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11 Jun 2005 10:24:17 PM |
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Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
LONDON, June 10, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A newly released sex
education manual for children aged 13 to 16, put out by the UK's FPA
(Family Planning Association), is being harshly criticized by
pro-family groups as being very inappropriate for children.
The booklet includes information on how to perform various sexual acts
including anal and oral sex, and includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
The booklet encourages children to explore their homosexual
attractions, and contains details on masturbation. The manual also
details where a child could get abortifacients like the morning-after
and birth control pills without their parents knowledge or consent.
Family and Youth Concern Director Norman Wells said, "Publications
like this one serve only to normalise sexual activity among young
people under the age of consent," according to a scotsman.com report.
Sexual intercourse is legal between consenting persons who are 16 years
old in England and 17 in Scotland. "The whole tone of the leaflet
cheapens sex rather than attempting to preserve its special character
as an expression of the total self-giving between a husband and wife in
the context of a lifelong committed marriage," Wells added.
Wells, reiterating the deeply-held traditional values of most Britons,
emphasized, "If we really want what is best for young people, we need
to tell them the whole truth - that saving sex for marriage is a
positive choice that brings with it a host of physical, emotional and
psychological benefits, and it is the only sure way of protection
against sexually transmitted infections."
Wells said the value of sex-ed for children is questionable, when you
look at the failure rate of such an approach - highlighted by UK
having Europe's highest teen pregnancy rate, along with a
skyrocketing incidence of sexually transmitted disease. "Rather than
persisting with the same old, tired, fatalistic approach that has
failed so dismally, we need to start treating young people with more
respect and give them a positive and much more radical message," he
said.
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 03:01:09 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:08:07 -0700, Bonnie B. <456eerts@emas.org>
wrote:
Bonnie *****
aka DOG FUCKER
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| User: "Bonnie B." |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 04:21:29 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:01:09 GMT, Bill Taylor wrote:
I am an AKA DOG FUCKER
William R. Taylor
c/o Aunt Mom's basement
5150 Balboa Dr
NEW BERLIN, WI 53151
414-425-3429
http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolios/w/wilhelm/
Happy FOAD --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 11:00:37 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:37:05 -0700, Bonnie B. <456eerts@emas.org>
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:04:39 GMT, Bill Taylor wrote:
I am an AKA CANINE FORNICATOR
No offense to my Aunt Mom.
William R. Taylor
5150 Balboa Dr
NEW BERLIN, WI 53151
414-425-3429
http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolios/w/wilhelm/
Happy FOAD --
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go, Bonnie. :D
Bonnie *****
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Bonnie B." |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 11:35:13 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:00:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:37:05 -0700, Bonnie B. <456eerts@emas.org>
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:04:39 GMT, Bill Taylor wrote:
I am an AKA CANINE FORNICATOR
No offense to my Aunt Mom.
William R. Taylor
5150 Balboa Dr
NEW BERLIN, WI 53151
414-425-3429
http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolios/w/wilhelm/
Happy FOAD --
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go, Bonnie. :D
Usually, he fucks right off when his address, #, and link start
showing up, attributed to him.
Maybe he's off his meds again.
Or maybe Aunt Mom's having vaginoplasty for her widdle sweetums.
Ein Prosit der GemŸtlichkeit --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
16 Jun 2005 01:55:47 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:13 -0700, Bonnie B. <456eerts@emas.org>
wrote:
Bonnie *****
aka DOG FUCKER
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| User: "Bonnie B." |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
16 Jun 2005 02:04:52 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:55:47 GMT, wrote:
I am an AKA DOG FUCKER
To watch me, call:
414-425-3429
http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolios/w/wilhelm/
Happy FOAD --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "Bonnie B." |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
16 Jun 2005 02:09:29 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:55:47 GMT, wrote:
I am an AKA DOG FUCKER
To watch me, call:
414-425-3429
http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolios/w/wilhelm/
Happy FOAD --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 10:58:28 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:28:27 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:87ekb7v3tz.fsf@drizzle.com...
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> writes:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
Goodness, imagine what kind of up-in-arms there would be if
these people found a copy of the 1970's version, "Will I Like It?",
which included much of the same material.
Elf
I wonder if any else realises that part of the reason that numbers have
increased is because they're being reported more......and of course unwed
mothers don't get sent off to "homes"
Don't forget the Christian hatred of education and the active and
unrepentant bearing of false witness.
Kathryn
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 10:57:26 PM |
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On 12 Jun 2005 11:15:52 -0700, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com>
wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> writes:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
Goodness, imagine what kind of up-in-arms there would be if
these people found a copy of the 1970's version, "Will I Like It?",
which included much of the same material.
Goodness, imagine what kind of up-in-arms there would be if 'God' told
his ***** suckers to be; honest, courteous, empathic, compassionate,
and good stewards towards the planet and to treasure education.
Oh GEE 'he' did! And Christians, with few exceptions, ignore the
despot who will lovingly torture them for eternity.
Elf
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
16 Jun 2005 12:40:47 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:57:26 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 12 Jun 2005 11:15:52 -0700, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com>
wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> writes:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
Goodness, imagine what kind of up-in-arms there would be if
these people found a copy of the 1970's version, "Will I Like It?",
which included much of the same material.
Goodness, imagine what kind of up-in-arms there would be if 'God' told
his ***** suckers to be; honest, courteous, empathic, compassionate,
and good stewards towards the planet and to treasure education.
Oh GEE 'he' did! And Christians, with few exceptions, ignore the
despot who will lovingly torture them for eternity.
They only follow those parts that allow them to make other people's
lives miserable.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 03:33:39 PM |
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In article <1118546657.623037.15880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
looseaint@aol.com says...
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
What! Nothing about orgies or date rape drugs? What a ripoff ;)
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
13 Jun 2005 01:34:40 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:33:39 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <1118546657.623037.15880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
looseaint@aol.com says...
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
What! Nothing about orgies or date rape drugs? What a ripoff ;)
One hopes that it at least has some phone numbers.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 11:09:30 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:34:40 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:33:39 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <1118546657.623037.15880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
looseaint@aol.com says...
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
What! Nothing about orgies or date rape drugs? What a ripoff ;)
One hopes that it at least has some phone numbers.
For a good tyme call 1-800-christian church.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
16 Jun 2005 12:40:48 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:09:30 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:34:40 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:33:39 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <1118546657.623037.15880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
looseaint@aol.com says...
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
What! Nothing about orgies or date rape drugs? What a ripoff ;)
One hopes that it at least has some phone numbers.
For a good tyme call 1-800-christian church.
That touches on the real problem. The Christians are horrified at the
thought that somebody might actually enjoy themselves without being
punished for it, the punishment to include the next thousand
generations or so.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Barry Trotter" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
13 Jun 2005 02:11:14 PM |
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In the great debate about "Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds
Condemned" in alt.atheism, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
catapaulted the following boulder:
pro-family groups
You mis-spelled "bunches of hypocrites who want the next generation to
grow up as fucked up as they are".
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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| User: "Matty" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
19 Jun 2005 06:39:43 AM |
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On 2005-06-12 15:24:17 +1200, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> said:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
LONDON, June 10, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A newly released sex
education manual for children aged 13 to 16, put out by the UK's FPA
(Family Planning Association), is being harshly criticized by
pro-family groups as being very inappropriate for children.
The booklet includes information on how to perform various sexual acts
including anal and oral sex, and includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
The booklet encourages children to explore their homosexual
attractions, and contains details on masturbation. The manual also
details where a child could get abortifacients like the morning-after
and birth control pills without their parents knowledge or consent.
Family and Youth Concern Director Norman Wells said, "Publications
like this one serve only to normalise sexual activity among young
people under the age of consent," according to a scotsman.com report.
Sexual intercourse is legal between consenting persons who are 16 years
old in England and 17 in Scotland. "The whole tone of the leaflet
cheapens sex rather than attempting to preserve its special character
as an expression of the total self-giving between a husband and wife in
the context of a lifelong committed marriage," Wells added.
Wells, reiterating the deeply-held traditional values of most Britons,
emphasized, "If we really want what is best for young people, we need
to tell them the whole truth - that saving sex for marriage is a
positive choice that brings with it a host of physical, emotional and
psychological benefits, and it is the only sure way of protection
against sexually transmitted infections."
Wells said the value of sex-ed for children is questionable, when you
look at the failure rate of such an approach - highlighted by UK
having Europe's highest teen pregnancy rate, along with a
skyrocketing incidence of sexually transmitted disease. "Rather than
persisting with the same old, tired, fatalistic approach that has
failed so dismally, we need to start treating young people with more
respect and give them a positive and much more radical message," he
said.
Meh, same problem here, IIRC, in NZ we have the third highest rate of
teen pregancies in the developed world, behind the UK and US.
Well, on the good side, no one can look at me - women and semen don't mix :P
Matt
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http://geocities.com/thegaykiwi
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 07:42:44 AM |
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in article 1118546657.623037.15880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, loose
cannon at wrote on 6/11/05 11:24 PM:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
You mean the things that, for Christian couples, have none of the
former--so they can't offer the latter to each other?
Paul
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 01:24:26 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:42:44 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net>
wrote:
Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
You homos are always looking for something for nothing. Now you want
free self-improvement booklets! ***** FREE LOADERS!
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12 Jun 2005 01:27:43 PM |
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<wbt@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:1cvoa19vg0nin3knveketci0568h3ashr2@4ax.com...
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:42:44 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net>
Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
You homos are always looking for something for nothing. Now you want
free self-improvement booklets! ***** FREE LOADERS!
....whined the anonymous coward.
Go kill yourself.
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12 Jun 2005 07:19:23 PM |
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in article 1cvoa19vg0nin3knveketci0568h3ashr2@4ax.com, at
wrote on 6/12/05 2:24 PM:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:42:44 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net>
wrote:
Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
You homos are always looking for something for nothing.
Much like your God....
Paul
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 08:04:29 AM |
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loose cannon wrote:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
If youth suffer from high numbers of unwanted pregnancies and STD's it
is because
they weren't told anything by their parents or they didn't listen to
their parents.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
Interestingly, you have not given us the title of the book and if you
did you
didn't put it in quotes.
Why only list one chapter? Why not list the title of all chapters so
the readers
get a sense of the book's content?
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
LONDON, June 10, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A newly released sex
education manual for children aged 13 to 16, put out by the UK's FPA
(Family Planning Association), is being harshly criticized by
pro-family groups as being very inappropriate for children.
The booklet includes information on how to perform various sexual acts
including anal and oral sex, and includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
The booklet encourages children to explore their homosexual
attractions, and contains details on masturbation.
You haven't quoted a page or text that the book suggests anything.
The manual also
details where a child could get abortifacients like the morning-after
and birth control pills without their parents knowledge or consent.
If parents don't believe in birth control and the girl and boyfriend are
determined to have sex, then what suggestion do you have for their where
they get information and what information should they be given?
Family and Youth Concern Director Norman Wells said, "Publications
like this one serve only to normalise sexual activity among young
people under the age of consent," according to a scotsman.com report.
That of course is an opinion and not fact. And you have supplied no
facts.
Sexual intercourse is legal between consenting persons who are 16 years
old in England and 17 in Scotland.
"The whole tone of the leaflet
cheapens sex rather than attempting to preserve its special character
as an expression of the total self-giving between a husband and wife in
the context of a lifelong committed marriage," Wells added.
Again that is opinion. You have supplied no facts. And ask any spouse
about
sex as being an expression of total self giving between a husband and a
wife in the
context of a lifelong committed marriage. Your ears will burn then the
husbands tell
you how often they are loved and wives will tell you how often
infidelity occurs over
their lifelong committed marriage.
Wells, reiterating the deeply-held traditional values of most Britons,
emphasized, "If we really want what is best for young people, we need
to tell them the whole truth - that saving sex for marriage is a
positive choice that brings with it a host of physical, emotional and
psychological benefits, and it is the only sure way of protection
against sexually transmitted infections."
Sexually transmitted diseases are brought home to spouses everyday
because husbands,
and wives indulge in adultery.
Wells said the value of sex-ed for children is questionable, when you
look at the failure rate of such an approach - highlighted by UK
having Europe's highest teen pregnancy rate, along with a
skyrocketing incidence of sexually transmitted disease. "Rather than
persisting with the same old, tired, fatalistic approach that has
failed so dismally, we need to start treating young people with more
respect and give them a positive and much more radical message," he
said.
The failure rate is often because the guys insist they won't wear a
condom
and both the guy and the girl thinkt he can't get pregnant just like
they
think they will come back a live hero from the front.
Your go on to say that young people should be given a positive and
radical message but sadly
fail to say what that is.
With low paying jobs, high cost of living, you tell us what positive
messages you have for youth.
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 11:10:38 AM |
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loose cannon wrote:
The booklet [...] includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
Aaaah! *The horror*...! 'Being aware of a partner's feelings'...! It's *the
end of the world*, people...!!
Actually, this reminds me of something I heard some 'Bishop' or other say
about 20 years ago on UK TV (we had many more god-slot programmes then than
we do now: just shows the hilarious decline in 'religion' in Britain!). What
this clown said, in all seriousness, was that one reason there shouldn't be
sex outside marriage is -- because "it raises the danger of 'comparison'
once people eventually do get married"...!!!
I * mean it*!!
In other words, the idiotic little *****-head had *not the slightest
hesitation* in advocating that countless people should lead sex lives
blighted first by years or decades of pointless abstinence; and then by
years or decades of unsatisfactory activity that goes unquestioned and
unexamined and unimproved because *neither partner knows any better*...!
Really, this Christain idiocy, this anti-life philosophy and its hatred of
all ntaural values, just shows what happens when *a disease is able to call
itself a cure*...
Katt.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 05:48:44 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote
The booklet [...] includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
Aaaah! *The horror*...! 'Being aware of a partner's feelings'...! It's
*the end of the world*, people...!!
It's a typical example of the trite morality peddled by the sex counselling
industry.
They are sufficiently in touch with reality to realise that male sexuality
can be aggressive or exploitative. Unfortuately telling women that the way
to get a very substantial level of protection from this, to wait until
marriage, isn't on because that involves telling women who have casual sex
that they are doing something wrong. So casual sex is OK, if the man
respects your feelings during sex.
Of course it is not as easy as that. A cynical man might do what a woman
likes in bed in order to keep a sexual relationship going, and then
terminate it when it becomes convenient to do so. A less cynical man might
genuinely try to have a caring relationship that respects the woman's
feelings, and then find that another woman who is interested in different
types of activity is more stimulating.
The Christian understanding of course is that fornication is a sin for both
the man and the woman. It is often the case that women try to exploit men by
offering sex early in the relationship, usually so that the man then offers
commitment that he wouldn't otherwise give. (There are other motives, of
course). The sex manual is very uncomfortable with the concept that women
can be sexually immoral at all. In the book, sexual morality applies only to
men.
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 08:11:42 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d8ie4c$pi5$2@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote
The booklet [...] includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
Aaaah! *The horror*...! 'Being aware of a partner's feelings'...! It's
*the end of the world*, people...!!
It's a typical example of the trite morality peddled by the sex
counselling industry.
Eh?
Oh, I get it: there's a *loony rant* coming up...! *Strap in*, people...!
They are sufficiently in touch with reality to realise that male sexuality
can be aggressive or exploitative. Unfortuately telling women that the way
to get a very substantial level of protection from this, to wait until
marriage, isn't on because that involves telling women who have casual sex
that they are doing something wrong. So casual sex is OK, if the man
respects your feelings during sex.
LOL!! This is just a troll, right? Or are you really one seriously fucked up
dude?
My considered diagnosis would be that you're a piece of damaged, misogynist
scum who superficially 'venerates' and 'worships' the 'purity' of women as
part of *a psychological stratagem that allows you to covertly hate and fear
them and their sexuality*; but all the same, you gotta tell us: am I right
in thinking that you're preaching this crap at us from the irredeemably
perverted vantage-point of alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic...? Do tell
us: I have a bet with a friend about this...!
Of course it is not as easy as that. A cynical man might do what a woman
likes in bed in order to keep a sexual relationship going, and then
terminate it when it becomes convenient to do so. A less cynical man might
genuinely try to have a caring relationship that respects the woman's
feelings, and then find that another woman who is interested in different
types of activity is more stimulating.
Sorry; but this is just *too fucking mad* for anyone in the real world to
want to react to it in a detailed way...
The Christian understanding of course is that fornication is a sin for
both the man and the woman. It is often the case that women try to exploit
men by offering sex early in the relationship, usually so that the man
then offers commitment that he wouldn't otherwise give. (There are other
motives, of course). The sex manual is very uncomfortable with the concept
that women can be sexually immoral at all. In the book, sexual morality
applies only to men.
*Zzzzzzzzzzzzz*.........
Katt.
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| User: "Bonnie B." |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 08:55:18 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:11:42 GMT, "Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d8ie4c$pi5$2@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote
The booklet [...] includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
Aaaah! *The horror*...! 'Being aware of a partner's feelings'...! It's
*the end of the world*, people...!!
It's a typical example of the trite morality peddled by the sex
counselling industry.
Eh?
Oh, I get it: there's a *loony rant* coming up...! *Strap in*, people...!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
Was that the "body" or the "slam" portion?
They are sufficiently in touch with reality to realise that male sexuality
can be aggressive or exploitative. Unfortuately telling women that the way
to get a very substantial level of protection from this, to wait until
marriage, isn't on because that involves telling women who have casual sex
that they are doing something wrong. So casual sex is OK, if the man
respects your feelings during sex.
LOL!! This is just a troll, right? Or are you really one seriously fucked up
dude?
My considered diagnosis would be that you're a piece of damaged, misogynist
scum who superficially 'venerates' and 'worships' the 'purity' of women as
part of *a psychological stratagem that allows you to covertly hate and fear
them and their sexuality*; but all the same, you gotta tell us: am I right
in thinking that you're preaching this crap at us from the irredeemably
perverted vantage-point of alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic...? Do tell
us: I have a bet with a friend about this...!
I can vouch for Malcolm being not just a reg on arc, but also one of
the most vehement, pig-headed traddies (traditional Catholics),
possibly a Pope Pius worshipper wannabe.
Of course it is not as easy as that. A cynical man might do what a woman
likes in bed in order to keep a sexual relationship going, and then
terminate it when it becomes convenient to do so. A less cynical man might
genuinely try to have a caring relationship that respects the woman's
feelings, and then find that another woman who is interested in different
types of activity is more stimulating.
Sorry; but this is just *too fucking mad* for anyone in the real world to
want to react to it in a detailed way...
The Christian understanding of course is that fornication is a sin for
both the man and the woman. It is often the case that women try to exploit
men by offering sex early in the relationship, usually so that the man
then offers commitment that he wouldn't otherwise give. (There are other
motives, of course). The sex manual is very uncomfortable with the concept
that women can be sexually immoral at all. In the book, sexual morality
applies only to men.
*Zzzzzzzzzzzzz*.........
Katt.
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| User: "Bill Walker" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
13 Jun 2005 06:36:51 AM |
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"Bonnie B." <456eerts@emas.org> wrote in message
news:eappa19nrp0c8ve0t7c05bhjb9mk42ftaf@4ax.com...
It's about time you showed up.. dammit.. I leave for a short while and come
back to find a whole bunch of nitwits trying to impress each other on these
newsgroups.. LOL.. Good to see you..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:11:42 GMT, "Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net>
wrote:
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 11:51:25 AM |
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In article <28Zqe.7442$q46.4291@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>, "Katt"
<seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
The booklet [...] includes a chapter titled, "How can
I be good at sex?" One example found in the chapter explains,
"No-one is born sexually experienced, and most of the fun is
learning. Talk to your partner. Ask what they like. Be aware of their
feelings as well as your own pleasure."
Aaaah! *The horror*...! 'Being aware of a partner's feelings'...! It's *the
end of the world*, people...!!
• "The sex drive itself gave organized religion an opportunity to
amass what was indisputably the greatest power ever lodged in human hands"
- Rabbi Abraham Feinberg
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 11:40:21 PM |
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loose cannon wrote:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's?
<sarcasm>
Not really. The majority of the population -- so we are told -- is
Christian; And they have this thing about the birds and the bees. They
smack of nature you see. And "nature" is another code word for
"evolution." Anything that smacks of nature is bad. (Such is the
haphazard nature -- oh, there's that word again -- of reproduction.)
Yet these are the same folks who claim to be "born again..." As though
Jesus has a vagina.
</sarcasm>
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference to the cards.
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
13 Jun 2005 06:52:53 AM |
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In article <V68re.29151$iu.28068@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>, Dionisio
<moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's?
<sarcasm>
Not really. The majority of the population -- so we are told -- is
Christian; And they have this thing about the birds and the bees. They
smack of nature you see. And "nature" is another code word for
"evolution." Anything that smacks of nature is bad. (Such is the
haphazard nature -- oh, there's that word again -- of reproduction.)
Yet these are the same folks who claim to be "born again..." As though
Jesus has a vagina.
</sarcasm>
• There is clearly no need to lable this as sarcasm. Thanks for the laugh.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
15 Jun 2005 11:10:00 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:40:21 GMT, Dionisio
<moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's?
<sarcasm>
Not really. The majority of the population -- so we are told -- is
Christian; And they have this thing about the birds and the bees. They
smack of nature you see. And "nature" is another code word for
"evolution." Anything that smacks of nature is bad. (Such is the
haphazard nature -- oh, there's that word again -- of reproduction.)
Yet these are the same folks who claim to be "born again..." As though
Jesus has a vagina.
</sarcasm>
Just a big *****.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned |
12 Jun 2005 08:39:21 AM |
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loose cannon wrote:
Is it any suprise why our youth are suffering from such high numbers of
unwanted pregnancies and of STD's? Maybe these people at FPA could
conjure a booklet about self respect and decency.
UK Sex-Ed Book for 13 to 16 Year-Olds Condemned by Pro-Family Groups
One chapter: "How can I be good at sex?"
LONDON, June 10, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A newly released sex
education manual for children aged 13 to 16, put out by the UK's FPA
(Family Planning Association), is being harshly criticized by
pro-family groups as being very inappropriate for children.
After reading this, one wonders if any of the members of these
so-called "pro family" groups ever get laid!
<snip propaganda>
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+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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