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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Therion Ware"
Date: 10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM
Object: Serious Question. Honest.
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
--
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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 05:06:47 PM
John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:12:54 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:


Funniest of all is that you expect us to believe that you've weren't
verbally abusing the ex-wife and kid when your posts are replete with
verbal abuse.


Assume... assume... assume.... And you know what they say about you
assuming.

I'm not assuming squat. Two facts are in evidence by your own words.
Number one is that you claim to have lost custody because of alleged
verbal abuse, and number two is that you are verbally abusive.
Cases in point. . .
10 years ago, my son't mother accused me of "verbal assault' which
Washington state defines as "any activity which the female partner
wishes to say frightened her." In my case, as has happened to millions
of others in America, there was no assault. There was only a desire on
the part of my son's mother to get "uncontested custody".
-- John Weatherly
Don't find out what the domestic violence/abuse laws are in YOUR state
too late! That cost ME MY family! Did you know that in some states, a
simple argument is called "verbal assault" and it'll cost you your
family, your home, your kids, and ALL your property.
-- John Weatherly
You are a known *****.
-- John Weatherly
Well, Don, you old homosexual demoniac you, at least we are going to
heaven. As a turd, you will merely be flushed down the toilet.
-- John Weatherly
It's called "forgetting", and what's YOUR excuse for being a total
*****?
-- John Weatherly
YOu think I'm a dummy because I don't agree with YOU? You TURD! You
demoniac!
-- John Weatherly
Continue the personal attacks, oh maggot breath! They're all you have!
And as I said, I'm of a Baptist background, and I forget what other
idiocies you uttered! Go away, maggot turd!
-- John Weatherly
You stupid, illiterate, obnoxious *****!
-- John Weatherly
And YOU, Don, are King Phony. Liar, Scumbag, and the ever popular
*****.
-- John Weatherly
You lie loudly, Arab Al-Qaida/Taliban *****.
-- John Weatherly
And if all you want is a pissing contest to prove which church is
real, ***** elsewhere.
-- John Weatherly
Pathological, God damned liar!
-- John Weatherly
And when that luck person flattens you like a pancake with a Mack Truck,
I PRAY I get to do it, demoniac.
-- John Weatherly
I hope I run into you one day with a car, turd.
-- John Weatherly
Yeah. You're a BIG TIME *****!
-- John Weatherly
As it is, you need to watch your back. Either I or someone else you've
pushed too far will sneak up on you one day, and your trip back into the
firey pit will be a short one.
-- John Weatherly
Enough with the doctor *****! Do I need to call an attorney on your
*****?
-- John Weatherly
You are being DELIBERATLY mean, in other words, you're being an *****,
to quote Jesus. I can't help my mental issues; it's genetic. What is
YOUR excuse for being a total jerk?
-- John Weatherly
You deserve no sympathy *****.
-- John Weatherly

that you suffer from

some kind of keyboard-based tourettes syndrome that allows you to keep a
civil tongue in your head when talking but doesn't allow you to type
three sentences in a newsgroup post without shouting "*****!"


And if you were sincerely interested in FACTS and not just totally
harassing people like the turd you are, you could EASILY do a check
with the police for my non-existent police record.

NO assaults. NONE. NO 9-11 calls. NONE! NO E-R visits for the wife
OR the baby other than the usual. NONE!

The fact is that the federal government wrote a law, signed by Billy C
as I recall, that outlawed gun ownership by anyone with even a
misdemeanor "assault on their record." I have one.
-- John Weatherly
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 10:55:38 PM
On 16 Oct 2003 21:51:26 GMT, John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> wrote:

No. I don't care WHAT YOU believe. Let's get that VERY clear.

Tell me then, what are you doing here? Merely whoring for attention?
No matter what?
.

User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 03:32:27 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:12:54 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:16:18 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

When you come to me sincerely, without taunts, without namecalling,
and with respect, you will get all of that in return.


Your civility is a matter of record. . .

You are a known *****.
-- John Weatherly


I treat as I am treated. And the above remark you quote is at least
the truth. YOU usually lie! But you ARE an *****! That part IS
true. You CONTINUE to sadistically harass a mentally ill, severely
emotionally damaged person. That makes you more psychotic than you
accuse me.


Funniest of all is that you expect us to believe that you've weren't
verbally abusing the ex-wife and kid when your posts are replete with
verbal abuse. You apparently expect us to believe that you suffer from
some kind of keyboard-based tourettes syndrome that allows you to keep a
civil tongue in your head when talking but doesn't allow you to type
three sentences in a newsgroup post without shouting "*****!"

You are exaggerating and fabricating again, John H. I do NOT use such
words for MOST of the people in here. I reserve the above for you
assholes.
And it's not verbally abusive if you've earned it, and you have. I
didn't first attack you. You first attacked me. WHY? Because I'm a
Christian. And since you hate Christians so bad, will you be on the
hit squad when the government starts sending folks out to execute
Christians?
I bet you'll be the first to sign up!
And I don't need to read your list. I wrote the posts.
BTW, I may have problems, but that doesn't mean I won't go someplace
you likely will never venture to: Heaven.
Clean up your act, demon, before it's too late!
John W



Well, Don, you old homosexual demoniac you, at least we are going to
heaven. As a turd, you will merely be flushed down the toilet.
-- John Weatherly

It's called "forgetting", and what's YOUR excuse for being a total
*****?
-- John Weatherly

YOu think I'm a dummy because I don't agree with YOU? You TURD! You
demoniac!
-- John Weatherly

Continue the personal attacks, oh maggot breath! They're all you have!
And as I said, I'm of a Baptist background, and I forget what other
idiocies you uttered! Go away, maggot turd!
-- John Weatherly

You stupid, illiterate, obnoxious *****!
-- John Weatherly

And YOU, Don, are King Phony. Liar, Scumbag, and the ever popular
*****.
-- John Weatherly

You lie loudly, Arab Al-Qaida/Taliban *****.
-- John Weatherly

And if all you want is a pissing contest to prove which church is
real, ***** elsewhere.
-- John Weatherly

Pathological, God damned liar!
-- John Weatherly

And when that luck person flattens you like a pancake with a Mack Truck,
I PRAY I get to do it, demoniac.
-- John Weatherly

I hope I run into you one day with a car, turd.
-- John Weatherly

Yeah. You're a BIG TIME *****!
-- John Weatherly

As it is, you need to watch your back. Either I or someone else you've
pushed too far will sneak up on you one day, and your trip back into the
firey pit will be a short one.
-- John Weatherly

Enough with the doctor *****! Do I need to call an attorney on your
*****?
-- John Weatherly

You are being DELIBERATLY mean, in other words, you're being an *****,
to quote Jesus. I can't help my mental issues; it's genetic. What is
YOUR excuse for being a total jerk?
-- John Weatherly

You deserve no sympathy *****.
-- John Weatherly

---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com



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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 18 Oct 2003 12:11:46 AM
On 17 Oct 2003 20:32:27 GMT, John <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
whored for attention:

Funniest of all is that you expect us to believe that you've weren't
verbally abusing the ex-wife and kid when your posts are replete with
verbal abuse. You apparently expect us to believe that you suffer from
some kind of keyboard-based tourettes syndrome that allows you to keep a
civil tongue in your head when talking but doesn't allow you to type
three sentences in a newsgroup post without shouting "*****!"


You are exaggerating and fabricating again, John H. I do NOT use such
words for MOST of the people in here. I reserve the above for you
assholes.

For yourself, I understand?

And it's not verbally abusive if you've earned it, and you have.

It slides off like logic on a Teflon/Bul[lshit]ovaŠ fundy.

I didn't first attack you. You first attacked me. WHY? Because I'm a
Christian.

No, simply because you are a ranting moron.

And since you hate Christians so bad, will you be on the
hit squad when the government starts sending folks out to execute
Christians?

A persecution complex too?

I bet you'll be the first to sign up!

In your case, it would simply be a postponed abortion.

And I don't need to read your list. I wrote the posts.
BTW, I may have problems, but that doesn't mean I won't go someplace
you likely will never venture to: Heaven.

I'm sooooo happy.

Clean up your act, demon, before it's too late!

Jesus ***** on a Piece of Wood! It is spelled daemon. DAEMON.
D-A-E-M-O-N!!! A normal computer routine. You call yourself a computer
engineer?
.


User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 11:42:58 PM
On 16 Oct 2003 02:49:42 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:09 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Postings a few grams of them seems to complicated and difficult for
you. What a pity. All you do is whine.


I don't respond well to taunts and insults that BEGIN the post.

Fruity, yet naughty. Rolls on the tongue. Chateau Neuf du Pope '03.
EXCELLENT whine!

When
you come to me sincerely, without taunts, without namecalling, and
with respect, you will get all of that in return.

I did that, doesn't make any difference to you whatsoever. In other
words: liar.

When you taunt and label, you will get nothing.

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. <--- my wasted keystrokes.

John W



Because your LOARDS will make you pay for that. You have seen the
light, and refuses to share it with others.


Even Jesus and Peter, James, John, and Paul refused to respond to
taunts. Other than with taunts in return.

Never red it. <--- more wasted keystrokes.


John W


Not smart, sjonny.


I'll let God sort it out; I suggest you do likewise.

Leave our pristine bappist group alone! <--- again wasted keystrokes.
Result: I'm totally wasted. [Burps] I have to [bap]***** now.
.
User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 06:13:56 AM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:58 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:49:42 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:09 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Postings a few grams of them seems to complicated and difficult for
you. What a pity. All you do is whine.


I don't respond well to taunts and insults that BEGIN the post.

Fruity, yet naughty. Rolls on the tongue. Chateau Neuf du Pope '03.
EXCELLENT whine!

When
you come to me sincerely, without taunts, without namecalling, and
with respect, you will get all of that in return.

I did that, doesn't make any difference to you whatsoever.

When? Where? I missed your nice word!
John W
In other

words: liar.

When you taunt and label, you will get nothing.

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. <--- my wasted keystrokes.

John W



Because your LOARDS will make you pay for that. You have seen the
light, and refuses to share it with others.


Even Jesus and Peter, James, John, and Paul refused to respond to
taunts. Other than with taunts in return.

Never red it. <--- more wasted keystrokes.


John W


Not smart, sjonny.


I'll let God sort it out; I suggest you do likewise.

Leave our pristine bappist group alone! <--- again wasted keystrokes.

Result: I'm totally wasted. [Burps] I have to [bap]***** now.

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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 07:48:35 AM
On 16 Oct 2003 11:13:56 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:58 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:49:42 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:09 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Postings a few grams of them seems to complicated and difficult for
you. What a pity. All you do is whine.


I don't respond well to taunts and insults that BEGIN the post.

Fruity, yet naughty. Rolls on the tongue. Chateau Neuf du Pope '03.
EXCELLENT whine!

When
you come to me sincerely, without taunts, without namecalling, and
with respect, you will get all of that in return.

I did that, doesn't make any difference to you whatsoever.


When? Where? I missed your nice word!

Don't waste me key strokes. I see your attention span can be measured
in nano seconds.


John W



In other

words: liar.

When you taunt and label, you will get nothing.

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. <--- my wasted keystrokes.

John W



Because your LOARDS will make you pay for that. You have seen the
light, and refuses to share it with others.


Even Jesus and Peter, James, John, and Paul refused to respond to
taunts. Other than with taunts in return.

Never red it. <--- more wasted keystrokes.


John W


Not smart, sjonny.


I'll let God sort it out; I suggest you do likewise.

Leave our pristine bappist group alone! <--- again wasted keystrokes.

Result: I'm totally wasted. [Burps] I have to [bap]***** now.



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User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 03:34:00 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:48:35 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:13:56 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:58 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:49:42 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:09 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Postings a few grams of them seems to complicated and difficult for
you. What a pity. All you do is whine.


I don't respond well to taunts and insults that BEGIN the post.

Fruity, yet naughty. Rolls on the tongue. Chateau Neuf du Pope '03.
EXCELLENT whine!

When
you come to me sincerely, without taunts, without namecalling, and
with respect, you will get all of that in return.

I did that, doesn't make any difference to you whatsoever.


When? Where? I missed your nice word!

Don't waste me key strokes. I see your attention span can be measured
in nano seconds.

And your IQ can be measured in single digits.
John W


John W



In other

words: liar.

When you taunt and label, you will get nothing.

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. <--- my wasted keystrokes.

John W



Because your LOARDS will make you pay for that. You have seen the
light, and refuses to share it with others.


Even Jesus and Peter, James, John, and Paul refused to respond to
taunts. Other than with taunts in return.

Never red it. <--- more wasted keystrokes.


John W


Not smart, sjonny.


I'll let God sort it out; I suggest you do likewise.

Leave our pristine bappist group alone! <--- again wasted keystrokes.

Result: I'm totally wasted. [Burps] I have to [bap]***** now.



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User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 18 Oct 2003 12:11:49 AM
On 17 Oct 2003 20:34:00 GMT, John <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
whored for attention:
nr y mf p o s

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:48:35 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 11:13:56 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:42:58 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:49:42 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:30:09 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Postings a few grams of them seems to complicated and difficult for
you. What a pity. All you do is whine.


I don't respond well to taunts and insults that BEGIN the post.

Fruity, yet naughty. Rolls on the tongue. Chateau Neuf du Pope '03.
EXCELLENT whine!

When
you come to me sincerely, without taunts, without namecalling, and
with respect, you will get all of that in return.

I did that, doesn't make any difference to you whatsoever.


When? Where? I missed your nice word!

Don't waste me key strokes. I see your attention span can be measured
in nano seconds.


And your IQ can be measured in single digits.

John W


John W



In other

words: liar.

When you taunt and label, you will get nothing.

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. <--- my wasted keystrokes.

John W



Because your LOARDS will make you pay for that. You have seen the
light, and refuses to share it with others.


Even Jesus and Peter, James, John, and Paul refused to respond to
taunts. Other than with taunts in return.

Never red it. <--- more wasted keystrokes.


John W


Not smart, sjonny.


I'll let God sort it out; I suggest you do likewise.

Leave our pristine bappist group alone! <--- again wasted keystrokes.

Result: I'm totally wasted. [Burps] I have to [bap]***** now.



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User: "Thomas P."

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 14 Oct 2003 01:34:31 AM
On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:13 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 03:54:07 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:



Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...


Says who?


John W


Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?


It's not "some sort of trick."

Logic/science tells

you it is impossible...


Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?


How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.

I have not seen the evidence. I have heard and read claims of
evidence. If there is any please show some. Please note that I am
being completely polite. You say there is evidence. I politely ask
you to show me some. Surely you will respond in the same spirit or
"in kind" as you expressed it in an earlier post. I look forward to a
pleasant exchange of views.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:55:16 PM
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:39:13 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 03:54:07 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:58:17 -0700, Jesse Nowells
<jnowells@transbay.net> wrote:



Imagine someone that you know, someone
who is *dead*...showing up all of a sudden in your life. You know that he
is dead, that the dead do not come back to life...


Says who?


John W


Would you believe that this is not some sort of trick?


It's not "some sort of trick."

Logic/science tells

you it is impossible...


Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.



Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?

I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??



How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


I have not seen the evidence. I have heard and read claims of
evidence. If there is any please show some. Please note that I am
being completely polite. You say there is evidence. I politely ask
you to show me some. Surely you will respond in the same spirit or
"in kind" as you expressed it in an earlier post. I look forward to a
pleasant exchange of views.

Since I have not BEGUN to insult you, and I apologize if you felt I
did, I cannot CONTINUE to insult you.
What types of proof would you like? There is fulfilled prophesy, there
is topical detail, there is the real live characters whose identities
we find elsewhere (Herod, Caesar, Paul/Saul).
There is end-times prophesy that has been fulfilled.
There is the proof of the martyrs.
There are the 1st C artifacts.
Where should I start? Jesus' life alone fulfilled HUNDREDS of
prophesies that were beyond his control, such as His birthplace and
even WHEN He was born.
Pick a topic.
John W





Thomas P.

"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."

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User: "Thomas P."

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 12:30:01 AM
On 16 Oct 2003 02:55:16 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

snip

Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.



Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?


I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??

You implied that I was delibrately avoiding evidence. It was based on
nothing more than the fact that I disagreed with you. It was an
insult, since it implied dishonesty.



How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


I have not seen the evidence. I have heard and read claims of
evidence. If there is any please show some. Please note that I am
being completely polite. You say there is evidence. I politely ask
you to show me some. Surely you will respond in the same spirit or
"in kind" as you expressed it in an earlier post. I look forward to a
pleasant exchange of views.


Since I have not BEGUN to insult you, and I apologize if you felt I
did, I cannot CONTINUE to insult you.

Nearly every response of yours has contained insults.


What types of proof would you like? There is fulfilled prophesy,

Would that include the total destruction of Tyre the city that was
never totally destroyed and exists to this very day?
there

is topical detail, there is the real live characters whose identities
we find elsewhere (Herod, Caesar, Paul/Saul).

Many works of fiction contain real characters.

There is end-times prophesy that has been fulfilled.

That depends on the interpretation of very vague verses in the Bible.

There is the proof of the martyrs.

People have died for many causes. That does not prove anything.

There are the 1st C artifacts.

Proving that there were Christians. That does not prove their beliefs
were true.


Where should I start? Jesus' life alone fulfilled HUNDREDS of
prophesies that were beyond his control, such as His birthplace and
even WHEN He was born.

We have no independent documentation of his existence. One would
expect the gospels to claim that he fulfilled prophecies.


Pick a topic.

You pick one and present the evidence.
And remember the above contains not one insult directed at anyone.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 06:30:13 AM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:30:01 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:55:16 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

snip

Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.



Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?



I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??



You implied that I was delibrately avoiding evidence.

Your assumption. That was NOT intended.
And I learned MANY years ago that we should not ASSUME offense when
none is intended. If you wish to participate in groups, you need a
tougher skin.
It was based on

nothing more than the fact that I disagreed with you. It was an
insult, since it implied dishonesty.

Not at all. AGAIN, if you feel offended by one innocent comment,
sorry, but you need to get a grip. I never said you INTEND to block
things out. It's just your training to be Super/HYPER suspicious of
anything Christian. I understand.
And you, when presented evidence FOR, will ALWAYS take the anti-
position. You aren't interested.
I could give you statistics to prove my point, but you aren't seeking,
so my #'s would be wasted. I don't "cast my pearls to the pigs."
John W





How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


I have not seen the evidence. I have heard and read claims of
evidence. If there is any please show some. Please note that I am
being completely polite. You say there is evidence. I politely ask
you to show me some. Surely you will respond in the same spirit or
"in kind" as you expressed it in an earlier post. I look forward to a
pleasant exchange of views.



Since I have not BEGUN to insult you, and I apologize if you felt I
did, I cannot CONTINUE to insult you.


Nearly every response of yours has contained insults.

Then we should stop communicating. I've been as respectful as I know
how. Do you understand my mental/emotional limitations?




What types of proof would you like? There is fulfilled prophesy,



Would that include the total destruction of Tyre the city that was
never totally destroyed and exists to this very day?

Combative, eh? Right out of the gate! That'll take us a LONG ways!


there

is topical detail, there is the real live characters whose identities
we find elsewhere (Herod, Caesar, Paul/Saul).


Many works of fiction contain real characters.

True. But the authors and their audiences know the works are fiction.
Those who wrote the Bible believed, and they were inspired, since the
Bible contains MANY details that are true, and that were beyond the
human knowledge of their time.



There is end-times prophesy that has been fulfilled.


That depends on the interpretation of very vague verses in the Bible.

Not vague at all. And that remark is a vain attempt, and a poor one,
to discredit the Bible "matter-of-factly" without ever bothering to
attack the scriptures on a passage/problem by passage/problem basis.


There is the proof of the martyrs.


People have died for many causes. That does not prove anything.

You at this point have NO clue what you are talking about, and you
merely parrot that BS from others. The Christian martyrs prove a LOT.
The way the 11 and Paul and Barnabas died was nothing short of
miraculous.
Ask if you're interested; I'm betting you're not interested, and that
you don't ask.


There are the 1st C artifacts.


Proving that there were Christians. That does not prove their beliefs
were true.

AGAIN, you cop out. Why would there b e Christians in the 1st Century
AD, and why would the 1st Century AD churches still be there, if there
had been no Risen Christ to inspire such?
Your answers are typically atheist shallow. You show NO independent
thought. And I remember your "questions" and "issues" from MY high
school philosophy textbook! For crying out loud, you could at LEAST be
original!



Where should I start? Jesus' life alone fulfilled HUNDREDS of
prophesies that were beyond his control, such as His birthplace and
even WHEN He was born.


We have no independent documentation of his existence.

Nonsense. The HISTORY of the apostles proves it for any intelligent,
open minded person. You do not WANT to believe, so any mamby-pamby
excuse your high school teacher gave you works.
You think it's "cool" to be responsible to no one. Well, when you were
a child, you were responsible to your parents; then you were
responsible to the police. You have ALWAYS been responsible to God.
One would

expect the gospels to claim that he fulfilled prophecies.

Then you know NOTHING about the Jews the Christians came from, or the
Bible and how it was complied.




Pick a topic.


You pick one and present the evidence.

And remember the above contains not one insult directed at anyone.

We are done, actually. I have once again proved that you are NOT open.
You have not just asked for specifics. You have negated whole
CATEGORIES of information, and for no reason other than "I don't
choose to believe it."
For crying out loud! There have been fulfilled prophesies within YOUR
lifetime, if you're old enough to have seen the Gulf War!
But you'd rather believe the devil than the statistics and the Bible!
And unfortunately, there's no cure for your total dis-interest. You
wish to worship yourself and man. You do NOT wish to tap into the
power of the universe!
Knock yourself out! You are VERY shallow! And I mean that in the
NICEST possible way!
John W



Thomas P.

"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."

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User: "Thomas P."

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 11:03:35 AM
On 16 Oct 2003 11:30:13 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:30:01 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:55:16 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

snip

Logic nor science tells you it is impossible. Why do you doubt merely
because you have not personally observed? That is not rational; that
is ignorance; worst of all, it is self-imposed.


No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.



Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?



I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??



You implied that I was delibrately avoiding evidence.


Your assumption. That was NOT intended.

There is no other meaning possible.


And I learned MANY years ago that we should not ASSUME offense when
none is intended. If you wish to participate in groups, you need a
tougher skin.

I am doing fine.


It was based on

nothing more than the fact that I disagreed with you. It was an
insult, since it implied dishonesty.


Not at all. AGAIN, if you feel offended by one innocent comment,
sorry, but you need to get a grip. I never said you INTEND to block
things out. It's just your training to be Super/HYPER suspicious of
anything Christian. I understand.

The above would be another insult. You really are hopeless.
snip of remaining insanity. This guy is a major lunatic. I doubt
seriously that even other fundies would be able to tolerate him.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 07:04:59 AM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:30:01 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:55:16 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?


I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??



You implied that I was delibrately avoiding evidence. It was based on
nothing more than the fact that I disagreed with you. It was an
insult, since it implied dishonesty.

They see nothing wrong with lying about us, after all, their religion
has given them the derogatory "reasons" why we don't believe. So they
"must" be true.
But it's also destroyed any consideration or empathy for others so
they see nothing wrong with telling them to us. They are incapable of
understanding just how nasty they are.
And then they take umbrage when what comes around goes around and
they're treated like the nasty, in-our-faces liars they have shown
themselves to be.
The hypocrisy is amazing.

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.

And the intellectual dishonesty. Although sometimes this is just
stupidity - these guys don't provide any of this alleged "evidence"
but instead attack us for not seeing it when they haven't even told us
what it is and why it supports their claims.

I have not seen the evidence. I have heard and read claims of
evidence. If there is any please show some. Please note that I am
being completely polite. You say there is evidence. I politely ask
you to show me some. Surely you will respond in the same spirit or
"in kind" as you expressed it in an earlier post. I look forward to a
pleasant exchange of views.


Since I have not BEGUN to insult you, and I apologize if you felt I
did, I cannot CONTINUE to insult you.


Nearly every response of yours has contained insults.

"Nearly"?

What types of proof would you like? There is fulfilled prophesy,

Standard dishonest cliche.
It's not up to anybody but him. He has to come up with something he
knows would convince _anybody_.
And of course, just saying "fulfilled prophesy (sic)" isn't evidence
for anything. He has to provide the prophecies in enough context to
show what it was talking about, and how it was _objectively_
fulfilled.

Would that include the total destruction of Tyre the city that was
never totally destroyed and exists to this very day?

Something like that.

there

is topical detail, there is the real live characters whose identities
we find elsewhere (Herod, Caesar, Paul/Saul).


Many works of fiction contain real characters.

This is something I don't understand. They claim it is a reliable
source for everything it it. We point out errors (and a single one
refutes inerrancy) so they point out something it gets right - as
though that proved that proved everything in it.
For it to be authoritative, they would first have to validate each and
every single thing in it. But anybody with two neurons to run together
knows they can't.

There is end-times prophesy that has been fulfilled.

None of which the poster can be bothered to provide. We're supposed
to take his word for it.

That depends on the interpretation of very vague verses in the Bible.

There is the proof of the martyrs.


People have died for many causes. That does not prove anything.

He's just proved Islam, the WW2 Japanese and a whole slew of others
were correct.

There are the 1st C artifacts.


Proving that there were Christians. That does not prove their beliefs
were true.

I have never understood why so many Christians imagine it does.

Where should I start? Jesus' life alone fulfilled HUNDREDS of
prophesies that were beyond his control, such as His birthplace and
even WHEN He was born.


We have no independent documentation of his existence. One would
expect the gospels to claim that he fulfilled prophecies.

I suspect he got this from MacDowell.

Pick a topic.

Not up to us. The poster is supposed to provide something, anything,
based on objective reality that leads inescapably to his desired
conclusion.

You pick one and present the evidence.

And remember the above contains not one insult directed at anyone.


Thomas P.

"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."

Juvenal

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User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 04:56:35 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:04:59 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:30:01 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:55:16 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:


Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?


I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??



You implied that I was delibrately avoiding evidence. It was based on
nothing more than the fact that I disagreed with you. It was an
insult, since it implied dishonesty.


They see nothing wrong with lying about us, after all, their religion
has given them the derogatory "reasons" why we don't believe. So they
"must" be true.

Pot kettle


But it's also destroyed any consideration or empathy for others so
they see nothing wrong with telling them to us. They are incapable of
understanding just how nasty they are.

Pot kettle.


And then they take umbrage when what comes around goes around and
they're treated like the nasty, in-our-faces liars they have shown
themselves to be.

Pot kettle


The hypocrisy is amazing.

Ditto.


How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.


And the intellectual dishonesty.

Pot kettle. You call your self "Christian" and then you reject and
twist and distort the very words of Christ.
Although sometimes this is just

stupidity - these guys don't provide any of this alleged "evidence"
but instead attack us for not seeing it when they haven't even told us
what it is and why it supports their claims.

lie. Just because you don't understand does not negate the evidence or
the truth.
John W
< snipped the rest of Chris's BS. same old same old >
You should get out more, Chris.
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Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 17 Oct 2003 10:57:47 AM
In <dr4uov8akudn0tu5cmb8t4t2mjs7u9u88f@4ax.com>, on 10/16/2003 at 09:56
PM, John <john_weatherly@yahoo.com> failing to dazzle anyone with its
lack of brilliance is attempting to baffle them with its *****, its not
working.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:04:59 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

A moment if I might Christopher, jezebeth aka jw has demanded I pay
attention to it, & I suspect it wishes it had never made that demand.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:30:01 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:

On 16 Oct 2003 02:55:16 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

Read my post above again. You will notice that I did not make one,
personal comment about you. Why do you feel compelled to insult me?

I re-read my / your remarks several times. I see no insult. And none
was intended. How would YOU put "Your mind is closed!" ??

You implied that I was delibrately avoiding evidence. It was based on
nothing more than the fact that I disagreed with you. It was an
insult, since it implied dishonesty.

A standard preocedure for jezebeth, s/he/it alone gets to decide if it is
evidence or not according to the position of the moon in relation to the
planet uberfearmeorelse, something he claims to be one of the gods of
xianity near as I can tell. Or maybe it is just mistaking itself for one
of the many gods of xianity, does anyomne reeally care?

They see nothing wrong with lying about us, after all, their religion
has given them the derogatory "reasons" why we don't believe. So they
"must" be true.

Pot kettle

Bragging on yourself jezzie, how common, & typical.

But it's also destroyed any consideration or empathy for others so
they see nothing wrong with telling them to us. They are incapable of
understanding just how nasty they are.

Pot kettle.

Yup, bragging on yourself again, & you with nothing to brag with.

And then they take umbrage when what comes around goes around and
they're treated like the nasty, in-our-faces liars they have shown
themselves to be.

Pot kettle

Actually, in your case, spot on according to your posting history.

The hypocrisy is amazing.

Ditto.

Yes you are amazing jezzie, but not in a nice way. We all know you for the
liar you are, & yet you accuse others of bargeing in on your territory by
claiming they lie. No one can compete with you in that field it would
appear.

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.

And the intellectual dishonesty.

Pot kettle. You call your self "Christian" and then you reject and twist
and distort the very words of Christ.

Is that according to you jezzie, then Christopher must be directly quoting
& applying the claimed words of jesus of nazareth, for you certainly
don't, or can't, or both.

Although sometimes this is just

stupidity - these guys don't provide any of this alleged "evidence"
but instead attack us for not seeing it when they haven't even told us
what it is and why it supports their claims.

lie. Just because you don't understand does not negate the evidence or
the truth.

To understand anything requires evidence & coherent discussion. Both are
alien to you based on your posting history. It also helps if one is not
known as a liar, one of your more charming personality traits.

John W
< snipped the rest of Chris's BS. same old same old >
You should get out more, Chris.

& you, do they let you out without a leash yet?
I've no doubt that Christopher knows more about xianity than you ever
will, even should he be a zapotec mythology follower.
walksalone who notes jezebeth continues in its goal, to be the death of
any possible intelligent communication, when it enters a thread. Its not
working, others ignore you & continue the march. & by your demand, I am
paying attention now & then.
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 05:27:02 PM
On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:

No, that is completely rational. If you tell me something that I find
incredible, I am under no obligation to believe you without evidence.
It would be perfectly reasonable to doubt you. Perhaps you could tell
me why I should believe you or anybody or any book when the claim is
incredible and the evidence is lacking.

Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.

Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.
The obvious convlusion is that you haven't got any and are too scared
to admit it.
Which is why instead of providing it you lie about us. You're fooling
nobody but youself.

How have hundreds of millions of educated professional people from all
walks of life, including scientists, believe in Christ and the Bible,
and yet YOU say "there's no credible evidence."??? Your statement
lacks credibility.

And none of them have ever provided it either.
All they provide are inanities like that.

John W

Why don't you do something nobody has ever done?
PROVIDE THIS FRIGGING EVIDENCE.
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User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 13 Oct 2003 05:36:47 PM
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:


Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.

You know, it's that funny "ootsie" feeling you get when you think about
Jeebus and the Sacred Spook. Kinda like constipation, but different.
---
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:31:35 PM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:36:47 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:


Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.


You know, it's that funny "ootsie" feeling you get when you think about
Jeebus and the Sacred Spook. Kinda like constipation, but different.

I have a little alliteration for you.
"Your blasphemies will surely be blessed."
(see, the "b's" make a similar sound, hence "alliteration". I just
wanted to be sure you got it! ) :-))
John W


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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com

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Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 15 Oct 2003 09:55:27 PM
John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:36:47 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:


Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.


You know, it's that funny "ootsie" feeling you get when you think about
Jeebus and the Sacred Spook. Kinda like constipation, but different.


I have a little alliteration for you.

"Your blasphemies will surely be blessed."

(see, the "b's" make a similar sound, hence "alliteration". I just
wanted to be sure you got it! ) :-))

Your slimy sibling sex show solicitations and subsequent silly snarls
and spurious suit scare showed some serious senselessness, stupid
sociopathic sicko.
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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User: "John W"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 05:59:05 AM
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:55:27 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:36:47 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:


Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.


You know, it's that funny "ootsie" feeling you get when you think about
Jeebus and the Sacred Spook. Kinda like constipation, but different.


I have a little alliteration for you.

"Your blasphemies will surely be blessed."

(see, the "b's" make a similar sound, hence "alliteration". I just
wanted to be sure you got it! ) :-))


Your slimy sibling sex show solicitations and subsequent silly snarls
and spurious suit scare showed some serious senselessness, stupid
sociopathic sicko.

Good for you!
You learned about alliteration quickly! You ARE smarter than you at
first appear.
PTL!
Now it's time for you to work on your obsessive/compulsiveness (which
will take a psychiatrist, since you're psychotic), and your
pathological lying, as demonstrated by your clever, yet fabricated
alliteration above.
John W

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Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 07:48:27 AM
On 16 Oct 2003 10:59:05 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:55:27 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:36:47 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:


Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.


You know, it's that funny "ootsie" feeling you get when you think about
Jeebus and the Sacred Spook. Kinda like constipation, but different.


I have a little alliteration for you.

"Your blasphemies will surely be blessed."

(see, the "b's" make a similar sound, hence "alliteration". I just
wanted to be sure you got it! ) :-))


Your slimy sibling sex show solicitations and subsequent silly snarls
and spurious suit scare showed some serious senselessness, stupid
sociopathic sicko.


Good for you!

You learned about alliteration quickly! You ARE smarter than you at
first appear.

Something you don't have to worry about...

PTL!

Now it's time for you to work on your obsessive/compulsiveness (which
will take a psychiatrist, since you're psychotic), and your
pathological lying, as demonstrated by your clever, yet fabricated
alliteration above.


John W


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User: "John"

Title: Re: *Serious Question. Honest. 16 Oct 2003 04:36:18 PM
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:48:27 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
n r

On 16 Oct 2003 10:59:05 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:55:27 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

John W <john_weatherly47@yahooo.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:36:47 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On 13 Oct 2003 22:20:45 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:


Funny. Lots of us see TONS of evidence. Perhaps your eyes are shut so
tightly the light cannot get in.


Funny. None of you who claim this alleged evidence never say what it
is and why it is evidence.


You know, it's that funny "ootsie" feeling you get when you think about
Jeebus and the Sacred Spook. Kinda like constipation, but different.


I have a little alliteration for you.

"Your blasphemies will surely be blessed."

(see, the "b's" make a similar sound, hence "alliteration". I just
wanted to be sure you got it! ) :-))


Your slimy sibling sex show solicitations and subsequent silly snarls
and spurious suit scare showed some serious senselessness, stupid
sociopathic sicko.


Good for you!

You learned about alliteration quickly! You ARE smarter than you at
first appear.

Something you don't have to worry about...

PTL!

Now it's time for you to work on your obsessive