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"Therion Ware" |
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10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM |
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Serious Question. Honest. |
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "John W" |
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
12 Oct 2003 10:54:07 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.
John W
"Logic" doesn't.
Think about it.
Think about what?
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 09:03:24 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
For the same reasons you doubt all the pagan gods you have not
personally observed. Stop pretending our doubt is somehow more
unreasonable than your doubts.
That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.
Are we supposed to impose knowledge of God onto ourselves?
--Billy
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
16 Oct 2003 05:02:59 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 19:03:24 -0700, (Billy Goat)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
For the same reasons you doubt all the pagan gods you have not
personally observed. Stop pretending our doubt is somehow more
unreasonable than your doubts.
I don't doubt the "pagan gods". I know who they are. I just don't
"follow them." I follow the True God.
John W
That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.
Are we supposed to impose knowledge of God onto ourselves?
--Billy
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
17 Oct 2003 11:40:27 PM |
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John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ua5uov83odta8vb5p9c3aebd1vjs0avjql@4ax.com>...
On 13 Oct 2003 19:03:24 -0700, (Billy Goat)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
For the same reasons you doubt all the pagan gods you have not
personally observed. Stop pretending our doubt is somehow more
unreasonable than your doubts.
I don't doubt the "pagan gods".
So, you believe that pagan gods are real. Interesting.
I know who they are.
Non sequitur. I know who Superman is, but that doesn't mean I believe he exists.
I just don't
"follow them." I follow the True God.
The question was about belief or doubt, not following.
--Billy
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| User: "John W" |
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15 Oct 2003 10:04:53 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 19:03:24 -0700, (Billy Goat)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
This drivel is beneath even you.
John W
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
For the same reasons you doubt all the pagan gods you have not
personally observed. Stop pretending our doubt is somehow more
unreasonable than your doubts.
That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.
Are we supposed to impose knowledge of God onto ourselves?
--Billy
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| User: "George Dance" |
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 12:58:41 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.
I can't speak for the OP; but I'm willing to look at other people's
evidence. How many people have you personally observed coming back
from the dead after three days?
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| User: "John" |
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13 Oct 2003 05:26:17 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.
I can't speak for the OP; but I'm willing to look at other people's
evidence. How many people have you personally observed coming back
from the dead after three days?
None yet. However, that I have not observed it personally does NOT
prove it hasn't happened or won't happen again. I have never
personally observed Billy Clinton or Hillary or George W or Laura. But
I see enough information to believe that they exist.
YOUR expressed POV indicates that if you haven't seen it with your
eyes in the flesh, if you haven't reached out and touched it with your
fingers, it's not real. Goodbye air, goodbye gravity. Goodbye
electricity.
John W
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 07:45:04 PM |
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In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 22:26:17 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
He was supposed to do that within the lifetimes of his disciples.
You lose. (Hint: my statement is biblically supported. Want to *****
with your bible? I dare you.)
Don
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "John W" |
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15 Oct 2003 10:04:11 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:45:04 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 22:26:17 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
He was supposed to do that within the lifetimes of his disciples.
I do not respond to those who blaspheme. Come back to the baptist
group with some respect or don't cross post your feces in here.
John W
You lose. (Hint: my statement is biblically supported. Want to *****
with your bible? I dare you.)
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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16 Oct 2003 06:38:41 AM |
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In alt.atheism on 16 Oct 2003 03:04:11 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> let us all know that:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:45:04 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 22:26:17 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
He was supposed to do that within the lifetimes of his disciples.
I do not respond to those who blaspheme. Come back to the baptist
group with some respect or don't cross post your feces in here.
Coward.
John W
You lose. (Hint: my statement is biblically supported. Want to *****
with your bible? I dare you.)
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
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Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "John" |
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16 Oct 2003 05:00:05 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:38:41 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
mbs n r
In alt.atheism on 16 Oct 2003 03:04:11 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> let us all know that:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:45:04 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 22:26:17 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
He was supposed to do that within the lifetimes of his disciples.
I do not respond to those who blaspheme. Come back to the baptist
group with some respect or don't cross post your feces in here.
Coward.
John W
You lose. (Hint: my statement is biblically supported. Want to *****
with your bible? I dare you.)
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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16 Oct 2003 07:01:52 PM |
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In alt.atheism on 16 Oct 2003 22:00:05 GMT, John
<john_weatherly@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:38:41 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
mbs n r
Coward
In alt.atheism on 16 Oct 2003 03:04:11 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> let us all know that:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:45:04 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 22:26:17 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
He was supposed to do that within the lifetimes of his disciples.
I do not respond to those who blaspheme. Come back to the baptist
group with some respect or don't cross post your feces in here.
Coward.
John W
You lose. (Hint: my statement is biblically supported. Want to *****
with your bible? I dare you.)
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Oct 2003 02:40:17 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:38:41 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com>, Message ID:
<ft0tov8e5qd91bd2b0nicqkjuo6b87guii@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
In alt.atheism on 16 Oct 2003 03:04:11 GMT, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> let us all know that:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:45:04 GMT, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on 13 Oct 2003 22:26:17 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
He was supposed to do that within the lifetimes of his disciples.
I do not respond to those who blaspheme. Come back to the baptist
group with some respect or don't cross post your feces in here.
Coward.
Weatherly demonstrates that trait on a consistent basis.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
I do not respond to those who blaspheme.
Of course you do. I consider it a wasted day if I don't blaspheme 37
times before breakfast, and you respond to me all the time.
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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13 Oct 2003 05:35:08 PM |
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John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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15 Oct 2003 10:00:08 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
????? Is John Hattan hallucinating AGAIN? What kind of mushrooms
WERE those, John H?
John W
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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15 Oct 2003 10:23:48 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 06:33:05 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
John W
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 08:07:21 AM |
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In article <tb0tov4g8tfhug2v4k695kvkau7h4irqtl@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
Mother pusbucket! Are you back AGAIN?!?!?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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16 Oct 2003 09:15:15 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <tb0tov4g8tfhug2v4k695kvkau7h4irqtl@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
Mother pusbucket! Are you back AGAIN?!?!?
Weatherlincest is without a doubt the Energizer Bunny of mentally ill
mendacious porn-addicted abuse-loving theist dipshits.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 11:37:54 AM |
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In article <ns9tovsji0le2l9j4gevq0j75p7skckc8j@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <tb0tov4g8tfhug2v4k695kvkau7h4irqtl@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
Mother pusbucket! Are you back AGAIN?!?!?
Weatherlincest is without a doubt the Energizer Bunny of mentally ill
mendacious porn-addicted abuse-loving theist dipshits.
Nice description. Well done, man! :D
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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16 Oct 2003 02:11:05 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:15:15 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <tb0tov4g8tfhug2v4k695kvkau7h4irqtl@4ax.com>, John W says...
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
Mother pusbucket! Are you back AGAIN?!?!?
Weatherlincest is without a doubt the Energizer Bunny of mentally ill
mendacious porn-addicted abuse-loving theist dipshits.
Yes, but besides all that he is really quite nice.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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16 Oct 2003 09:16:37 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
Call it the Fourth Reich for all I care. It's still the same old Rapture
Crapture that fundie preachers have been peddling for years.
Do us all a favor and get raptured already. Quit talking about it and do
it!
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 02:34:47 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:16:37 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <mv9tov47fer8aapmbrmmc18arubs893quu@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
Call it the Fourth Reich for all I care. It's still the same old Rapture
Crapture that fundie preachers have been peddling for years.
Do us all a favor and get raptured already. Quit talking about it and do
it!
/Weatherly proceeds to spooge his monitor
Gaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkkkkkk
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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16 Oct 2003 07:48:37 AM |
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On 16 Oct 2003 11:33:05 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
I've re-read my comments SEVERAL times, group, and I see NO reference
in MY words to a "Rapture."
That horseshit that you wrote above about "your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward" is the freakin' Rapture, genius.
Don't tell me what I believe, or what I meant, genius. The words I
used describe the 2nd Coming.
A good title for a christian incest story "The second coming of the
LOARD"
That'll be $25.250 Kindly deposit on my bank account of the Siam
Commercial Bank, Ploenchit Branch.
$25.000 - lost bet, you cannot proof a miracle.
$250 - assistance for creative writing.
John W
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 02:33:31 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:23:48 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <9n3sovsekssttu5tdcath32dtaenj2d176@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
Hmmmm...bet he's getting all excited at the thought of his neighbors
being naked.
He's also assuming he wouldn't be on the ground looking up at all the
flaming assholes. Such is a bit of a surprise as Weatherly is one hefty
sphincter!
/quote
From: (Liz)
Subject: Re: Are you ready for the rapture?
Date: 2000/06/13
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Newsgroups: alt.atheism
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:38:29 GMT, in alt.atheism
wrote:
Are you ready for the rapture?
Yes, I'm ready and you should be, too.
I have a full line of RaptureReady-to-WearŽFashions and Accessories
for the Christian who is READY. Hallelujah!
Yes, Christians, the Rapture will be Sometime Real Soon and you'll
want to be ready. Do you want to meet your Lord and Maker clothed as
if you didn't care? Do you want "dresses shabbily" written next to
your name in the Lamb's Book of LifeŠ? No, you don't.
Be prepared. Today could be the day. Order your complete wardrobe of
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looking toward heaven and seeing what only your husband and Jesus
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Send for your entire catalog today. Be RaptureReady-to-WearŽ. Allow
4 - 6 weeks for delivery.
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"The Bible is a wonderful source of inspiration for those
who don't understand it." -- George Santayana
/end quote
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <t1amovkm51kpi8n75kish4iilnt1l6uv34@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
Mindless, too.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 10:00:49 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:22:11 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <t1amovkm51kpi8n75kish4iilnt1l6uv34@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don't impress me as being sincerely
interested in anything but denial. Self-worship is an illusion, by
the way.
And it's all gonna happen really really REALLY REALLY soon. . .and this
time you mean it!
Rapture loons are funny.
Mindless, too.
Pot kettle....
John W
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Oct 2003 02:27:48 PM |
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On 16 Oct 2003 03:00:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>,
Message ID: <gd2sov0ud23v3f9raa43a3cjktugfb4g3t@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:22:11 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:35:08 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <t1amovkm51kpi8n75kish4iilnt1l6uv34@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 10:58:41 -0700, (George Dance)
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3b8kovolocclitggl9g3abo00v6m300ei3@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:
Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...
Says who?
John W
Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?
It's not "some sort of trick."
Logic/science tells
you it is impossible...
Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed?
Well, quite a few of us have observed quite a few dead people, and
these do not come back to life - at least after three days. Should we
really suspend judgement as to whether all the people we haven't
observed, have come back from the dead at least once; or are we
prevented from inferring anything about them at all?
Patience! You may yet live to see MILLIONS of "dead people" return to
life when He returns in flesh.
I predict you won't believe it when 5 of your neighbors are suddenly
floating heavenward naked. You'll claim it's a UFO abduction! Or the
"polar fields reversed", neither of which will explain why YOU are
left behind.
And there is more proof of Christianity than the dead being raised. I
won't bore you however, as you don | | | | | | | |
