Religions > Atheism > Serial numbers may be required on bullets sold in California
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01 May 2005 12:49:16 PM |
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Serial numbers may be required on bullets sold in California |
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
By Adam Tanner
April 26, 2005 10:35 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's attorney general introduced
pioneering legislation on Tuesday that would require all bullets sold
in the nation's most populous state to bear tiny identification
numbers.
The bill, aimed at helping investigators solve crime, would require
ammunition vendors to submit sales records to a state registry starting
in 2007. Anyone bringing bullets into the state not bearing the tiny
serial number etched by laser could be punished for up to a year in
prison.
"We are losing too many of our young people to seemingly random
shootings and anonymous killers," California Attorney General Bill
Lockyer said in a statement. The bill "will strip criminals of their
anonymity and give law enforcement evidence it can use to quickly and
effectively solve more gun crimes."
If I'm ever shot in California, I'm glad to know that the cops can carve the
bullet out of my body and use its microprinted serial number to track down
my killer. Assuming, of course, that they can still read the serial number
on the mishapen and fragmented bullet. And assuming that the killer is using
legally registered ammo. I mean, a guy that would break into my house and
shoot me in the face wouldn't use illegal ammo, right?
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01 May 2005 04:57:47 PM |
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"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
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California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
If I'm ever shot in California, I'm glad to know that the cops can carve
the
bullet out of my body and use its microprinted serial number to track down
my killer. Assuming, of course, that they can still read the serial number
on the mishapen and fragmented bullet. And assuming that the killer is
using
legally registered ammo. I mean, a guy that would break into my house and
shoot me in the face wouldn't use illegal ammo, right?
Ah, but with so many householders being shot with their own guns, you'd end
up not only dead, but a convicted felon to boot, once the serial numbered
fragments were dug out and reconstructed.
R
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01 May 2005 01:23:28 PM |
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"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
This idea can be summed up in one word: CUCKOO!
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Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
www.liberalscum.com
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02 May 2005 10:06:05 AM |
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Liberals_HATE-America., wrote:
"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
This idea can be summed up in one word: CUCKOO!
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Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
www.liberalscum.com
Thank you for your contributions to this conversation. As always, right
or wrong, your concise analysis of the situation leaves everyone
breathless. And the civilized manner in which you present it is not
only a model of admirable behavior, but speaks volumes about your
upbringing - especially the close relationship you must have had with
your mother.
Kermit
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| User: "Bama Brian" |
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02 May 2005 01:21:45 PM |
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wrote:
Liberals_HATE-America., wrote:
"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
This idea can be summed up in one word: CUCKOO!
--
Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
www.liberalscum.com
Thank you for your contributions to this conversation. As always, right
or wrong, your concise analysis of the situation leaves everyone
breathless. And the civilized manner in which you present it is not
only a model of admirable behavior, but speaks volumes about your
upbringing - especially the close relationship you must have had with
your mother.
The bullet serialization idea _is_ CUCKOO!
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Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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02 May 2005 02:09:03 PM |
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On 2 May 2005 08:06:05 -0700, wrote:
Liberals_HATE-America., wrote:
"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:130vljvz8hf3b$.dlg@sec12-astroblaster.pepsi.com...
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
This idea can be summed up in one word: CUCKOO!
--
Liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being.
They are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
www.liberalscum.com
Thank you for your contributions to this conversation. As always, right
or wrong, your concise analysis of the situation leaves everyone
breathless. And the civilized manner in which you present it is not
only a model of admirable behavior, but speaks volumes about your
upbringing - especially the close relationship you must have had with
your mother.
Kermit
BEEEE-utiful.
I am keeping that one for future reference.
I fear however, that it probably went right over the head of your target.
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Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "towelie" |
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02 May 2005 03:15:17 AM |
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TV's Liberals_HATE-America., wrote:
"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
This idea can be summed up in one word: CUCKOO!
Wow, I'm in agreement with a GOP bot.
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A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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02 May 2005 11:33:43 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes. They cannot be compared in
terms of usefulness.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 May 2005 02:29:12 PM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes.
No kidding? How long did it take you to figure that out?
They cannot be compared in
terms of usefulness.
Yes, they can.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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02 May 2005 08:21:47 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes.
No kidding? How long did it take you to figure that out?
So then why are you comparing their usefulness?
They cannot be compared in terms of usefulness.
Yes, they can.
Compared to a gun, how useful is a car against a gang of thugs who have
you cornered?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 May 2005 10:24:59 PM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes.
No kidding? How long did it take you to figure that out?
So then why are you comparing their usefulness?
Damn you're stupid.
Are guns necessary to keep this society running?
No.
Are cars?
You betcha.
Thus, cars are more useful.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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03 May 2005 07:22:27 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes.
No kidding? How long did it take you to figure that out?
So then why are you comparing their usefulness?
Damn you're stupid.
Are guns necessary to keep this society running?
Yes, unless you want to be ruled by outlaws.
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| User: "Bama Brian" |
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03 May 2005 09:05:30 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes.
No kidding? How long did it take you to figure that out?
So then why are you comparing their usefulness?
Damn you're stupid.
Are guns necessary to keep this society running?
No.
Are cars?
You betcha.
Thus, cars are more useful.
BWAHAHA! ITIWOBB, "Eh, what a maroon! What a embezzle!".
Guns are necessary for the gummint to keep the massed armies of barbarians
from running over a hill at us, yelling and waving their copper swords! As
well as to keep the citizen/masses in line, and to arm the cops so they can
defend themselves from the citizens.
Not to mention giving 80-year-old arthritic grammaw a way to talk sense to
that 20-year-old thug who just kicked in her kitchen door.
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Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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| User: "RD The Sandman" |
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02 May 2005 04:18:36 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:d55v27$2in$1
@bolt.sonic.net:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars have serial numbers, moron. Cars are more useful than guns,
cretin.
Cars and guns have totally different purposes.
No kidding? How long did it take you to figure that out?
They cannot be compared in
terms of usefulness.
Yes, they can.
Only if you also include the purpose.
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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
School - Four walls with tomorrow inside.
"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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02 May 2005 08:25:17 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:d54epq$cqv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Bill Smith <quandaryNS@newsguy.com> wrote:
So big harry deel. If a person uses his gun properly and legally,
he has no reason to be the slightest bit concerned about serial
numbers on the bullets.
I don't have any problems with serial numbers on bullets, per se, but
when you think about it, there are problems with the concept.
How do you get criminals to use traceable ammo in their various
criminal enterprises when untraceable ammo is available right across
the State line in Nevada, or Oregon? The majority of those who kill
with a gun (something like 75%) are felons and cannot legally even own
a gun.
The majority of people who kill with a gun are morons.
Yeah, real men kill with their bare hands!
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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02 May 2005 08:07:44 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Bill Smith <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote:
They're smart enough to get untraceable guns.
No, they're not. That's why so many end up in prison.
They're not in prison because someone traced their gun using a serial number!
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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02 May 2005 08:19:39 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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The Sandman)" <rdsandman@(spamlock <rdsandman@(spamlock)comcast.net>
wrote:
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the rear
axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being pulled over
for having no license plate.
Putting serial numbers on an expendable product like ammo is a waste.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 May 2005 10:23:48 PM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the rear
axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being pulled over
for having no license plate.
Because they traced the truck to him via the VIN on the axle.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "RD The Sandman" |
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03 May 2005 06:45:10 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the
rear axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being
pulled over for having no license plate.
Because they traced the truck to him via the VIN on the axle.
Yes, they did because the vehicle was licensed for use on a public
thoroughfare, exactly as noted above. If that truck had not been
licensed, it would not have been traced to Tim McVeigh. Additionally,
his arrest had absolutely zero to do with that truck's VIN.
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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
School - Four walls with tomorrow inside.
"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 May 2005 08:21:43 PM |
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The Sandman)" <rdsandman@(spamlock <rdsandman@(spamlock)comcast.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the
rear axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being
pulled over for having no license plate.
Because they traced the truck to him via the VIN on the axle.
Yes, they did because the vehicle was licensed for use on a public
thoroughfare, exactly as noted above. If that truck had not been
licensed, it would not have been traced to Tim McVeigh.
And it wouldn't have been used to to carry the explosives.
You're attempt to argue that because serial numbers aren't perfect
that they must be useless is an idiotic argument.
Additionally,
his arrest had absolutely zero to do with that truck's VIN.
It's what convicted him.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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04 May 2005 06:38:17 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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The Sandman)" <rdsandman@(spamlock <rdsandman@(spamlock)comcast.net>
wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the
rear axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being
pulled over for having no license plate.
Because they traced the truck to him via the VIN on the axle.
Yes, they did because the vehicle was licensed for use on a public
thoroughfare, exactly as noted above. If that truck had not been
licensed, it would not have been traced to Tim McVeigh.
And it wouldn't have been used to to carry the explosives.
You're attempt to argue that because serial numbers aren't perfect
that they must be useless is an idiotic argument.
Additionally, his arrest had absolutely zero to do with that truck's
VIN.
It's what convicted him.
There was no one single thing that convicted him. Most of the evidence
incriminating him was circumstantial, although there was enough of it to
make a case against him. There was McVeigh's fingerprint on a receipt for
2,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate, an ingredient used in the bomb, and
explosives residue was detected on his clothing when he was pulled over
and arrested an hour after the explosion, among other things.
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04 May 2005 11:23:41 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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The Sandman)" <rdsandman@(spamlock <rdsandman@(spamlock)comcast.net>
wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the
rear axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being
pulled over for having no license plate.
Because they traced the truck to him via the VIN on the axle.
Yes, they did because the vehicle was licensed for use on a public
thoroughfare, exactly as noted above. If that truck had not been
licensed, it would not have been traced to Tim McVeigh.
And it wouldn't have been used to to carry the explosives.
You don't know that.
You're attempt to argue that because serial numbers aren't perfect
that they must be useless is an idiotic argument.
I have not made that argument.
Additionally,
his arrest had absolutely zero to do with that truck's VIN.
It's what convicted him.
Yes, later. It had nothing to do with him earlier.
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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
School - Four walls with tomorrow inside.
"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
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| User: "Bama Brian" |
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03 May 2005 09:09:38 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Cars only use those serial numbers to id the car if it is to be
licensed for use in public thoroughfares.
Then why is Timothy McViegh now dead? Do you not recall that the
police traced the truck to him via a serial number stamped on the rear
axle of the truck?
McVeigh was arrested within an hour of the explosion after being pulled
over for having no license plate.
Because they traced the truck to him via the VIN on the axle.
That's not why McVeigh was arrested. The S/N helped convict McVeigh at his
trial, but that was quite a while later. McVeigh was stopped because of
his missing license plate and arrested during the traffic stop.
Or do you really believe the gummint has god-like powers and was able to
locate the bomb fragments, record the S/N's, and put out an APB - all
within an hour of the blast?
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Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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29 May 2005 10:57:27 AM |
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Anyone bringing bullets into the state not bearing the tiny
serial number etched by laser could be punished for up to a year in
prison.
that's not a real solution for life, let's start putting tiny serial
numbers on foreheads of gun owners ! =)
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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01 May 2005 08:16:03 PM |
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Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:p0ga71hov718v2rqpeiep2q820elhe9r2n@4ax.com:
So big harry deel. If a person uses his gun properly and legally,
he has no reason to be the slightest bit concerned about serial
numbers on the bullets.
Let's have the police put a camera in every room in your house, because if
you aren't beating your wife or abusing your kids you have nothing to be
concerned about, right?
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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02 May 2005 09:41:29 AM |
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"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:42757f53$0$78715$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
Let's have the police put a camera in every room in your house, because if
you aren't beating your wife or abusing your kids you have nothing to be
concerned about, right?
You wouldn't want that, Maaxipuss.
That might blow your cover as being the same troll who talks to himself as
"Kang".
LC~ Crazy troll Maaxx is so desperate for attention he even trolls himself.
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus
handicapped."~Elbert Hubbard
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| User: "bob young" |
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02 May 2005 12:54:04 AM |
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Maaxx wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:p0ga71hov718v2rqpeiep2q820elhe9r2n@4ax.com:
So big harry deel. If a person uses his gun properly and legally,
he has no reason to be the slightest bit concerned about serial
numbers on the bullets.
Let's have the police put a camera in every room in your house, because if
you aren't beating your wife or abusing your kids you have nothing to be
concerned about, right?
Better to stick a camera up your arse and examine your brains
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| User: "towelie" |
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02 May 2005 03:18:45 AM |
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TV's Maaxx wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:p0ga71hov718v2rqpeiep2q820elhe9r2n@4ax.com:
So big harry deel. If a person uses his gun properly and legally,
he has no reason to be the slightest bit concerned about serial
numbers on the bullets.
Let's have the police put a camera in every room in your house, because if
you aren't beating your wife or abusing your kids you have nothing to be
concerned about, right?
Don't stop with a camera, how about telescreens in every room of every home?
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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| User: "Kang" |
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| Title: Re: Serial numbers may be required on bullets sold in California |
01 May 2005 01:04:21 PM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in
news:130vljvz8hf3b$.dlg@sec12-astroblaster.pepsi.com:
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
By Adam Tanner
April 26, 2005 10:35 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's attorney general introduced
pioneering legislation on Tuesday that would require all bullets sold
in the nation's most populous state to bear tiny identification
numbers.
The bill, aimed at helping investigators solve crime, would require
ammunition vendors to submit sales records to a state registry
starting in 2007. Anyone bringing bullets into the state not bearing
the tiny serial number etched by laser could be punished for up to a
year in prison.
"We are losing too many of our young people to seemingly random
shootings and anonymous killers," California Attorney General Bill
Lockyer said in a statement. The bill "will strip criminals of their
anonymity and give law enforcement evidence it can use to quickly and
effectively solve more gun crimes."
If I'm ever shot in California, I'm glad to know that the cops can carve
the bullet out of my body and use its microprinted serial number to
track down my killer. Assuming, of course, that they can still read the
serial number on the mishapen and fragmented bullet. And assuming that
the killer is using legally registered ammo. I mean, a guy that would
break into my house and shoot me in the face wouldn't use illegal ammo,
right?
Serial numbers on bullets, huh? Guess I'll be shooting people with shotguns from now on.
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| User: "Chris Hayes" |
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| Title: Re: Serial numbers may be required on bullets sold in California |
06 May 2005 02:09:07 AM |
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Kang wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in
news:130vljvz8hf3b$.dlg@sec12-astroblaster.pepsi.com:
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
By Adam Tanner
April 26, 2005 10:35 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's attorney general
introduced
pioneering legislation on Tuesday that would require all bullets
sold
in the nation's most populous state to bear tiny identification
numbers.
The bill, aimed at helping investigators solve crime, would
require
ammunition vendors to submit sales records to a state registry
starting in 2007. Anyone bringing bullets into the state not
bearing
the tiny serial number etched by laser could be punished for up
to a
year in prison.
"We are losing too many of our young people to seemingly random
shootings and anonymous killers," California Attorney General
Bill
Lockyer said in a statement. The bill "will strip criminals of
their
anonymity and give law enforcement evidence it can use to
quickly and
effectively solve more gun crimes."
If I'm ever shot in California, I'm glad to know that the cops can
carve
the bullet out of my body and use its microprinted serial number to
track down my killer. Assuming, of course, that they can still read
the
serial number on the mishapen and fragmented bullet. And assuming
that
the killer is using legally registered ammo. I mean, a guy that
would
break into my house and shoot me in the face wouldn't use illegal
ammo,
right?
Serial numbers on bullets, huh? Guess I'll be shooting people with
shotguns from now on.
Or steal other people's ammo.
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Serial numbers may be required on bullets sold in California |
01 May 2005 01:11:56 PM |
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 13:04:21 -0500, Kang <kang@cnn.com> wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in
news:130vljvz8hf3b$.dlg@sec12-astroblaster.pepsi.com:
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5724329&cKey=1114547743000
California proposes requiring bullet ID numbers
By Adam Tanner
April 26, 2005 10:35 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's attorney general introduced
pioneering legislation on Tuesday that would require all bullets sold
in the nation's most populous state to bear tiny identification
numbers.
The bill, aimed at helping investigators solve crime, would require
ammunition vendors to submit sales records to a state registry
starting in 2007. Anyone bringing bullets into the state not bearing
the tiny serial number etched by laser could be punished for up to a
year in prison.
"We are losing too many of our young people to seemingly random
shootings and anonymous killers," California Attorney General Bill
Lockyer said in a statement. The bill "will strip criminals of their
anonymity and give law enforcement evidence it can use to quickly and
effectively solve more gun crimes."
If I'm ever shot in California, I'm glad to know that the cops can carve
the bullet out of my body and use its microprinted serial number to
track down my killer. Assuming, of course, that they can still read the
serial number on the mishapen and fragmented bullet. And assuming that
the killer is using legally registered ammo. I mean, a guy that would
break into my house and shoot me in the face wouldn't use illegal ammo,
right?
Serial numbers on bullets, huh? Guess I'll be shooting people with shotguns from now on.
No not even close. I am a serious competitive shooter, I shoot what is
called Bullseye.
I go to Joe's and I legally purchase 50 .45 cal ACP bullets. I sign
for them and the begging and ending serial numbers are recorded. I
walk home with them and am mugged. My bullets are used in several
crimes.
I get my balls busted and nothing happens to the mugger.
What planet do these people live in.
If the police arrive at the scene and the wife is murdered by a .38
and the husband, who's story keeps changing owns a .38.
Then.
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