
Don't forget to have a "pity party" while you're at it.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Sep 2003 09:52:06 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 +0000, georgann wrote:
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
Or more, "god's" impotence as the planes hit anyway...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Sep 2003 02:12:41 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 +0000, georgann wrote:
moment of silence
For your fellow religionists perhaps?
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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11 Sep 2003 10:19:37 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 GMT the ET form known as
georgann<chenault@mindspring.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
Also an important day for Chile. Sept 11 marks the 30th year
anniversary of the 1973 Kissinger driven coup that overthrew an
elected gov in favour of the Pinochet military dictatorship. To
imagine that no evil results from US foreign policy is to be blind.
This from Amnesty's press release
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News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty
International
AI INDEX: AMR 22/010/2003 4 September 2003
Chile: After 30 years no more excuses for impunity
"This year's anniversary of the military coup should mark the full
commitment of the Chilean authorities to achieve truth, justice and
reconciliation in Chile by taking all the necessary steps to recognize
and respect the rights of the victims of human rights violations and
their families," Amnesty International said on the day that marks the
thirtieth anniversary of the military coup led by Augusto Pinochet
which established a military regime that governed Chile until 1990.
Thirteen years after the return of civilian government many issues of
concern -- such as the impunity for perpetrators of gross human rights
violations committed under the military government and the demand of
full reparation for the victims and their families -- remain
unresolved in the struggle to deal with the heavy legacy of gross
human rights abuses.
"The military coup of 11 September 1973 divided Chilean society and
set in motion a chain of brutal events whose repercussions are still
being felt 30 years later," Amnesty International said. "There have
been current calls for national unity, but true reconciliation will
not be achieved until truth and justice have been fully established."
The widespread and systematic 'disappearances', extrajudicial killings
and acts of torture that took place under military rule constitute
crimes against humanity. The fate of most of the 'disappeared' remains
unknown and the vast majority of those who committed human rights
violations remain unpunished.
The human rights proposal issued recently by the Chilean government
represents a positive step, but Amnesty International is concerned
that many obstacles remain in the way of the search for truth, justice
and reparation for which victims and their families have been
campaigning for the last 30 years. Chief amongst these obstacles is
Decree Law 2191 of 1978, known as the Amnesty Law, which provides
immunity from prosecution for military personnel implicated in human
rights abuses following the coup until March 1978.
"This law, which has obstructed truth and justice for 25 years, is
incompatible with the obligations of the Chilean State under
international law." Amnesty International added "The law should be
ruled null and void."
"The wide jurisdiction of military courts represents another hindrance
to the pursuit of truth and justice." Amnesty International stressed.
This jurisdiction must be reduced to exclude human rights violations
and the necessary steps must be taken by the authorities as soon as
possible to fulfil recent proposals that all cases of human rights
violations committed during the military government be investigated in
civil courts.
The impunity of human rights violators must not be preserved through
any policy which could result in de facto amnesties or pardons for
human rights perpetrators or which grant immunity from prosecution to
members of the military who argue that they were acting under orders.
Amnesty International reminds the authorities that the defence of
superior orders to crimes against humanity is absolutely forbidden in
international law.
After 30 years of campaign, Amnesty International renews its call on
behalf of the thousands of victims of torture for prompt action by the
authorities to carry through its recent commitment to deal with this
most serious human rights violations through a programme of full
reparation and investigation.
Background information
One month before the 30th anniversary of the coup, President Ricardo
Lagos of Chile announced his government's plan for dealing with the
legacy of human rights abuses committed under Augusto Pinochet's
military government. These proposals finally addressed the issue of
the thousands of victims of torture, who have been calling for
official recognition of their suffering and reparations for this most
serious human rights abuse.
The combined findings of two government commissions established in the
early 1990s officially documented 3,197 cases of victims of
'disappearances', extrajudicial execution and death resulting from
torture under military rule. However, this figure does not include the
thousand of victims of torture who survived their ordeal.
Pinochet's ship of death: http://amnesty-
news.c.tclk.net/maabpT5aa0htRbdHV0ob/
View all AI documents on Chile: http://amnesty-
news.c.tclk.net/maabpT5aa0htSbdHV0ob/
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| User: "Charles R Ward" |
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12 Sep 2003 10:32:52 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 03:19:37 UTC, Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 GMT the ET form known as
georgann<chenault@mindspring.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
Also an important day for Chile. Sept 11 marks the 30th year
anniversary of the 1973 Kissinger driven coup that overthrew an
elected gov in favour of the Pinochet military dictatorship. To
imagine that no evil results from US foreign policy is to be blind.
Snipped but saved this for reading again later, also
the article "Remembering September 11th" by Rich Goranson
that follows.
I wrote this 2 years ago, started on the 12th the last
write time is 8:38PM 9/13/2001. I don't have a way with
words, especially not on demand, when they are needed
quickly. It was intended to be a letter to the newspaper,
but was never finished.
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Please People, Let's not be normal!
It's normal. Natural to want retaliation, revenge.
Vengence for what has been done.
We've seen images of Palistinians watching and cheering
as the towers fell. We felt anger, and that's natural.
Normal.
Am I the only one that remembers, during the Gulf War,
scenes of Americans watching and cheering as our "Smart
Bombs" zeroed in on their targets? Could anyone seeing
that have felt anger? It would be natural. Normal.
Before the Gulf War we were fed a story, a lie, "Babies
thrown from incubators", to ensure our rage against
Iraq.
Have those people that make us so angry not been told
stories.
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I guess what I was trying to get to was what I have
since learned is called "blowback".
Charles R Ward
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"I do live among my fellow atheists. I also happen to live
among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Pagans, Satanists
and followers of various other religions -- all of which
have a perfect right to live in the United States without
interference because of their religion or lack thereof no
matter how much it irks you." Liz
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Sept. 11th. . .RE: Evil is real |
11 Sep 2003 08:06:35 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
Nice. Using a terrible tragedy to take a shot at atheism and
bolstering your superstition with the inference that praying is
better.
Fucking *****.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "JPG" |
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11 Sep 2003 08:41:38 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:59 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
moment of silence
(for those of you that don't pray)
No forgetting that, in the final analysis, it was those that pray who were
responsible for the tragedy in the first place.
bye for now ... gone to the beach ... to contemplate God's creativity
Much better to contemplate and celebrate life, and how to live it peace with our
neighbours.
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