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16 Jun 2006 08:53:31 PM |
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Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given a
medal and a 3 day pass
http://marinetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1875786.php
OCEANSIDE, Calif. - Military officials on Friday said they have decided to
remove shackles put on seven confined Marines and one sailor whenever they'
re outside their individual cells at the Camp Pendleton brig, a Marine Corps
spokesman said.
The eight men, confined at the brig since May 24, were being held with
"maximum" restraints based on their battalion commander's decision following
an initial investigation into the shooting. As of Friday, they were shifted
into what's called "medium-in" restraint in pre-trial custody, which does
not require shackles to be worn, although they remain escorted anytime they
are outside their cell, according to 2nd Lt. Lawton King, a base spokesman.
Under "medium-in," they won't have any personal restraint while inside the
brig, but once outside - such as to go to a court hearing - each "is
restrained with handcuffs attached to a leather belt . and their respective
escorts carry along leg cuffs in the event they are needed," King said.
The decision to lower the restraint level came after a June 15 review by the
brig commander, he said.
The seven Marines and Navy corpsman, all members of the Pendleton-based 3rd
Battalion, 5th Marines currently deployed in Iraq, were first confined to
quarters in Iraq on May 12 after allegations rose over the April 26 death of
an Iraqi man in the village of Hamdaniya.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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25 Jun 2006 02:33:00 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
The hundreds that have been rotting in Guantanamo for the past four years?
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people are
civilians.
Sometimes the civilians are murdered by those "brave soldiers".
This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're just another pro-death lunatic.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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25 Jun 2006 02:38:02 AM |
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On 25 Jun 2006 07:33:00 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
The hundreds that have been rotting in Guantanamo for the past four years?
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people are
civilians.
Which is why a war of aggression is a war crime according to the UN
treaty, the Geneva Conventions and the Nuremberg precedents. So you
can't attack a country, slaughter civilians and hide behind "these
things happen in war" - when you started the war in the first place.
Sometimes the civilians are murdered by those "brave soldiers".
This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're just another pro-death lunatic.
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| User: "stoney" |
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25 Jun 2006 10:25:33 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:38:02 -0400, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in alt.atheism
On 25 Jun 2006 07:33:00 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
The hundreds that have been rotting in Guantanamo for the past four years?
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people are
civilians.
Which is why a war of aggression is a war crime according to the UN
treaty, the Geneva Conventions and the Nuremberg precedents. So you
can't attack a country, slaughter civilians and hide behind "these
things happen in war" - when you started the war in the first place.
So who's going to arrest BushCo?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "osprey" |
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16 Jun 2006 08:59:27 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people
are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given
a
medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with were
talking about some Marines being held without having been charged with
anything. Are these the marines they were talking about? We got to talking
about this after the USSC decision that came out yesterday on law
enforcement not having to knock if they had a search warrant. From what I
knew, they could do that already under very specific circumstances, such as
thinking the evidence will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who is
going to search and when.
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told yesterday about
some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you without
informing you of what you are being charged with?
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| User: "Hotel Charlie One" |
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17 Jun 2006 08:26:47 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
news:GqGdnfWQv6Nz_A7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals. Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
sometimes those people are civilians. This is why they say " war is
ugly ". These men should be given a medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with
were talking about some Marines being held without having been
charged with anything. Are these the marines they were talking
about? We got to talking about this after the USSC decision that
came out yesterday on law enforcement not having to knock if they
had a search warrant. From what I knew, they could do that already
under very specific circumstances, such as thinking the evidence
will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who is going to search
and when.
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told
yesterday about some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you
without informing you of what you are being charged with?
Technically no, although the UCMJ supersedes your Constitutional
rights you still have the basic right to confront your accuser (and
that implies knowing the crime). However, we are living with
administrations that are corrupt. They see nothing but power and have
no qualms in saying "Your rights stop the minute we (the government)
refuse to honor them".
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our founders
is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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| User: "osprey" |
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17 Jun 2006 08:53:40 AM |
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Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
news:GqGdnfWQv6Nz_A7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals. Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
sometimes those people are civilians. This is why they say " war is
ugly ". These men should be given a medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with
were talking about some Marines being held without having been
charged with anything. Are these the marines they were talking
about? We got to talking about this after the USSC decision that
came out yesterday on law enforcement not having to knock if they
had a search warrant. From what I knew, they could do that already
under very specific circumstances, such as thinking the evidence
will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who is going to search
and when.
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told
yesterday about some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you
without informing you of what you are being charged with?
Technically no, although the UCMJ supersedes your Constitutional
rights you still have the basic right to confront your accuser (and
that implies knowing the crime).
That's what I thought. When I was in the Air Force, I learned a lot
about the UCMJ.
However, we are living with
administrations that are corrupt. They see nothing but power and have
no qualms in saying "Your rights stop the minute we (the government)
refuse to honor them".
Well, I don't know if all that's true, but it could be. I am just
going to leave it alone.
But if those Marines are being held without being charged, I would hope
that someone is fighting for their rights.
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our founders
is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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17 Jun 2006 09:50:45 AM |
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In article <1150552420.268580.143960@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
news:GqGdnfWQv6Nz_A7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals. Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
sometimes those people are civilians. This is why they say " war is
ugly ". These men should be given a medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with
were talking about some Marines being held without having been
charged with anything. Are these the marines they were talking
about? We got to talking about this after the USSC decision that
came out yesterday on law enforcement not having to knock if they
had a search warrant. From what I knew, they could do that already
under very specific circumstances, such as thinking the evidence
will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who is going to search
and when.
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told
yesterday about some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you
without informing you of what you are being charged with?
Technically no, although the UCMJ supersedes your Constitutional
rights you still have the basic right to confront your accuser (and
that implies knowing the crime).
That's what I thought. When I was in the Air Force, I learned a lot
about the UCMJ.
He was reprimanded a number of times.
However, we are living with
administrations that are corrupt. They see nothing but power and have
no qualms in saying "Your rights stop the minute we (the government)
refuse to honor them".
Well, I don't know if all that's true, but it could be. I am just
going to leave it alone.
Osprey is a coward about actually having to discuss substantive issues.
But if those Marines are being held without being charged, I would hope
that someone is fighting for their rights.
LAWYERS
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our founders
is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
Our "founders" were liberals, you idiot.
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| User: "Hotel Charlie One" |
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17 Jun 2006 10:04:05 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in
news:170620060750452702%dbarnes@aol.com:
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our
founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
Our "founders" were liberals, you idiot.
Liberals, no. Classic liberals, yes. They would be libertarians today.
Just look at the Constitution. Is there any other document that comes
close to saying "Government, leave me the F alone!"? Neither today's
liberals or conservatives hold that belief of our Founding Fathers.
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| User: "osprey" |
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17 Jun 2006 11:51:09 AM |
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Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in
news:170620060750452702%dbarnes@aol.com:
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our
founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
Our "founders" were liberals, you idiot.
Liberals, no. Classic liberals, yes. They would be libertarians today.
Just look at the Constitution. Is there any other document that comes
close to saying "Government, leave me the F alone!"? Neither today's
liberals or conservatives hold that belief of our Founding Fathers.
Today's liberals are not like yesterday's liberals. Yesterday's
liberals truly did care about important issues, like the environment,
health, smaller government, individual rights, and so on.
Today's liberal's are ruthless, liars, revengeful, full of hate and
bigotry, and totally unreasonable people.
Yesterday's conservatives...same thing. Cared about important issues
such as security, military, conservation, and so on.
Today's conservatives, no different than today's liberals. Biased,
unreasonable, willing to attack anyone who doesn't follow along in
their steps.
I left the Republican party a few years ago after I was told by people
in my own party that I was becoming "one of them liberals" simply
because I started to oppose the war after it was becoming more and more
evident that our country made a mistake. I was highly upset and decided
that I would become independent and not goose-step along in any party.
I view both extremist from both sides dangerous. I have listened to
some libertarians and I like how they approach things. They appear, at
least from what I have observed, more willing to meet in the middle
than the liberal or the right wing conservative.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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17 Jun 2006 04:54:50 PM |
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In article <1150563069.615449.26210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in
news:170620060750452702%dbarnes@aol.com:
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our
founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
Our "founders" were liberals, you idiot.
Liberals, no. Classic liberals, yes. They would be libertarians today.
Just look at the Constitution. Is there any other document that comes
close to saying "Government, leave me the F alone!"? Neither today's
liberals or conservatives hold that belief of our Founding Fathers.
Today's liberals are not like yesterday's liberals. Yesterday's
liberals truly did care about important issues, like the environment,
health, smaller government, individual rights, and so on.
Today's liberal's are ruthless, liars, revengeful, full of hate and
bigotry, and totally unreasonable people.
Yesterday's conservatives...same thing. Cared about important issues
such as security, military, conservation, and so on.
Today's conservatives, no different than today's liberals. Biased,
unreasonable, willing to attack anyone who doesn't follow along in
their steps.
I left the Republican party a few years ago after I was told by people
in my own party that I was becoming "one of them liberals" simply
because I started to oppose the war after it was becoming more and more
evident that our country made a mistake. I was highly upset and decided
that I would become independent and not goose-step along in any party.
I view both extremist from both sides dangerous. I have listened to
some libertarians and I like how they approach things. They appear, at
least from what I have observed, more willing to meet in the middle
than the liberal or the right wing conservative.
Osprey has gotten his ***** kicked by liberals so often he HATES them.
If you look at what he said above and replaced the word "liberal" with
"*****," you could almost imagine him with a hood over his head.
Osprey is an "independent" the way Bill O'Reilly is an independent.
Both are registered Republicans, ignorant, and full of hate.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcmfm9-y83E&search=msnbc>
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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17 Jun 2006 04:54:50 PM |
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In article <Xns97E5520058EFFcipciphc1@199.45.49.11>, Hotel Charlie One
<hotel_charlie_one@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in
news:170620060750452702%dbarnes@aol.com:
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our
founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
Our "founders" were liberals, you idiot.
Liberals, no. Classic liberals, yes. They would be libertarians today.
I disagree. Liberals are liberals. When people start redefining what
liberal means it is the sign of convenient thinking.
Just look at the Constitution. Is there any other document that comes
close to saying "Government, leave me the F alone!"? Neither today's
liberals or conservatives hold that belief of our Founding Fathers.
Liberals do. I certainly do, too.
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| User: "2500 Dead" |
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17 Jun 2006 12:10:27 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:04:05 GMT, Hotel Charlie One
<hotel_charlie_one@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in
news:170620060750452702%dbarnes@aol.com:
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The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are gone. The America of our
founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
Nicely said.
Our "founders" were liberals, you idiot.
Liberals, no. Classic liberals, yes. They would be libertarians today.
You think they would approve of the untrammeled power given to
corporations?
Or the efforts to prevent workers from forming unions?
Just look at the Constitution. Is there any other document that comes
close to saying "Government, leave me the F alone!"? Neither today's
liberals or conservatives hold that belief of our Founding Fathers.
--
Go, England!
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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16 Jun 2006 09:08:42 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:GqGdnfWQv6Nz_A7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com...
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people
are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with were
talking about some Marines being held without having been charged with
anything. Are these the marines they were talking about? We got to
talking about this after the USSC decision that came out yesterday on law
enforcement not having to knock if they had a search warrant. From what I
knew, they could do that already under very specific circumstances, such
as thinking the evidence will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who
is going to search and when.
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told yesterday
about some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you without
informing you of what you are being charged with?
They can do whatever they can get away with - they can get away with lots in
your idiotic so-called 'freedumbocracy'
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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17 Jun 2006 12:28:43 AM |
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In article <GqGdnfWQv6Nz_A7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people
are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given
a
medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with were
talking about some Marines being held without having been charged with
anything. Are these the marines they were talking about? We got to talking
about this after the USSC decision that came out yesterday on law
enforcement not having to knock if they had a search warrant. From what I
knew, they could do that already under very specific circumstances, such as
thinking the evidence will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who is
going to search and when.
You got the case wrong - what a shock!
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told yesterday about
some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you without
informing you of what you are being charged with?
This is the new Reich, under the Republicans you have no rights.
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Jun 2006 10:20:11 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:59:27 -0400, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people
are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given
a
medal and a 3 day pass
The other night while I was going to work, a few friends I work with were
talking about some Marines being held without having been charged with
anything. Are these the marines they were talking about? We got to talking
about this after the USSC decision that came out yesterday on law
enforcement not having to knock if they had a search warrant. From what I
knew, they could do that already under very specific circumstances, such as
thinking the evidence will be destroyed if the persons are aware of who is
going to search and when.
Regardless of that issue, I am curious about what I was told yesterday about
some marines being held without being charged.
I know a little bit about the UCMJ, but can they still hold you without
informing you of what you are being charged with?
Technically no. However, for all practical purposes with upper echelon
backing they can do whatever they wish. IIRC you can be held for 72
hours without being charged.
I'm not sure about how 'protective custody' works.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Tabula Rasa" |
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16 Jun 2006 09:05:36 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com...
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people
are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given
a
medal and a 3 day pass
They are terrorists and evil invaders. Fortunately for them they are no
longer targets for the Iraq resistance movement. Some other terrorist
invader will have to die in their place.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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17 Jun 2006 02:34:19 AM |
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schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
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17 Jun 2006 08:19:59 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
That is a terrible thing to say to another individual. I hope you find some
serentity and lose that hatred sometime in the near future.
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| User: "osprey" |
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17 Jun 2006 08:29:53 PM |
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<youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150529659.190070.34060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
That is a terrible thing to say to another individual. I hope you find some
serentity and lose that hatred sometime in the near future.
That's how a lot of these liberals are today, they hope other people
die. It's sad and pathetic.
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| User: "" |
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17 Jun 2006 09:36:43 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150594193.297080.218380@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
<youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150529659.190070.34060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
That is a terrible thing to say to another individual. I hope you find
some
serentity and lose that hatred sometime in the near future.
That's how a lot of these liberals are today, they hope other people
die. It's sad and pathetic.
Sad indeed. What the problem really boils down to is; they can't dispute the
message so they attack the messenger. I personally hold no dislike or
hostility towards any of these nice people. I just wish they could act as
civilized as we so-called 'conservatives'.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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18 Jun 2006 09:49:53 AM |
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In article <AdWdnepnoISpIQnZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150594193.297080.218380@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
<youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150529659.190070.34060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
That is a terrible thing to say to another individual. I hope you find
some
serentity and lose that hatred sometime in the near future.
That's how a lot of these liberals are today, they hope other people
die. It's sad and pathetic.
Sad indeed. What the problem really boils down to is; they can't dispute the
message so they attack the messenger. I personally hold no dislike or
hostility towards any of these nice people. I just wish they could act as
civilized as we so-called 'conservatives'.
Every time someone "disputes the message," you fall silent or spit out
more hate. As far as conservatives being "civilized," give it a break.
Most of the hate, death, and intolerance of the world comes from the
"conservatives." If it wasn't for hate, death, and intolerance, being
a conservative wouldn't be in vogue.
"³I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much.² -
Ann Coulter, Conservative, speak of the wives of 9/11 victims wives.
Rush Limbaugh states, "Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is
the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" And
he puts up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Chelsea Clinton is 13 years
old.
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should
they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
--President George Bush
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you
to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is
a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to
conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want
pluralism."
--Randall Terry, The News Sentinel, (Ft. Wayne, IN.), 8/16/93
"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human
being." --Jerry Falwell
"God Hates Fags!" --Rev. Fred Phelps
Of course, as Adolf Hitler, another Right Wing conservative, once
pointed out, "The great masses of the people will more easily fall
victims to a big lie than to a small one." People like you sure fit
that bill.
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| User: "Adam H" |
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17 Jun 2006 09:40:39 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:36:43 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150594193.297080.218380@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
<youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150529659.190070.34060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
That is a terrible thing to say to another individual. I hope you find
some
serentity and lose that hatred sometime in the near future.
That's how a lot of these liberals are today, they hope other people
die. It's sad and pathetic.
Sad indeed. What the problem really boils down to is; they can't dispute the
message so they attack the messenger. I personally hold no dislike or
hostility towards any of these nice people. I just wish they could act as
civilized as we so-called 'conservatives'.
Young, when you CAN act civilized come back and see us. Until then,
you'll continue to be attacked when you continue to post slanders and
racist messages.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
18 Jun 2006 09:49:52 AM |
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In article <l_CdnQ1y2IalNwnZnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150529659.190070.34060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common
criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
That is a terrible thing to say to another individual. I hope you find some
serentity and lose that hatred sometime in the near future.
You are one of the most hate filled people out here, and you say that?
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 04:19:57 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Have they been charged with a crime?
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
I did my time, did you?
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 04:54:50 PM |
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In article <1150535997.453027.132730@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Have they been charged with a crime?
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
I did my time, did you?
L I A R
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 09:50:44 AM |
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In article <1150535997.453027.132730@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Easy: if they act like criminals, they are criminals. This is called
"democracy".
Have they been charged with a crime?
Osprey falls back on his ignorance. He made this same claim in the
past, about Bush. (He says that since Bush was never charged with
using cocaine and going AWOL, that proves he never did those things.)
He says that if you are not CHARGED with a crime that means you could
not have committed the crime. Apparently the so called "college"
Osprey went to was short on knowledge. Obviously you can commit a
crime without being charged. Furthermore, it is just as obvious that
being CHARGED does not mean you did, in fact, commit the crime.
Hopefully, officials of responsibility are better informed on the law
than our resident baby sitter, Osprey.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts;
Yeah. Too bad you're not ready to do that for your beloved country.
I did my time, did you?
LIAR. You DIDN'T fulfill your commitment. You have admitted in the
past that you left the service early and under conditions that do not
allow you to return.
sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be
given a
medal and a 3 day pass
You're a sick ***** J Young.
I hope you die after a long and painful disease... and the sooner the
better... And I'll give a three-day pass to the doctor who'll let you
die.
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| User: "Attila2" |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 07:30:17 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:53:31 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Off topic spam.
What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 08:01:28 AM |
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In article <8et7929hlolg4j7bp2cij0tpeghfs5r6im@4ax.com>,
Attila2 <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:53:31 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Off topic spam.
What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you
do? even osprey has legitimately commented on your hypocrisy.
your hypocrisy aside, what you might want to do to make yourself feel
like an even bigger ***** is take a random sample of posts you've
whined about and then search google for the number of posts with this
topic, demonstrating that readers know what is of interest to them
far better than you do.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 08:03:52 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:01:28 -0400, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <8et7929hlolg4j7bp2cij0tpeghfs5r6im@4ax.com>,
Attila2 <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:53:31 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Off topic spam.
What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Here's a clue, moron: there is a reason usenet is split into so many
newsgroups. I'll let you work out why it is.
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you
do? even osprey has legitimately commented on your hypocrisy.
your hypocrisy aside, what you might want to do to make yourself feel
like an even bigger ***** is take a random sample of posts you've
whined about and then search google for the number of posts with this
topic, demonstrating that readers know what is of interest to them
far better than you do.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor |
17 Jun 2006 09:42:14 AM |
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In article <nbv7921ooeoalf0h5rds2rp5s0cni1tb7h@4ax.com>,
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:01:28 -0400, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <8et7929hlolg4j7bp2cij0tpeghfs5r6im@4ax.com>,
Attila2 <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:53:31 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<NuSdnXTE3pgB_Q7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Off topic spam.
What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Here's a clue, moron: there is a reason usenet is split into so many
newsgroups.
and why some groups are moderated and others unmoderated.
moron indeed.
I'll let you work out why it is.
i'll let you work out why some are moderated and others unmoderated
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you
do? even osprey has legitimately commented on your hypocrisy.
your hypocrisy aside, what you might want to do to make yourself feel
like an even bigger ***** is take a random sample of posts you've
whined about and then search google for the number of posts with this
topic, demonstrating that readers know what is of interest to them
far better than you do.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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17 Jun 2006 08:38:12 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and <youngopinions@aol.com> posting
the following on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:53:31 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
How dare they treat these brave soldiers as if they were common criminals.
Unfortunately, people die in military conflicts; sometimes those people are
civilians. This is why they say " war is ugly ". These men should be given a
medal and a 3 day pass
They are accused of violations of the UCMJ and are awaiting their
hearing in confinement.
You may not understand, never having served, but we live to a higher
standard that you. We follow the rules, or we get punished. These
Marines (and their corpsman) will have a fair hearing, and then if the
evidence warrants it, a court-martial.
Until that time, they are prisoners. And will be treated as such.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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