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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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01 Mar 2005 12:57:42 AM |
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Sex And The Disgruntled Teen |
From The San Francisco Gate, 2/25/05:
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Sex And The Disgruntled Teen
More proof that *not* having sex is sad and dangerous -- even in
Texas.
What is wrong with us?
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Abstinence is a gnarled wart on the big toe of hot wet life.
This much we know.
Or, rather, more specifically, those silly little abstinence programs
wrought by the neocon Right and jammed uncomfortably into America's
increasingly crumbling and confused public schools and all of which
aim to force-feed teens bogus evidence that sex is deadly and icky and
fraught and poisonous and should be avoided completely if not somehow
surgically eradicated,
and if you really must indulge in things prurient and sticky then
please go home and whip out your Bible and be sure to avoid your dad's
Hustler or the shower massager you little demonic heathen *****.
Such programs are bogus and false and misleading and harmful and
stupid and wrong.
In a nutshell.
Did you see this story? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6894568
It's the latest finding, the outcome of the most recent and quite
thorough nonpartisan study, from Texas A&M no less, surveying teens in
29 Texas schools and all proving once again that these insidious and
dangerous programs have absolutely zero effect on curbing teen sexual
appetites and activity, and, if anything, actually induce teens to
have more sex.
It's an outcome the likes of which we have all seen a thousand times
before and for which we all can already pre-emptively guess the
results, and that makes any moderately enlightened or sexually aware
or even slightly educated human anywhere on the planet only say, well,
duh.
After all, hormones have always trumped uptight conservative dogma.
Sex and testosterone and raw human heat always laugh in the gnarled
face of any oppressive and misdirected authority that attempts to curb
it or reject it or shut it all down.
Just ask all those gay priests in the seminary, shuffling between beds
every night, just after lights-out.
Shhh.
Of course teens are having sex anyway, in straight-up defiance of what
they sense is pure governmental ignorance and outright lie.
But the nasty catch is, as a direct result of these insidious programs
-- programs that cannot, for example, contain any information about
birth control or sensual awareness or moist philosophies of pleasure
-- they're just doing it badly.
Which is to say, you want to virtually guarantee more unsafe sex and
increased rates of teen pregnancy and more disrespect for the flesh
and a tragic ignorance of all things sensual and delicious and naked
in the world?
You want more sullen teens and violent youth culture and a virulent
50-percent divorce rate among people who have no idea what good sex is
really all about?
Keep advocating those abstinence programs, senator.
After all, don't we all know, you might reasonably ask, that when you
stab at the blood-rich heart of youthful prurience and aim your
uptight dogmas in the general direction of all those white-hot urges
currently flooding through just about any human body like Coors
through Jenna Bush,
you merely create a negative charge,
a deep resentment, all coupled with general bitter mistrust of
authority and the urge to smack your establishment misinformers (i.e.;
parents governments teachers bosses seething joyless Christian gods)
upside the head with the pig iron of their own sad ignorance?
Really, don't we know this?
I mean (you might further inquire, your bones of indignation now
aflame), have we learned nothing from repressive third world regimes
and dictators and fundamentalists and the Catholic Church?
Have we gleaned no lesson from those who would deign to shove happily
rigid doctrines down the throats of the masses only to see that
oppression regurgitate as war and discord and a black cloud of
joylessness and spiritual poverty and degrading sacklike clothing?
Look.
We all know that telling teens to abstain from sex is like telling
tequila to abstain from the lime.
Telling teens to repress their burgeoning beautiful natural chemical
lustful cosmic urges that have been only recently delivered to them on
the wings of salacious and well-lubed angels is like telling a fervent
piano devotee that Mozart is a hack.
People who advocate such nastiness should be ashamed.
Ashamed and humiliated and then flogged with the dead fish of their
own tepid and miserable sex lives.
Just an opinion.
So then why the hell do we do it?
Why do abstinence programs exist?
Why does BushCo (and why do even some irritating Dems) insist on
wasting millions of dollars pushing such worthless and dangerous
curricula through our schools, programs that limit the minds of our
youth and taint their bodily awareness and work about as well as the
war on drugs?
Don't you already know the answer?
One reason and one reason only:
the programs are a flaccid bone thrown to the quivering dogs of the
Midwestern born-agains, that rather desperate and deeply unhappy sect
of overly religious voters whose fear and dread and homophobia helped
Bush con his way into a second term and who have somehow, some way
swiped the reins and who have an unexpected choke hold on the national
agenda.
Period.
And oh my great goddess would it not just be ***** shockingly
fabulous if we could somehow be bold and different?
If we could, for example and across all of America's public schools,
teach the absolute opposite of abstinence?
What a utopia we could envision.
What a radical and gorgeous and messy and funky and delirious new
world we could perhaps slowly, slyly nudge into being.
Don't you think?
Which is to say, what if our schools,
from kindergarten on,
from our earliest textbooks and curricula and chalkboard diagrams,
contained unashamed and unembarrassed and all-natural and healthily
playful and (as time and age permitted) deeply informative and honest
and raw and real information about human sexuality,
all woven naturally into the curriculum much like math and reading and
biology and revisionist world history and all those lies about World
War II and Vietnam and Communism and religion?
I mean, can you imagine?
And what if said information was designed to be all about natural,
respectful, consensual sexuality, as honest and fleshy and complicated
and potentially harmful but as ultimately gorgeous and peculiar and
raw as human sexuality is so stickily wont to be?
Would that not, as I truly believe it would, be a major step toward
curing many of the ailments plaguing our youth, and, by extension, our
culture?
In other words, would a relaxed, sex-positive education planted like a
hot seed from a very early age not affect a gradual and rather
luscious sea change in the overall sexual attitudes of the culture,
much the way you can slowly train the ear to hear nuances in music in
or the eye to see the divine in nature the tongue to taste God in a
bottle of Lagavulin 16?
You're ***** right it would.
Which is, of course, exactly why the Right can't have it.
And why the culture seems so many light-years away from allowing such
a mentality to invade our children and taint their precious minds with
thoughts of what it means to truly respect the luminous flesh of the
body and take all responsibility for its machinations and gyrations
and quivering needs.
We simply don't believe we are allowed to enjoy life in such a way.
We simply are not here to dig deep into what it means to be human,
fleshed, meaty and tremulous and whole.
This is the prevalent dogma of our current leadership, the unhappy
worldview of the currently dominant quasi-religious Right, the
violently antihuman ethos of our time.
The body is a disgusting shameful vehicle and the Earth is an
exploitable sandbox to be abused at will and life is merely miserable
purgatory where you scratch and claw for money and power and survival
while you eagerly await ... what was it again?
Oh right.
The Second Coming.
Charming.
And right now, sadly, a belief that's all too prevalent.
So on they go, these silly programs, sucking millions of tax dollars
($160 million next year alone, despite all the studies) all wasted on
teachings that are a running joke to sentient adults and a degrading
slap at our youth and a giant middle finger to what the sexual human
experience is all about.
Good thing teens see right through it all and have more sex anyway.
But how very sad that we simply refuse, absolutely refuse, to open
wide the thighs of education to teach them how to do it right, full of
juicy respect, reverence, delight and true understanding.
Oh, what a world we could make.
Don't you think?
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| User: "JohnN" |
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01 Mar 2005 02:39:10 PM |
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So abstinence class is a good place to pickup chicks?
JohnNN
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:08:35 AM |
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"JohnN" <jnorris53@hotmail.com> wrote:
So abstinence class is a good place to pickup chicks?
And screw them, yes.
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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02 Mar 2005 11:34:43 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:08:35 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
"JohnN" <jnorris53@hotmail.com> wrote:
So abstinence class is a good place to pickup chicks?
And screw them, yes.
If I were into young girls and women, I would move to Texas: Bush2
has paved the way for pedophiles.
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| User: "The Sophist" |
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01 Mar 2005 07:52:39 PM |
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JohnN wrote:
So abstinence class is a good place to pickup chicks?
JohnNN
It may not be ideal. Seems those subjected to abstinence education are
more likely to pick up nasty diseases, so unless you're the first to get
to a particular chick it could be hazardous to your health.
--
Aaron Boyden
The main division between the so-called Continental and Analytic
traditions has been disputes over whether the task of being unclear
should be carried out in natural language or in a formal system.
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| User: "" |
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01 Mar 2005 07:59:01 PM |
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Faggots like Frederick only prove that the Gay/Lesbian movement is not
about homosexuality, it's about DEBASEMENT OF THE HETEROSEXUAL ACT,
UPON WHICH ALL CIVILIZATION IS BUILT.
They are the force of pure, concentrated Chaos and evil. They seek
to destroy and annihilate the binds of marriage. Children who have
parents who get divorced are very, very hurt by this. When you see
these troubled youth, just remember, their parents got divorced because
they pursued their own selfish-hedonistic desires at the cost of their
child's mental health.
Faggots are the purest evil in hell. Satan is a raping *****.
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| User: "Jez" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:09:11 AM |
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wrote:
Faggots are the purest evil in hell.
Nope, faggots are a damn fine food.
http://www.hub-uk.com/tallyrecip01/recipe0010.htm
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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| User: "JohnN" |
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08 Mar 2005 01:32:48 PM |
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Jez wrote:
testingtesting24@aol.com wrote:
Faggots are the purest evil in hell.
Nope, faggots are a damn fine food.
http://www.hub-uk.com/tallyrecip01/recipe0010.htm
Yes, its heaven, liver and onions.
JohnNN
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| User: "" |
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02 Mar 2005 11:02:45 AM |
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wrote:
Faggots like Frederick only prove that the Gay/Lesbian movement is
not
about homosexuality, it's about DEBASEMENT OF THE HETEROSEXUAL ACT,
UPON WHICH ALL CIVILIZATION IS BUILT.
Civilization is built upon screwing? I would have thought,
organization, a surplus of food that allows specialists; standing
armies, the resulting need for record-keeping, the invention of money,
more knowledge accumulating than one person can learn... that sort of
thing. And here all along it's been built upon sex. Live and learn.
They are the force of pure, concentrated Chaos and evil.
[...]
Not, say, that good Lutheran leader accused of ten torture muders in
Kansas.
They seek
to destroy and annihilate the binds of marriage.
Just the other day the two fellas down the street from us knocked on
our door and chanted "We love each other! Get divorced!" Then they
threw eggs at our cat and ran away. Pure evil.
Children who have
parents who get divorced are very, very hurt by this.
You didn't read the article, did you? Or any other material on these
subjects. Atheists have a lower divorce rate than fundamentalist
Christians, on the average. We don't know about gays *because *you
*won't *let *them *marry.
Kids who go thru these abstinence-only programs have more sex, get
pregnant more often, and get divorced more often.
When you see
these troubled youth, just remember, their parents got divorced
because
they pursued their own selfish-hedonistic desires at the cost of
their
child's mental health.
No, it's largely because their parents have no insight into their own
behavior, have no self-control ("The Devil made me do it! Help me
Jesus!)", and often forced into marriage before they were ready because
the girl got pregnant.
Faggots are the purest evil in hell. Satan is a raping *****.
Actually, I rather picture Hell as one eternal session in a Baptist
Church. I thought it was Hell as a kid, and that was when I was a
believer.
Sounds like you already live in Hell. After all, if Heaven is in your
mind (Luke 17:20,21), then I suppose Hell would be also.
Kermit
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:09:46 AM |
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wrote:
Faggots like Frederick only prove that the Gay/Lesbian movement is not
about homosexuality, it's about DEBASEMENT OF THE HETEROSEXUAL ACT,
UPON WHICH ALL CIVILIZATION IS BUILT.
This is true.
They are the force of pure, concentrated Chaos and evil. They seek
to destroy and annihilate the binds of marriage. Children who have
parents who get divorced are very, very hurt by this. When you see
these troubled youth, just remember, their parents got divorced because
they pursued their own selfish-hedonistic desires at the cost of their
child's mental health.
Well that and the pay is pretty good.
Faggots are the purest evil in hell. Satan is a raping *****.
We can hope, yeah.
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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02 Mar 2005 11:34:39 AM |
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On 1 Mar 2005 17:59:01 -0800, wrote:
Faggots like Frederick only prove that the Gay/Lesbian movement is not
about homosexuality, it's about DEBASEMENT OF THE HETEROSEXUAL ACT,
UPON WHICH ALL CIVILIZATION IS BUILT.
It just turns you on to believe "Frederick" is homosexual,
eh?Gives you a tiny little woody.
Please take your homosexual fantasy life elsewhere.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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01 Mar 2005 11:35:55 PM |
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in article 1109728741.262732.172380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com,
at wrote on 3/1/05 8:59
PM:
Faggots like Frederick only prove that the Gay/Lesbian movement is not
about homosexuality, it's about DEBASEMENT OF THE HETEROSEXUAL ACT,
UPON WHICH ALL CIVILIZATION IS BUILT.
They are the force of pure, concentrated Chaos and evil. They seek
to destroy and annihilate the binds of marriage. Children who have
parents who get divorced are very, very hurt by this. When you see
these troubled youth, just remember, their parents got divorced because
they pursued their own selfish-hedonistic desires at the cost of their
child's mental health.
Faggots are the purest evil in hell. Satan is a raping *****.
Sounds like your parents didn't treat you like the Little
Prince...and some dumb church was able to exploit that.
Paul
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| User: "" |
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01 Mar 2005 07:54:18 PM |
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yeah, just look at Frederick, he didn't practice abstinence and he grew
up to be a fine, well adjusted ***** with aids.
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