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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 30 Sep 2005 01:17:02 PM
Object: Shcool charges student used witchcraft
This is kinda old but I just saw this on the James Randi
web site, second feature.
http://www.randi.org/jr/12-08-2000.html

From the Tulsa World, via Reuters New Service, we are further dismayed

to
learn this:
When a teacher at Union Intermediate High School in Broken
Arrow, Oklahoma, fell "mysteriously" ill, student Brandi
Blackbear, 15, was brought in for "aggressive interrogation"
by assistant principal Charlie Bushyhead. Blackbear admitted
she had read books from the school library about Wicca [a
witchcraft nature-oriented religion] and said she "might" be
Wiccan. She is Roman Catholic, her family says. A federal
lawsuit against the school charges Bushyhead suspended
Blackbear for 15 days as "an immediate threat to the school,"
seized her notebooks, and barred her from drawing or wearing
any Wiccan signs, because he concluded she had "put a hex"
on the stricken teacher. Blackbear denies casting any
spells. "It's hard for me to believe that in the year 2000
I am walking into court to defend my daughter against
charges of witchcraft brought by her own school," her
father said. The school district's attorney, Doug Mann,
was eager to comment on the case but could only complain,
"It's totally unfair that we are gagged by federal and
state law" protecting minors and students when the Blackbears
"can say anything they want."
What would you tell us about, if you could, counselor? About
broomsticks, eye of newt, toe of frog? Get real!
.

User: "No 33 Secretary"

Title: Re: Shcool charges student used witchcraft 30 Sep 2005 01:35:42 PM
wrote in
news:1128104222.575906.253000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


This is kinda old but I just saw this on the James Randi
web site, second feature.

http://www.randi.org/jr/12-08-2000.html

Any update on this five year old story?
--
"So there is no third law of Terrydynamics."
-- William Hyde
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Shcool charges student used witchcraft 30 Sep 2005 02:26:32 PM
No 33 Secretary wrote:

lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote in
news:1128104222.575906.253000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


This is kinda old but I just saw this on the James Randi
web site, second feature.

http://www.randi.org/jr/12-08-2000.html


Any update on this five year old story?

She filed a federal lawsuit in October of 2000, claiming that her two
suspensions based on her interest in Wicca amounted to religious
discrimination and that, as a result, her constitutional rights had been
violated.
On July 18, 2002, US District Court Judge Claire Eagan issued a ruling
that dismissed the lawsuit, saying that the suspensions (somehow) did
not violate Blackbear's civil rights. The basis of the ruling was that,
since she denied being a Wiccan, she could not be discriminated against
for being a Wiccan.
That is the latest information I've seen.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "No 33 Secretary"

Title: Re: Shcool charges student used witchcraft 30 Sep 2005 03:08:34 PM
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:433D9168.227BC432@serv.net:

No 33 Secretary wrote:

lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote in
news:1128104222.575906.253000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


This is kinda old but I just saw this on the James Randi
web site, second feature.

http://www.randi.org/jr/12-08-2000.html


Any update on this five year old story?


She filed a federal lawsuit in October of 2000, claiming that her two
suspensions based on her interest in Wicca amounted to religious
discrimination and that, as a result, her constitutional rights had been
violated.

On July 18, 2002, US District Court Judge Claire Eagan issued a ruling
that dismissed the lawsuit, saying that the suspensions (somehow) did
not violate Blackbear's civil rights. The basis of the ruling was that,
since she denied being a Wiccan, she could not be discriminated against
for being a Wiccan.

Then perhaps it should have been filed as a slander suit in state court.
--
"So there is no third law of Terrydynamics."
-- William Hyde
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
.

User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: Shcool charges student used witchcraft 02 Oct 2005 09:21:41 AM
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:26:32 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:

No 33 Secretary wrote:

lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote in
news:1128104222.575906.253000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


This is kinda old but I just saw this on the James Randi
web site, second feature.

http://www.randi.org/jr/12-08-2000.html


Any update on this five year old story?


She filed a federal lawsuit in October of 2000, claiming that her two
suspensions based on her interest in Wicca amounted to religious
discrimination and that, as a result, her constitutional rights had been
violated.

On July 18, 2002, US District Court Judge Claire Eagan issued a ruling
that dismissed the lawsuit, saying that the suspensions (somehow) did
not violate Blackbear's civil rights. The basis of the ruling was that,
since she denied being a Wiccan, she could not be discriminated against
for being a Wiccan.

I find that hard to understand. She was discriminated against, and
the reason was given was that she was Wiccan. Whether she was or not
does not change the act or the motivation for the act or the injustice
of it.


That is the latest information I've seen.

Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Shcool charges student used witchcraft 02 Oct 2005 10:23:53 AM
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:21:41 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:26:32 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:

No 33 Secretary wrote:

lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote in
news:1128104222.575906.253000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


This is kinda old but I just saw this on the James Randi
web site, second feature.

http://www.randi.org/jr/12-08-2000.html


Any update on this five year old story?


She filed a federal lawsuit in October of 2000, claiming that her two
suspensions based on her interest in Wicca amounted to religious
discrimination and that, as a result, her constitutional rights had been
violated.

On July 18, 2002, US District Court Judge Claire Eagan issued a ruling
that dismissed the lawsuit, saying that the suspensions (somehow) did
not violate Blackbear's civil rights. The basis of the ruling was that,
since she denied being a Wiccan, she could not be discriminated against
for being a Wiccan.


I find that hard to understand. She was discriminated against, and
the reason was given was that she was Wiccan. Whether she was or not
does not change the act or the motivation for the act or the injustice
of it.

Christian judge. Q.E.D.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.





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