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05 Sep 2005 01:15:08 PM |
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Sex is more pleasurable for unmutilated men and women |
It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21.
Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under
age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body
modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their
own bodies as they please, it is wrong illegal mayhem to modify the
bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which
carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some places. Certainly
some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically
necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth
deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some
person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be
considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which
was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a
passing whim...... we've seen what multiple nose jobs have done to
Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue
splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of
18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be
exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal....
It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can
give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions
which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be
pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification.
While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to
improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives,
on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has
done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no
reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to
decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is
absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has
no say in the matter.
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| User: "Vivapadrepios personal Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: Sex is more pleasurable for unmutilated men and women |
06 Sep 2005 12:49:22 AM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21.
Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under
age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body
modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their
own bodies as they please, it is wrong illegal mayhem to modify the
bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which
carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some places. Certainly
some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically
necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth
deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some
person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be
considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which
was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a
passing whim...... we've seen what multiple nose jobs have done to
Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue
splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of
18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be
exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal....
It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can
give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions
which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be
pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification.
While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to
improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives,
on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has
done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no
reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to
decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is
absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has
no say in the matter.
Thank my parents I was brought up an atheist ;-)
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David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
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| User: "gab" |
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| Title: Re: Sex is more pleasurable for unmutilated men and women |
05 Sep 2005 07:36:29 PM |
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yOU WOULD BE THE TYPE WHO WOULD SCREAM "FREEDOM!"
SO, LET EACH BE FREE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS OR LIKES.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CIRCUMCISED, DON'T DO IT.
<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1125944107.998790.35870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21.
Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under
age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body
modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their
own bodies as they please, it is wrong illegal mayhem to modify the
bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which
carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some places. Certainly
some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically
necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth
deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some
person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be
considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which
was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a
passing whim...... we've seen what multiple nose jobs have done to
Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue
splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of
18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be
exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal....
It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can
give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions
which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be
pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification.
While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to
improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives,
on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has
done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no
reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to
decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is
absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has
no say in the matter.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Sex is more pleasurable for unmutilated men and women |
06 Sep 2005 01:10:04 AM |
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:36:29 +1000, "gab" <gab@realitymail.> wrote:
<essentialsexinfo3@rock.com> wrote in message
news:1125944107.998790.35870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21.
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yOU WOULD BE THE TYPE WHO WOULD SCREAM "FREEDOM!"
SO, LET EACH BE FREE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS OR LIKES.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CIRCUMCISED, DON'T DO IT.
Do babies want to be circumcised?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Sex is more pleasurable for unmutilated men and women |
06 Sep 2005 09:46:40 PM |
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:36:29 +1000, "gab" <gab@realitymail.> wrote:
yOU WOULD BE THE TYPE WHO WOULD SCREAM "FREEDOM!"
SO, LET EACH BE FREE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS OR LIKES.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CIRCUMCISED, DON'T DO IT.
So you're suggestion is that males shouldn't be circumcised until they
are old enough to make the decision for themselves.
I, for one, can't argue with that. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
Those who say, "Now is not the time for placing blame"
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....are quite often to blame....
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