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29 Sep 2003 05:21:31 PM |
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Sex Before Marriage a Crime? |
JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
Abdul Gani Abdullah, director general of legislation at the ministry, said
the draft revisions would also ban witchcraft.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&ncid=583&e=3&u=/nm/20030929/od_nm/life_indonesia_sex_dc
Muslim leaders, including experts in Islamic Sharia law, had been consulted
over the draft revisions, he added.
But certain criteria would need to be met before a crime was committed under
the revisions, he said.
"If society chooses not to do anything and has no objection to any
cohabitation for example, then it is not a crime," Abdullah said by
telephone, adding the idea was that people would need to lodge complaints
before authorities reacted.
Details of proposed punishments were not immediately available. When
completed, the draft will be submitted to parliament for debate, although
bills may often languish there.
Indonesians have long followed a moderate version of Islam, although an
emphasis on Muslim practices and identity with Islamic traditions has
gathered pace in recent years.
Beliefs in witchcraft and mysticism are still widespread, especially on the
main island of Java. And many Indonesians are also generally relaxed about
homosexuality.
Abdullah said the revisions were part of efforts to revise sections of the
criminal code still largely based on laws of former colonial ruler the
Netherlands.
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Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better
about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all ***** about
something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he
doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so
long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and help just so that
he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of
our tears. You see, it's our tears that give God his great power.
aa #2133
apatriot #19
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30 Sep 2003 12:41:51 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blab9g$90fhq$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...
JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many customers as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a big
business of religion.Theocracy knows that young people want to have sex, and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby. And the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief, when in
reality its a con game.
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| User: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis" |
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30 Sep 2003 04:06:02 AM |
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"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation,
is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many customers
as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future
customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a big
business of religion.Theocracy knows that young people want to have sex,
and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby. And
the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because
there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
Really? Sex always translates to babies, unless it's with a prostitute?!
What planet does that happen on again?
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief, when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor grasp of it?
-n
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| User: "rita" |
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30 Sep 2003 12:53:15 PM |
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim
nation,
is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many customers
as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future
customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a big
business of religion.Theocracy knows that young people want to have sex,
and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby. And
the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because
there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
Really? Sex always translates to babies, unless it's with a
prostitute?!
What planet does that happen on again?
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Indeed. And why would homosexual inclinations prevent people from
having babies or from supporting them and raising them if they do?? You
don't need to go all the way to Indonesia to find this false belief, right
here in the U.S. of A. there are fundies who believe that giving basic civil
rights to gays is somehow "anti-family". As though gays have no families.
As though being gay prevents non-gays from being hetero or from having
whatever nuclear family arrangements they desire.
~Rita
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| User: "Crazyalec" |
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30 Sep 2003 04:55:34 AM |
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
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"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim
nation,
is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many customers
as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future
customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a big
business of religion.Theocracy knows that young people want to have sex,
and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby. And
the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because
there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
Really? Sex always translates to babies, unless it's with a
prostitute?!
Not just prostitute. Homosexuality, birth control, abortion.
What planet does that happen on again?
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief, when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor grasp of
it?
Thats because you are stupid
-n
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| User: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis" |
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30 Sep 2003 10:18:38 AM |
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"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
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JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim
nation,
is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many
customers
as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future
customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want
a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a
big
business of religion.Theocracy knows that young people want to have
sex,
and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby.
And
the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because
there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
Really? Sex always translates to babies, unless it's with a
prostitute?!
Not just prostitute. Homosexuality, birth control, abortion.
So, you're saying that heterosexual intercouse that does not involve
prostitution, birth control or abortion always translates into babies? Are
you high?
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English
becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief,
when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor grasp of
it?
Thats because you are stupid
I'm stupid because you have a poor grasp of the English language? Gee,
your logic skills don't seem to be much better than your English skills.
-n
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| User: "Crazyalec" |
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| Title: Re: Sex Before Marriage a Crime? |
30 Sep 2003 03:13:28 PM |
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
news:h9heb.8871$Rd4.535@fed1read07...
So, you're saying that heterosexual intercouse that does not involve
prostitution, birth control or abortion always translates into babies? Are
you high?
Hmmm....when a sperm meets the egg that usually leads to a pregnancy.
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English
becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief,
when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor grasp
of
it?
Thats because you are stupid
I'm stupid because you have a poor grasp of the English language? Gee,
your logic skills don't seem to be much better than your English skills.
-n
No, you are stupid because you've been brainwashed into believing that
religion is a belief.
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| User: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis" |
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30 Sep 2003 08:54:04 PM |
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"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Itleb.470049$Oz4.279667@rwcrnsc54...
"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
news:h9heb.8871$Rd4.535@fed1read07...
So, you're saying that heterosexual intercouse that does not involve
prostitution, birth control or abortion always translates into babies?
Are
you high?
Hmmm....when a sperm meets the egg that usually leads to a pregnancy.
It may surprise you to know that it is possible to have sex, and avoid
impregnation.
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English
becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a
belief,
when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor grasp
of
it?
Thats because you are stupid
I'm stupid because you have a poor grasp of the English language?
Gee,
your logic skills don't seem to be much better than your English skills.
-n
No, you are stupid because you've been brainwashed into believing that
religion is a belief.
Religion and belief are two very different things. The problem is that
you cannot see that difference. Someone can believe in God without being
religious.
-n
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| User: "Crazyalec" |
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| Title: Re: Sex Before Marriage a Crime? |
30 Sep 2003 10:03:50 PM |
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
news:0tqeb.8965$Rd4.253@fed1read07...
It may surprise you to know that it is possible to have sex, and avoid
impregnation.
That would be birth control, and thats why religion is against it. If
everybody using birth control, who's gonna pay?
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English
becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a
belief,
when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor
grasp
of
it?
Thats because you are stupid
I'm stupid because you have a poor grasp of the English language?
Gee,
your logic skills don't seem to be much better than your English
skills.
-n
No, you are stupid because you've been brainwashed into believing that
religion is a belief.
Religion and belief are two very different things. The problem is that
you cannot see that difference. Someone can believe in God without being
religious.
That would be spirituality, like Kaballa, yoga, monks and some others.
Religion is an exploitation of spirituality for money and power.
-n
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| User: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis" |
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30 Sep 2003 10:35:43 PM |
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"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
news:0tqeb.8965$Rd4.253@fed1read07...
It may surprise you to know that it is possible to have sex, and
avoid
impregnation.
That would be birth control, and thats why religion is against it. If
everybody using birth control, who's gonna pay?
So, having sex with a woman, at a time when she's not ovulating is
"birth control?"
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into
English
becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a
belief,
when
in
reality its a con game.
How can you translate to English when you have such a poor
grasp
of
it?
Thats because you are stupid
I'm stupid because you have a poor grasp of the English
language?
Gee,
your logic skills don't seem to be much better than your English
skills.
-n
No, you are stupid because you've been brainwashed into believing that
religion is a belief.
Religion and belief are two very different things. The problem is
that
you cannot see that difference. Someone can believe in God without being
religious.
That would be spirituality, like Kaballa, yoga, monks and some others.
No. You assert that would be spirituality. You arbitary redefinitions of
words carry little weight Alec.
Religion is an exploitation of spirituality for money and power.
Maybe it is. So what?
-n
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Sex Before Marriage a Crime? |
01 Oct 2003 08:13:34 AM |
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" wrote:
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
news:0tqeb.8965$Rd4.253@fed1read07...
It may surprise you to know that it is possible to have sex, and
avoid
impregnation.
That would be birth control, and thats why religion is against it. If
everybody using birth control, who's gonna pay?
So, having sex with a woman, at a time when she's not ovulating is
"birth control?"
It is if you are Roman Catholic.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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| User: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis" |
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01 Oct 2003 08:34:59 AM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" wrote:
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message
news:0tqeb.8965$Rd4.253@fed1read07...
It may surprise you to know that it is possible to have sex, and
avoid
impregnation.
That would be birth control, and thats why religion is against it. If
everybody using birth control, who's gonna pay?
So, having sex with a woman, at a time when she's not ovulating is
"birth control?"
It is if you are Roman Catholic.
Of course. I should have connected the dots. Alec is opposed to anything
Catholic. Therefore, everything has to be viewed from the catholic side or
with a catholic spin.
-n
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| User: "towelie" |
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30 Sep 2003 01:34:17 PM |
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Nikolaos D. Bougalis wrote:
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Really? Sex always translates to babies, unless it's with a
prostitute?!
Not just prostitute. Homosexuality, birth control, abortion.
So, you're saying that heterosexual intercouse that does not
involve prostitution, birth control or abortion always translates
into babies? Are you high?
He doesn't know any better, since he's never been within ten feet of a woman
and not gotten slapped.
I'm stupid because you have a poor grasp of the English language?
Gee, your logic skills don't seem to be much better than your English
skills.
He's been in my killfile for a long time, and there he shall stay.
--
Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel
better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all *****
about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over
it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter
to him, so long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and
help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can
drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears that give
God his great power.
aa #2133
apatriot #19
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| User: "Kermit" |
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30 Sep 2003 06:01:18 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blab9g$90fhq$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...
JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many customers as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a big
business of religion.
Do you really mean this? Premarital sex is a relgious plot? How are
they exploiting us.
Theocracy knows that young people want to have sex, and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby. And the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
I think this is correct. Powerful people in religion want more babies
from their followers. But this is not the whole story. Among other
things, this is also a way to control the women.
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief, when in
reality its a con game.
How can a con game work if the mark does not believe he will benifit?
Are you seriously suggesting that most theists do not believe their
religion?
--- Kermit
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| User: "Crazyalec" |
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30 Sep 2003 06:22:32 PM |
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"Kermit" <freehand_THX1138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blab9g$90fhq$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...
JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim
nation, is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
You can understand where this nonsence is coming from, if you perceive
religion as a business, based on collecting money from as many customers
as
possible. Customers grow up from babies. More babies...more future
customers
and soldiers. But the system doesn't want to pay for babies.They want a
family to support and raise them.
Sex before marriage is simply exploitation of a human sexuality by a big
business of religion.
Do you really mean this? Premarital sex is a relgious plot? How are
they exploiting us.
I meant "No sex before marriage" is an exploitation of a human sexuality.
Theocracy knows that young people want to have sex, and
since there is no birth control or abortion, there is always a baby. And
the
reason theocracy is against homosexuality and prostitution, is because
there
is sex, and no baby. Not good for a business of religion.
I think this is correct. Powerful people in religion want more babies
from their followers
Its not what "people want".Its how the business stays in business. Back in
times of constant wars more soldiers meant stronger army.
Islam is more dangerous than Catholics is because its the only religion that
has a monopoly in brainwash, thus making 99% of arabs as billion of loyal
soldiers.
.. But this is not the whole story. Among other
things, this is also a way to control the women.
In muslim world women is a baby making machine. Xerox those future customers
and soldiers. Disposable suicide bombers
Crazyalec 101 teaches people how translate religion into English becuase
people are (generally) stupid, and think that religion is a belief, when
in
reality its a con game.
How can a con game work if the mark does not believe he will benifit?
Havn't you heard of place in heaven with 72 virgins?
Are you seriously suggesting that most theists do not believe their
religion?
Do you believe that you need a new helmet, Kermit?
--- Kermit
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30 Sep 2003 09:26:34 AM |
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towelie wrote:
JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, is
drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living together
outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
Abdul Gani Abdullah, director general of legislation at the ministry, said
the draft revisions would also ban witchcraft.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&ncid=583&e=3&u=/nm/20030929/od_nm/life_indonesia_sex_dc
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Indonesians have long followed a moderate version of Islam, although an
emphasis on Muslim practices and identity with Islamic traditions has
gathered pace in recent years.
I have been reading about the spread of Wahhabism, the extremist Islam that is the state religion of Saudi
Arabia and the root philosophy behind Hamas, al-Qaida most other Muslim extremist groups. The modern rise of
Islamic fundamentalism, in Indonesia and other largely Muslim countries, is a direct result of Saudi government
sponsored missionaries. The stated goal of Wahhabism is to destroy all other forms of Islam and to "unite" the
world in to a planetwide Wahhabi theocracy.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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towelie wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's most populous
Muslim nation, is
<br>drafting regulations that could outlaw sex before marriage, living
together
<br>outside wedlock and homosexuality, an official said on Monday.
<p>Abdul Gani Abdullah, director general of legislation at the ministry,
said
<br>the draft revisions would also ban witchcraft.
<p><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&ncid=583&e=3&u=/nm/20030929/od_nm/life_indonesia_sex_dc">http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&ncid=583&e=3&u=/nm/20030929/od_nm/life_indonesia_sex_dc</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Indonesians have long followed a moderate version
of Islam, although an
<br>emphasis on Muslim practices and identity with Islamic traditions has
<br>gathered pace in recent years.</blockquote>
I have been reading about the spread of Wahhabism, the extremist Islam
that is the state religion of Saudi Arabia and the root philosophy behind
Hamas, al-Qaida most other Muslim extremist groups. The modern rise of
Islamic fundamentalism, in Indonesia and other largely Muslim countries,
is a direct result of Saudi government sponsored missionaries. The stated
goal of Wahhabism is to destroy all other forms of Islam and to "unite"
the world in to a planetwide Wahhabi theocracy.
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<br>Gregory Gadow
<br>techbear@serv.net
<br><A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~techbear">http://www.serv.net/~techbear</A>
<p>Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
<br>that, without government endorsement of your
<br>religion, all hell will break loose?
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30 Sep 2003 01:35:50 PM |
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Gregory Gadow wrote:
I have been reading about the spread of Wahhabism, the extremist
Islam that is the state religion of Saudi Arabia and the root
philosophy behind Hamas, al-Qaida most other Muslim extremist groups.
The modern rise of Islamic fundamentalism, in Indonesia and other
largely Muslim countries, is a direct result of Saudi government
sponsored missionaries. The stated goal of Wahhabism is to destroy
all other forms of Islam and to "unite" the world in to a planetwide
Wahhabi theocracy.
And who is the biggest supporter of the Saudi government?
The US has brought all this on itself.
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Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel
better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all *****
about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over
it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter
to him, so long as it makes us sad...God gives us life and love and
help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can
drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears that give
God his great power.
aa #2133
apatriot #19
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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30 Sep 2003 02:19:36 PM |
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towelie wrote:
Gregory Gadow wrote:
I have been reading about the spread of Wahhabism, the extremist
Islam that is the state religion of Saudi Arabia and the root
philosophy behind Hamas, al-Qaida most other Muslim extremist groups.
The modern rise of Islamic fundamentalism, in Indonesia and other
largely Muslim countries, is a direct result of Saudi government
sponsored missionaries. The stated goal of Wahhabism is to destroy
all other forms of Islam and to "unite" the world in to a planetwide
Wahhabi theocracy.
And who is the biggest supporter of the Saudi government?
The US has brought all this on itself.
Sadly, that seems to be the case.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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