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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Therion Ware"
Date: 10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM
Object: Serious Question. Honest.
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 06:38:05 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:42:37 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <e54uov8rou20e1scj2bool0qe3cskgmc8q@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;

John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:19:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
n r


Why do you keep responding to people who you claim are "back in my
"unworthy/ignore" list"?

Because he's a lying sack of xtian dog ***** would be my observation.

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>,
Message ID: <5nusovkj2g5c2mgv9pbfmnh3r6g4rgm1dg@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:21:40 -0500, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list.


Better add yourself to that list, fuckwit.

Come back with some
respect for God, His word, and His servant.


Sure. (Defecating on all three). Such is much more respect than
deserved.



Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

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Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 03:17:58 PM
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:31:25 -0500, "SumBuny"
<sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:


"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:jhhoovk91iac3gq9lgl1jcotblmrqgd059@4ax.com...

"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:skjjovktdnnma4aj280pffj23pgoabgpvf@4ax.com...


Not at all. A lack of belief is not a belief. It is not accepting
theist unsupported assertions.


What do you call someone who does not accept (to their way of thinking

what

are) unsupported assertions of atheists?


There's your problem. Atheism is not an assertion. Atheism is the lack
of the property of theism in the same way that asymmetry is not the
assertion that symmetry does not exist but is the lack of the property
of symmetry.



Is not atheism the assertion that there is no deity?

Buny

Atheism is the BELIEF system ("belief") that there is no God. As a
"belief", atheism is a religion; evolution is merely a wrinkle of its
father, atheism.
John W
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User: ""

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 04:43:44 PM
In <jhj0pvocfle2mf07kfimbjv4unvrsj1391@4ax.com>, on 10/17/2003 at 08:17
PM, John <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> continues to attempt to baffle
people with his bull ***** & it is not working.

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:31:25 -0500, "SumBuny"
<sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:

"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:jhhoovk91iac3gq9lgl1jcotblmrqgd059@4ax.com...

"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message

news:skjjovktdnnma4aj280pffj23pgoabgpvf@4ax.com...


Not at all. A lack of belief is not a belief. It is not accepting
theist unsupported assertions.


What do you call someone who does not accept (to their way of thinking

what

are) unsupported assertions of atheists?


There's your problem. Atheism is not an assertion. Atheism is the lack
of the property of theism in the same way that asymmetry is not the
assertion that symmetry does not exist but is the lack of the property
of symmetry.



Is not atheism the assertion that there is no deity?

Buny

Atheism is the BELIEF system ("belief") that there is no God. As a

It would be nice if just once you were to tell the truth, but that would
require you to know what you are talking about. & you cherish your
ignorance to much.
Sumbunny, normally I don't get into a discussiopn of what atheism is or is
not, for other than a lack of belief in a god, gods, goddess & other god
claims, it is a personal thing, & beyond roughage like jw, not of
importance.
Basically here is how it works.
There are two sets of defionitions, & I was in my thirty's when one of my
wise ***** soliders did me the favor of teaching me to read a dictionary the
way it is supposed to be.
1st meaning is the one that shows the roots of the word, the enimology [or
however that is spelled.]
That is always followed by popular useage.
In the case of atheist, the Greek a indicates without a property & I
suspect you have a grip on theist. So all that means is no god property,
or not the property of any god. A person that lacks the quality of a god
belief.
Then there are the popular definitions, which when compared to the
original word are not the same in over 90% of the cases you will
encounter.
The only differeance between xians & atheists is that the atheists
includes the xian gods in the list of gods that it lacks a belief in. I
doubt any xian will claim the Hindu pantheon is real & really are gods, so
you can always use that as a reference of what atheist really means.
It is not a belief, but a lack of belief in. Trite I know, but in spite
of claims to the contrary, that is all there is to it.

"belief", atheism is a religion; evolution is merely a wrinkle of its
father, atheism.

So claims the resident demon of arcb, who as usual is lieing through the
anal hairs of its buck teeth. If it were capable of coherent tbhought, it
could figure out why that is a false claim, & by any really critical
examination & not something frivoulus, such as football is a religion[as
indeed it is in Nebraska], it can not be classified a s a religin. For one
thing, it fails every religious test.
walksalone who is paying attention to the claimed expert of everything &
really the expert of nothing, known as jw aka jezebeth, of arcb, saddly
even though jezebeth demanded it by its threats, I don't believe it
expected it.

John W
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User: "Don Kresch"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 06:34:00 PM
In alt.atheism on 17 Oct 2003 20:17:58 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> let us all know that:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:31:25 -0500, "SumBuny"
<sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:


"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:jhhoovk91iac3gq9lgl1jcotblmrqgd059@4ax.com...

"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:skjjovktdnnma4aj280pffj23pgoabgpvf@4ax.com...


Not at all. A lack of belief is not a belief. It is not accepting
theist unsupported assertions.


What do you call someone who does not accept (to their way of thinking

what

are) unsupported assertions of atheists?


There's your problem. Atheism is not an assertion. Atheism is the lack
of the property of theism in the same way that asymmetry is not the
assertion that symmetry does not exist but is the lack of the property
of symmetry.



Is not atheism the assertion that there is no deity?

Buny

Atheism is the BELIEF system ("belief") that there is no God.

a: lacking or without
theos: gods
-ism: having the belief in or holding to
lacking or without the belief in the existence of a god or gods.
But you don't care, do you, superstition boy?

As a
"belief", atheism is a religion; evolution is merely a wrinkle of its
father, atheism.

So why do theists acknowledge evolution as a fact? Why do your
fellow xers? Or are they "not real xers"?
Don
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 18 Oct 2003 10:47:58 AM
On 17 Oct 2003 20:17:58 GMT, John <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <jhj0pvocfle2mf07kfimbjv4unvrsj1391@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:31:25 -0500, "SumBuny"
<sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:


"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:jhhoovk91iac3gq9lgl1jcotblmrqgd059@4ax.com...

"SumBuny" <sumbunyTHIS_DOES_NOT_BELONG_HERE@cox.net> wrote:

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:skjjovktdnnma4aj280pffj23pgoabgpvf@4ax.com...


Not at all. A lack of belief is not a belief. It is not accepting
theist unsupported assertions.


What do you call someone who does not accept (to their way of thinking

what

are) unsupported assertions of atheists?


There's your problem. Atheism is not an assertion. Atheism is the lack
of the property of theism in the same way that asymmetry is not the
assertion that symmetry does not exist but is the lack of the property
of symmetry.



Is not atheism the assertion that there is no deity?

Buny

Atheism is the BELIEF system ("belief") that there is no God.

Unrepentant and casual bearing of false witness #1.

As a
"belief", atheism is a religion; evolution is merely a wrinkle of its
father, atheism.

Unrepentant and casual bearing of false witness #2, 3, 4.
You're toast fuckwit.
"God" hates false witness.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 10:56:01 PM
On 16 Oct 2003 21:40:35 GMT, John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:19:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
n r

a e

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>,
Message ID: <5nusovkj2g5c2mgv9pbfmnh3r6g4rgm1dg@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:21:40 -0500, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list.


Better add yourself to that list, fuckwit.

Come back with some
respect for God, His word, and His servant.


Sure. (Defecating on all three). Such is much more respect than
deserved.



Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}



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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 06:37:26 PM
On 16 Oct 2003 21:40:35 GMT, John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com>, Message
ID: <d14uovk7dka900f75gqlq1sa44pnqegs59@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:19:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
n r

***** sucking coward.

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:01 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>,
Message ID: <5nusovkj2g5c2mgv9pbfmnh3r6g4rgm1dg@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:21:40 -0500, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list.


Better add yourself to that list, fuckwit.

Come back with some
respect for God, His word, and His servant.


Sure. (Defecating on all three). Such is much more respect than
deserved.



Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}



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Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 11:42:53 PM
On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.

If you searched back a month or 3 in a dozen other threads, it's all
documented.

The Internet of which planet?

I don't do it every time one of you passes gas and
confuses it for an original question.

Sqaack... My name is sjonny. Squaack! Demon! Demon! Squaack!!

Ask something I haven't answered a hundred times, and approach me with
some respect, and you may learn something.

"I don't do it every time one of you passes gas and confuses it for an
original question."
Respect????????
.
User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 06:05:47 AM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.

You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.
John W


If you searched back a month or 3 in a dozen other threads, it's all
documented.

The Internet of which planet?

I don't do it every time one of you passes gas and
confuses it for an original question.

Sqaack... My name is sjonny. Squaack! Demon! Demon! Squaack!!

Ask something I haven't answered a hundred times, and approach me with
some respect, and you may learn something.

"I don't do it every time one of you passes gas and confuses it for an
original question."

Respect????????

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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 07:48:33 AM
On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.

Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


John W

What a pity you never keep your word.



If you searched back a month or 3 in a dozen other threads, it's all
documented.

The Internet of which planet?

I don't do it every time one of you passes gas and
confuses it for an original question.

Sqaack... My name is sjonny. Squaack! Demon! Demon! Squaack!!

Ask something I haven't answered a hundred times, and approach me with
some respect, and you may learn something.

"I don't do it every time one of you passes gas and confuses it for an
original question."

Respect????????



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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 09:05:53 AM
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!

Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he
still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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User: ""

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 06:15:48 PM
In <cc9tov8598g8t364rjsano79al1bng4ihu@4ax.com>, on 10/16/2003
at 09:05 AM, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> said:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!

You mean everyone dream came true if it were to actually come to pass, it
won't for very long.

Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he

Only six? I suspect I am likely around the 20 mark.

still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.

Now there is a thought I had not considered for I was under the
presumption that he was always talking to himself and simply playing to
the audience. Rather like a solo performance without any supporting
props. At least his performance is rather like what one would anticipate
from a one person show when that person never did have a clue what the
script was saying.
Walksalone who would have to ask everyone to be very careful, jezebeth
wants me to pay attention to it and when I get to laughing too hard at the
idiocy he provides and the responses that invokes, it's hard to keep track
of where it has been.
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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 07:46:11 PM
wrote:

In <cc9tov8598g8t364rjsano79al1bng4ihu@4ax.com>, on 10/16/2003
at 09:05 AM, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> said:

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


You mean everyone dream came true if it were to actually come to pass, it
won't for very long.

Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he


Only six? I suspect I am likely around the 20 mark.

still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.


Now there is a thought I had not considered for I was under the
presumption that he was always talking to himself and simply playing to
the audience.

Actually that claim wasn't in here. He said that in another thread
crossposted into alt.fan.bob-larson that he was not responding to me but
to himself *about* me.

Rather like a solo performance without any supporting
props. At least his performance is rather like what one would anticipate
from a one person show when that person never did have a clue what the
script was saying.

Walksalone who would have to ask everyone to be very careful, jezebeth
wants me to pay attention to it and when I get to laughing too hard at the
idiocy he provides and the responses that invokes, it's hard to keep track
of where it has been.

Well I'll tell you now (you being me, as I'm now talking to myself) that
Weatherly is one seriously damaged mentally-ill masterpiece of
development. His parents must be exceedingly proud of the job they did.
---
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 04:43:12 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:05:53 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Oh, I forgot, I love you and God loves you, too!
:-))
John W

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he
still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.

---
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com

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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 04:53:00 PM
John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:
mbs nr

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:05:53 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
Oh, I forgot, I love you and God loves you, too!


:-))

John W


Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he
still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.

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User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 04:42:33 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:05:53 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
not too bright after all! I don't typically respond to your nonsense.
What I DO is to tell the group what a ***** you are.
John W

Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he
still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.

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Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 04:52:40 PM
John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:
mbs nr

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:05:53 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
not too bright after all! I don't typically respond to your nonsense.
What I DO is to tell the group what a ***** you are.


John W


Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he
still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.

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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 07:41:04 PM
On 16 Oct 2003 21:42:33 GMT, John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:05:53 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
not too bright after all! I don't typically respond to your nonsense.
What I DO is to tell the group what a ***** you are.

b-o-r-i-n-g


John W


Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:05:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:53 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:35:53 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Funny, you parrot many others who know what you do NOT know. I have
posted proofs NUMEROUS times.

Nope. You never did. All you do is post unproven assertions.


You have gone back in my "unworthy/ignore" list. Come back with some
respect for God, the Bible, and His servant.


Sweet Mary being buttfucked by a ghost! My wish come true!


Don't get too excited. He's killfiled me about six times now, and he
still responds. Now, though, he pretends that he's talking to himself
while he's responding to my posts.

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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com



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User: "Kermit"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 10:19:07 PM
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<l69movg7v4hitnjtlc8jdumb39jrgthtp7@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:13 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 03:54:07 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:



Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...


Says who?


John W


Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?


It's not "some sort of trick."

Logic/science tells

you it is impossible...


Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.

So... you're saying you have no evidence, then.


John W


Thomas P.

"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."

Juvenal



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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:47:21 PM
On 13 Oct 2003 20:19:07 -0700,
(Kermit)
wrote:

John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<l69movg7v4hitnjtlc8jdumb39jrgthtp7@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:13 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 03:54:07 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:



Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...


Says who?


John W


Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?


It's not "some sort of trick."

Logic/science tells

you it is impossible...


Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


So... you're saying you have no evidence, then.

???????????????
No.
That is NOT what I said. I have stated evidence NUMEROUS times. See
other threads.
John W



John W


Thomas P.

"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."

Juvenal



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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 05:24:29 PM
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.

Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 07:47:04 PM
In article <4d9movgtvg6agoidvto3ij8dbd8itnhfvr@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...


John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?

And there are tons of Wiccans that believe in the Goddess and God. Isn't that
credible evidence?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:28:06 PM
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:47:04 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:

In article <4d9movgtvg6agoidvto3ij8dbd8itnhfvr@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...


John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


And there are tons of Wiccans that believe in the Goddess and God. Isn't that
credible evidence?

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

Christians don't deny that there are demons, we just don't re-label
them "gods and goddesses".
John W
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 09:32:20 AM
In article <qf0sov4fd5pjrcebt3rbsuj459f76bsobu@4ax.com>, John W says...


On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:47:04 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:

In article <4d9movgtvg6agoidvto3ij8dbd8itnhfvr@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...


John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


And there are tons of Wiccans that believe in the Goddess and God. Isn't that
credible evidence?

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557



Christians don't deny that there are demons,

Not every christian believes in demons.
we just don't re-label

them "gods and goddesses".

Thank you for showing your usual amount of ignorance. Now go take your
medication.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 06:23:26 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:32:20 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <UZxjb.24278$cJ5.3595@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;

In article <qf0sov4fd5pjrcebt3rbsuj459f76bsobu@4ax.com>, John W says...


On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:47:04 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:

In article <4d9movgtvg6agoidvto3ij8dbd8itnhfvr@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...


John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


And there are tons of Wiccans that believe in the Goddess and God. Isn't that
credible evidence?

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557



Christians don't deny that there are demons,


Not every christian believes in demons.

we just don't re-label

them "gods and goddesses".


Thank you for showing your usual amount of ignorance. Now go take your
medication.

/fuckwit weatherly
No. 'Jesus' (aka the voices in my head) said medication is of the
debbil.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 05:37:24 PM
John Hattan wrote:

John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?

That's why arguing from popularity is a logical fallacy ;-P
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 05:43:29 PM
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:

John Hattan wrote:

John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


That's why arguing from popularity is a logical fallacy ;-P

Don't be silly. If a lot of people believe in something wrong, it
magically becomes right. Weatherly says so.
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:25:32 PM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:43:29 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:

John Hattan wrote:

John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


That's why arguing from popularity is a logical fallacy ;-P


Don't be silly. If a lot of people believe in something wrong, it
magically becomes right. Weatherly says so.

One comment only. You are a liar. Otherwise, please produce the quote,
in context.
I've NEVER said such a thing, other than tongue-in-cheek if at all.
Folks, John Hattan proves once again, that he is a shameless
pathological liar.
John W


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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:41:23 PM
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:43:29 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:

John Hattan wrote:

John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


That's why arguing from popularity is a logical fallacy ;-P


Don't be silly. If a lot of people believe in something wrong, it
magically becomes right. Weatherly says so.


One comment only. You are a liar. Otherwise, please produce the quote,
in context.

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from
all walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the
Bible, and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."???
-- You
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 05:50:42 AM
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:41:23 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:43:29 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:

John Hattan wrote:

John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


Over a billion people believe in the Hindu gods. Is that credible
evidence for the existence of the Hindu gods?


That's why arguing from popularity is a logical fallacy ;-P


Don't be silly. If a lot of people believe in something wrong, it
magically becomes right. Weatherly says so.


One comment only. You are a liar. Otherwise, please produce the quote,
in context.


How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from
all walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the
Bible, and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."???
-- You

I see you are lost and confused again. That's what "being in darkness"
means.
John W

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