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Date: 24 Sep 2007 08:08:23 PM
Object: Sheesh! Another religious idiot.
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atheist@home#1554
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 26 Sep 2007 06:00:41 PM
On Sep 24, 8:08 pm,
wrote:

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atheist@home#1554
Sheesh! Another religious idiot.

You sound surprised - you didn't know they go in flocks?! In fact,
they're so numerous that they're flocking everything up.
Budikka
.

User: "Eris"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 24 Sep 2007 08:15:35 PM
On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,
wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554

Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 24 Sep 2007 11:29:19 PM
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.

The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not
cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what
Jews believe... This is what Hindus believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if
there is no effort to force or persuade them to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him
to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed
homework, a blank sheet of paper.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "Kenneth Doyle"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 24 Sep 2007 11:39:41 PM
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in
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I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking
him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.

Did you get any response after that?
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 05:15:57 PM
"Kenneth Doyle" <nobody@notmail.com> wrote in message
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in
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I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking
him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Did you get any response after that?

He told me that his 'homework' had been accepted, but I got no reply from
the school.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "Kenneth Doyle"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 08:25:02 PM
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in
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I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework,
asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Did you get any response after that?


He told me that his 'homework' had been accepted, but I got no reply
from the school.

heh, good show! Hopefully they'll think twice before assuming that
everyone else shares their delusion.
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User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 01:48:31 PM
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:z80Ki.53015$rr5.6972@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...


"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190682935.856141.123260@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.

Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!
What are you afraid of, Smiler?
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 05:39:08 PM
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not
cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what
Jews believe... This is what Hindus believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if
there is no effort to force or persuade them to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking
him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed
homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?

I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 06:21:52 PM
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190682935.856141.123260@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?

Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?
THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 26 Sep 2007 05:50:54 PM
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion,
not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is
what Jews believe... This is what Hindus believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if
there is no effort to force or persuade them to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking
him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed
homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?


Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?

THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.

Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments, just invective.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 01:47:32 PM
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190682935.856141.123260@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade
them to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?


Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?

THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.


Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments, just invective.

OMG, Smiler, and you think that you are an 'intelligent' human being?
Man, I am going to fucking puke!
Anyway, Smiler, you are brainwashing your own flesh and blood, and it is funny
how you see nothing wrong with what you have done, in order to 'save' your 'precious
little one' from the 'poison' which 'dwells' inside of them theists' minds. LOL!
Now, be an atheist hypocrite, and start talking about God's existence/nonexistence,
and try to hide the oh so obvious fact that YOU have brainwashed your little 'precious' one,
by not letting him decide whether he/she really wants to write an assignment about God.
You guys think you are something 'better' than them theists? Just take a long and hard look
at yourself, Smiler.
And don't be a *****.
THINK!
And make an objective conslusion. IF your age 'allows' you such a 'commodity'.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 08:41:07 PM
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...

atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This
has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion,
not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is
what Jews believe... This is what Hindus believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe,
if there is no effort to force or persuade them to take up that
belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework,
asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?


Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?

THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.


Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments, just invective.


OMG, Smiler, and you think that you are an 'intelligent' human being?

Man, I am going to fucking puke!

Anyway, Smiler, you are brainwashing your own flesh and blood, and it is
funny
how you see nothing wrong with what you have done, in order to 'save' your
'precious
little one' from the 'poison' which 'dwells' inside of them theists'
minds. LOL!

Now, be an atheist hypocrite, and start talking about God's
existence/nonexistence,
and try to hide the oh so obvious fact that YOU have brainwashed your
little 'precious' one,
by not letting him decide whether he/she really wants to write an
assignment about God.

You guys think you are something 'better' than them theists? Just take a
long and hard look
at yourself, Smiler.

And don't be a *****.

THINK!

And make an objective conslusion. IF your age 'allows' you such a
'commodity'.

As I wrote above "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments,
just invective."
QED
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 04 Oct 2007 09:32:06 PM
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:T8DLi.4154$Qd2.2099@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...


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And don't be a *****.

THINK!

And make an objective conslusion. IF your age 'allows' you such a 'commodity'.


As I wrote above "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments, just invective."

Such a character you are, Smiler. When backed up in a corner, you run.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 05 Oct 2007 09:10:06 PM
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And don't be a *****.

THINK!

And make an objective conslusion. IF your age 'allows' you such a
'commodity'.


As I wrote above "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no
arguments, just invective."


Such a character you are, Smiler. When backed up in a corner, you run.

Where have I run to, DeMented?
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 09 Oct 2007 11:24:59 AM
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And don't be a *****.

THINK!

And make an objective conslusion. IF your age 'allows' you such a 'commodity'.


As I wrote above "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments, just invective."


Such a character you are, Smiler. When backed up in a corner, you run.


Where have I run to, DeMented?

Dunno. Wherever you need to, or want to. Your choice.
.




User: "Martin Phipps"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 09:20:37 PM
On Sep 30, 2:47 am, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:


THINK!

de_menezes is telling somebody else to think. I see no evidence hat
he has ever done any thinking himself. Now THIS is hypocrisy!
Martin
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 04 Oct 2007 09:32:46 PM
"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191118837.246398.288700@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 30, 2:47 am, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:


THINK!


de_menezes is telling somebody else to think. I see no evidence hat
he has ever done any thinking himself.

Well, it must because you're stupid, Martin.

Now THIS is hypocrisy!

Learned it from the best; people like you, Martin.
Enjoy your meal.
.




User: "Martin Phipps"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 26 Sep 2007 10:23:48 PM
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?


Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?

THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.

He's already done some thinking. Now it's your turn to try.
Martin
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 01:48:08 PM
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?


Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?

THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.


He's already done some thinking. Now it's your turn to try.

Martin, let Smiler speak for himself. What are you, his lawyer?
Go and pull your head from your arse, Martin.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 08:42:27 PM
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atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This
has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need
to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also
install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion,
not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is
what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe,
if there is no effort to force or persuade them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework,
asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


I'm not afraid of any god(s) of any sort, unlike you.
How could I be afraid of something that doesn't exist?
Are you afraid of leprechauns?


Geezlouise, aren't you oh so stupid, 'Smiler', heh?

THINK again. Maybe you'll get it next time.


He's already done some thinking. Now it's your turn to try.


Martin, let Smiler speak for himself. What are you, his lawyer?

Go and pull your head from your arse, Martin.

As I wrote earlier "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments,
just invective."
QED
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 03 Oct 2007 09:47:24 AM
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He's already done some thinking. Now it's your turn to try.


Martin, let Smiler speak for himself. What are you, his lawyer?

Go and pull your head from your arse, Martin.


As I wrote earlier "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no arguments, just invective."

Says someone who had the nerve to brainwash his child.
WOW, what a character you really are, Smiler.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 03 Oct 2007 09:22:55 PM
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He's already done some thinking. Now it's your turn to try.


Martin, let Smiler speak for himself. What are you, his lawyer?

Go and pull your head from your arse, Martin.


As I wrote earlier "Oh, but I do get it - you're a moron with no
arguments, just invective."


Says someone who had the nerve to brainwash his child.

WOW, what a character you really are, Smiler.

QED
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.







User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 05:21:01 PM
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?

Not thinking, something you are very good at.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 25 Sep 2007 06:21:02 PM
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On Sep 25, 7:48 pm, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!

What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.

Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly that... not thinking.
Errrrm, you were saying 'Lucifer'?
.
User: "Martin Phipps"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 26 Sep 2007 10:22:46 PM
On Sep 26, 7:21 am, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.


Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly that... not thinking.

Which is exactly why atheists do not fill their children's minds with
religious lies.
Martin
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 01:42:39 PM
"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1190863366.126531.237630@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.


Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly that... not thinking.


Which is exactly why atheists do not fill their children's minds with
religious lies.

But they (atheists) force their own oppinions onto them (their children), like Smiler. For example.
And don't be a hypcritical *****, 'Martin', trying to insert that this particular 'case' is about
whether God exists or not. What we're dealing here (and mind you, Smiler ran away and never
came back with his reply... guess he knows he was wrong on several 'levels') is a 'case' where
an atheist parent is brainwashing his own flesh and blood, by not letting him write about God.
Of course, I am aware of Smiler's 'predicament'. The 'school' obviously 'believes in God', and
he doesn't want 'his little precious' to be 'poisoned' by those 'evil theists'. Ok, I can dig that.
BUT, on the other hand, taking his assignment from him, and 'sending a blank paper' with a
note that says 'we don't believe in God' is a clear example of how parents tend to shapeshift
opinions of their own kids.
And look at you guys... 'standing on Smiler's side' JUST because y'all believe in same things.
Now, please, will 'someone' come and speak to me about 'being mature', 'rational' and 'intelligent'/
And how those nice 'things' come 'with age'?
You guys (atheists) are no different than those 'idiotic' theists.
THEREIN lies the problem.
Not 'within' the question whether God exists or not.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 29 Sep 2007 08:38:45 PM
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

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atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This
has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need
to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also
install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative
religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This
is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others
believe, if there is no effort to force or persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework,
asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.


Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly
that... not thinking.


Which is exactly why atheists do not fill their children's minds with
religious lies.


But they (atheists) force their own oppinions onto them (their children),
like Smiler. For example.

If he ever asks me if there is a god, I will give him my opinion (he hasn't
yet and he's 22). Not forcing, just telling.
As we rarely discuss the existence or non-existence of any gods in our
household, how could I be forcing my opinions on him?
We have never told him 'Don't believe'. We show, by our actions, that
atheism is a more valid a way of life than theism.

And don't be a hypcritical *****, 'Martin', trying to insert that this
particular 'case' is about
whether God exists or not. What we're dealing here (and mind you, Smiler
ran away and never
came back with his reply... guess he knows he was wrong on several
'levels')

Nope, I'm right on any level. ISP problems have caused my temporary absence.
is a 'case' where

an atheist parent is brainwashing his own flesh and blood, by not letting
him write about God.

How is not telling your child about mythical, non-existent gods
"brainwashing".
Have you told your children about each and every one of the thousands of
gods mankind has believed in?
If you've omitted to tell them about just one of those gods, then by your
argument, you've brainwashed them.
I did let him describe how he saw *his* god...a blank sheet of paper.
If he had seen *his* god in any other way, then he was free to describe
that, without any coercion of any sort.

Of course, I am aware of Smiler's 'predicament'. The 'school' obviously
'believes in God',

No. Read what I wrote. The 'School' teaches comparitive religion without
indoctrination or brainwashing.
and

he doesn't want 'his little precious' to be 'poisoned' by those 'evil
theists'.

See above.

Ok, I can dig that.

Nope. Just pointing out to the teacher that atheists exist and have no
god(s) to describe.
Describe the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
Would a blank sheet of paper (with a covering, explanatory letter) be an
appropriate answer from you?

BUT, on the other hand, taking his assignment from him, and 'sending a
blank paper' with a
note that says 'we don't believe in God' is a clear example of how
parents tend to shapeshift
opinions of their own kids.

Sorry, but when my kid comes to me and tells me that he cannot do his
homework because *he* has no image of any god(s) to describe, and that he
will be punished for not doing that homework, I give him some help.
If his teacher is so presumptious to assume that every child in the class is
a theist, that's her fault, not his.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
.
User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 30 Sep 2007 06:09:43 AM
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On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

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atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or
persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.


Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly that... not thinking.


Which is exactly why atheists do not fill their children's minds with
religious lies.


But they (atheists) force their own oppinions onto them (their children), like Smiler. For example.


If he ever asks me if there is a god, I will give him my opinion (he hasn't yet and he's 22). Not forcing, just
telling.
As we rarely discuss the existence or non-existence of any gods in our household, how could I be forcing my opinions
on him?
We have never told him 'Don't believe'.

Wait, wait, wait... your kid is 22 years old, and you took his assignment,
and sent him to school with a blank paper and a note how 'in this hosehold
we don't believe in God'???

We show, by our actions, that atheism is a more valid a way of life than theism.

So, here we are. So you guys (atheists) actually do believe that you are 'better'
than theists? WOW!

And don't be a hypcritical *****, 'Martin', trying to insert that this particular 'case' is about
whether God exists or not. What we're dealing here (and mind you, Smiler ran away and never
came back with his reply... guess he knows he was wrong on several 'levels')


Nope, I'm right on any level. ISP problems have caused my temporary absence.

That's not what I meant. You did 'reply', but addressed my 'taunt' in form of
'what are you scared of' in a funny and dumb way, which only shows how you
have misinterpreted my 'taunt', Smiler.

is a 'case' where

an atheist parent is brainwashing his own flesh and blood, by not letting him write about God.


How is not telling your child about mythical, non-existent gods "brainwashing".

Let him decide.

Have you told your children about each and every one of the thousands of gods mankind has believed in?

Nope, I don't have any, but when I 'get' one, I'll let him think for himself.
Sure, we can debate later on when his opinions are formed, but I won't
at any time influence his views.

If you've omitted to tell them about just one of those gods, then by your argument, you've brainwashed them.

There is only one God. Get that thru your thick atheist head, atheist.

I did let him describe how he saw *his* god...a blank sheet of paper.

So it was his decision to return a blank paper? Why then:
"> I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.

I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper."

YOU did object, and YOU have sent back a fucking LETTER in which you were 'explaining' a few things,
and on top of that... YOU 'completed' his homework in form of a blank sheet of paper.
Now, sorry, Smiler... you were saying?

If he had seen *his* god in any other way, then he was free to describe that, without any coercion of any sort.

May be, may be... but judging by what you have done, Smiler, I find it hard to believe.

Of course, I am aware of Smiler's 'predicament'. The 'school' obviously 'believes in God',


No. Read what I wrote. The 'School' teaches comparitive religion without indoctrination or brainwashing.

Ok.

and

he doesn't want 'his little precious' to be 'poisoned' by those 'evil theists'.


See above.

Awwwh, goddamnit Smiler, I was joking. Jeez... OK!

Ok, I can dig that.


Nope. Just pointing out to the teacher that atheists exist and have no god(s) to describe.

Well then, WRITE IT DOWN! Let your 22yr old 'baby' do that. Wtf, Smiler?

Describe the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
Would a blank sheet of paper (with a covering, explanatory letter) be an appropriate answer from you?

No. If I were a teacher, and I decided to give my students assignment to do a
'Invisible Pink Unicorn' 'descripiton', and if one of them returned a blank sheet
of paper + an explanatory LETTER FROM HIS PARENT(s), he'd get an F.
As matter of fact, I'd call the parents in for a little chat.

BUT, on the other hand, taking his assignment from him, and 'sending a blank paper' with a
note that says 'we don't believe in God' is a clear example of how parents tend to shapeshift
opinions of their own kids.


Sorry, but when my kid comes to me and tells me that he cannot do his homework because *he* has no image of any god(s)
to describe, and that he will be punished for not doing that homework, I give him some help.

Well, why didn't you tell him to write that down?

If his teacher is so presumptious to assume that every child in the class is a theist, that's her fault, not his.

Awwwh, it seems to me that you, as his/hers parent, were just 'protecting' him.
Awwwh. Well, IMHO Smiler, you should have let him to write down anything
he or she wants. Whether it would be about God, about his lack of belief in God...
INSTEAD, you 'took' over. And wrote a 'letter'. In which you 'explained' a few
things to that 'presumptious' teacher.
WOW!
I guess I will be a 'bad' parent.
LMAO!
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User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 30 Sep 2007 06:20:48 PM
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atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools.
This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We
need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to
understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also
install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative
religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This
is what Jews believe... This is what Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others
believe, if there is no effort to force or
persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework,
asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his
completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.


Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly
that... not thinking.


Which is exactly why atheists do not fill their children's minds with
religious lies.


But they (atheists) force their own oppinions onto them (their
children), like Smiler. For example.


If he ever asks me if there is a god, I will give him my opinion (he
hasn't yet and he's 22). Not forcing, just
telling.
As we rarely discuss the existence or non-existence of any gods in our
household, how could I be forcing my opinions
on him?
We have never told him 'Don't believe'.


Wait, wait, wait... your kid is 22 years old, and you took his assignment,
and sent him to school with a blank paper and a note how 'in this hosehold
we don't believe in God'???

You eem tobe under the impression that this incident happened yesterday.
It was about 10 years ago, idiot.


We show, by our actions, that atheism is a more valid a way of life than
theism.


So, here we are. So you guys (atheists) actually do believe that you are
'better'
than theists? WOW!

Yes.


And don't be a hypcritical *****, 'Martin', trying to insert that this
particular 'case' is about
whether God exists or not. What we're dealing here (and mind you, Smiler
ran away and never
came back with his reply... guess he knows he was wrong on several
'levels')


Nope, I'm right on any level. ISP problems have caused my temporary
absence.


That's not what I meant. You did 'reply', but addressed my 'taunt' in form
of
'what are you scared of' in a funny and dumb way, which only shows how you
have misinterpreted my 'taunt', Smiler.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were, for once, arguing
sensibly. Obviously I was wrong.


is a 'case' where

an atheist parent is brainwashing his own flesh and blood, by not
letting him write about God.


How is not telling your child about mythical, non-existent gods
"brainwashing".


Let him decide.

How does one do that without brainwashing or indoctrination?
He knew full well that some people believe in non-exitent mythical gods and
we didn't.


Have you told your children about each and every one of the thousands of
gods mankind has believed in?


Nope, I don't have any, but when I 'get' one, I'll let him think for
himself.
Sure, we can debate later on when his opinions are formed, but I won't
at any time influence his views.

You'll bring him up without any beliefs until he's able to decide for
himself?
That's exactly what we've done with our children.

If you've omitted to tell them about just one of those gods, then by your
argument, you've brainwashed them.


There is only one God. Get that thru your thick atheist head, atheist.

There are thousands of mythical gods. Just because *you* believe in only one
(or is it three?) of them doesn't mean that others don't believe in them.
They are just as real to their believers as your's is/are to you.
There are no gods of any kind. Get that through your thick theist head,
theist.


I did let him describe how he saw *his* god...a blank sheet of paper.


So it was his decision to return a blank paper? Why then:

"> I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking
him to describe how he saw his god.

I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed
homework, a blank sheet of paper."


YOU did object, and YOU have sent back a fucking LETTER in which you were
'explaining' a few things,
and on top of that... YOU 'completed' his homework in form of a blank
sheet of paper.

How do you "complete" a blank sheet of paper?
Which of us "completed" it?
He took the letter into school himself, with his "completed" homework.


Now, sorry, Smiler... you were saying?

If he had seen *his* god in any other way, then he was free to describe
that, without any coercion of any sort.


May be, may be... but judging by what you have done, Smiler, I find it
hard to believe.

I'm not responsible for your incredulity.


Of course, I am aware of Smiler's 'predicament'. The 'school' obviously
'believes in God',


No. Read what I wrote. The 'School' teaches comparitive religion without
indoctrination or brainwashing.


Ok.

and

he doesn't want 'his little precious' to be 'poisoned' by those 'evil
theists'.


See above.


Awwwh, goddamnit Smiler, I was joking. Jeez... OK!

Sounded more like one of your usual insults to me.


Ok, I can dig that.


Nope. Just pointing out to the teacher that atheists exist and have no
god(s) to describe.


Well then, WRITE IT DOWN! Let your 22yr old 'baby' do that. Wtf, Smiler?

What 22 year old still goes to school?
Sorry. I forgot that you probably still do.
Did I say this happened yesterday, or even recently?
It happened about 10 years ago, moron.


Describe the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
Would a blank sheet of paper (with a covering, explanatory letter) be an
appropriate answer from you?


No. If I were a teacher, and I decided to give my students assignment to
do a
'Invisible Pink Unicorn' 'descripiton', and if one of them returned a
blank sheet
of paper + an explanatory LETTER FROM HIS PARENT(s), he'd get an F.

As matter of fact, I'd call the parents in for a little chat.

So you believe that people can actually SEE an invisible object.
Follows, as you believe you can see an invisible, non-existent mythical
being.
You haven't the intelligence to be a teacher.


BUT, on the other hand, taking his assignment from him, and 'sending a
blank paper' with a
note that says 'we don't believe in God' is a clear example of how
parents tend to shapeshift
opinions of their own kids.


Sorry, but when my kid comes to me and tells me that he cannot do his
homework because *he* has no image of any god(s)
to describe, and that he will be punished for not doing that homework, I
give him some help.


Well, why didn't you tell him to write that down?

"Describe how you see your god"...No god, so no description necessary, hence
a blank sheet of paper.


If his teacher is so presumptious to assume that every child in the class
is a theist, that's her fault, not his.


Awwwh, it seems to me that you, as his/hers parent, were just 'protecting'
him.
Awwwh. Well, IMHO Smiler, you should have let him to write down anything
he or she wants. Whether it would be about God, about his lack of belief
in God...

Then that wouldn't have been an answer to the question, "Describe how you
see your god".
That would have been an answer to a different question, for which I would
have given him an 'F', if I were his teacher.


INSTEAD, you 'took' over. And wrote a 'letter'. In which you 'explained' a
few
things to that 'presumptious' teacher.

WOW!

I guess I will be a 'bad' parent.

If you ever make it that far.
You have to be attractive to someone (anyone) of the opposite sex for that.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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User: "de_menezes"

Title: Re: Sheesh! Another religious idiot. 01 Oct 2007 10:31:10 AM
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On Sep 26, 7:21 am, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Sep 25, 7:48 pm, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:

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"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1190682935.856141.123260@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 24, 9:08 pm,

wrote:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529...


atheist@home#1554


Europe has mandatory religion and religious study in schools. This has
resulted in the lowest percent of believers in the world. We need to
give up on teaching evolution and force our students to understand
creationism and the bible before it is to late. We must also install
mandatory prayer in the school three times a day. This should
eradicate religion in this country in a couple of generations.


The mandatory religious education in the UK is comparative religion, not cretinism and the babble.
The form the classes take is:
This is what Xians believe....This is what Muslims believe...This is what Jews believe... This is what
Hindus
believe...etc.
I have no objection to my children being taught what others believe, if there is no effort to force or
persuade
them
to take up that belief.
I did object when one of my sons was set an essay for homework, asking him to describe how he saw his god.
I sent back a letter explaining that we were atheists and his completed homework, a blank sheet of paper.


Brainwashing atheist doctrine at it's best!


What are you afraid of, Smiler?


Not thinking, something you are very good at.


Yeah, 'Lucifer'. Telling your kid what to do and think is exactly that... not thinking.


Which is exactly why atheists do not fill their children's minds with
religious lies.


But they (atheists) force their own oppinions onto them (their children), like Smiler. For example.


If he ever asks me if there is a god, I will give him my opinion (he hasn't yet and he's 22). Not forcing, just
telling.
As we rarely discuss the existence or non-existence of any gods in our household, how could I be forcing my opinions
on him?
We have never told him 'Don't believe'.


Wait, wait, wait... your kid is 22 years old, and you took his assignment,
and sent him to school with a blank paper and a note how 'in this hosehold
we don't believe in God'???


You eem tobe under the impression that this incident happened yesterday.
It was about 10 years ago, idiot.

So, ok. I got the timing wrong, but that still doesn't make you right, Smiler.
And I know you are aware of that fact. If you're not, you ain't nothing better
than those crazy christian parents ad 'Camp Jesus'.

We show, by our actions, that atheism is a more valid a way of life than theism.


So, here we are. So you guys (atheists) actually do believe that you are 'better'
than theists? WOW!


Yes.

Cardinal mistake.

And don't be a hypcritical *****, 'Martin', trying to insert that this particular 'case' is about
whether God exists or not. What we're dealing here (and mind you, Smiler ran away and never
came back with his reply... guess he knows he was wrong on several 'levels')


Nope, I'm right on any level. ISP problems have caused my temporary absence.


That's not what I meant. You did 'reply', but addressed my 'taunt' in form of
'what are you scared of' in a funny and dumb way, which only shows how you
have misinterpreted my 'taunt', Smiler.


I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were, for once, arguing sensibly. Obviously I was wrong.

No, you were right, but not you have changed your mind, because it is obvious
that you have purposefully influenced the thinking process of your child.
And that makes you the same as those nutty christian crazed parents, Smiler,
and you, just like them, have the nerve to think of yourself as something 'better'
than them.
Fucking people. They hide behind their 'views' and 'opinions', but underneath
it all, they are all the same.
And you, Smiler (as an atheist), do fit that description. I guess your views and
personal opinions are way more important to your decaying 'flesh-vessel', than
the truth of it all.
How... human, I'd say.

is a 'case' where

an atheist parent is brainwashing his own flesh and blood, by not letting him write about God.


How is not telling your child about mythical, non-existent gods "brainwashing".


Let him decide.


How does one do that without brainwashing or indoctrination?

Well, I guess you don't know.

He knew full well that some people believe in non-exitent mythical gods and we didn't.

Yes, YOU, his parents. And I guess parents have the tendency to 'shape'
minda of their children. Any way they wish. Christians do it their way, and you
atheists do it your way.
And somehow, by some kind of fucking MAGIC, you guys think that you are
any better than them; 'nutty christians'.

Have you told your children about each and every one of the thousands of gods mankind has believed in?


Nope, I don't have any, but when I 'get' one, I'll let him think for himself.
Sure, we can debate later on when his opinions are formed, but I won't
at any time influence his views.


You'll bring him up without any beliefs until he's able to decide for himself?

I will tell him the truth about both theism and atheism. Of course, when he ask