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09 Apr 2006 03:14:38 PM |
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Sexual Morality, the Church and Ted Kennedy |
Here's a real 'oldie but goodie'.
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/freedomwriters/cfrassati_20050716.html
July 16, 2005
Sexual Morality, the Church and Ted Kennedy
Craig R. S. Frassati
Once again, good old Teddy Kennedy has put his foot in it. In an attack on
the Senate floor on Wednesday, Kennedy accused Sen. Rick Santorum of being
insensitive for a column he wrote in July 2002. The column in Catholic
Online stated that promoting alternative lifestyles feeds such aberrant
behavior as priests molesting children.
"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture," Santorum wrote. "When
the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no
excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic,
political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the
storm."
In his speech, the Massachusetts Democrat called for Santorum to retract his
remarks and apologize to the people of Boston and Massachusetts and the
nation. "The people of Boston are to blame for the clergy sexual abuse? That
is an irresponsible, insensitive and inexcusable thing to say," said
Kennedy.
Teddy arrogantly lambasted Santorum within the eminent forum of the Senate
on an article written 3 years ago. This, of course, begs the question: Why?
Obviously, this is an unveiled attempt at defamation- timed as Santorum
prepares for next year's reelection. Beyond that, however, Santorum's
statement was detrimental to the very floor on which liberals stand, because
it charges the liberal "culture of death" platforms (i.e. abortion,
euthanasia, and homosexual marriage) with having a negative affect on our
society.
This, of course, is why the recent sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church
must be continually blamed directly on the priests. In removing any blame
from a debased society, the Church itself seems to be left at fault. That is
to say, the Church caused the sexual abuse through its strict policies
against homosexuality, fornication, adultery and contraception, which have
actually stifled "normal and natural" sexual outlets.
The spin-doctors of our liberal media have done well in their task of
misrepresenting the nature of this scandal. First, by using catch phrases
like 'pedophile priests,' they have inappropriately labeled this issue. When
one considers that a majority of the victims were post-pubescent adolescents
with only 22 percent of the victims under the age of 10, it is clear that
this is hardly an issue with pedophilia (sexual behavior with pre-pubescent
children).
What difference does it make, you ask? True, abuse is abuse. The difference
is that, rather than just being an incomprehensible offense against
pre-pubescent children, sexual behavior toward adolescents can be understood
as influenced by unbridled promiscuity within our society
This particular case can be narrowed even further to ephebophilia- that is,
homosexual behavior with adolescents. An overwhelming majority of the
victims in this scandal (81 percent) were males, which goes against the
trend in U.S. society where the main problem is men abusing girls. So this
scandal is not mainly an issue with simple pedophilia. This is a problem
with homosexuality- a conclusion that is detrimental to the gay lobby. Thus,
the liberal spin on this issue is very understandable.
Attacking the Catholic Church falls directly into the homosexual movement's
plan to remove the influence of religion in society in order to further its
progressive and alarming agenda. Many refuse to believe in any sort of
organized homosexual agenda, because we'd all like to believe they all just
want to be gay and happy and left to live their lives as they please. This
idea goes out the window, as soon as one reads any of the many books
credited with mobilizing the homosexual movement.
Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen's After the Ball: How America Will Conquer
its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s shows how these attacks fall right
into their strategy to present conservative and traditional church doctrine
as fossilized. It reads, "By Conversion we actually mean something far more
profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life, without which no truly
sweeping social change can occur. We mean conversion of the average American
's emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the
form of propaganda."
In order to "convert" undecided America, Kirk and Madsen define their plan
to weaken religious opposition to homosexuality by obscuring the waters.
This starts by casting liberal and moderate churches against conservative
ones. With the help of liberal media, they are accomplishing this.
Homosexuality within the Church is a critical problem directly related to
the abuse crisis. This does not lessen the culpability of each priest, as
each perpetrator is at fault for committing this atrocious crime against
humanity. One can blame certain problems within the Church for swelling this
crisis, but the issues do not stem from its stringent guidelines for
morality. Nor can cover-ups and scandal containment be responsible for the
initiation of this disorder.
This damage has arisen from a widespread dissent within the Church from its
traditional teachings, particularly on sexual matters. Whether these
dissenters rebel from Church teachings on sexuality to justify their own
already deviant actions, or embrace liberal thoughts on sexuality (and,
thus, become more vulnerable to this immoral behavior,) it is clear that
basic theological acceptance of progressive ideas toward sexuality has lead
to a general and deadly collapse of sexual morality. With great wisdom, Pope
John Paul II stressed that ending this dissension must be the American
bishops' top priority in dealing with this crisis.
Senator Santorum mirrored this wisdom in his statement three years ago,
which pointed to just this sort of degradation within our culture. It was no
surprise to him that Boston would be at the "center of the storm" for this
scandal. Following this, it was no surprise the following year when the
Massachusetts Judicial Court ruled in favor of homosexual marriage.
Ted Kennedy seemed to think Santorum's column was blaming the people of
Boston for this scandal. He missed the entire point of the column, showing,
once again, that his deliberate left slant on every issue has completely
clouded his thinking. In running to the left, Kennedy has forgotten what he
was fleeing from and he certainly has no clue what he is heading to.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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09 Apr 2006 05:08:32 PM |
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wrote:
Here's a real 'oldie but goodie'.
Here is another oldie but goodie question:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Do they go to heaven or hell?
If they go to heaven, wht exactly is wrong with abortion?
If they go to hell, what exactly is wrong with god?
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10 Apr 2006 06:54:04 PM |
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wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
Here's a real 'oldie but goodie'.
Here is another oldie but goodie question:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Do they go to heaven or hell?
Kindly provide objective evidence that such a thing as a "soul"
actually exists.
:::crickets:::
Can't do it, can you?
Why am I not surprised?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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10 Apr 2006 07:30:46 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> writes:
Kindly provide objective evidence that such a thing as a "soul"
actually exists.
Well, you could put the carcass-to-be on a very sensitive scale and
see if there is a measurable loss of weight as the patient expires.
If popes are believed to have particularly weighty souls, we should
probably experiment on them, although it would be in very bad form
to do anything to hurry the process along, so we'll have to wait
some time to do the measurement. :-)
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| User: "? R. L. Measures" |
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11 Apr 2006 05:39:16 AM |
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In article <m3d5fpt0ro.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>,
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> writes:
Kindly provide objective evidence that such a thing as a "soul"
actually exists.
Well, you could put the carcass-to-be on a very sensitive scale and
see if there is a measurable loss of weight as the patient expires.
*** But what if a soul has zero mass, like a photon for instance?
If popes are believed to have particularly weighty souls, we should
probably experiment on them, although it would be in very bad form
to do anything to hurry the process along, so we'll have to wait
some time to do the measurement. :-)
chortle
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "No One" |
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11 Apr 2006 01:03:46 PM |
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"? R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> writes:
In article <m3d5fpt0ro.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>,
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> writes:
Kindly provide objective evidence that such a thing as a "soul"
actually exists.
Well, you could put the carcass-to-be on a very sensitive scale and
see if there is a measurable loss of weight as the patient expires.
*** But what if a soul has zero mass, like a photon for instance?
If a soul has zero rest mass, it would always travel at the speed of
light (just like photons, which have zero rest mass) and would be
hard prsssed to stay within the body. Photons do, however, have
energy, which is equivalent to mass, and will lose energy as they
move upwards in a gravitational field. If you had perfect mirrors
and could trap photons in a box, you would actually find that the
box weighed more when it contained photons than when it didn't.
Surprisingly, the interaction of photons with gravity has actually
been measured in a laboratory experiment - a loss of energy for a
photon corresponds to a change in frequency, and a classic experiment
used the Mossbauer effect to determine the shift in frequency as
gamma raditation travels upwards.
If popes are believed to have particularly weighty souls, we should
probably experiment on them, although it would be in very bad form
to do anything to hurry the process along, so we'll have to wait
some time to do the measurement. :-)
chortle
Yeah, I thought that one was pretty good too. :-)
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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09 Apr 2006 10:35:07 PM |
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wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Neither, everyone knows the soul enters with the first breath.
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| User: "Attila" |
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10 Apr 2006 06:00:31 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:35:07 -0700, Miriam Cohen
<mimiNOgalSPAM@cox.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Rnk_f.445$iF3.285@dukeread01> wrote:
wonderful@Phreaker.net wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Neither, everyone knows the soul enters with the first breath.
I don't. Prove it.
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10 Apr 2006 05:59:05 AM |
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On 9 Apr 2006 15:08:32 -0700, in alt.abortion
with message-id
<1144620512.418416.208900@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
Here's a real 'oldie but goodie'.
Here is another oldie but goodie question:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Do they go to heaven or hell?
If they go to heaven, wht exactly is wrong with abortion?
If they go to hell, what exactly is wrong with god?
Prove a soul exists.
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09 Apr 2006 05:44:33 PM |
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On 9 Apr 2006 15:08:32 -0700, wrote:
Here is another oldie but goodie question:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Here's another atheist revelation for you. The Pope has NOT abolished Limbo.
Limbo has always been a concept, not a known. Now the RCC simply says "We don't
know, so we'll just leave it that Christ takes care of his little ones lacking
the benefit of baptism".
Do they go to heaven or hell?
They eventually are believed to be accepted in heaven.
If they go to heaven, wht exactly is wrong with abortion?
The parents go to hell.
If they go to hell, what exactly is wrong with god?
They go to heaven.
Haahaahaahaahaa.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Attila" |
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10 Apr 2006 05:59:48 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:44:33 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<5d3j321soe7bc4fn2kn0jpgg9etr08pn7v@4ax.com> wrote:
On 9 Apr 2006 15:08:32 -0700, wrote:
Here is another oldie but goodie question:
Since Limbo had been abolished by Pope, what happens to the souls of
unborn babies?
Here's another atheist revelation for you. The Pope has NOT abolished Limbo.
Limbo has always been a concept, not a known. Now the RCC simply says "We don't
know, so we'll just leave it that Christ takes care of his little ones lacking
the benefit of baptism".
Do they go to heaven or hell?
They eventually are believed to be accepted in heaven.
If they go to heaven, wht exactly is wrong with abortion?
The parents go to hell.
If they go to hell, what exactly is wrong with god?
They go to heaven.
Haahaahaahaahaa.
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
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| User: "duke" |
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10 Apr 2006 05:57:48 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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10 Apr 2006 06:02:29 PM |
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In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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10 Apr 2006 06:37:27 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
-- cary
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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10 Apr 2006 10:03:38 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks would
get a clue.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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11 Apr 2006 05:44:41 AM |
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In News e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com,, Dennis Kemmerer at
dk@suespammers.org, typed this:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks
would get a clue.
Well, I know that 2,000 years of these idiots running about yelling "Repent!
The end is near!" is starting to turn a lot of people off.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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11 Apr 2006 06:25:12 AM |
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In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks would
get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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11 Apr 2006 11:13:53 AM |
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"• R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks
would
get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
2,000 years is Christianity's entire history.
However, your metaphor is backhandedly humorous.
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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11 Apr 2006 05:18:52 PM |
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In article <5BQ_f.67666$Jd.40861@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"• R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks
would
get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
2,000 years is Christianity's entire history.
• The first Mass took place 1612 years ago.
However, your metaphor is backhandedly humorous.
• thanx
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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11 Apr 2006 06:32:30 AM |
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In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks
would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole enchilada.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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11 Apr 2006 11:17:24 AM |
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In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these kooks
would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in April,
325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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11 Apr 2006 11:37:24 AM |
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In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these
kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in April,
325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't established
into any sort of organization.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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11 Apr 2006 05:15:28 PM |
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In article <8XQ_f.3002$Es3.156@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these
kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in April,
325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't established
into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who called
himself "the Son of man" specified?
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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11 Apr 2006 05:26:56 PM |
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In News r-7D31FD.15152811042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <8XQ_f.3002$Es3.156@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these
kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in April,
325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who called
himself "the Son of man" specified?
I don't recall that the "Son of Man" specified any church. In fact, he
seemed rather down on the whole organized religion scene. However, there
were numerous churches, each with a different point of view on things.
They were located in various towns and cities. A merchant had to be
careful that they knew the particular dogma of any given area, or else they
could be put to death as heretics just travelling from town to town. That
is the reason that Constantine called the leaders of the various
denominations together to form a more unified church, and, of course, add
the touch of divinity to his rule that he wanted.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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12 Apr 2006 08:37:22 AM |
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In article <Q2W_f.5802$i41.3807@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-7D31FD.15152811042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <8XQ_f.3002$Es3.156@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these
kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in April,
325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who called
himself "the Son of man" specified?
I don't recall that the "Son of Man" specified any church.
• Where two or three are gathered together in my name ,,,
In fact, he
seemed rather down on the whole organized religion scene.
• agreed, which is why he was offed by the leaders of the largest
organized religion in his neighborhood.
However, there
were numerous churches, each with a different point of view on things.
They were located in various towns and cities. A merchant had to be
careful that they knew the particular dogma of any given area, or else they
could be put to death as heretics just travelling from town to town. That
is the reason that Constantine called the leaders of the various
denominations together to form a more unified church, and, of course, add
the touch of divinity to his rule that he wanted.
• Constantine's mom was apparently a factor too.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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12 Apr 2006 04:45:35 PM |
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In News r-5ADD49.06372212042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <Q2W_f.5802$i41.3807@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-7D31FD.15152811042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <8XQ_f.3002$Es3.156@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, •
R. L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these
kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in
April, 325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who called
himself "the Son of man" specified?
I don't recall that the "Son of Man" specified any church.
• Where two or three are gathered together in my name ,,,
In fact, he
seemed rather down on the whole organized religion scene.
• agreed, which is why he was offed by the leaders of the largest
organized religion in his neighborhood.
However, there
were numerous churches, each with a different point of view on
things. They were located in various towns and cities. A merchant
had to be careful that they knew the particular dogma of any given
area, or else they could be put to death as heretics just travelling
from town to town. That is the reason that Constantine called the
leaders of the various denominations together to form a more unified
church, and, of course, add the touch of divinity to his rule that
he wanted.
• Constantine's mom was apparently a factor too.
And his sister as well, but I can't remember what it was now.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| Title: Re: Do souls of unborn babies go to heaven or hell? |
12 Apr 2006 07:07:11 PM |
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In article <3ye%f.6099$i41.5892@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-5ADD49.06372212042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <Q2W_f.5802$i41.3807@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-7D31FD.15152811042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <8XQ_f.3002$Es3.156@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, •
R. L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening, these
kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in
April, 325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who called
himself "the Son of man" specified?
I don't recall that the "Son of Man" specified any church.
• Where two or three are gathered together in my name ,,,
In fact, he
seemed rather down on the whole organized religion scene.
• agreed, which is why he was offed by the leaders of the largest
organized religion in his neighborhood.
However, there
were numerous churches, each with a different point of view on
things. They were located in various towns and cities. A merchant
had to be careful that they knew the particular dogma of any given
area, or else they could be put to death as heretics just travelling
from town to town. That is the reason that Constantine called the
leaders of the various denominations together to form a more unified
church, and, of course, add the touch of divinity to his rule that
he wanted.
• Constantine's mom was apparently a factor too.
And his sister as well, but I can't remember what it was now.
• I've not heard about his sister.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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12 Apr 2006 07:23:41 PM |
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In News r-1888CD.17071012042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <3ye%f.6099$i41.5892@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-5ADD49.06372212042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <Q2W_f.5802$i41.3807@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-7D31FD.15152811042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <8XQ_f.3002$Es3.156@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-AA1AB1.09172411042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, •
R. L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article
<itM_f.3072$sq5.2491@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-959ED6.04251211042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,,
• R. L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <e0F_f.10108$4L1.8474@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke
at duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in
judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing
happens. More's the pity.
You'd think that after 2,000 years of nothing happening,
these kooks would get a clue.
Geologically speaking. 2000 years isn't even a pot to ***** in.
True, but Christianity speaking, that's pretty much their whole
enchilada.
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in
April, 325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who
called himself "the Son of man" specified?
I don't recall that the "Son of Man" specified any church.
• Where two or three are gathered together in my name ,,,
In fact, he
seemed rather down on the whole organized religion scene.
• agreed, which is why he was offed by the leaders of the largest
organized religion in his neighborhood.
However, there
were numerous churches, each with a different point of view on
things. They were located in various towns and cities. A merchant
had to be careful that they knew the particular dogma of any given
area, or else they could be put to death as heretics just
travelling from town to town. That is the reason that
Constantine called the leaders of the various denominations
together to form a more unified church, and, of course, add the
touch of divinity to his rule that he wanted.
• Constantine's mom was apparently a factor too.
And his sister as well, but I can't remember what it was now.
• I've not heard about his sister.
Yes... There was a General... Licinius, I think, who was was a Christian
when it wasn't really popular to be Christian, he was a closet Christian I
guess you could say. Anyway, this general married Constantine's sister,
Constantia in Milan. Anyway, it was this general who converted first
Constantia, and through her, Constantine to Christianity and confirmed
Constantine's famous (or infamous, depending on your viewpoint) "Edict of
Milan", which was an order of toleration for Christians. If memory serves,
the approximate date for this was about 310 AD.
I believe that the general facts of this is correct, but it has been a long
time since I studied Christian History, on the order of 40 or so years ago,
so forgive me if some of this is off.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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12 Apr 2006 08:51:06 PM |
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In article <hSg%f.3825$sq5.2616@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-1888CD.17071012042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <3ye%f.6099$i41.5892@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-5ADD49.06372212042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
...
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in
April, 325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who
called himself "the Son of man" specified?
...
• Constantine's mom was apparently a factor too.
And his sister as well, but I can't remember what it was now.
• I've not heard about his sister.
Yes... There was a General... Licinius, I think, who was was a Christian
when it wasn't really popular to be Christian, he was a closet Christian I
guess you could say. Anyway, this general married Constantine's sister,
Constantia in Milan. Anyway, it was this general who converted first
Constantia, and through her, Constantine to Christianity and confirmed
Constantine's famous (or infamous, depending on your viewpoint) "Edict of
Milan", which was an order of toleration for Christians. If memory serves,
the approximate date for this was about 310 AD.
I believe that the general facts of this is correct, but it has been a long
time since I studied Christian History, on the order of 40 or so years ago,
so forgive me if some of this is off.
• thank you.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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12 Apr 2006 09:00:29 PM |
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In News r-8184AB.18510612042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R. L.
Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <hSg%f.3825$sq5.2616@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-1888CD.17071012042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
In article <3ye%f.6099$i41.5892@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News r-5ADD49.06372212042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net,, • R.
L. Measures at r@somis.org, typed this:
...
• ... and, since modern Christianity was cobbled together in
April, 325, so it's more like 1601 years as of this month.
There were Christian Churchs before 325 though, they weren't
established into any sort of organization.
• What is the size range of the churches that the rabbi who
called himself "the Son of man" specified?
...
• Constantine's mom was apparently a factor too.
And his sister as well, but I can't remember what it was now.
• I've not heard about his sister.
Yes... There was a General... Licinius, I think, who was was a
Christian when it wasn't really popular to be Christian, he was a
closet Christian I guess you could say. Anyway, this general
married Constantine's sister, Constantia in Milan. Anyway, it was
this general who converted first Constantia, and through her,
Constantine to Christianity and confirmed Constantine's famous (or
infamous, depending on your viewpoint) "Edict of Milan", which was
an order of toleration for Christians. If memory serves, the
approximate date for this was about 310 AD.
I believe that the general facts of this is correct, but it has been
a long time since I studied Christian History, on the order of 40 or
so years ago, so forgive me if some of this is off.
• thank you.
No problem.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| Title: Re: Do souls of unborn babies go to heaven or hell? |
10 Apr 2006 06:50:49 PM |
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In News e1eq7n$qt2$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu,, Cary Kittrell at
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
In News 6mol329njvhq7s496lcjah34cjsgl7ovmf@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
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Prove either heaven or hell exists.
You'll find out for sure one day when you stand in judgment.
You'll find out one day when nothing happens.
Actually, he won't find out on that day that nothing happens.
More's the pity.
LOL! That's the bad part of not believing in a magical sky pixie, you won't
be able to see the look on their face when they find out there's no people
to gloat over. :c)
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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