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"Therion Ware" |
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10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM |
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Serious Question. Honest. |
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
18 Oct 2003 07:18:29 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:47:59 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
That can't be a smart career move.
Dying? Dunno. Elvis is making a killing...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
19 Oct 2003 02:16:37 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:18:29 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:47:59 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
That can't be a smart career move.
Dying? Dunno. Elvis is making a killing...
I have to admit that he has gotten rid of his drug problem.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
19 Oct 2003 02:33:44 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:16:37 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<f6e4pv8lq6qf95njj01qalbq80jed955ds@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:18:29 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:47:59 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
That can't be a smart career move.
Dying? Dunno. Elvis is making a killing...
I have to admit that he has gotten rid of his drug problem.
And lost weight.....(and his voice)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
19 Oct 2003 09:19:47 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:16:37 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:18:29 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:47:59 +0200, Thomas P. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:24:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:39 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<e0u1pvgj29svfek1kle4gmisaojh47iull@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:51 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
Even with Dr. Bombay?
Who?
A character in the 1960's "Bewitched" television series.
Him I remember. I thought there might have been a new development.
I think he died a few years ago....so that would be a fairly new
development.......
That can't be a smart career move.
Dying? Dunno. Elvis is making a killing...
I have to admit that he has gotten rid of his drug problem.
But what a rotten rehab...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
From alt.atheism only
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 02:29:35 PM |
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Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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15 Oct 2003 02:39:38 PM |
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Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Or a Floradora girl...
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 02:47:25 PM |
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In article <cv7rovcd9ni4vja1rds1t9qk0471kdd5rt@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Arrrrrgh! You wisenheimer! Now I'm going to have the dang theme song for that
show stuck in my noggin! ;/
For this, you shall pay ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 04:57:49 PM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cv7rovcd9ni4vja1rds1t9qk0471kdd5rt@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Arrrrrgh! You wisenheimer! Now I'm going to have the dang theme song for that
show stuck in my noggin! ;/
For this, you shall pay ;)
I'm already paying. Six bucks at the Hello Kitty outlet last week for a
"backpack backpack!"
Although it does have advantages. She now carries her own diaper bag :)
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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16 Oct 2003 10:45:03 AM |
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In article <nkgrovotgubrcuqj4fhifip0o6048skm17@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cv7rovcd9ni4vja1rds1t9qk0471kdd5rt@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:55:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:40:58 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <ufbjb.24153$cJ5.3495@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <kp9povo8h6bepcag2m3vcbpu9gkigeqssv@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs says...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:20:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
ARGGGHH Noooo. Not magenta!!!!
Hmmmm, would you prefer "not puce"?
<running away, covering my sore eyes>
Here's some witch hazel. It'll work wonders ;)
Endora......
And outdora. It works everywhere.
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Arrrrrgh! You wisenheimer! Now I'm going to have the dang theme song for that
show stuck in my noggin! ;/
For this, you shall pay ;)
I'm already paying. Six bucks at the Hello Kitty outlet last week for a
"backpack backpack!"
LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
Although it does have advantages. She now carries her own diaper bag :)
Excellent - Soon she'll be moving onto Gucci purses :D
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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16 Oct 2003 11:41:36 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <nkgrovotgubrcuqj4fhifip0o6048skm17@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cv7rovcd9ni4vja1rds1t9qk0471kdd5rt@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Arrrrrgh! You wisenheimer! Now I'm going to have the dang theme song for that
show stuck in my noggin! ;/
For this, you shall pay ;)
I'm already paying. Six bucks at the Hello Kitty outlet last week for a
"backpack backpack!"
LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
It's very possibly the creepiest place in the universe, filled with
giant staring eyes, mouthless anthropomorphic animals, colorful soulless
character trinkets of every description, and Asian moms ensuring that
they have purchased every existing product containing their favorite
cat/frog/dog/squid/whatever.
IOW, it's almost as creepy as Wal Mart.
It was funny. When I was there with the critter, the saleslady made sure
to point out to me that they just got in several new colors of Hello
Kitty coffe makers. I pinched up my face for a moment and said ". . .for
four year-old girls who drink coffee, I presume?" at which point I got a
lecture about how Hello Kitty isn't just for four year-old girls but is
for EVERYONE!
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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16 Oct 2003 12:14:10 PM |
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LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
It's very possibly the creepiest place in the universe, filled with
giant staring eyes, mouthless anthropomorphic animals, colorful soulless
character trinkets of every description, and Asian moms ensuring that
they have purchased every existing product containing their favorite
cat/frog/dog/squid/whatever.
Well, I could post the link where you can get "Hello Kitty" vibrators and adult
toys but then I'd have to explain where I got it from. :} (I got in from
the "Sinfest" comic strip website)
IOW, it's almost as creepy as Wal Mart.
Nothing is that creepy.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
16 Oct 2003 12:55:27 PM |
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In article <ruhtov4qo58dvbntdq4agfpgbd72k47ju9@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <nkgrovotgubrcuqj4fhifip0o6048skm17@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cv7rovcd9ni4vja1rds1t9qk0471kdd5rt@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Arrrrrgh! You wisenheimer! Now I'm going to have the dang theme song for that
show stuck in my noggin! ;/
For this, you shall pay ;)
I'm already paying. Six bucks at the Hello Kitty outlet last week for a
"backpack backpack!"
LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
It's very possibly the creepiest place in the universe, filled with
giant staring eyes, mouthless anthropomorphic animals, colorful soulless
character trinkets of every description, and Asian moms ensuring that
they have purchased every existing product containing their favorite
cat/frog/dog/squid/whatever.
Yikes! I know there's a display in my local Treasure Island, but it's nowhere
near that creepy.
IOW, it's almost as creepy as Wal Mart.
Double-yikes!
It was funny. When I was there with the critter, the saleslady made sure
to point out to me that they just got in several new colors of Hello
Kitty coffe makers.
Wha?!?
I pinched up my face for a moment and said ". . .for
four year-old girls who drink coffee, I presume?" at which point I got a
lecture about how Hello Kitty isn't just for four year-old girls but is
for EVERYONE!
SNARK! Oh dear! Any witty responses from you on this? :)
Actually, a coworker of mine DOES have a friend who is a Hello Kitty freak - I
think she's in her early 30s :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
16 Oct 2003 01:24:05 PM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <ruhtov4qo58dvbntdq4agfpgbd72k47ju9@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
It's very possibly the creepiest place in the universe, filled with
giant staring eyes, mouthless anthropomorphic animals, colorful soulless
character trinkets of every description, and Asian moms ensuring that
they have purchased every existing product containing their favorite
cat/frog/dog/squid/whatever.
Yikes! I know there's a display in my local Treasure Island, but it's nowhere
near that creepy.
IOW, it's almost as creepy as Wal Mart.
Double-yikes!
It was funny. When I was there with the critter, the saleslady made sure
to point out to me that they just got in several new colors of Hello
Kitty coffe makers.
Wha?!?
I pinched up my face for a moment and said ". . .for
four year-old girls who drink coffee, I presume?" at which point I got a
lecture about how Hello Kitty isn't just for four year-old girls but is
for EVERYONE!
SNARK! Oh dear! Any witty responses from you on this? :)
No, just a quick retreat from the store. At that point, the critter was
demanding her "bap-pap bap-pap!", so I had a perfect opportunity to
avoid having to explain that anyone over the age of four who's into
Hello Kitty should be on antipsychotics (of which there's probably a
Hello Kitty brand).
Actually, a coworker of mine DOES have a friend who is a Hello Kitty freak - I
think she's in her early 30s :)
She got one of these?
http://www.jlist.com/R/ADULTTOYS/
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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16 Oct 2003 01:42:39 PM |
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In article <mlntovsleffk4sf0ubqfdjstob5jhrre2r@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <ruhtov4qo58dvbntdq4agfpgbd72k47ju9@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
It's very possibly the creepiest place in the universe, filled with
giant staring eyes, mouthless anthropomorphic animals, colorful soulless
character trinkets of every description, and Asian moms ensuring that
they have purchased every existing product containing their favorite
cat/frog/dog/squid/whatever.
Yikes! I know there's a display in my local Treasure Island, but it's nowhere
near that creepy.
IOW, it's almost as creepy as Wal Mart.
Double-yikes!
It was funny. When I was there with the critter, the saleslady made sure
to point out to me that they just got in several new colors of Hello
Kitty coffe makers.
Wha?!?
I pinched up my face for a moment and said ". . .for
four year-old girls who drink coffee, I presume?" at which point I got a
lecture about how Hello Kitty isn't just for four year-old girls but is
for EVERYONE!
SNARK! Oh dear! Any witty responses from you on this? :)
No, just a quick retreat from the store. At that point, the critter was
demanding her "bap-pap bap-pap!",
How cute! :)
so I had a perfect opportunity to
avoid having to explain that anyone over the age of four who's into
Hello Kitty should be on antipsychotics (of which there's probably a
Hello Kitty brand).
Actually, a coworker of mine DOES have a friend who is a Hello Kitty freak - I
think she's in her early 30s :)
She got one of these?
http://www.jlist.com/R/ADULTTOYS/
D'oh!
I don't know and I'm sure as heck not going to ask?!? :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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17 Oct 2003 06:00:53 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:41:36 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <ruhtov4qo58dvbntdq4agfpgbd72k47ju9@4ax.com> wrote in
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <nkgrovotgubrcuqj4fhifip0o6048skm17@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cv7rovcd9ni4vja1rds1t9qk0471kdd5rt@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
I haven't heard of that stuff. I'll have to go to the store and be a
dora explorer.
Arrrrrgh! You wisenheimer! Now I'm going to have the dang theme song for that
show stuck in my noggin! ;/
For this, you shall pay ;)
I'm already paying. Six bucks at the Hello Kitty outlet last week for a
"backpack backpack!"
LOL! You have a Hello Kitty outlet? The witchling would go insane there ;)
It's very possibly the creepiest place in the universe, filled with
giant staring eyes, mouthless anthropomorphic animals, colorful soulless
character trinkets of every description, and Asian moms ensuring that
they have purchased every existing product containing their favorite
cat/frog/dog/squid/whatever.
IOW, it's almost as creepy as Wal Mart.
It was funny. When I was there with the critter, the saleslady made sure
to point out to me that they just got in several new colors of Hello
Kitty coffe makers. I pinched up my face for a moment and said ". . .for
four year-old girls who drink coffee, I presume?" at which point I got a
lecture about how Hello Kitty isn't just for four year-old girls but is
for EVERYONE!
/John mode....
It is? (he places on in a bag) Thank you kindly for the lovely gift,
saleslady."
:)))))
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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14 Oct 2003 09:10:42 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
I'm not cyan your point here.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Oct 2003 09:18:50 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:10:42 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <4u0oovgni9h3f384ahi4c64tkfeugla7em@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
I'm not cyan your point here.
Awwwww, ya myst.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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15 Oct 2003 02:31:33 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:18:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:10:42 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <4u0oovgni9h3f384ahi4c64tkfeugla7em@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
I'm not cyan your point here.
Awwwww, ya myst.
Your point is in violet.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Oct 2003 11:54:21 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:33 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<mptpov8v4pqhu90np1lkct9ksshratco53@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:18:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:10:42 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <4u0oovgni9h3f384ahi4c64tkfeugla7em@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:41:46 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Correction. You were caught lying.
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
I'm not cyan your point here.
Awwwww, ya myst.
Your point is in violet.
But not pomagranete or puce.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
15 Oct 2003 08:37:49 AM |
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Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:18:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:10:42 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <4u0oovgni9h3f384ahi4c64tkfeugla7em@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
I'm not cyan your point here.
Awwwww, ya myst.
Your point is in violet.
Orange you glad this thread is finally starting to make sense?
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Oct 2003 11:54:42 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:37:49 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <5bjqov0nsoj5qk5p58e6dsh9qrkkgulb14@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:18:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:10:42 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <4u0oovgni9h3f384ahi4c64tkfeugla7em@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:
In article <cenmov8jdqiscg0gsm7if3ghd25dk2tbph@4ax.com>, John Hattan says...
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Correction, *****. Have you never heard of a typo?
Not read.
Not magenta ;)
I'm not cyan your point here.
Awwwww, ya myst.
Your point is in violet.
Orange you glad this thread is finally starting to make sense?
Reddilly.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "walksaloneno.thanks.org" |
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13 Oct 2003 11:17:17 AM |
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John W wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have
found NO "considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had
some Ph Dd, Th Dd scholars helping you with your questions and
doubts.
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
Then you started your bible studies at the age of 17 & not the age of 5
when Billy Graham **led you to god***????? What other lies are you
going to try to typo away this year, & next??????
Was your bible study started in high school, DC, Virginia, Maryland,
S.C., or were they started after you were drafted into the
USAF[implied], or was that before or after your draft notice?? Do you
even know when it was????
Sorry for the typo.
Everyone knows you are sorry, quit bragging about it & just clean up
your mess & return it to where it belongs, off the newsgroups.
John W
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
He has so many idiotic & ridiculous claims [read lies] that he can't
keep track of them & he is trying to cover them up as fast as he can.
Problem for him is he has managed to irk more people than he ever
dreamed in his self delusion he thought he would.
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Knowing you, you probably first asked your parents if they'd get
you a book where ***** and Jane had sex :)
With or without Spot, the Hero of that series?
walksalone who has jw ry to duck his lies before, & will see it again.
Just about every post actually.
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Oct 2003 08:15:12 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 10:56:47 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <h51lovcrf487eg1fplbf4tev0o9t8m2gcj@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Correction. I have studied the Bible intensively for 40 years.
And haven't learned a damn thing.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Oct 2003 03:37:11 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:06:16 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <bsuiovciul7veslo0ceg1dvodnomvi6a5o@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have studied the Bible intensively for 50 years. And I have found NO
"considerable conflicts." Perhaps you should have had some Ph Dd, Th
Dd scholars helping you with your questions and doubts.
Didn't you claim to be around 55 years old? Did you start this
"intensive study" shortly after completing "***** and Jane".
Knowing you, you probably first asked your parents if they'd get you a
book where ***** and Jane had sex :)
Rumble seat............................
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Oct 2003 03:36:12 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:15:04 -0400, "Figinn" <nospam@verizon.net>,
Message ID: <bmadfr$kcmko$1@ID-202989.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote in
alt.atheism;
"John" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e7dhovsqubqg9v680141b4cfv62jg5mh14@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:17:59 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Actually, my prime interest is in the truth; I am always looking
for evidence of what is true.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why? Not because it's not true. You shove it aside because you
simply aren't interested.
On the contrary, I explain it away because it *can* be explained as
not true. There is nothing in the Bible that I find convincing
- instead, I *started* as a believer and the Bible converted me
into an atheist. It struck me as evidence against, not evidence for.
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
I have studied the Bible intensively for the last 10 years. That is not
correct. There are considerable conflicts. While conflicts within the book
do not invalidate God, it is curious to stick to the position that there are
no issues.
UUUUUUUmmmmmmmmmmmm....yes they do.
Mr. Weatherly is addicted to bearing false witness.
So your protestations of your "beliefs" BEFORE reading the Bible
indicate you were NOT a believer if the Bible "unconvinced" you. You
were "of us", yet not "one of us."
Your posts do more to hurt Christianity and theism in general than to help
it. I truly hope that you someday realize this and tone down your act a
little.
He's much too insecure and ignorant, I'm afraid.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
11 Oct 2003 09:57:13 PM |
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Abner Mintz wrote:
On the contrary, I explain it away because it *can* be explained as
not true. There is nothing in the Bible that I find convincing
- instead, I *started* as a believer and the Bible converted me
into an atheist. It struck me as evidence against, not evidence for.
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
You have obviously not studied beyond the "assumed inconsistencies".
It may please you to decide that everyone who disagrees with you
hasn't given the issue proper thought ... but in the real world,
it is possible for people to honestly and deeply consider an issue
and still disagree.
I spent many years studying the issue, and the more I studied, the
more my faith crumbled ... until there was none left. If you wish
to disregard my life and experiences as obviously untrue, that's
your perogative ... and it is only fair for me to disregard your
life and experiences as well. After all, if you disagree with me,
you have obviously not studied the issue ...
Those of us who have made a life's study of the Bible find no serious
conflicts.
Except, of course, for those who do find serious conflicts. But then,
to you they don't exist, since (in your version of reality) anyone
who truly studies the Bible must agree with you. If they don't
agree with you, they didn't study ...
So your protestations of your "beliefs" BEFORE reading the Bible
indicate you were NOT a believer if the Bible "unconvinced" you. You
were "of us", yet not "one of us."
It's so easy for you to avoid dealing with unpleasant truths by
just editing me out of your world. If I don't fit into your
ideology, I don't really exist ...
You have my sympathy, but not my agreement. And you're not likely
to get my agreement by closing your eyes and chanting that I don't
exist. That's one thing I am quite sure of.
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
11 Oct 2003 07:53:53 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com (Kenny Leong) wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Be careful, if you look to intently, you may see things that aren't
there. Even honest people are fooled when their desire to see
something exceeds their ability to discern.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why?
When the question is whether the contents of a book are accurate, you
cannot seriously present its contents as evidence, can you? If that
were the case, Iraq would indeed have WMD. Claims have to be supported
by evidence. Claims cannot be supported by themselves.
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11 Oct 2003 08:57:04 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:53:53 GMT, (xyzzy) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com (Kenny Leong) wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Be careful, if you look to intently, you may see things that aren't
there. Even honest people are fooled when their desire to see
something exceeds their ability to discern.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why?
When the question is whether the contents of a book are accurate, you
cannot seriously present its contents as evidence, can you? If that
were the case, Iraq would indeed have WMD. Claims have to be supported
by evidence. Claims cannot be supported by themselves.
If you were aware of the fulfilled prophesies in the Old Testament,
you would know that you are wrong. For instance, the birthplace of
Christ was prophesied HUNDREDS of years before His birth. How did the
prophet know that? You say: "Well, it was written AFTERWARDS." That is
not proof. That is your opinion.
John W
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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12 Oct 2003 12:19:10 AM |
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In alt.atheism on 12 Oct 2003 01:57:04 GMT, John
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:53:53 GMT, (xyzzy) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com (Kenny Leong) wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Be careful, if you look to intently, you may see things that aren't
there. Even honest people are fooled when their desire to see
something exceeds their ability to discern.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why?
When the question is whether the contents of a book are accurate, you
cannot seriously present its contents as evidence, can you? If that
were the case, Iraq would indeed have WMD. Claims have to be supported
by evidence. Claims cannot be supported by themselves.
If you were aware of the fulfilled prophesies in the Old Testament,
you would know that you are wrong.
Of which there are 0.
For instance, the birthplace of
Christ was prophesied HUNDREDS of years before His birth.
No it wasn't. Bethelehem Ephrat is a TRIBE, not a PLACE. (See, I
know you're trying for Micah 5:2)
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Doug Semler" |
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11 Oct 2003 10:59:20 PM |
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In news:54dhovo05e6j7509f436r3cbdjscqundmd@4ax.com,
John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> slavered, and posted this:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:53:53 GMT, (xyzzy) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com (Kenny Leong) wrote:
And you will never see any evidence for God because you #1 aren't
looking and #2 you aren't interested.
Be careful, if you look to intently, you may see things that aren't
there. Even honest people are fooled when their desire to see
something exceeds their ability to discern.
There is a bundle of evidence in the Bible, but you just explain it
away. Why?
When the question is whether the contents of a book are accurate, you
cannot seriously present its contents as evidence, can you? If that
were the case, Iraq would indeed have WMD. Claims have to be supported
by evidence. Claims cannot be supported by themselves.
If you were aware of the fulfilled prophesies in the Old Testament,
you would know that you are wrong. For instance, the birthplace of
Christ was prophesied HUNDREDS of years before His birth. How did the
prophet know that? You say: "Well, it was written AFTERWARDS." That is
not proof. That is your opinion.
And if you knew anything of history, you would know that the Gospel accounts
of Jesus' birth are seriously flawed (J&M travelling for the census, and of
Herod's supposed Slaughter of Innocents). Not only were these events not
contemporaneous to each other, but the accounts given and reasons thereto
are plain WRONG.
But getting back to the prophecy part. You have to remember that these
supposed prophecies were well known to the authors of the Gospels. You also
have to remember that the Gospels were written not only years after the
death of Jesus, but after the offshoot of Judaism called Christianity
started. Historically speaking, the Gospel accounts of the birth of Jesus
were more likely specifically written in an attempt to fulfill the
"prophecies" of the OT.
It is easy to shape current events in order to fulfill "prophecies." Look
what happened after the WTC attacks and how people attempted to show that
Nostradomus "prophecised" the attacks.
--
Doug Semler
http://home.wideopenwest.com/~doug_semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
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