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"Therion Ware" |
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10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM |
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Serious Question. Honest. |
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
11 Oct 2003 08:58:50 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:59 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Actually, my prime interest is in the truth; I am always looking
for evidence of what is true.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
On the contrary, I explain it away because it *can* be explained as
not true. There is nothing in the Bible that I find convincing
- instead, I *started* as a believer and the Bible converted me
into an atheist. It struck me as evidence against, not evidence for.
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
So your protestations of your "beliefs" BEFORE reading the Bible
indicate you were NOT a believer if the Bible "unconvinced" you. You
were "of us", yet not "one of us."
John W
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| User: "Figinn" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
11 Oct 2003 09:15:04 PM |
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"John" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:59 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Actually, my prime interest is in the truth; I am always looking
for evidence of what is true.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
On the contrary, I explain it away because it *can* be explained as
not true. There is nothing in the Bible that I find convincing
- instead, I *started* as a believer and the Bible converted me
into an atheist. It struck me as evidence against, not evidence for.
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
I have studied the Bible intensively for the last 10 years. That is not
correct. There are considerable conflicts. While conflicts within the book
do not invalidate God, it is curious to stick to the position that there are
no issues.
So your protestations of your "beliefs" BEFORE reading the Bible
indicate you were NOT a believer if the Bible "unconvinced" you. You
were "of us", yet not "one of us."
Your posts do more to hurt Christianity and theism in general than to help
it. I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
Figinn
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
11 Oct 2003 09:57:16 PM |
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"John" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
Figinn <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for the last 10 years. That is not
correct. There are considerable conflicts. While conflicts within the book
do not invalidate God, it is curious to stick to the position that there are
no issues.
I think it's the easiest way for some people to avoid the issues -
if you deny that they exist, you don't have to spend any work
arguing with people who disagree with you - you can just tell
them that they are liars or unthinking, and move on. The fact
that doing so makes Christians look arrogant or unthinking
themselves may not matter much to him.
Your posts do more to hurt Christianity and theism in general than to help
it. I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
I agree - I consider people like John to be the best allies of
atheists, as they are capable of making Christians think again
about their very identity. If person X is a Christian, and he
acts like that, what does that say about Christianity? (IMO,
what it really says is that Christianity contains all sorts of
people, just like other religions and atheism also. But it
causes problems for those who think that Christianity leads to
good behavior.)
If it helps any, I don't hold the Johns against the Figinns. You
don't have any control over your fellow Christians.
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| User: "John W" |
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12 Oct 2003 10:49:31 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 02:57:16 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
"John" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
Figinn <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for the last 10 years. That is not
correct. There are considerable conflicts. While conflicts within the book
do not invalidate God, it is curious to stick to the position that there are
no issues.
I think it's the easiest way for some people to avoid the issues -
if you deny that they exist, you don't have to spend any work
arguing with people who disagree with you - you can just tell
them that they are liars or unthinking, and move on. The fact
that doing so makes Christians look arrogant or unthinking
themselves may not matter much to him.
I don't avoid anything. I have been through virtually every "issue"
that i have seen in here. And they're all so easy to refute, that when
one of you argues, I know you're not for real.
John W
Your posts do more to hurt Christianity and theism in general than to help
it. I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
I agree - I consider people like John to be the best allies of
atheists, as they are capable of making Christians think again
about their very identity. If person X is a Christian, and he
acts like that, what does that say about Christianity? (IMO,
what it really says is that Christianity contains all sorts of
people, just like other religions and atheism also. But it
causes problems for those who think that Christianity leads to
good behavior.)
If it helps any, I don't hold the Johns against the Figinns. You
don't have any control over your fellow Christians.
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| User: "oz" |
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12 Oct 2003 07:24:42 PM |
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In article <qttiov8r6kg7jnkvkcdp9bspck7tkcepm0@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't avoid anything. I have been through virtually every "issue"
that i have seen in here. And they're all so easy to refute, that when
one of you argues, I know you're not for real.
John W
This is a process on your part that is referred to as denial
You will be able to access far better treatment when you recognise it as
the cornerstone of your behaviour pattern
Your defence of your denial is what causes the abuse -
The shouts of "demon" "liar" "heretic" "alQuaeda"
The threats to people and their families that are surrounded with the
expressed love of handguns
And your inability to respect the opinions of others or take in fresh
information
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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12 Oct 2003 05:27:25 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't avoid anything. I have been through virtually every "issue"
that i have seen in here. And they're all so easy to refute, that when
one of you argues, I know you're not for real.
Claiming that anyone who argues with you is not for real is a pretty
clear case of avoidance IMO. But in any case, it's pretty clear
that I'm not going to get anything from you but abuse, so there's
no point in further communications between us. I'll have to look
elsewhere for rational discussion.
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| User: "John W" |
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13 Oct 2003 05:48:53 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:27:25 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't avoid anything. I have been through virtually every "issue"
that i have seen in here. And they're all so easy to refute, that when
one of you argues, I know you're not for real.
Claiming that anyone who argues with you is not for real is a pretty
clear case of avoidance IMO.
It would be if that were what I said. Your words do NOT reflect what I
said, so you are twisting my words to cheat, defraud, and deceive
already! NOT a good start!
I'd clarify, but I don't wish to waste my time. I believe you are
pre-disposed to twist both my words and their meaning no matter what I
say.
However, just this once.
I did NOT say that "anyone who argues with me is not for real..."
I SAID that I have been through just about every issue being raised IN
THIS GROUP, and I have answered NUMEROUS of these questions IN THIS
GROUP REPEATDLY!
You are asking me nothing I haven't been asked and answered. You are
not serious. You don't come to me with a question for which you
cannot find an answer. You come with jaw stuck out, fangs and claws
bared, and you CHALLENGE me.
WHEN/IF you get serious, come back.
John W
But in any case, it's pretty clear
that I'm not going to get anything from you but abuse, so there's
no point in further communications between us. I'll have to look
elsewhere for rational discussion.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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12 Oct 2003 09:56:59 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2003 15:49:31 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I don't avoid anything.
Lie #1
I have been through virtually every "issue"
By avoiding to answer those issues. Just shout victory and run away.
We'll understand.
that i have seen in here. And they're all so easy to refute, that when
one of you argues, I know you're not for real.
Lie #2
Sjonny, about those incest stories you write, where can I find a
teaser n the Net? I want to see if your incest stories are any better
than you post here.
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| User: "John W" |
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12 Oct 2003 10:48:04 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:15:04 -0400, "Figinn" <nospam@verizon.net>
wrote:
"John" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e7dhovsqubqg9v680141b4cfv62jg5mh14@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:59 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Actually, my prime interest is in the truth; I am always looking
for evidence of what is true.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
On the contrary, I explain it away because it *can* be explained as
not true. There is nothing in the Bible that I find convincing
- instead, I *started* as a believer and the Bible converted me
into an atheist. It struck me as evidence against, not evidence for.
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
I have studied the Bible intensively for the last 10 years. That is not
correct. There are considerable conflicts. While conflicts within the book
do not invalidate God, it is curious to stick to the position that there are
no issues.
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
So your protestations of your "beliefs" BEFORE reading the Bible
indicate you were NOT a believer if the Bible "unconvinced" you. You
were "of us", yet not "one of us."
Your posts do more to hurt Christianity and theism in general than to help
it.
You have the right to your beliefs/disbeliefs.
I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
I do not tone down God's message of Wrath.
John W
Figinn
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| User: "Figinn" |
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12 Oct 2003 11:25:35 AM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:15:04 -0400, "Figinn" <nospam@verizon.net>
wrote:
"John" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e7dhovsqubqg9v680141b4cfv62jg5mh14@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:59 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Actually, my prime interest is in the truth; I am always looking
for evidence of what is true.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
On the contrary, I explain it away because it *can* be explained as
not true. There is nothing in the Bible that I find convincing
- instead, I *started* as a believer and the Bible converted me
into an atheist. It struck me as evidence against, not evidence for.
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
I have studied the Bible intensively for the last 10 years. That is not
correct. There are considerable conflicts. While conflicts within the
book
do not invalidate God, it is curious to stick to the position that there
are
no issues.
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
My study began at college ... last I checked, there were a few scholars
there.
So your protestations of your "beliefs" BEFORE reading the Bible
indicate you were NOT a believer if the Bible "unconvinced" you. You
were "of us", yet not "one of us."
Your posts do more to hurt Christianity and theism in general than to
help
it.
You have the right to your beliefs/disbeliefs.
I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
I do not tone down God's message of Wrath.
God's wrath notwithstanding, do you *really* believe you bring many folks to
your way of understanding with such closed minded speak?
Figinn
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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12 Oct 2003 05:27:22 PM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found
NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Figinn <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:
My study began at college ... last I checked, there were a few scholars
there.
You don't understand - they don't agree with John Weatherly, so they
are not scholars. Only people who agree with him are scholars. :)
Figinn <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:
I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
I do not tone down God's message of Wrath.
God's wrath notwithstanding, do you *really* believe you bring many folks to
your way of understanding with such closed minded speak?
I doubt he's much interested in that - he seems to much prefer
attacking people to convincing them. Sometimes it's more
satisfying to be self-righteous than to be righteous.
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| User: "John W" |
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13 Oct 2003 05:58:14 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:27:22 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found
NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Figinn <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:
My study began at college ... last I checked, there were a few scholars
there.
You don't understand - they don't agree with John Weatherly, so they
are not scholars. Only people who agree with him are scholars. :)
Figinn <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:
I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
I do not tone down God's message of Wrath.
God's wrath notwithstanding, do you *really* believe you bring many folks to
your way of understanding with such closed minded speak?
I doubt he's much interested in that - he seems to much prefer
attacking people to convincing them. Sometimes it's more
satisfying to be self-righteous than to be righteous.
They lied about Jesus and the apostles as well. And are you now giving
lessons to us on being self-righteous? Christ is my righteousness.
John W
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Knowing you, you probably first asked your parents if they'd get you a
book where ***** and Jane had sex :)
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "John W" |
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13 Oct 2003 05:56:47 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Sorry for the typo.
John W
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Knowing you, you probably first asked your parents if they'd get you a
book where ***** and Jane had sex :)
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john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "John" |
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13 Oct 2003 07:55:12 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
John W
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13 Oct 2003 09:22:16 PM |
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John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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14 Oct 2003 08:20:57 AM |
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In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 09:07:55 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
(Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 01:44:12 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 07:40:58 AM |
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In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 11:55:12 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 02:08:51 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
16 Oct 2003 01:06:56 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<cj6rov85ocabr1m61mmm1o40c0n43d6qk1@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
16 Oct 2003 02:10:51 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:06:56 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<cj6rov85ocabr1m61mmm1o40c0n43d6qk1@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
17 Oct 2003 06:02:43 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<m1rtovksmh2h0k56f04005iqpoaeojvf7m@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:06:56 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<cj6rov85ocabr1m61mmm1o40c0n43d6qk1@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
18 Oct 2003 03:29:39 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
18 Oct 2003 10:24:20 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
18 Oct 2003 01:47:59 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
That can't be a smart career move.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
19 Oct 2003 02:33:11 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:47:59 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<5h23pvk4fflv8e50b0ercvtsj2645lt846@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
That can't be a smart career move.
True. Such is a dead end......
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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