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"Therion Ware" |
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10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM |
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Serious Question. Honest. |
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 10:19:30 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <c23oov0ajf00s8qhkn207s7eut91mi0bid@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <qq0oov012mt0mhcpkhsdr0pidvq6veuj2m@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
He'll probably just claim it was a "typo" ;)
I think he'll start claiming that somebody sneaked into his house to
post it.
Alternatively, he could claim that it was the work of demons ;D
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 11:04:55 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:19:30 -0500 in alt.atheism, John Hattan (John
Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <c23oov0ajf00s8qhkn207s7eut91mi0bid@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <qq0oov012mt0mhcpkhsdr0pidvq6veuj2m@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
He'll probably just claim it was a "typo" ;)
I think he'll start claiming that somebody sneaked into his house to
post it.
Alternatively, he could claim that it was the work of demons ;D
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
In Muslim tradition, a djinn, should you leave you clothes inside out,
before going to bed, may take them and wear your form, doing all kinds
of evil deeds in your name and with your likeness. Perhaps the muslim
demons have taken a special interest in John...
But what amuses me most about these people who claim some knowledge of
demons is their lack of a primary source: they've never met one and
simultaneously claim they may be defeated by little more than a well
aimed prayer, but are simultaneously more dangerous that a top SAS
member on PCP with a fully loaded personal weapons cache about his
person.
And, of course, most of the "knowledge of demons" comes from
extra-biblical sources that mainly derive from the middle ages, or
much later. Ah - the Golden Dawn has much to answer for in some
ways....
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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14 Oct 2003 12:35:50 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
But what amuses me most about these people who claim some knowledge of
demons is their lack of a primary source: they've never met one and
simultaneously claim they may be defeated by little more than a well
aimed prayer, but are simultaneously more dangerous that a top SAS
member on PCP with a fully loaded personal weapons cache about his
person.
Bob Larson (back when he had a radio and TV show) was a champ at that.
He always provided lurid descriptions of horrible things that demons
could make people do, but when he ever did one of his prized
phone-exorcisms, demons always followed FCC regulations and even waited
patiently on hold while Larson did live commercials.
I miss those days. That was a funny show.
And, of course, most of the "knowledge of demons" comes from
extra-biblical sources that mainly derive from the middle ages, or
much later. Ah - the Golden Dawn has much to answer for in some
ways....
Spiritual Warriors are funny.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 12:56:03 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:35:50 -0500 in alt.atheism, John Hattan (John
Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
But what amuses me most about these people who claim some knowledge of
demons is their lack of a primary source: they've never met one and
simultaneously claim they may be defeated by little more than a well
aimed prayer, but are simultaneously more dangerous that a top SAS
member on PCP with a fully loaded personal weapons cache about his
person.
Bob Larson (back when he had a radio and TV show) was a champ at that.
He always provided lurid descriptions of horrible things that demons
could make people do, but when he ever did one of his prized
phone-exorcisms, demons always followed FCC regulations and even waited
patiently on hold while Larson did live commercials.
I miss those days. That was a funny show.
Was this pre, or post,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100475/ (1990)?
(Which I thought very amusing).
And, of course, most of the "knowledge of demons" comes from
extra-biblical sources that mainly derive from the middle ages, or
much later. Ah - the Golden Dawn has much to answer for in some
ways....
Spiritual Warriors are funny.
Of course. Unless you should have the misfortune to fall into their
hands. In which case in many cases it becomes "dead funny," where the
operative word is "dead".
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 01:09:22 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:35:50 -0500 in alt.atheism, John Hattan (John
Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
But what amuses me most about these people who claim some knowledge of
demons is their lack of a primary source: they've never met one and
simultaneously claim they may be defeated by little more than a well
aimed prayer, but are simultaneously more dangerous that a top SAS
member on PCP with a fully loaded personal weapons cache about his
person.
Bob Larson (back when he had a radio and TV show) was a champ at that.
He always provided lurid descriptions of horrible things that demons
could make people do, but when he ever did one of his prized
phone-exorcisms, demons always followed FCC regulations and even waited
patiently on hold while Larson did live commercials.
I miss those days. That was a funny show.
Was this pre, or post,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100475/ (1990)?
(Which I thought very amusing).
Pre. Larson's heyday was in the early and mid 90's. His show went into a
pretty steep decline around 1997, going pretty-much to an "all reruns"
format. It was finally mercy-killed in 2001.
I've got some old phony phone calls that my wife and I made to him at
http://www.shatnerology.com/phone.html
And, of course, most of the "knowledge of demons" comes from
extra-biblical sources that mainly derive from the middle ages, or
much later. Ah - the Golden Dawn has much to answer for in some
ways....
Spiritual Warriors are funny.
Of course. Unless you should have the misfortune to fall into their
hands. In which case in many cases it becomes "dead funny," where the
operative word is "dead".
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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14 Oct 2003 11:01:27 AM |
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In article <4u4oovohmbopsrupefobjmerie3cfbqps8@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <c23oov0ajf00s8qhkn207s7eut91mi0bid@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <qq0oov012mt0mhcpkhsdr0pidvq6veuj2m@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
He'll probably just claim it was a "typo" ;)
I think he'll start claiming that somebody sneaked into his house to
post it.
Alternatively, he could claim that it was the work of demons ;D
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
<BOGGLE> Are you SERIOUS?!?
Well, that's a new one on me ;/
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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14 Oct 2003 12:30:40 PM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <4u4oovohmbopsrupefobjmerie3cfbqps8@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <c23oov0ajf00s8qhkn207s7eut91mi0bid@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <qq0oov012mt0mhcpkhsdr0pidvq6veuj2m@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
He'll probably just claim it was a "typo" ;)
I think he'll start claiming that somebody sneaked into his house to
post it.
Alternatively, he could claim that it was the work of demons ;D
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
<BOGGLE> Are you SERIOUS?!?
Well, that's a new one on me ;/
Yeah. Next time you're at a secondhand bookstore, look for "In The Name
Of Satan" in the religion section.
The folks at "The Door" magazine gave Larson a special dishonorable
mention that year for coming up with the most creative new excuse for
televangelist behavior.
"It wasn't me that was caught banging his secretary. It was a demon
disguised as me!"
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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14 Oct 2003 12:41:56 PM |
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In article <lhcoovsk14pm5cbh5mog8e1jsbts3idm9o@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <4u4oovohmbopsrupefobjmerie3cfbqps8@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
snip
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
<BOGGLE> Are you SERIOUS?!?
Well, that's a new one on me ;/
Yeah. Next time you're at a secondhand bookstore, look for "In The Name
Of Satan" in the religion section.
Ya know, I was actually in a xian bookstore this past Sunday - Must admit it was
more than a tad creepy to see all those "Left Behind" and "Bibleman" videos as
well as a large assortment of xian bumper stickers. They also have a large book
section, so perhaps Mr. Larson's book was there amongst them ;)
The folks at "The Door" magazine gave Larson a special dishonorable
mention that year for coming up with the most creative new excuse for
televangelist behavior.
"It wasn't me that was caught banging his secretary. It was a demon
disguised as me!"
SNARK! Oh dear ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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14 Oct 2003 01:36:28 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:56 GMT in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
(Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In article <lhcoovsk14pm5cbh5mog8e1jsbts3idm9o@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <4u4oovohmbopsrupefobjmerie3cfbqps8@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
snip
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
<BOGGLE> Are you SERIOUS?!?
Well, that's a new one on me ;/
Yeah. Next time you're at a secondhand bookstore, look for "In The Name
Of Satan" in the religion section.
Ya know, I was actually in a xian bookstore this past Sunday - Must admit it was
more than a tad creepy to see all those "Left Behind" and "Bibleman" videos as
well as a large assortment of xian bumper stickers. They also have a large book
section, so perhaps Mr. Larson's book was there amongst them ;)
The folks at "The Door" magazine gave Larson a special dishonorable
mention that year for coming up with the most creative new excuse for
televangelist behavior.
"It wasn't me that was caught banging his secretary. It was a demon
disguised as me!"
SNARK! Oh dear ;)
As a matter of interest, tradition holds that demons who, as you
delicately put it, bang, men subsequently "change suit" and then bang
women, the object being to produce a demon child by delicate use and
manipulation of the stolen semen.
Which I think tells us something of the books written late at night
by guys who'd been celibate for decades.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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14 Oct 2003 01:54:12 PM |
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In article <s8eoovoq8m78jv2m162bsa7b4vb1v6j51c@4ax.com>, Therion Ware says...
snip
As a matter of interest, tradition holds that demons who, as you
delicately put it, bang, men subsequently "change suit" and then bang
women, the object being to produce a demon child by delicate use and
manipulation of the stolen semen.
Hmmm, well according to "The Dictionary of Witchcraft and Demonology", it was
supposed that demons stole semen from corpses prior to having sex with women -
This also explains why supposedly the women complained about "icy emissions".
Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww ;)
Which I think tells us something of the books written late at night
by guys who'd been celibate for decades.
LOL, it does indeed ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Oct 2003 11:48:59 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:36:28 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com>, Message ID:
<s8eoovoq8m78jv2m162bsa7b4vb1v6j51c@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:41:56 GMT in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
(Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In article <lhcoovsk14pm5cbh5mog8e1jsbts3idm9o@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <4u4oovohmbopsrupefobjmerie3cfbqps8@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
snip
That's certainly got precedent. Bob Larson said in one of his books that
demons would take physical form, dress up as Larson, and perform deeds
in his name.
<BOGGLE> Are you SERIOUS?!?
Well, that's a new one on me ;/
Yeah. Next time you're at a secondhand bookstore, look for "In The Name
Of Satan" in the religion section.
Ya know, I was actually in a xian bookstore this past Sunday - Must admit it was
more than a tad creepy to see all those "Left Behind" and "Bibleman" videos as
well as a large assortment of xian bumper stickers. They also have a large book
section, so perhaps Mr. Larson's book was there amongst them ;)
The folks at "The Door" magazine gave Larson a special dishonorable
mention that year for coming up with the most creative new excuse for
televangelist behavior.
"It wasn't me that was caught banging his secretary. It was a demon
disguised as me!"
SNARK! Oh dear ;)
As a matter of interest, tradition holds that demons who, as you
delicately put it, bang, men subsequently "change suit" and then bang
women, the object being to produce a demon child by delicate use and
manipulation of the stolen semen.
Which I think tells us something of the books written late at night
by guys who'd been celibate for decades.
/silliness mode..
/music by Rare Earth....
Lyrics by priests
I just want to celebate another decade of living
I just want to celebate another decade of emission.
I put my faith (rod) in the altar boys
they always get me off
after a few time I turn the other way
to find others to boff
Thats why I'm telling you
I just want to celebate, yeah, yeah
I just want to celebate, yeah, yeah
another day of boffing,
I just want to celebate another day of boffing
Had my hand on boys head
and he blew me away
but someones son is looking up at me
and he's here to stay
that's why I'm teling you
I just want to celebate another decade of living
I just want to celebate another decade of emission.
another day of boffing
I just want to celebate another day of boffing
Dont let it all get you down,
Dont let it turn you around and around
And around and around
Well I can't be bothered by Shawnna
and I can't be bothered by Kate, no no
I'm using up my time by feeling boys, every day
Thats why Im telling you I just want to celebate
Aw, yeah
I just want to celebate yeah yeah
Another day of boffing, yeah yeah
I just want to celebate another day of boffin, yeah
I just want to celebate another day of ejaculatin'
Dont let it all get you down, no, no
Dont let it turn you around and around,
And around and around, and around
Around round round
round and around round round round
dont go round...
(Please excuse me while I get sick)
Rare Earth - I Just Want To Celebrate
I just want to celebrate another day of livin
I just want to celebrate another day of life
I put my faith in the people
But the people let me down
So I turned the other way
And I carry on, anyhow
Thats why Im telling you
I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
Another day of living,
I just want to celebrate another day of life
Had my hand on the dollar bill
And the dollar bill blew away
But the sun is shining down on me
And its here to stay
Thats why Im telling you
I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
Another day of living, yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of living
I just want to celebrate another day of life
Dont let it all get you down,
Dont let it turn you around and around
And around and around
Well, I cant be bothered with sorrow
And I cant be bothered with hate, no, no
Im using up my time by feeling fine, every day
Thats why Im telling you I just want to celebrate
Aw, yeah
I just want to celebrate yeah yeah
Another day of living, yeah yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of livin, yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of life
Dont let it all get you down, no, no
Dont let it turn you around and around,
And around and around, and around
Around round round
round and around round round round
dont go round
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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15 Oct 2003 12:49:44 PM |
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Dont let it turn you around and around,
And around and around, and around
Around round round
round and around round round round
You spin me right round baby right round?
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Oct 2003 01:03:03 PM |
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On 15 Oct 2003 17:49:44 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert),
Message ID: <20031015134944.28427.00000991@mb-m12.aol.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Dont let it turn you around and around,
And around and around, and around
Around round round
round and around round round round
You spin me right round baby right round?
Only in the particular priest has a thing for infants.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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15 Oct 2003 01:44:14 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:08:56 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
I doubt it. Johny the Bappissed post. He doesn't explain.
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
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15 Oct 2003 07:40:00 AM |
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In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:08:56 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
I doubt it. Johny the Bappissed post. He doesn't explain.
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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15 Oct 2003 07:18:52 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:00 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:08:56 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
I doubt it. Johny the Bappissed post. He doesn't explain.
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
FRRRTTT!!! Behold, a miracle!
We must be getting bad weather, the loonies (Sjonny, Georgann et all)
are unruly today.
Thank you for at least reading <SQACK!!> Clarkie wanna bible!! thank
you thank you!!!
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15 Oct 2003 07:31:52 PM |
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Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:00 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
FRRRTTT!!! Behold, a miracle!
Damn, a pretty ripe miracle at that!
We must be getting bad weather, the loonies (Sjonny, Georgann et all)
are unruly today.
The loonies always get a little hinkey around Halloween. Must be the
demons stirring.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 10:01:17 AM |
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In article <rlprovsvo9jnp74s3bl49jomtfqipl7lvu@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:00 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
FRRRTTT!!! Behold, a miracle!
Damn, a pretty ripe miracle at that!
We must be getting bad weather, the loonies (Sjonny, Georgann et all)
are unruly today.
The loonies always get a little hinkey around Halloween. Must be the
demons stirring.
Whoopsie! My bad. I'll send them all back to their rooms ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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17 Oct 2003 05:58:23 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:01:17 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <1pyjb.24284$cJ5.3740@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <rlprovsvo9jnp74s3bl49jomtfqipl7lvu@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:00 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
FRRRTTT!!! Behold, a miracle!
Damn, a pretty ripe miracle at that!
We must be getting bad weather, the loonies (Sjonny, Georgann et all)
are unruly today.
The loonies always get a little hinkey around Halloween. Must be the
demons stirring.
Whoopsie! My bad. I'll send them all back to their rooms ;)
*Without* dessert? (You're a cruel woman, Robyn)
Jesus pouts and runs back to his room and slams the door. "Just you
wait," he rages. "Just you wait until my dad gets me out of here and
I'll kill you all!"
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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15 Oct 2003 08:34:47 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:08:56 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
I doubt it. Johny the Bappissed post. He doesn't explain.
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
I was a friggin' god after those enchiladas last night.
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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15 Oct 2003 10:41:25 AM |
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In article <u6jqovga8sdfocr9aj9lg8gccjjsvilss4@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <sp9pov4psu0gt9vijm2s0a9iaungna0ldv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:08:56 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
I doubt it. Johny the Bappissed post. He doesn't explain.
If an oversized oil fire already is a miracle, or a priest abusing
little boys or girls is a miracle, then my farts are a bloody miracle
as well.
Would that make my husband a miracle worker? ;D
I was a friggin' god after those enchiladas last night.
LOL!!! Oh DEAR!
When my husband came home from his fishing trip, he said it felt like he'd been
living on Scotch bonnet peppers and fiberglass. Apparently the boys were eating
a lot of spicy food and consuming mass quanities of beer. I shudder to think
what it must have been like being around them after dinner ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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14 Oct 2003 08:32:18 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:08:56 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <qq0oov012mt0mhcpkhsdr0pidvq6veuj2m@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:51:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
For example? Gimme one from the last ten years.
#1 homosexual/pedophile priests
That is a miracle??? Seems more like a serious crime.
#2 homosexual marriage
That is sensible, not a miracle.
#3 Christian charities closing
That is inevitable (see your #1 & 2), not a miracle.
I wonder if Weatherlincest is gonna return and explain how on earth any
of this could be considered miraculous.
Of course not! After all, it *is* a Christian.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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11 Oct 2003 06:12:01 PM |
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John wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:05:23 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Figinn wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:6kdgovcum0ir1eqlcnn0gc8pj1omv3kirv@4ax.com...
On 11 Oct 2003 05:04:51 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:28:47 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2003 19:17:52 GMT in alt.atheism, John W (John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:11 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
Short answer: No.
Good answer in as much as it tells me all I need to know.
Congratulations. Glad I made you happy. Now turn it around. Could I
reveal ANY FACT to you, ANY FACT whatever, that would cause you to
believe in God and in His Son?
Yes: tell me the serial number of the cordless phone on my computer
desk. Surely such a trivial matter would be easy for a supposedly
omniscient deity to communicate to you.
If that omniscient deity chose to answer ;)
If he wants us to believe.
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
Define "miracle".
There are still miracles happening; however, in your current state of
dis-belief, you will hardly go to a church to witness one, will you?
I've been to church many times. I "witnessed" what they called
"miracles" over and over again.
God HAS revealed himself to many.
God told me that I was imagining him.
I've seen Him more times than I've
seen YOU!!
Where? What did He look like? What was your mental state at the time?
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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11 Oct 2003 08:45:40 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:12:01 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
John wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:05:23 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Figinn wrote:
"raven1" <psychedelephant@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:6kdgovcum0ir1eqlcnn0gc8pj1omv3kirv@4ax.com...
On 11 Oct 2003 05:04:51 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:28:47 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2003 19:17:52 GMT in alt.atheism, John W (John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:11 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
Short answer: No.
Good answer in as much as it tells me all I need to know.
Congratulations. Glad I made you happy. Now turn it around. Could I
reveal ANY FACT to you, ANY FACT whatever, that would cause you to
believe in God and in His Son?
Yes: tell me the serial number of the cordless phone on my computer
desk. Surely such a trivial matter would be easy for a supposedly
omniscient deity to communicate to you.
If that omniscient deity chose to answer ;)
If he wants us to believe.
There have been plenty of miracles to observe these past 2000 years.
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
Not just stories, but real time miracles.
Or a few I've experience. I've literally felt the hand of God on my
body. I've witnessed a healing. I've survived having two guns pointed
at me, and I've survived witnessing a murder. I've been in some 20
incidents in my life where I KNEW I wasn't going to survive; I'm still
here, 57 years later.
However, you need not concern yourself with MY miracles. Walk into a
Christian bookstore and look for the books on miracles.
There are still miracles happening; however, in your current state of
dis-belief, you will hardly go to a church to witness one, will you?
I've been to church many times. I "witnessed" what they called
"miracles" over and over again.
If you are talking about "charismatic/pentecostal churches" you didn't
witness any miracles in one of those.
How about my mom being eaten alive with cancer, every classic symptom.
24 hours before her "exploratory surgery" our family held a prayer
vigil that probably involved 500 people around the world. When the
doctor opened her up "just to be sure", she had no cancer. She had
been healed.
God HAS revealed himself to many.
God told me that I was imagining him.
I've seen Him more times than I've
seen YOU!!
Where? What did He look like? What was your mental state at the time?
YOur above remark tells me you aren't interested, and I have no time
or interest in playing. When/if you get serious, let me know.
John W
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| User: "Doug Semler" |
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11 Oct 2003 09:20:48 PM |
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In news:n6chov8eueqhqoa7u5qbjlmcaa19u0mj3h@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
<sigh> Magicians do this all the time. They have been doing this for
THOUSANDS of years. That's how they became priests in ancient cultures.
Not just stories, but real time miracles.
Or a few I've experience. I've literally felt the hand of God on my
body. I've witnessed a healing. I've survived having two guns pointed
at me, and I've survived witnessing a murder.
While the situations themselves are dangerous, they are by no means
unsurvivable. People have and do survive worse than having a couple guns
pointed at them, or witnessing a murder.
I've been in some 20
incidents in my life where I KNEW I wasn't going to survive; I'm still
here, 57 years later.
That's plain silly. Why are you still here if you KNEW you weren't going to
survive? Would it not be just as easy to presume that your knowledge is
incorrect, rather than "God got me out of it?"
There are still miracles happening; however, in your current state of
dis-belief, you will hardly go to a church to witness one, will you?
I've been to church many times. I "witnessed" what they called
"miracles" over and over again.
If you are talking about "charismatic/pentecostal churches" you didn't
witness any miracles in one of those.
Oh, so miracles are limited to only YOUR particular sect.
How about my mom being eaten alive with cancer, every classic symptom.
24 hours before her "exploratory surgery" our family held a prayer
vigil that probably involved 500 people around the world. When the
doctor opened her up "just to be sure", she had no cancer. She had
been healed.
Remission occurs in what, about 5% of all cancer patients. And your doctor
is a quack if he opened her up "just to be sure." I'll believe it is a
miracle if there is a published medical study on a tumor "disappearing" in
her. Preferably in NEJM.
God HAS revealed himself to many.
God told me that I was imagining him.
I've seen Him more times than I've
seen YOU!!
Where? What did He look like? What was your mental state at the time?
YOur above remark tells me you aren't interested, and I have no time
or interest in playing. When/if you get serious, let me know.
Your remark tells me you do not want serious discussion.
--
Doug Semler
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~doug_semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
I hate spam, standard email address munging applied.
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12 Oct 2003 10:09:38 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:20:48 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:
In news:n6chov8eueqhqoa7u5qbjlmcaa19u0mj3h@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
<sigh> Magicians do this all the time. They have been doing this for
THOUSANDS of years. That's how they became priests in ancient cultures.
< S I G H !! > I I can be childish, too) And the miracles of Jesus
were not/ are not "magic" which is trickery.
How then did Jesus raise a dead man who had been in the grave 4 days?
What you can't explain you explain away.
Why bother? Just don't believe, and stop posting your turds in the
baptist group? We aren't interested!
John W
Not just stories, but real time miracles.
Or a few I've experience. I've literally felt the hand of God on my
body. I've witnessed a healing. I've survived having two guns pointed
at me, and I've survived witnessing a murder.
While the situations themselves are dangerous, they are by no means
unsurvivable. People have and do survive worse than having a couple guns
pointed at them, or witnessing a murder.
I've been in some 20
incidents in my life where I KNEW I wasn't going to survive; I'm still
here, 57 years later.
That's plain silly. Why are you still here if you KNEW you weren't going to
survive? Would it not be just as easy to presume that your knowledge is
incorrect, rather than "God got me out of it?"
You are too silly to correspond with. Why am I not surprised? You
aren't searching for anything but an argument. Play that game in the
atheist pit.
There are still miracles happening; however, in your current state of
dis-belief, you will hardly go to a church to witness one, will you?
I've been to church many times. I "witnessed" what they called
"miracles" over and over again.
If you are talking about "charismatic/pentecostal churches" you didn't
witness any miracles in one of those.
Oh, so miracles are limited to only YOUR particular sect.
That was a DUMB reaction! You assume SO MUCH. Do you see ANYTHING in
a pretender church that resembles what Jesus did or what the apostles
did? No! It's all trickery.
How about my mom being eaten alive with cancer, every classic symptom.
24 hours before her "exploratory surgery" our family held a prayer
vigil that probably involved 500 people around the world. When the
doctor opened her up "just to be sure", she had no cancer. She had
been healed.
Remission occurs in what, about 5% of all cancer patients.
Which simply means that you will accept ANY EXTREME explanation rather
tHan "God." You AREN'T INTERESTED! P E R I O D !!!
Bye! You've wasted enough of my time.
John W
And your doctor
is a quack if he opened her up "just to be sure." I'll believe it is a
miracle if there is a published medical study on a tumor "disappearing" in
her. Preferably in NEJM.
How about deciding on how many pages, the color of the magazine cover,
and how many pictures. What makes you think that YOU make the rules
that govern God?
You have an ego the size of the Milky Way!
God HAS revealed himself to many.
God told me that I was imagining him.
You are a pathological liar, or you are a demoniac.
And we are done.
John W
I've seen Him more times than I've
seen YOU!!
Where? What did He look like? What was your mental state at the time?
YOur above remark tells me you aren't interested, and I have no time
or interest in playing. When/if you get serious, let me know.
Your remark tells me you do not want serious discussion.
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12 Oct 2003 02:46:20 PM |
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In alt.atheism on 12 Oct 2003 15:09:38 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:20:48 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:
In news:n6chov8eueqhqoa7u5qbjlmcaa19u0mj3h@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
<sigh> Magicians do this all the time. They have been doing this for
THOUSANDS of years. That's how they became priests in ancient cultures.
< S I G H !! > I I can be childish, too) And the miracles of Jesus
were not/ are not "magic" which is trickery.
How then did Jesus raise a dead man who had been in the grave 4 days?
He didn't. The Lazarus story comes to us from Egypt, where his
name was el-azarus.
I wouldn't expect you to know that, though. You're not smart
enough to do research.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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13 Oct 2003 04:45:52 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:46:20 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 12 Oct 2003 15:09:38 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:20:48 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:
In news:n6chov8eueqhqoa7u5qbjlmcaa19u0mj3h@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
<sigh> Magicians do this all the time. They have been doing this for
THOUSANDS of years. That's how they became priests in ancient cultures.
< S I G H !! > I I can be childish, too) And the miracles of Jesus
were not/ are not "magic" which is trickery.
How then did Jesus raise a dead man who had been in the grave 4 days?
He didn't. The Lazarus story comes to us from Egypt, where his
name was el-azarus.
I wouldn't expect you to know that, though. You're not smart
enough to do research.
LOL! You're funny. I worked on 2 separate Master's programs
simultaneously as my grad school.
And 3 different schools at the same time.
Your bs about the Lazarus story coming from "elsewhere" was only
invented to discredit Christianity; a total waste of time.
And your ad hominem is noted and duly pissed on.
John W
Don
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 06:38:11 AM |
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In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 09:45:52 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:46:20 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 12 Oct 2003 15:09:38 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:20:48 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:
In news:n6chov8eueqhqoa7u5qbjlmcaa19u0mj3h@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
<sigh> Magicians do this all the time. They have been doing this for
THOUSANDS of years. That's how they became priests in ancient cultures.
< S I G H !! > I I can be childish, too) And the miracles of Jesus
were not/ are not "magic" which is trickery.
How then did Jesus raise a dead man who had been in the grave 4 days?
He didn't. The Lazarus story comes to us from Egypt, where his
name was el-azarus.
I wouldn't expect you to know that, though. You're not smart
enough to do research.
LOL! You're funny. I worked on 2 separate Master's programs
simultaneously as my grad school.
Which still tells me that you didn't do the research on the
Lazarus story.
Your bs about the Lazarus story coming from "elsewhere" was only
invented to discredit Christianity; a total waste of time.
Nope. That's a nice rationalization. And it it duly pissed on.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 07:25:48 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:38:11 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 09:45:52 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:46:20 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 12 Oct 2003 15:09:38 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:20:48 -0400, "Doug Semler"
<doug_semler@REMOVEMEwideopenwest.com> wrote:
In news:n6chov8eueqhqoa7u5qbjlmcaa19u0mj3h@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
Define "miracle".
My $100 says if you ever saw a miracle, you'd know it.
Miracles, by definition, break natural law. Jesus walking on water
/levitating, Jesus raising a dead person after 4 days. Jesus healing a
lame man merely by commanding him to "get up!"
<sigh> Magicians do this all the time. They have been doing this for
THOUSANDS of years. That's how they became priests in ancient cultures.
< S I G H !! > I I can be childish, too) And the miracles of Jesus
were not/ are not "magic" which is trickery.
How then did Jesus raise a dead man who had been in the grave 4 days?
He didn't. The Lazarus story comes to us from Egypt, where his
name was el-azarus.
I wouldn't expect you to know that, though. You're not smart
enough to do research.
LOL! You're funny. I worked on 2 separate Master's programs
simultaneously as my grad school.
Which still tells me that you didn't do the research on the
Lazarus story.
Your bs about the Lazarus story coming from "elsewhere" was only
invented to discredit Christianity; a total waste of time.
Nope. That's a nice rationalization. And it it duly pissed on.
Don
Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z
John W
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