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"Therion Ware" |
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10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM |
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Serious Question. Honest. |
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 12:04:32 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:11 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:11:07 +0100, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:55:52 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 11 Oct 2003 05:04:51 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:28:47 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2003 19:17:52 GMT in alt.atheism, John W (John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:11 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
Short answer: No.
Good answer in as much as it tells me all I need to know.
Congratulations. Glad I made you happy. Now turn it around. Could I
reveal ANY FACT to you, ANY FACT whatever, that would cause you to
believe in God and in His Son?
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You could be in trouble then. Psychic phenomena would no more
prove the existence of the Christian God than would the discovery
that one or more of the accepted principles of physics or
mathematics was wrong.
I only said I would begin to take the claim seriously. In all
fairness it would be a reason for further inquiry.
OK, I did not read what you posted carefuly enough
Such discoveries have been made in the
past and our knowledge and understanding of mathematics and
physics have grown as a result.
But if Bush gave up lying then I might waver for a bit ...
-
One should not push god too far.
He might make him worse ...
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Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "John W" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 04:42:59 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:11:07 +0100, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:55:52 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 11 Oct 2003 05:04:51 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:28:47 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2003 19:17:52 GMT in alt.atheism, John W (John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:11 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
Short answer: No.
Good answer in as much as it tells me all I need to know.
Congratulations. Glad I made you happy. Now turn it around. Could I
reveal ANY FACT to you, ANY FACT whatever, that would cause you to
believe in God and in His Son?
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You could be in trouble then. Psychic phenomena would no more
prove the existence of the Christian God than would the discovery
that one or more of the accepted principles of physics or
mathematics was wrong. Such discoveries have been made in the
past and our knowledge and understanding of mathematics and
physics have grown as a result.
But if Bush gave up lying then I might waver for a bit ...
Oh, get real, Lefty! Name one president you know who hasn't lied. It
goes with politics.
Now tell us YOU have never lied!
John W
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mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 12:06:38 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 09:42:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:11:07 +0100, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:55:52 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 11 Oct 2003 05:04:51 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:28:47 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2003 19:17:52 GMT in alt.atheism, John W (John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:11 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
Short answer: No.
Good answer in as much as it tells me all I need to know.
Congratulations. Glad I made you happy. Now turn it around. Could I
reveal ANY FACT to you, ANY FACT whatever, that would cause you to
believe in God and in His Son?
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You could be in trouble then. Psychic phenomena would no more
prove the existence of the Christian God than would the discovery
that one or more of the accepted principles of physics or
mathematics was wrong. Such discoveries have been made in the
past and our knowledge and understanding of mathematics and
physics have grown as a result.
But if Bush gave up lying then I might waver for a bit ...
Oh, get real, Lefty! Name one president you know who hasn't lied. It
goes with politics.
Now tell us YOU have never lied!
Lighten up just a little. As far as I can remember a sense of humor
is not a sin.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 07:24:47 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:38 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:42:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:11:07 +0100, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:55:52 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 11 Oct 2003 05:04:51 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:28:47 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2003 19:17:52 GMT in alt.atheism, John W (John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:11 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
Short answer: No.
Good answer in as much as it tells me all I need to know.
Congratulations. Glad I made you happy. Now turn it around. Could I
reveal ANY FACT to you, ANY FACT whatever, that would cause you to
believe in God and in His Son?
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You could be in trouble then. Psychic phenomena would no more
prove the existence of the Christian God than would the discovery
that one or more of the accepted principles of physics or
mathematics was wrong. Such discoveries have been made in the
past and our knowledge and understanding of mathematics and
physics have grown as a result.
But if Bush gave up lying then I might waver for a bit ...
Oh, get real, Lefty! Name one president you know who hasn't lied. It
goes with politics.
Now tell us YOU have never lied!
Lighten up just a little. As far as I can remember a sense of humor
is not a sin.
I don't find such comments amusing. Better save them for your equally
Left buddies.
John W
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 01:34:29 AM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:24:47 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:38 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:42:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:11:07 +0100, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
snip
But if Bush gave up lying then I might waver for a bit ...
Oh, get real, Lefty! Name one president you know who hasn't lied. It
goes with politics.
Now tell us YOU have never lied!
Lighten up just a little. As far as I can remember a sense of humor
is not a sin.
I don't find such comments amusing. Better save them for your equally
Left buddies.
Did god tell you what my politics are? Ask him about the book.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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14 Oct 2003 12:34:41 AM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:24:47 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Lighten up just a little. As far as I can remember a sense of humor
is not a sin.
I don't find such comments amusing. Better save them for your equally
Left buddies.
Sorry to see you Klansmen are offended. Does the shoe fit, Sjonny?
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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14 Oct 2003 12:12:00 AM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 09:42:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 03:11:07 +0100, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
But if Bush gave up lying then I might waver for a bit ...
Oh, get real, Lefty! Name one president you know who hasn't lied. It
goes with politics.
It only goes with the territory because millions of people are
resigned to having dishonest leaders. That is democracy in
action.
It took long enough to get rid of the feudal gangsters. Maybe it
will take a few more centuries before the power hungry sickos are
booted out.
Now tell us YOU have never lied!
As the years go by I tell less and less lies.
My idea of a good national leader would be someone who was even
more honest than me. And I accept that there are situations in
which lies are appropriate.
But Bush is practically one big lie.
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Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 AM |
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Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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11 Oct 2003 02:17:59 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Oct 2003 02:22:41 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<9nlgovkr6bjtlrgn71sucoh5u8ff0kl5ic@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Pastry Made Easy........(trying hard to keep a straight face)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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13 Oct 2003 02:39:08 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:22:41 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<9nlgovkr6bjtlrgn71sucoh5u8ff0kl5ic@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Pastry Made Easy........(trying hard to keep a straight face)
Over here we consider the fact that you call that thing a "Danish" to
be incomprehensible.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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13 Oct 2003 10:07:21 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:08 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:22:41 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<9nlgovkr6bjtlrgn71sucoh5u8ff0kl5ic@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Pastry Made Easy........(trying hard to keep a straight face)
Over here we consider the fact that you call that thing a "Danish" to
be incomprehensible.
Common mistake, it supposed to be pronounced DAN-ish because the
pastry bore a remarkable resemblence to this guy named Dan...
--
<http://www20.brinkster.com/beowulf9/gottod/Jesus%20Hates%20The%20Little%20Children.html>
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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13 Oct 2003 12:06:35 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:07:21 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:08 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:22:41 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<9nlgovkr6bjtlrgn71sucoh5u8ff0kl5ic@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Pastry Made Easy........(trying hard to keep a straight face)
Over here we consider the fact that you call that thing a "Danish" to
be incomprehensible.
Common mistake, it supposed to be pronounced DAN-ish because the
pastry bore a remarkable resemblence to this guy named Dan...
Ah, that explains it. I will pass it on.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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13 Oct 2003 09:43:35 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:35 +0200, Thomas P.
tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk said...
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:07:21 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:08 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:22:41 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<9nlgovkr6bjtlrgn71sucoh5u8ff0kl5ic@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Pastry Made Easy........(trying hard to keep a straight face)
Over here we consider the fact that you call that thing a "Danish" to
be incomprehensible.
Common mistake, it supposed to be pronounced DAN-ish because the
pastry bore a remarkable resemblence to this guy named Dan...
Ah, that explains it. I will pass it on.
Yep. That Dan was one sweet guy.
Greg the Reprobate
Missionary of Death
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greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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13 Oct 2003 06:38:38 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:08 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<nelkovkoi14dq4k8vik0r91i7bjn27658j@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:22:41 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<9nlgovkr6bjtlrgn71sucoh5u8ff0kl5ic@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
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Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Pastry Made Easy........(trying hard to keep a straight face)
Over here we consider the fact that you call that thing a "Danish" to
be incomprehensible.
I don't doubt that at all.
http://www.etymonline.com/d1etym.htm
Danish - O.E. Denisc "people of Denmark;" danish pastry is 1934;
shortened form danish is from 1963.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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11 Oct 2003 06:41:54 PM |
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Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
---
Something along the lines of:
"God doesn't do tricks." or
"Even if I gave you the answer, you still wouldn't believe." never
"I can't do it."
Also, "He doesn't do things that way. Ask for something less specific."
I'll even give a hint. The book is written in Danish.
Sounds like a sticky book.
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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11 Oct 2003 05:22:10 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd. Take it back to the atheists!
John W
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11 Oct 2003 06:44:38 PM |
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John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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11 Oct 2003 08:39:19 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
John W
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11 Oct 2003 10:07:31 PM |
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John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
"You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never."
-- me
Sonofagun, I was right!
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
We've already covered the "you wouldn't believe me even if I did do it"
excuse.
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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12 Oct 2003 09:59:26 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:31 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
"You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never."
-- me
You wish all Christians to perform like trained monkeys? I gave you a
sufficient, correct answer. I cannot help that it was over your head.
John W
Sonofagun, I was right!
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
We've already covered the "you wouldn't believe me even if I did do it"
excuse.
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12 Oct 2003 10:10:46 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:31 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
"You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never."
-- me
You wish all Christians to perform like trained monkeys? I gave you a
sufficient, correct answer. I cannot help that it was over your head.
Okay, that's now three conflicting excuses now as to why you cannot
answer Thomas's question.
1. "If a person did do it, he'd be a demon."
2. "You wouldn't believe even if I did do it."
3. "Christians shouldn't be expected to perform for you."
I guess my quote above was wrong. It would be more correctly stated as
"You'll get THREE excuses immediately. You'll get an answer never." :)
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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13 Oct 2003 04:36:20 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:10:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:31 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
"You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never."
-- me
You wish all Christians to perform like trained monkeys? I gave you a
sufficient, correct answer. I cannot help that it was over your head.
Okay, that's now three conflicting excuses now as to why you cannot
answer Thomas's question.
1. "If a person did do it, he'd be a demon."
2. "You wouldn't believe even if I did do it."
3. "Christians shouldn't be expected to perform for you."
I guess my quote above was wrong. It would be more correctly stated as
"You'll get THREE excuses immediately. You'll get an answer never." :)
And one person we both know thinks you are VERY clever! HINT: It isn't
me.
John W
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12 Oct 2003 04:05:33 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2003 01:39:19 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
That would be the "You wouldn't believe anyway" excuse. Not too
impressive.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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12 Oct 2003 10:00:40 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:05:33 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2003 01:39:19 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
That would be the "You wouldn't believe anyway" excuse. Not too
impressive.
I wouldn't expect you to be any more impressed with God than he or I
are with you.
Nuttin plus nuttin is nuttin. You're nuttin.
John W
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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12 Oct 2003 11:06:04 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2003 15:00:40 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:05:33 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2003 01:39:19 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
That would be the "You wouldn't believe anyway" excuse. Not too
impressive.
I wouldn't expect you to be any more impressed with God than he or I
are with you.
You may not have noticed but the post was directed at your response
not at god. Do you often confuse yourself with a deity?
Nuttin plus nuttin is nuttin. You're nuttin.
You are making yourself look so silly and childish. The above remark
is really sad coming from someone one assumes is an adult.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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13 Oct 2003 04:40:13 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:06:04 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2003 15:00:40 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:05:33 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2003 01:39:19 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:44:38 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:21:04 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
I would at least begin to take the claim seriosuly if you revealed to
me the name of the book lying by my computer. That should be really
easy. It is nothing like universal peace or having Bush make a speech
without making a mistake. When should I expect an answer?
You'll get an excuse immediately. You'll get an answer never.
Gods and phone-psychics have the same arsenal of excuses when it comes
time to show their abilities in an objective way.
You jokers specialize in the absurd.
And you haven't provided the name of the book next to Thomas's computer.
If someone besides Jesus, a prophet/end time prophet, or an apostle
performed that feat, you'd know you were in the presence of a demon.
When the end time prophets come, they will likely have t hose powers.
THEN you'll have a DIFFERENT reason to not believe! "Yeah, but the
guy walked on water and levitated on Saturday! I was at the baseball
game! I'm not gonna miss my team!"
That would be the "You wouldn't believe anyway" excuse. Not too
impressive.
I wouldn't expect you to be any more impressed with God than he or I
are with you.
You may not have noticed but the post was directed at your response
not at god. Do you often confuse yourself with a deity?
Nuttin plus nuttin is nuttin. You're nuttin.
You are making yourself look so silly and childish. The above remark
is really sad coming from someone one assumes is an adult.
And now, we'l have an ad hominem attack for awhile, since we've run
out of intelligent discourse.
That you attempt to set the tone of my replies does not mean that I go
along.
John W
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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13 Oct 2003 08:37:31 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bs3fov4pb7g3hefvfbm5fmf8oitgvo8fpv@4ax.com>...
On 10 Oct 2003 14:58:53 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<pfpdovkugui5rg9okmo44bojfolmn13o2s@4ax.com>...
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
There's only one thing that could convince me ... and that is ...
EVIDENCE.
So far, there has been none whatsoever.
Kenny L.
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
You're wrong above on both counts ... unfortunately :)
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
Unrealistic events contained in a book is not evidence. Again, you're
wrong about shoving things aside. You made that up, which is what
christians are known to do.
There are none so blind as you who choose to not see.
Again, you're wrong, and you made this up.
"You don't break God's laws; they break you."
Try to break out of this stranglehold then ... if your god is a
all-knowing, perfect planner and perfect designer, then obviously this
god planned and designed every single one of your mechanical actions
with PERFECT knowledge BEFORE you were even created PHYSICALLY. This
means that you cannot have any free-will to do things for yourself
since your actions are actually god's own actions...as they were
planned and designed before you were even physically created...step by
step..move by move..every single one of your actions.
Charlie Shedd
John W
You want to argue against this 'evidence' contained in your bible?
Kenny L.
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13 Oct 2003 07:16:14 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 06:37:31 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
Whatever you say.
John W
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bs3fov4pb7g3hefvfbm5fmf8oitgvo8fpv@4ax.com>...
On 10 Oct 2003 14:58:53 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<pfpdovkugui5rg9okmo44bojfolmn13o2s@4ax.com>...
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
There's only one thing that could convince me ... and that is ...
EVIDENCE.
So far, there has been none whatsoever.
Kenny L.
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
You're wrong above on both counts ... unfortunately :)
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
Unrealistic events contained in a book is not evidence. Again, you're
wrong about shoving things aside. You made that up, which is what
christians are known to do.
There are none so blind as you who choose to not see.
Again, you're wrong, and you made this up.
"You don't break God's laws; they break you."
Try to break out of this stranglehold then ... if your god is a
all-knowing, perfect planner and perfect designer, then obviously this
god planned and designed every single one of your mechanical actions
with PERFECT knowledge BEFORE you were even created PHYSICALLY. This
means that you cannot have any free-will to do things for yourself
since your actions are actually god's own actions...as they were
planned and designed before you were even physically created...step by
step..move by move..every single one of your actions.
Charlie Shedd
John W
You want to argue against this 'evidence' contained in your bible?
Kenny L.
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John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<a1gmovkbt0e78em2pcraeoti1o039f8blo@4ax.com>...
On 13 Oct 2003 06:37:31 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
Whatever you say.
John W
Interesting how you run away from things that you don't know how to
address because I exposed very OBVIOUS and fatal flaws in the
christian belief that even you can understand. You should be at least
kind enough to thank us for helping you to understand such simple
things. As you know, it doesn't TAKE MUCH thought to know that I was right
in what I said. Once you understand, and which I am sure that you do
now, it's like a light bulb turning on...and you wonder ... 'Hey! It's
so simple and trivial! why didn't I think of that before?!!!!'
When you say 'whatever you say', it simply tells me that you're too
afraid to face what you actually understood from my comments.
Kenny L.
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bs3fov4pb7g3hefvfbm5fmf8oitgvo8fpv@4ax.com>...
On 10 Oct 2003 14:58:53 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<pfpdovkugui5rg9okmo44bojfolmn13o2s@4ax.com>...
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
There's only one thing that could convince me ... and that is ...
EVIDENCE.
So far, there has been none whatsoever.
Kenny L.
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
You're wrong above on both counts ... unfortunately :)
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
Unrealistic events contained in a book is not evidence. Again, you're
wrong about shoving things aside. You made that up, which is what
christians are known to do.
There are none so blind as you who choose to not see.
Again, you're wrong, and you made this up.
"You don't break God's laws; they break you."
Try to break out of this stranglehold then ... if your god is a
all-knowing, perfect planner and perfect designer, then obviously this
god planned and designed every single one of your mechanical actions
with PERFECT knowledge BEFORE you were even created PHYSICALLY. This
means that you cannot have any free-will to do things for yourself
since your actions are actually god's own actions...as they were
planned and designed before you were even physically created...step by
step..move by move..every single one of your actions.
Charlie Shedd
John W
You want to argue against this 'evidence' contained in your bible?
Kenny L.
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