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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" |
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11 Sep 2006 12:48:56 PM |
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Seven proofs of God,s existence |
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 06:04:14 PM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in
news:1157996936.609265.172060@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR,
Special pleading and question begging. Two fallacies in four words. That
must be a record. Assertion rejected.
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER,
Assertion contradicted by empirical evidence.
3 Laws Demand a LAWGIVER,
The laws of physics are human descriptions of what nature does. Not
prescriptive. Assertion rejected.
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER,
The only evidence we have of anything being designed are the products of
beings on Earth. Nature does not look designed.
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
Prophecies written after the fact dont count. BTW let us know when
Nebuchadrezzar destroys Tyre.
6; ANSWERD PRAYER,
Disproven by scientific investigation.
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
What does you psychiatrist say about that.
Klazmon
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 09:18:00 PM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in
news:1157996936.609265.172060@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
***** demands a *****-giver. It seems that's your place in this world.
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 12:53:13 PM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:1157996936.609265.172060@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR,
No it actually doesn't.
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER,
No it doesn't.
3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER,
Who doesn't need to be god.
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER,
Sorry, but that's been long disproven.
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
So telephone psychics must be gods?
6; ANSWERD PRAYER,
How about all those unanswered prayers.
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
For who?
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 02:14:05 PM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:1157996936.609265.172060@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Go back to school and take a course in logic.
Your 'statement' are not 'proof', they are your opinions.
1. There is no evidence that the Universe was 'created'. there is evidence
that 'evolved'.
2. "Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER" No, life has evolved.
3. "Laws Demand a LAWGIVER" No, laws demand law writers. That is what
lawyers are trained for.
Laws are created by civilized 'man'.
4. "Design Demands a DESIGNER" Yes and man does 'designing'. There is no
evidence that the universe
was 'designed' but lots of evidence that it evolved.
5. "FULFILLED PROPHECY" There is NO evidence that the Universe has followed
any fulfilled prophecy.
There is plenty of evidence that it has 'evolved' to its present state.
6. "ANSWERD PRAYER" Who was around 13 BILLION years ago to pray for the
present Universe???
7. "A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!" If you look at the real Universe and its
history of wars, pestilence,
Earth Quakes, Tsunamis, Hurricanes, Floods, 12,000 diseases of man, and
the starving to death of two million
children each year you can only conclude that it 'exists' but doesn't
'work' very well.
You have not only NOT provided any proof of a gods existence you have
provided evidence that no god actually
exists or he is a mean cruel *****!
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 10:15:12 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR,
There is no creation - at least I don't believe in one.
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER,
No - only that tiny portion of life that has aquired a voice and the
capacity of abstract thought and even then only some of that tinty
portion - I am living, for example, and I am happy for the truth to be
whatever it is without making any such demands on what it must be.
3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER,
Not natural laws - they are not laws in that sense.
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER,
Sure - so if there is no design in nature...?
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
Ha Ha Ha Ha ha !
6; ANSWERD PRAYER,
What about the much more numerous unanswered prayers?
Are payers answered more often that predicted by statistical chance?
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
OK - godlessness works for me!
Mark.
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| User: "Sphere" |
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11 Sep 2006 09:26:44 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
I think I need only reply with my usual sig.
(However, I'm willing to use the intentional stance and grant
a designer, but evidence is that the designer is a complete
idiot -- or blind watchmaker.)
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No essence. No permanence. No perfection. Only action.
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 01:36:30 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
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| User: "Startlemyerfieldson" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 01:51:34 PM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157999790.203299.293720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your
posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
The closer they are to falling off the cliff, the harder they cling
to the thread of faith, until, finally, they take the thread with them
as they fall. Many times, they take other things as well, like their
children's arms, legs, lives, etc...
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| User: "RJ" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 01:47:42 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 09:18:48 PM |
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"RJ" <ryansoccerstar1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1158000462.586589.43730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED
PROPHECY, 6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your
posts to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't
really working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
So, you have some evidence that there s a god?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 03:23:27 PM |
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"RJ" <ryansoccerstar1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158000462.586589.43730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
Because your posts make you sound barely literate.
Is English not your first language? BTW, it's not just atheists that would
be taking you to task over your poor grammar. Many xians would as well.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 08:07:17 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2006 11:47:42 -0700, "RJ" <ryansoccerstar1@yahoo.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1158000462.586589.43730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
Communication of thoughts demands a minimum literacy level.
Those without this minimum, (and I place you firmly in that category),
are excluded from reasonable debate by that lack.
Where the lack is deliberate and willful neglect, it is bordering on
criminal to expect to be cut any slack.
I take it that your your profound illiteracy is not willful?
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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11 Sep 2006 09:25:49 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2006 11:47:42 -0700, "RJ" <ryansoccerstar1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
You spelled 'atheists' wrong. You didn't use punctuation, capitals
and it's 'something', not 'somthing'.
There is always a space between a comma and the next word. Also,
you will make better reading for us intellectuals if you did not use
the word, 'or' when a comma (followed by a space) will do.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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11 Sep 2006 02:42:38 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2006 11:47:42 -0700, "RJ" <ryansoccerstar1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
Why are you such a deliberately nasty liar, slandering us rather that
addressing what you are told?
The original poster's remarks were complete and utter ***** that
we're fed up with hearing day in, day out from you assholes.
If you actually had anything intelligent to say, you would get the
kind of responses you imagine you deserve.
As it is, they're still the responses you deserve.
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| User: "Louis" |
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11 Sep 2006 02:52:34 PM |
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ANSWERD PRAYERS OH LAWD
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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11 Sep 2006 03:16:08 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet RJ
(ryansoccerstar1@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED
PROPHECY, 6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your
posts to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't
really working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
Illiteracy is a sign of resistance to education, which is part of a
Christian's creedo. Besides, have you been around alt.atheism (a
strange place for a theist to hang) long enough to read all of
TRUECRISTIAN's posts?
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 01:56:06 PM |
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RJ wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Judging from the emotional roller coaster rides that pass as your posts
to alt.atheism, I'd say that the "WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS" isn't really
working out too well for you.
why is it that when aitheists dont have a decent response they pick
over someones english
or education,or personal opinions as if it had somthing to do with the
subject?
You don't seem to be aware of her posting history, do you? TRUECRISTIAN
alternates between writing hate filled vitriole directed at atheists
and asking for atheists to help her out with her suicidal tendencies
and her train wreck of a personal life. When we reply with sensible and
civilized advice for her to listen to her psychiatrist, she responds
with more hate filled death threats. TRUECRISTIAN is mentally ill, and
needs medication, which she seems to not want to take. Don't open your
mouth if you don't know what you're talking about.
And picking over your English IS a decent response. I've read your
posts, half of them are indecipherable. How do you expect someone to
communicate with you if you can't express yourself clearly?
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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11 Sep 2006 03:19:09 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Neil Kelsey
(neil_kelsey@hotmail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
You don't seem to be aware of her posting history, do you? TRUECRISTIAN
alternates between writing hate filled vitriole directed at atheists
and asking for atheists to help her out with her suicidal tendencies
and her train wreck of a personal life.
"She" also seems to shift between male and female.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 10:22:08 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/5c6e3e605c216ca1?dmode=source
Shut the ***** up, you shitstained bigot.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" |
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12 Sep 2006 06:57:51 AM |
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panamfloyd
Oversexed men the world over are breathing a collective sigh of relief
today upon hearing the news that the FDA has preliminarily approved the
use of panamfloyd photographs for combating hyper-erectilism.
The panamfloyd photographs will fall under the classification of drrugs
known as "tool softeners" and may be available as an over the counter
medication as early as this November
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
12 Sep 2006 09:12:40 AM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:1158062271.778278.278310@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
panamfloyd
Oversexed men the world over are breathing a collective sigh of relief
Why? Did you finally sew your legs closed?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "SmartyPants" |
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12 Sep 2006 07:45:05 AM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
A bunch of crazy stuff
Jeez, this has got to be a woman with as crazy and stupid as some of
this stuff is. Do you guys keep responding to her just to lead her on?
She is pretty funny but it is also possible that she is actually
unstable (and not just socially-needy). In which case it would be
better to ignore her. I can't really tell.
"This reinforces my theory that procreation should require a minimum IQ
score" - SmartyPants
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| User: "John Baker" |
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12 Sep 2006 10:13:28 PM |
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On 12 Sep 2006 05:45:05 -0700, "SmartyPants" <joshgoku@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
A bunch of crazy stuff
Jeez, this has got to be a woman with as crazy and stupid as some of
this stuff is. Do you guys keep responding to her just to lead her on?
She is pretty funny but it is also possible that she is actually
unstable (and not just socially-needy). In which case it would be
better to ignore her. I can't really tell.
He/she/it is a troll. Nothing it posts has any bearing on reality.
"This reinforces my theory that procreation should require a minimum IQ
score" - SmartyPants
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| User: "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" |
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13 Sep 2006 07:10:00 PM |
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Don't say anything you wouldn't say to your mother. (or mine!)
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| User: "John Baker" |
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17 Sep 2006 05:04:02 PM |
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On 13 Sep 2006 17:10:00 -0700, "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM>
wrote:
Don't say anything you wouldn't say to your mother. (or mine!)
Drop the act, Ethel Barrymore. I know you're a Loki, you know
it....and more importantly, everyone else knows it.
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| User: "" |
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12 Sep 2006 08:50:57 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
panamfloyd
Oversexed men the world over are breathing a collective sigh of relief
today upon hearing the news that the FDA has preliminarily approved the
use of panamfloyd photographs for combating hyper-erectilism.
The panamfloyd photographs will fall under the classification of drrugs
known as "tool softeners" and may be available as an over the counter
medication as early as this November
What the ***** are you talking about? Can you translate that into
English for me? I don't speak idiot.
PS: You *still* have to live alonside black people! Neener, neener,
neener! :P
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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11 Sep 2006 01:48:07 PM |
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I AMTRUEFUCKFACE:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER,
1. made one into four to try and intimidate. Last time I did this I was
about five years of age. Makes one wonder.
2. shitty logic. Not much of a surprise where a morontheist is involved.
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
Unfulfilled prophecy. Some coincidence. Inventing prophecies and their
fulfillments after the fact. Conveniently ignoring what was NOT fulfilled.
6; ANSWERD PRAYER,
Like the millions upon untold millions who prayed for peace during the cold
war.
Like the millions of CC inmates in hitler's realm of horror.
Like the countless soldiers in their first battle, feeling the hand of death
at their throat.
I trust none of them ever prayed, eh?
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
If you like being a psychiatric wreck, sure.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Seven DEBUNKED proofs of God,s existence |
12 Sep 2006 07:03:32 PM |
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In article <1157996936.609265.172060@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM says...
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR,
And a creator demands something external to himself in which to exist
which is necessarily prior to or coeval with himself. That is, if god
exists, then he exists in some realm, physical or otherwise. He could
not have created this realm because he could not exist before there was
some realm in which to exist. Therefore, he did not create the realm of
his own existence, i.e. heaven. Therefore the bible tells a lie right
in Genesis 1:1 when it says, "In the beginning God created the heavens
and the Earth." Strike 1.
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER
Then god's life demanded a life-giver other than himself, contradicting
the notion that god is eternal. Strike 2.
3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER
Ever heard of the "law of the jungle", dumbass. Do you really think that
animals get together in a congress and vote, you fucking moron! Strike
3. You're outta here.
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER
Wrong. Random things have a design by default as well. Strike 4. I
said you're fucking out.
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY
At far less than the rate of random chance. Strike 5. Somebody get the
hook!
6; ANSWERD PRAYER
The cemetaries say otherwise. Strike 6. Get the ***** the field,
*****.
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
A cockroach has a way of life that works as well and it's probably
comparable to all the cesspool of xianity. Strike 7. You're way out,
you cheating, motherfucking christer bozo.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 03:13:28 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2006 10:48:56 -0700, "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM>
wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR
Who created the creator? And if the creator doesn't need a creator,
why does anything else?
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER
No, it doesn't.
3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER
Human "laws" demand a lawgiver. "Laws" of nature aren't "laws" in the
legal sense, they're simply descriptions of how things work.
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER
See Dawkins' "The Blind Watchmaker" for a refutation of this whole
area.
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY
So does that mean that the failed prophecies in the Bible invalidate
it?
6; ANSWERD PRAYER
And unanswered prayers mean there's no God?
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
I'm doing just fine without any "God", again, does that confirm
atheism?
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 05:18:14 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2006 10:48:56 -0700, "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM>
wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR, 2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER, 3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER, 4 Design Demands a DESIGNER, 5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
6; ANSWERD PRAYER, 7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
And abject stupidity demands uproarious laughter. So....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Idiot.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 02:03:46 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet I AMTRUECRISTIAN (XL5
@OPERAMAIL.COM) made the light shine upon us with this:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR,
Inanimate objects do not make demands.
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER,
Inanimate objects do not make demands.
3 Laws Demand a LAWGIVER,
Inanimate objects do not make demands.
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER,
Inanimate objects do not make demands.
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
One fiction book fulfills the prophesy of another? That's hilarious.
6; ANSWERD PRAYER,
Give me a break. Prayer works with the same consistency as a lucky
rabbit's foot.
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Hahahahahaha, what a moron.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: Re: Seven proofs of God,s existence |
11 Sep 2006 06:25:31 PM |
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Self confessed nutcase I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
1 Creation Demands a CREATOR,
Nope.
2 Life Demands a LIFE-GIVER,
Nope
3 Laws
Demand a LAWGIVER,
Nope
4 Design Demands a DESIGNER,
Nope
5 FULFILLED PROPHECY,
Nope
6; ANSWERD PRAYER,
Nope
7; A WAY OF LIFE THAT WORKS!
Manifestly not
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