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"Therion Ware" |
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10 Oct 2003 12:07:11 PM |
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Serious Question. Honest. |
Message originates from alt.atheism. You have been warned!
We Godless atheists are sometimes asked by believers of various
stripe: "what would convince you there is a God?".
By the same token I'm curious to know is there is any matter of fact,
that if shown beyond any doubt to be true, or at least beyond
reasonable dispute, that would convince you believers that there is no
God.
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- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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13 Oct 2003 04:37:42 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Well, duh. Of course Christians are going to think he is brilliant.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 10:00:50 AM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
That's funny because when *I* was a conservative, Bible believing,
"1st Century, New Testament" (I'm fairly certain I know what you're
talking about here, too) born again Christian, I thought C S Lewis was
a little to loose with the scriptures. He read many things (such as
hell) to be allegorical which I thought were clearly literal in
Scripture. I chalked that up to influence from the Anglican Church.
I'd suggest reading "The Great Divorce" sometime to see what I'm
talking about.
--
<http://www20.brinkster.com/beowulf9/gottod/Jesus%20Hates%20The%20Little%20Children.html>
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
13 Oct 2003 07:05:49 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:00:50 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
That's funny because when *I* was a conservative, Bible believing,
"1st Century, New Testament" (I'm fairly certain I know what you're
talking about here, too) born again Christian, I thought C S Lewis was
a little to loose with the scriptures. He read many things (such as
hell) to be allegorical which I thought were clearly literal in
Scripture. I chalked that up to influence from the Anglican Church.
You have misconstrued or misunderstood my words. I didn't say that
Lewis is flawless in every aspect. I am sure I'd find SOME difference
with virtually ANY theologian.
I SAID that Mere Christianity is flawless.
I'd suggest reading "The Great Divorce" sometime to see what I'm
talking about.
ok.
Thanks for the tip.
John W
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
16 Oct 2003 11:50:24 AM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:05:49 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
ejaculated:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:00:50 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
That's funny because when *I* was a conservative, Bible believing,
"1st Century, New Testament" (I'm fairly certain I know what you're
talking about here, too) born again Christian, I thought C S Lewis was
a little to loose with the scriptures. He read many things (such as
hell) to be allegorical which I thought were clearly literal in
Scripture. I chalked that up to influence from the Anglican Church.
You have misconstrued or misunderstood my words. I didn't say that
Lewis is flawless in every aspect. I am sure I'd find SOME difference
with virtually ANY theologian.
I SAID that Mere Christianity is flawless.
Well, in that case, you are simply wrong. Lewis assumes his
conclusion a number of times, commits the fallacy of false dichotomy
numerous times, shows rank ignorance of evolutionary psychology
(hardly his fault since the discipline didn't really exist when he
wrote, however, it shows that the "treatise" is not flawless, but
rather dated and inaccurate) as it relates to the development of
morality among social animals.
If you're right and Lewis's "Mere Christianity" is the best apologetic
that Christians can field, then there is no reason to waste anymore of
my time on it for a second go-round.
I'd suggest reading "The Great Divorce" sometime to see what I'm
talking about.
ok.
Thanks for the tip.
No problemo. HAND.
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Serious Question. Honest. |
14 Oct 2003 01:34:23 AM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:05:49 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:00:50 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
That's funny because when *I* was a conservative, Bible believing,
"1st Century, New Testament" (I'm fairly certain I know what you're
talking about here, too) born again Christian, I thought C S Lewis was
a little to loose with the scriptures. He read many things (such as
hell) to be allegorical which I thought were clearly literal in
Scripture. I chalked that up to influence from the Anglican Church.
You have misconstrued or misunderstood my words. I didn't say that
Lewis is flawless in every aspect. I am sure I'd find SOME difference
with virtually ANY theologian.
So now you claim you are more brilliant than Lewis, the same horrible
crime you accused others of.
I'd suggest reading "The Great Divorce" sometime to see what I'm
talking about.
ok.
Thanks for the tip.
John W
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Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Oct 2003 07:24:24 PM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:05:49 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>, Message
ID: <9afmov457jooq7uat4q6pqj5gmtr6mn1nm@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:00:50 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
ejaculated:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
That's funny because when *I* was a conservative, Bible believing,
"1st Century, New Testament" (I'm fairly certain I know what you're
talking about here, too) born again Christian, I thought C S Lewis was
a little to loose with the scriptures. He read many things (such as
hell) to be allegorical which I thought were clearly literal in
Scripture. I chalked that up to influence from the Anglican Church.
You have misconstrued or misunderstood my words. I didn't say that
Lewis is flawless in every aspect. I am sure I'd find SOME difference
with virtually ANY theologian.
I SAID that Mere Christianity is flawless.
Flawless *****, yes.
(snip)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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14 Oct 2003 07:57:53 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Flawless *****, yes.
Uh oh. You used a cuss-word. You're now guaranteed to get a
tongue-lashing from Weatherlincest, as he's apparently the only one
allowed to use them.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Oct 2003 11:04:17 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:57:53 -0500, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>,
Message ID: <sq6pov8g1eidmk5aiube4l5ud1c1tiohip@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Flawless *****, yes.
Uh oh. You used a cuss-word. You're now guaranteed to get a
tongue-lashing from Weatherlincest, as he's apparently the only one
allowed to use them.
Sorry, but getting a rim job from him doesn't interest me.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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13 Oct 2003 12:06:34 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
John W
That is wonderful! Since the good doctor was an Anglo Catholic, and
since you believe he was brilliant, when do you intend to convert?
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "John" |
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13 Oct 2003 07:07:36 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:34 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
John W
That is wonderful! Since the good doctor was an Anglo Catholic, and
since you believe he was brilliant, when do you intend to convert?
I do not recall anything being said about Dr. Lewis being Catholic.
Church of England, yes.
And I didn't say I buy EVERYTHING Dr. Lewis teaches. However, I have
not yet encountered anything he's written (I haven't read a LOT of CS
Lewis) that I disagree with.
John W
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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14 Oct 2003 01:34:24 AM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:07:36 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:34 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
John W
That is wonderful! Since the good doctor was an Anglo Catholic, and
since you believe he was brilliant, when do you intend to convert?
I do not recall anything being said about Dr. Lewis being Catholic.
Church of England, yes.
I said "Anglo Catholic".
And I didn't say I buy EVERYTHING Dr. Lewis teaches. However, I have
not yet encountered anything he's written (I haven't read a LOT of CS
Lewis) that I disagree with.
You have also indicated that it is foolish to disagree with people who
are brilliant, or does that only apply to other people?
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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14 Oct 2003 12:34:36 AM |
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On 14 Oct 2003 00:07:36 GMT, John <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
That is wonderful! Since the good doctor was an Anglo Catholic, and
since you believe he was brilliant, when do you intend to convert?
I do not recall anything being said about Dr. Lewis being Catholic.
Church of England, yes.
Come on! The ONLY 2 difference between RCC and CoE are married priests
and the pope.
And I didn't say I buy EVERYTHING Dr. Lewis teaches.
Only the parts that you like. Mind if I join you walking the salad
bar?
However, I have
not yet encountered anything he's written (I haven't read a LOT of CS
Lewis) that I disagree with.
That you do buy EVERYTHING the good doctor teaches.
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Oct 2003 07:27:52 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:06:34 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<kgmlovc358bn7bnm4p5oqp8k47vrfln5uk@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
John W
That is wonderful! Since the good doctor was an Anglo Catholic, and
since you believe he was brilliant, when do you intend to convert?
(snicker)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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13 Oct 2003 04:38:51 PM |
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Thomas P. <tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> thought hard and said:
That is wonderful! Since the good doctor was an Anglo Catholic, and
since you believe he was brilliant, when do you intend to convert?
Oopsie! I do not think JW wants to know that.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Oct 2003 06:05:07 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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14 Oct 2003 01:34:25 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:05:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
It is amazingly simplistic.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<fv5nov01vlq6lamg8hklf3of6baho351ke@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:05:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
It is amazingly simplistic.
So is John Weatherly. A perfect match.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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15 Oct 2003 02:31:31 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<fv5nov01vlq6lamg8hklf3of6baho351ke@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:05:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
It is amazingly simplistic.
So is John Weatherly. A perfect match.
Lewis at least attempted to present an argument. I am also certain
that one could have had a polite conversation with Lewis about the
subject.
Weatherly or people with similar attitudes would be horrifying if they
ever had political power. Everyone who disagreed with them would be
automatically classified as evil and would have to be destroyed.
Calvin comes to mind. The only difference is that Calvin was a
monster with intelligence, which made him worse than Weatherly could
ever be. He will continue to be a pathetic loon, the type one would
see cheering while watching one of Calvin's heretics burning. Of
course he would also think that Calvin should be burned.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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16 Oct 2003 11:53:54 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> ejaculated:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<fv5nov01vlq6lamg8hklf3of6baho351ke@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:05:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
It is amazingly simplistic.
So is John Weatherly. A perfect match.
Lewis at least attempted to present an argument. I am also certain
that one could have had a polite conversation with Lewis about the
subject.
Weatherly or people with similar attitudes would be horrifying if they
ever had political power. Everyone who disagreed with them would be
automatically classified as evil and would have to be destroyed.
Calvin comes to mind. The only difference is that Calvin was a
monster with intelligence, which made him worse than Weatherly could
ever be. He will continue to be a pathetic loon, the type one would
see cheering while watching one of Calvin's heretics burning. Of
course he would also think that Calvin should be burned.
The Baptist college I went to (which was formerly owned by
Presbyterians until the early 50's) would not allow 5-point Calvinists
to teach on its staff.
One of the professors of sociology was a closet Calvinist, though. He
was kind of cool.
The main advantage of Calvinism, IMO, over the other forms of
Christianity is that they dispense with all this "free will" nonsense
right up front and admit that god likes to burn people in hell.
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16 Oct 2003 02:10:49 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:53:54 -0400, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,> ejaculated:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<fv5nov01vlq6lamg8hklf3of6baho351ke@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:05:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
It is amazingly simplistic.
So is John Weatherly. A perfect match.
Lewis at least attempted to present an argument. I am also certain
that one could have had a polite conversation with Lewis about the
subject.
Weatherly or people with similar attitudes would be horrifying if they
ever had political power. Everyone who disagreed with them would be
automatically classified as evil and would have to be destroyed.
Calvin comes to mind. The only difference is that Calvin was a
monster with intelligence, which made him worse than Weatherly could
ever be. He will continue to be a pathetic loon, the type one would
see cheering while watching one of Calvin's heretics burning. Of
course he would also think that Calvin should be burned.
The Baptist college I went to (which was formerly owned by
Presbyterians until the early 50's) would not allow 5-point Calvinists
to teach on its staff.
One of the professors of sociology was a closet Calvinist, though. He
was kind of cool.
The main advantage of Calvinism, IMO, over the other forms of
Christianity is that they dispense with all this "free will" nonsense
right up front and admit that god likes to burn people in hell.
Christianity can present itself as nice and be dishonest, or it can be
honest and present itself as monsterous. People end up twisted either
way.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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15 Oct 2003 11:06:10 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<notpovss6atr7c60h0m4rogm7irem8u4qg@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<fv5nov01vlq6lamg8hklf3of6baho351ke@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:05:07 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 13 Oct 2003 09:28:49 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>,
Message ID: <7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Even my New Age family member enjoyed Chronicles of Narnia.
And Lewis's treatise "Mere Christianity" is flawless.
Flawless horseshit.
It is amazingly simplistic.
So is John Weatherly. A perfect match.
Lewis at least attempted to present an argument. I am also certain
that one could have had a polite conversation with Lewis about the
subject.
Probably.
Weatherly or people with similar attitudes would be horrifying if they
ever had political power. Everyone who disagreed with them would be
automatically classified as evil and would have to be destroyed.
Calvin comes to mind. The only difference is that Calvin was a
monster with intelligence, which made him worse than Weatherly could
ever be. He will continue to be a pathetic loon, the type one would
see cheering while watching one of Calvin's heretics burning. Of
course he would also think that Calvin should be burned.
Weatherly should do self-immolation in such a case.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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15 Oct 2003 02:08:51 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:10 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<notpovss6atr7c60h0m4rogm7irem8u4qg@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
snip
Weatherly should do self-immolation in such a case.
He and god are special buddies, so he is always right.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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16 Oct 2003 12:51:33 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<ii6rovg5ihlv2ifat4kehe4g0hkhg9139k@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:10 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<notpovss6atr7c60h0m4rogm7irem8u4qg@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
snip
Weatherly should do self-immolation in such a case.
He and god are special buddies, so he is always right.
"We should always be disposed to believe that that which
appears to us to be white is really black, if the
hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
- Exercita spiritualia / 1541
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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16 Oct 2003 02:10:49 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:51:33 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<ii6rovg5ihlv2ifat4kehe4g0hkhg9139k@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:10 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<notpovss6atr7c60h0m4rogm7irem8u4qg@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
snip
Weatherly should do self-immolation in such a case.
He and god are special buddies, so he is always right.
"We should always be disposed to believe that that which
appears to us to be white is really black, if the
hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
Iggy was mistaken. It is only if Johnny so decides.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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17 Oct 2003 03:13:04 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:49 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<o0rtovgveapk51p3495jeqpucq63elripb@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:51:33 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:08:51 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<ii6rovg5ihlv2ifat4kehe4g0hkhg9139k@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:10 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:31:31 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<notpovss6atr7c60h0m4rogm7irem8u4qg@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
snip
Weatherly should do self-immolation in such a case.
He and god are special buddies, so he is always right.
"We should always be disposed to believe that that which
appears to us to be white is really black, if the
hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
Iggy was mistaken. It is only if Johnny so decides.
Ah, but Iggy's got a big stake in it as well as senority....
Iggy would be delighted to have Johnny go 'pop!'
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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18 Oct 2003 03:29:38 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:13:04 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:49 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
"We should always be disposed to believe that that which
appears to us to be white is really black, if the
hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
Iggy was mistaken. It is only if Johnny so decides.
Ah, but Iggy's got a big stake in it as well as senority....
Iggy would be delighted to have Johnny go 'pop!'
Only because he loves him.
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
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18 Oct 2003 10:22:30 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:29:38 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofremovethisbexar@yahoo.dk,>, Message ID:
<a0u1pvkj6ii5pnomef74u0lgeifueh62sh@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:13:04 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:10:49 +0200, Thomas P.
snip
"We should always be disposed to believe that that which
appears to us to be white is really black, if the
hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
Iggy was mistaken. It is only if Johnny so decides.
Ah, but Iggy's got a big stake in it as well as senority....
Iggy would be delighted to have Johnny go 'pop!'
Only because he loves him.
Yes, with so much compassion and empathy, too....
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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15 Oct 2003 03:26:39 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2003, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:7srkovss9kkvkteujfu3n7k9vgbmbq5j7k@4ax.com:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> thought hard and said:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
I'd trust him over you any day.
Who is this us you refer to?
Over the past 55 years or so that I've been in the church, I have
attended roughly a dozen churches, usually very large churches. In
MOST of those churches, Dr. C.S. Lewis' books were considered
"required reading" because all S. Baptist churches (when I was one)
emphasize missions. I was therefore trained to be a
missionary/preacher/evangelist from my earliest memories.
So I know THOUSANDS of conservative, Bible believing, "1st Century,
New Testament" born again Christians who think Dr. CS Lewis is
WONDERFUL!
Translation:
Out of all the people who completely agree with CS Lewis, I know
THOUSANDS who think he is WONDERFUL!
While I'm sure this is a very impressive claim, it would be slightly
more impressive if you could claim you know anyone who *disagrees* with
CS Lewis, yet still thinks he's "WONDERFUL".
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
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12 Oct 2003 10:06:11 AM |
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John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
"genius for Christian apologetics".
Is that anything like "jumbo shrimp" or "country music"?
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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12 Oct 2003 09:56:36 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2003 14:54:52 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You're entitled to your crackpot opinion. Many of us have found Dr.
Lewis to be a genius for Christian apologetics.
Who was this "brilliant" dr Lewis? Never heard about the geezer.
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