Religions > Atheism > "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris County,"
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"J Young" |
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10 Nov 2005 11:08:51 PM |
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"She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris County," |
This headline could have easily been about the closing of the local abortion
mill. Maybe Andrea Yates should take her cue from Planned Parenthood; have
the ACLU represent her and claim she was only exercising her "Freedom of
Choice", albeit retroactively.
http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-11-09T232314Z_01_SPI960173_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-YATES.xml
Texas child-killer Yates will have second trial
HOUSTON (Reuters) - Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five
children in 2001, will face a second trial after the state's highest
criminal court refused on Wednesday to reinstate the murder convictions
against her.
The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals upheld a lower appeals court's ruling
issued in January that overturned jury verdicts against Yates because of
errors in the testimony of an expert witness.
Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal said he would try Yates
again as soon as possible. "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do
that in Harris County," he said.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 08:02:34 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:54:25 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:29:44 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:19 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
No,
Yes.
That's just how it is. You have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes, Adam. You *do* have to accept it.
No, actually, I don't. You're irrelevant. Your moral views are
meaningless.
See how easy that was?
You can't shut
me up, and you can't prevent me from participating.
That's just how it is.
Wrong. Your participation is meaningless because your claims are
meaningless.
Your so-called 'morals'
Are a part of this. You're just going to have to
accept it.
Nope. Your morals have no bearing, since they have no compass. They,
like you, are meaningless. You'll just have to learn to accept that,
although given your evident lack of intelligence I suppose that it'll
take some time.
Your views became meaningless when you demonstrated that you can only
back them up by deliberately lying.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 08:05:32 PM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:54:25 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:29:44 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:19 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:14:08 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:17 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your 'moral' views, aren't,
They are. See my response to liar chrissie lee.
No, they aren't.
They are. You're just going to have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes. My moral views do enter into it. That's just how
it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. My moral views will be part of the debate,
and quite likely part of the conclusion.
No,
Yes.
That's just how it is. You have to accept it.
Nope.
Yes, Adam. You *do* have to accept it.
No, actually, I don't.
Actually, Adam, you little *****-ant, you do. Bon apetit.
You can't shut
me up, and you can't prevent me from participating.
That's just how it is.
Wrong.
No, RIGHT. I'm participating, and I intend to
continue, particularly seeing the extent to which it
has you pissing your panties.
Your so-called 'morals'
Are a part of this. You're just going to have to
accept it.
Nope.
Yep.
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 08:14:16 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:05:32 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
[snip]
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
Nope. All that you've shown proves that you base your morals on what
are self-evidently and obviously lies.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
14 Nov 2005 12:23:34 AM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:05:32 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
Nope.
Yep. You can ***** now, Adam. You're just taking a
***** in public now; not a contribution. ***** now.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
14 Nov 2005 08:12:58 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:23:34 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:05:32 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
Nope.
Yep. You can ***** now, Adam. You're just taking a
***** in public now; not a contribution. ***** now.
I have a better idea - why don't you crawl back into your shithole,
and come back when you think you can contribute like a real person
instead of a retarded chimp?
I figure that should give us weeks without you, a situation that can
only raise the average intelligence of the posters on Usenet.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
14 Nov 2005 09:56:20 AM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:23:34 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:05:32 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
Nope.
Yep. You can ***** now, Adam. You're just taking a
***** in public now; not a contribution. ***** now.
I have a better idea
No, you don't have any good ideas. Just *****.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
14 Nov 2005 10:14:40 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:56:20 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:23:34 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:05:32 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
Nope.
Yep. You can ***** now, Adam. You're just taking a
***** in public now; not a contribution. ***** now.
I have a better idea
No, you don't have any good ideas. Just *****.
Like I said, if you think you can find a way to accomplish that, do
so. Otherwise, why don't you be under the next bus? Do everyone a
favour.
OTOH, you *are a useful poster-boy for the wacko right. Keep it up.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
14 Nov 2005 10:35:11 AM |
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Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:56:20 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:23:34 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Adam H. lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:05:32 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
[snip]
Your morals have no bearing,
They do, Adam; they do.
Nope.
Yep. You can ***** now, Adam. You're just taking a
***** in public now; not a contribution. ***** now.
I have a better idea
No, you don't have any good ideas. Just *****.
Like I said
No, like *I* said: *****, Adam.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
14 Nov 2005 10:27:31 PM |
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S. Maizlich <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Yep. You can ***** now, Adam. You're just taking a
***** in public now; not a contribution. ***** now.
There's the whine of a control freak who cannot tolerate disobedience.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 11:57:11 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
But thank you for admitting you were lying when you called it murder.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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13 Nov 2005 03:39:16 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:27:39 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:16 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
You're not sorry, and you're still wrong. Your "moral views" supercede
statute law, how?
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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13 Nov 2005 04:36:12 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:16 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
You *are* wrong. Because you have been contaminated
with bad ideas of moral relativism, you think "moral"
is a dirty word. But morality underlies *lots* of
social values - for instance, the idea that we don't
tolerate blatant bigotry.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 05:31:24 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in
news:wdPdf.8741$m81.5682@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
you think your lies are polite?
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 06:48:55 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
you think your lies
I haven't lied, jimmie.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:04:49 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in news:X9Rdf.9040$AS6.1379
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
you think your lies are polite?
I haven't lied
you just did, as well as run away from the question.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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13 Nov 2005 07:07:29 PM |
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jimmie g. keegan jr. stupidly lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
you think your lies are polite?
I haven't lied
you just did
I haven't lied. Stop lying, jimmie.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 07:09:28 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in news:lrRdf.9054$AS6.7769
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
jimmie g. keegan jr. stupidly lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
james g. keegan jr. lied:
"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
you think your lies are polite?
I haven't lied
you just did, as well as run away from the question.
I haven't lied.
you just did, as well as run away from the question.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 04:45:04 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:36:12 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:16 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
Hardly. Why not just be honest instead of lying?
I'll remind you that you lied about abortion being murder, and you
lies when you told people they were pro-abortion.
You *are* wrong. Because you have been contaminated
with bad ideas of moral relativism, you think "moral"
You're the only one contaminated, liar. By religious delusion.
We know all about your so-called morality: that it turns you into a
liar.
is a dirty word. But morality underlies *lots* of
social values - for instance, the idea that we don't
But your so-called morality does not turn abortion into murder, liar.
tolerate blatant bigotry.
The only bigotry is yours, which makes you lie about those less
ignorant.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 06:47:50 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:36:12 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:16 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
Hardly.
Very much, but I expect it's casting pearls before swine.
You *are* wrong. Because you have been contaminated
with bad ideas of moral relativism, you think "moral"
You're the only one contaminated
No, chrissie.
is a dirty word. But morality underlies *lots* of
social values - for instance, the idea that we don't
But your so-called morality does not turn abortion into murder
It isn't solely my morality, chrissie.
tolerate blatant bigotry.
The only bigotry is
that of the pro-abortion gaggle.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 06:54:10 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:50 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:36:12 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:16 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
Hardly.
Very much, but I expect it's casting pearls before swine.
Compunding your lies with nastiness.
You *are* wrong. Because you have been contaminated
with bad ideas of moral relativism, you think "moral"
You're the only one contaminated
No, chrissie.
By your brainwashing, liar.
is a dirty word. But morality underlies *lots* of
social values - for instance, the idea that we don't
But your so-called morality does not turn abortion into murder
It isn't solely my morality, chrissie.
So what, moron? It still doesn't turn it into murder, liar.
tolerate blatant bigotry.
The only bigotry is
that of the pro-abortion gaggle.
Pretends the in-your-face dishonest liar. There is no such thing
outside your deluded imagination.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
13 Nov 2005 06:59:48 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:47:50 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:36:12 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:39:16 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:51:33 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
Nobody gives a sweet ***** what your so-called 'moral' feelings are.
Not my feelings, asswipe; my moral views.
Your "moral views" are irelevant to anybody but yourself.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The some sort of consensus of
individual moral views comprise societal values.
That's just how it is, and you don't seriously deny it
*except* when you don't like the consensus.
You're not sorry,
Not terribly. I was trying to be polite.
Hardly.
Very much, but I expect it's casting pearls before swine.
Compunding your lies
No lies.
You *are* wrong. Because you have been contaminated
with bad ideas of moral relativism, you think "moral"
You're the only one contaminated
No, chrissie.
By your brainwashing
I haven't engaged in any brainwashing, chrissie,
neither as a perpetrator nor victim.
is a dirty word. But morality underlies *lots* of
social values - for instance, the idea that we don't
But your so-called morality does not turn abortion into murder
It isn't solely my morality, chrissie.
So what
So, it is emerging as a democratically determined
social consensus, chrissie.
tolerate blatant bigotry.
The only bigotry is
that of the pro-abortion gaggle.
Pretends
No pretense, chrissie.
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12 Nov 2005 08:21:16 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
So what? Where's the law that says it is murder.
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
No, you didn't.
Why do *you* view the human fetus as morally less
deserving of protection than a newborn baby, chrissie?
What part of SOMETHING WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A HUMAN BEING are
you pretending you don't understand, *****?
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:34:06 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
So what? Where's the law that says it is murder.
If the woman intends to have the baby and you kill the
woman and the fetus, you can be convicted for two
homicides. This is an absurdity in the law: it says
that if the woman wants it to develop into a baby that
she will bear, then it is human and has rights; if she
doesn't want it, then it's just a lump of cells.
That's indefensible.
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
I haven't lied about anyone.
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
No, you didn't.
Yes, chrissie, I did. Now stop lying. You asked your
question, and I replied:
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and
it clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip.
A five day old human baby also only has the
*potential* to become a mentally and morally
competent adult human being, but it unquestionably
would be murder to kill it.
You WHIFFED OFF from the part about the fetus being
genetically complete, chrissie; why?
Why do *you* view the human fetus as morally less
deserving of protection than a newborn baby, chrissie?
What part of SOMETHING WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A HUMAN BEING are
you pretending you don't understand, *****?
I see you didn't have it within you to be civil for
more than one post, chrissie.
The fetus *IS* a human being, chrissie. As I said,
it's not a turnip or a goldfish. It's 100% genetically
complete as a developing human being, chrissie. You're
still WHIFFING OFF from the question, chrissie: why do
you view the fetus as less deserving of protection than
the newborn? A newborn cannot fend for itself,
chrissie, any more than a fetus can do.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:36:25 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:34:06 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
So what? Where's the law that says it is murder.
If the woman intends to have the baby and you kill the
woman and the fetus, you can be convicted for two
homicides. This is an absurdity in the law: it says
that if the woman wants it to develop into a baby that
she will bear, then it is human and has rights; if she
doesn't want it, then it's just a lump of cells.
That's indefensible.
And how is this a law that describes abortion as murder?
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
I haven't lied about anyone.
Then you admit you lied by calling abortion murder. But yes, you have
also lied about those who don't see it as murder.
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
No, you didn't.
Yes, chrissie, I did. Now stop lying. You asked your
question, and I replied:
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and
it clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip.
A five day old human baby also only has the
*potential* to become a mentally and morally
competent adult human being, but it unquestionably
would be murder to kill it.
You WHIFFED OFF from the part about the fetus being
genetically complete, chrissie; why?
Why do *you* view the human fetus as morally less
deserving of protection than a newborn baby, chrissie?
What part of SOMETHING WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A HUMAN BEING are
you pretending you don't understand, *****?
I see you didn't have it within you to be civil for
more than one post, chrissie.
The fetus *IS* a human being, chrissie. As I said,
it's not a turnip or a goldfish. It's 100% genetically
complete as a developing human being, chrissie. You're
still WHIFFING OFF from the question, chrissie: why do
you view the fetus as less deserving of protection than
the newborn? A newborn cannot fend for itself,
chrissie, any more than a fetus can do.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:40:28 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:34:06 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
So what? Where's the law that says it is murder.
If the woman intends to have the baby and you kill the
woman and the fetus, you can be convicted for two
homicides. This is an absurdity in the law: it says
that if the woman wants it to develop into a baby that
she will bear, then it is human and has rights; if she
doesn't want it, then it's just a lump of cells.
That's indefensible.
And how is this a law that describes abortion as murder?
I didn't say it was, chrissie. I intended to show that
*sometimes*, killing a fetus is murder. It is morally
and legally indefensible that the pregnant woman's
*feelings* about the fetus are what determine if it is
a rights-holding human being or not.
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
I haven't lied about anyone.
Then you admit you lied by calling abortion murder.
No. I told you: that's how I view it morally.
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
No, you didn't.
Yes, chrissie, I did. Now stop lying. You asked your
question, and I replied:
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and
it clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip.
A five day old human baby also only has the
*potential* to become a mentally and morally
competent adult human being, but it unquestionably
would be murder to kill it.
You WHIFFED OFF from the part about the fetus being
genetically complete, chrissie; why?
WHY did you whiff off, chrissie, and then why did you
lie and say I didn't answer your question with an
eminently reasonable answer? Why are you so dishonest
and generally unethical, chrissie?
Why do *you* view the human fetus as morally less
deserving of protection than a newborn baby, chrissie?
What part of SOMETHING WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A HUMAN BEING are
you pretending you don't understand, *****?
I see you didn't have it within you to be civil for
more than one post, chrissie.
The fetus *IS* a human being, chrissie. As I said,
it's not a turnip or a goldfish. It's 100% genetically
complete as a developing human being, chrissie. You're
still WHIFFING OFF from the question, chrissie: why do
you view the fetus as less deserving of protection than
the newborn? A newborn cannot fend for itself,
chrissie, any more than a fetus can do.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 08:57:01 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:34:06 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
So what? Where's the law that says it is murder.
If the woman intends to have the baby and you kill the
woman and the fetus, you can be convicted for two
homicides. This is an absurdity in the law: it says
that if the woman wants it to develop into a baby that
she will bear, then it is human and has rights; if she
doesn't want it, then it's just a lump of cells.
That's indefensible.
And how is this a law that describes abortion as murder?
I didn't say it was, chrissie. I intended to show that
*sometimes*, killing a fetus is murder. It is morally
and legally indefensible that the pregnant woman's
*feelings* about the fetus are what determine if it is
a rights-holding human being or not.
No, you didn't. You called abortion murder.
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
I haven't lied about anyone.
Then you admit you lied by calling abortion murder.
No. I told you: that's how I view it morally.
No. You called it murder. Show the legal statutes which define it as
such.
And you lied about people who don't view it as murder whan you called
them pro-abortion.
Lying about somebody is hardlt going to bring them round to your way
of thinking, is it?
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
No, you didn't.
Yes, chrissie, I did. Now stop lying. You asked your
question, and I replied:
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and
it clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip.
A five day old human baby also only has the
*potential* to become a mentally and morally
competent adult human being, but it unquestionably
would be murder to kill it.
You WHIFFED OFF from the part about the fetus being
genetically complete, chrissie; why?
WHY did you whiff off, chrissie, and then why did you
lie and say I didn't answer your question with an
eminently reasonable answer? Why are you so dishonest
and generally unethical, chrissie?
Why do you lie, liar?
It is a red herring on your part.
A cancer is genetically a human being.
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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12 Nov 2005 09:25:58 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:40:28 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:34:06 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Christopher A. Lee lied:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:03 GMT, "S. Maizlich"
<s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> helpfully contributed:
Then show the statutes in the various states which describe abortion
as murder, because that's what you have been calling it.
That's how I view it morally.
So what? Where's the law that says it is murder.
If the woman intends to have the baby and you kill the
woman and the fetus, you can be convicted for two
homicides. This is an absurdity in the law: it says
that if the woman wants it to develop into a baby that
she will bear, then it is human and has rights; if she
doesn't want it, then it's just a lump of cells.
That's indefensible.
And how is this a law that describes abortion as murder?
I didn't say it was, chrissie. I intended to show that
*sometimes*, killing a fetus is murder. It is morally
and legally indefensible that the pregnant woman's
*feelings* about the fetus are what determine if it is
a rights-holding human being or not.
No, you didn't.
"No, you didn't"? That's not a sensible reply to what
I wrote about a woman's feelings being the determinant
of whether or not killing a fetus is legally murder,
chrissie. Try again.
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
I haven't lied about anyone.
Then you admit you lied by calling abortion murder.
No. I told you: that's how I view it morally.
No. You called it murder.
That's how I view it morally, and how I feel it ought
to be viewed legally.
And you lied about people who don't view it as murder whan you called
them pro-abortion.
I didn't lie about anyone, chrissie. They *are*
pro-abortion.
You asked me a question, chrissie, and I answered it.
You asked, "Why do you imagine it is a human being
rather than something with the potential to become
one?" And I gave you a good and complete answer. Then
you whiffed off; not good.
No, you didn't.
Yes, chrissie, I did. Now stop lying. You asked your
question, and I replied:
Because it is genetically complete as a human, and
it clearly will not become a goldfish or a turnip.
A five day old human baby also only has the
*potential* to become a mentally and morally
competent adult human being, but it unquestionably
would be murder to kill it.
You WHIFFED OFF from the part about the fetus being
genetically complete, chrissie; why?
WHY did you whiff off, chrissie, and then why did you
lie and say I didn't answer your question with an
eminently reasonable answer? Why are you so dishonest
and generally unethical, chrissie?
Why do you lie,
I don't, chrissie. But you do; why?
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13 Nov 2005 02:33:29 PM |
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"S. Maizlich" <s.e.maizlisch@utaa.eduu> wrote in
news:anydf.8414$m81.482@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
I didn't lie about anyone, chrissie.
you sound like johnny on crack.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: "She killed a bunch of kids, and you don't do that in Harris |
12 Nov 2005 09:08:25 PM |
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In article <ocadn1t547k8q1sih2ph1rrp5k79cmb1pc@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
Try to be less dishonest next time.
I haven't been at all dishonest.
Calling a legal medical proccedure murder, for starters, and then
lyina about those who don't.
I haven't lied about anyone.
Then you admit you lied by calling abortion murder.
No. I told you: that's how I view it morally.
No. You called it murder. Show the legal statutes which define it as
such.
And you lied about people who don't view it as murder whan you called
them pro-abortion.
Lying about somebody is hardlt going to bring them round to your way
of thinking, is it?
He is like most of the Right Wing - dishonest. He calls it "murder"
and then claims is it "morally murder" (whatever that means) because he
wants people to equate it with legal murder. Dishonest - as always.
(Osprey does that exact same thing with "pro-abortion" and has tried,
and failed, to float that argument for years.)
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