Religions > Atheism > "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris County,"
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"J Young" |
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10 Nov 2005 11:08:51 PM |
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"She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris County," |
This headline could have easily been about the closing of the local abortion
mill. Maybe Andrea Yates should take her cue from Planned Parenthood; have
the ACLU represent her and claim she was only exercising her "Freedom of
Choice", albeit retroactively.
http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-11-09T232314Z_01_SPI960173_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-YATES.xml
Texas child-killer Yates will have second trial
HOUSTON (Reuters) - Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five
children in 2001, will face a second trial after the state's highest
criminal court refused on Wednesday to reinstate the murder convictions
against her.
The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals upheld a lower appeals court's ruling
issued in January that overturned jury verdicts against Yates because of
errors in the testimony of an expert witness.
Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal said he would try Yates
again as soon as possible. "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do
that in Harris County," he said.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 08:16:30 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:03:49 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Don Kresch lied:
In alt.atheism On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
And the baby has rights; a fetus does not.
And you can't rationally explain why there is a
distinction.
Because only one is legally defined as a person, liar.
No, that's false, as you would have known if you had
read the whole post before replying, instead of flying
off the handle and hysterically reacting; see below
about the woman's FEELINGS about the fetus, and its
magical acquisition of LEGAL PERSONHOOD if the pregnant
woman wants it.
I meant, liar, that you can't rationally and coherently
explain why there *OUGHT* to be a distinction. Legal
definitions alone won't cut it.
The fetus is inside
a being which does have rights, namely: the woman. Her womb. Her body.
Her life. Her choice. That's it.
No, I'm afraid it's not that simple.
Here's where we are today, donny-boy. If you drive
your car negligently and strike and kill a pregnant
woman on the way to an appointment with her ob/gyn, and
she intends to have the baby, you're guilty of *two*
counts of manslaughter. But if she's on her way to the
abortion clinic instead, you're only guilty of *one*
count of manslaughter.
How is it, donny-boy, that the pregnant woman's
FEELINGS about the fetus magically confer "rights" on
the fetus, such that you can be guilty of manslaughter
by killing it?
That plainly is a moral and legal NONSENSE, donny-boy.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 06:14:10 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 07:46:55 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 08:06:08 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:46:55 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it. Try to be
less dishonest next time. I know it's difficult for you because you're
an anti-abortionist, but at least try.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 08:12:03 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:46:55 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
Why do *you* view the human fetus as morally less
deserving of protection than a newborn baby, chrissie?
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 12:12:29 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:46:55 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Show the statute or STFU.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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13 Nov 2005 10:51:33 AM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:46:55 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 11:59:37 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:46:55 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't, wankstain. I accept your admission that
your claims of abortion being murder are not only false, but lies.
What IS it about the anti-choice idiots coming out of the woodwork
lately?
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 03:39:17 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:46:55 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:10:46 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:53:39 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Ray Fischer lied:
You are in no position to tell any woman what she may or may not do
with her own body.
Yes, I am. At present, the law is such that a woman
may get an abortion on demand.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You're a stupid liar.
A woman 8-months pregnant cannot get an
abortion, on demand or otherwise. A woman 5 months pregnant cannot
simply demand an abortion. Not even a woman 6-week pregnant can
simply demand an abortion and expect to get one.
Yes, a woman six weeks pregnant can simply waltz in off
the street, flush a living human being from inside her,
You're lying again.
No. They're not lies.
Why do you imagine it is a human being rather than something with the
potential to become one?
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and it
clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip. A five
day old human baby also only has the *potential* to
become a mentally and morally competent adult human
being, but it unquestionably would be murder to kill it.
Please cite the statute of the US code which describes abortion as
murder.
Murder is defined at the state level. Anyway, I said
that it would unquestionably be murder to kill a five
day old human baby. Try to pay attention next time.
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 03:58:02 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
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Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't. Give it up. If your responses had any morality
therein you wouldn't feel the need to lie when you write them.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:14:08 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Moral views enter into lots of aspects of politics.
For example, it is the consensus moral view of citizens
that we don't let destitute people starve to death;
that same consensus moral view also dictates that we
don't provide destitute people with filet mignon,
caviar and champagne.
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:29:31 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
No, liar. You have to accept that it is opnly murder in your deluded
imagination.
Moral views enter into lots of aspects of politics.
For example, it is the consensus moral view of citizens
that we don't let destitute people starve to death;
that same consensus moral view also dictates that we
don't provide destitute people with filet mignon,
caviar and champagne.
And they don't make it murder, liar.
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
No, liar. It is not murder. THAT is just how it is, liar.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:41:35 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
No,
Yes, chrissie.
Moral views enter into lots of aspects of politics.
For example, it is the consensus moral view of citizens
that we don't let destitute people starve to death;
that same consensus moral view also dictates that we
don't provide destitute people with filet mignon,
caviar and champagne.
And they don't make it murder
At present, feticide is not legally murder. That could
change, and I'm working to change it.
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
No,
Yes, chrissie. That is just how it is.
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13 Nov 2005 04:48:14 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:41:35 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
At present, feticide is not legally murder. That could
change, and I'm working to change it.
What's "feticide", lia?
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
No,
Yes, chrissie. That is just how it is.
No, liar. YOUR WAPRPED "MORALITY" DOES NOT MAKE LAW - YOUR
"MORALITY" MAKES YOU INTO A BAREFACED LIAR.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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13 Nov 2005 06:48:07 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:41:35 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
At present, feticide is not legally murder. That could
change, and I'm working to change it.
What's "feticide",
Killing a fetus.
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
No,
Yes, chrissie. That is just how it is.
No, liar
Yes, chrissie. Morality underlies lots of legislation,
and that's just how it is.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 06:56:11 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:48:07 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:41:35 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
At present, feticide is not legally murder. That could
change, and I'm working to change it.
What's "feticide",
Killing a fetus.
It's a word you made up, liar.
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
No,
Yes, chrissie. That is just how it is.
No, liar
Yes, chrissie. Morality underlies lots of legislation,
and that's just how it is.
Your so-called morality which enables you to to lie about others, and
make unmarked snips to hide what you have been repeatedly told, still
doesn't make it murder, liar.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:00:05 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:48:07 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:41:35 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
At present, feticide is not legally murder. That could
change, and I'm working to change it.
What's "feticide",
Killing a fetus.
It's a word you made up
No.
feticide
SYLLABICATION: fe·ti·cide
PRONUNCIATION: ft-sd
NOUN: Intentional destruction of a human fetus.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/27/F0092700.html
There you go, chrissie. I await your retraction.
Forget your tired, discredited nostrum "you can't
legislate morality". No one is suggesting that we
legislate morality, but morality most certainly *does*
inform quite a lot of legislation. THAT is just how it is.
No,
Yes, chrissie. That is just how it is.
No, liar
Yes, chrissie. Morality underlies lots of legislation,
and that's just how it is.
Your so-called morality
Is sound.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:29:28 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope. Anyone who has to lie to proclaim the 'morality' of their
thoughts is neither moral, nor thinking.
The best you've been able to do is flat-out lie. That's neither
intelligent nor convincing - you wouldn't even make a good White House
spokesperson.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:40:28 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 05:30:39 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in news:whPdf.8746$m81.6347
@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
you blame your lies on your "moral views?"
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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13 Nov 2005 06:48:39 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
you blame your lies
I haven't lied, jimmie.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:04:06 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in news:H9Rdf.9039$AS6.3122
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
you blame your lies on your "moral views?"
I haven't lied
you just did, again, as well as run away from the question.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:05:22 PM |
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jimmie g. keegan jr. stupidly lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
you blame your lies on your "moral views?"
I haven't lied
you just did
No. Stop lying, jimmie.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:07:09 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in news:mpRdf.9051$AS6.844
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
jimmie g. keegan jr. stupidly lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
you blame your lies on your "moral views?"
I haven't lied
you just did, again, as well as run away from the question.
No.
your own words condemn you.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:43:33 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't. You're a liar, even in the face of established, obvious
facts. You can't be trusted. Moreover, you're obviously not very
intelligent, as evidenced by your inability to learn.
You are neither moral nor correct. Learn to deal with it. Since you
cannot apply your 'morals' to yourself as you try to apply them to
others, you are actually amoral, at best.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 06:47:19 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:28:57 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:19 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
No, because your moral views are not consistent, internally or
otherwise. You don't have morals, as evidenced by your whining about
people snipping your posts contrasted with your predilection to do the
same thing.
That, and your willingness to flat-out lie.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:29:44 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:19 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
No,
Yes.
That's just how it is. You have to accept it.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:40:13 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:29:44 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:19 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
No,
Yes.
That's just how it is. You have to accept it.
Nope. Your so-called 'morals' have nothing to offer a person of even
moderate intelligence and integrity. They're irrelevant, as are you.
Like I said, nobody gives a sweet ***** what your moral feelings are.
They're far overshadowed by your moral failings.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:54:25 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:29:44 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:19 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
No,
Yes.
That's just how it is. You have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes, Adam. You *do* have to accept it. You can't shut
me up, and you can't prevent me from participating.
That's just how it is.
Your so-called 'morals'
Are a part of this. You're just going to have to
accept it.
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