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11 Jun 2006 12:56:45 AM |
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Serious Question |
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 11:15:00 AM |
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wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
Good question.
But I'm betting the israelis won't ever quite get around to answering it.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 12:02:31 PM |
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Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:e6hfi80bk@enews3.newsguy.com:
jtem01@gmail.com wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
Good question.
But I'm betting the israelis won't ever quite get around to answering it.
Why didn't the Palestinian suicide attacks or the homemade rocket attacks
that preceded the Israeli artillery attack break the truce?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There's no reason to take off without one"
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 06:09:24 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Why didn't the Palestinian suicide attacks or the
homemade rocket attacks that preceded the
Israeli artillery attack break the truce?
According to the fundamentalist Islamic Palestinian
Authority your god helped to install, they didn't
sanction any attacks.
From their view, it would be like if the United States
shelled innocent Canadians because underground
revolutionaries in Canada attacked some Americans.
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| User: "Adam H" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 01:38:34 PM |
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On 11 Jun 2006 17:02:31 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:e6hfi80bk@enews3.newsguy.com:
jtem01@gmail.com wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
Good question.
But I'm betting the israelis won't ever quite get around to answering it.
Why didn't the Palestinian suicide attacks or the homemade rocket attacks
that preceded the Israeli artillery attack break the truce?
Because there's no evidence that was done under the auspices of a
government, jackass.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 04:49:40 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:38:34 -0400, in alt.atheism , Adam H
<adam@mailinator.com> in
<mooo8216r9dif30telek5062llka8lgdfp@fe06.highwinds-media.phx> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 17:02:31 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:e6hfi80bk@enews3.newsguy.com:
jtem01@gmail.com wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
Good question.
But I'm betting the israelis won't ever quite get around to answering it.
Why didn't the Palestinian suicide attacks or the homemade rocket attacks
that preceded the Israeli artillery attack break the truce?
Because there's no evidence that was done under the auspices of a
government, jackass.
For what meaning of evidence? If either Hamas or Fatah cannot prevent
their people from attacking Israel then Israel has the right to defend
itself. There is plenty of evidence that Hamas and Fatah have been
training and funding and directing these attacks for years. I don't
see how it not being a "government" makes them immune from response.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 05:12:07 PM |
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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:nn3p82pp9h0b0h7gi898jucthp8k2ab402@4ax.com:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:38:34 -0400, in alt.atheism , Adam H
<adam@mailinator.com> in
<mooo8216r9dif30telek5062llka8lgdfp@fe06.highwinds-media.phx> wrote:
On 11 Jun 2006 17:02:31 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:e6hfi80bk@enews3.newsguy.com:
jtem01@gmail.com wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
Good question.
But I'm betting the israelis won't ever quite get around to
answering it.
Why didn't the Palestinian suicide attacks or the homemade rocket
attacks that preceded the Israeli artillery attack break the truce?
Because there's no evidence that was done under the auspices of a
government, jackass.
For what meaning of evidence? If either Hamas or Fatah cannot prevent
their people from attacking Israel then Israel has the right to defend
itself. There is plenty of evidence that Hamas and Fatah have been
training and funding and directing these attacks for years. I don't
see how it not being a "government" makes them immune from response.
For that matter, there is evidence that the "Israeli artillery attack"
was more likely a misfired Pal rocket.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1B021F3D
Thread and links from there.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There's no reason to take off without one"
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 06:23:53 PM |
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
For what meaning of evidence? If either Hamas or
Fatah cannot prevent their people from attacking
Israel then Israel has the right to defend itself.
Agreed. But they hardly ever do that. They killed a
bunch of people who in all probability had nothing
to do with any attack, and most likely created a
few new terrorists in the process (friends & family
of the victims).
Secondly, they placed the Palesinian Authority in
a position where they had to respond. In order to
maintain the view that they are the legitimate
ruling body & representatives of the Paletinian
people, they had no choice but to respond to the
foreign attack on their citizens & territory... and the
Israelis knew this. While claiming to want peace,
they have assured conflict.
Quite simply put: If the Israelis had evidence that
the Palestinian authority aided or approved of any
attack by isolated militants, they should have attacked
the Palestinian authority. Instead what they did was
to legitimize any attacks ordered by the Palestinian
authority.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
11 Jun 2006 04:34:35 AM |
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In article <1150005405.857015.30340@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
Because "good guys" never do anything "wrong."
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question |
16 Jun 2006 09:50:30 PM |
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On 10 Jun 2006 22:56:45 -0700, wrote in alt.atheism
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
It did, but the cowardly US press certainly isn't going to say that
about Israel.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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11 Jun 2006 04:48:37 PM |
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On 10 Jun 2006 22:56:45 -0700, in alt.atheism , in
<1150005405.857015.30340@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
New York Times
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: June 10, 2006
| JERUSALEM, June 10 - The ruling Hamas group fired
| a barrage of homemade rockets at Israel on Saturday,
| hours after calling off a truce with Israel in anger over
| an artillery attack that killed seven civilians at a
| beachside picnic in the Gaza Strip, according to
| Associated Press reports.
So, um, so why didn't the artillary attack break the truce?
The artillery attack was on a Hamas group that has been firing rockets
at Israel. Since is was not Hamas "proper" they could pretend they
were holding the truce. Most papers did not bother to report on the
attacks on Israel, only on the Israeli response.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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