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08 Dec 2004 11:20:03 AM |
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Shocking Nativity Scene? |
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index.html
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08 Dec 2004 04:48:04 PM |
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"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index
.html
Obviously a serious parody by Tussaud's. Why else would they have
"Tony Blair, George W. Bush and the Duke of Edinburgh star as The Three
Wise Men."
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "johac" |
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09 Dec 2004 01:05:43 AM |
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In article <Xns95B9B491AED8Awodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index
.html
Obviously a serious parody by Tussaud's. Why else would they have
"Tony Blair, George W. Bush and the Duke of Edinburgh star as The Three
Wise Men."
Bush one of the wise men? I would have cast him as the donkey.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Which raises the question: Can a people that believes more fervently
in theVirgin Birth than in evolution still be called an Enlightened
nation?-Garry Wills, New York Times 11/04/04
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| User: "Woden" |
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09 Dec 2004 06:51:45 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-FD4546.23054308122004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95B9B491AED8Awodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm
not sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/in
dex .html
Obviously a serious parody by Tussaud's. Why else would they have
"Tony Blair, George W. Bush and the Duke of Edinburgh star as The
Three Wise Men."
Bush one of the wise men? I would have cast him as the donkey.
Still a bit too complementary for my taste...
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "johac" |
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10 Dec 2004 12:12:29 AM |
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In article <Xns95BAC994B757Awodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-FD4546.23054308122004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95B9B491AED8Awodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm
not sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/in
dex .html
Obviously a serious parody by Tussaud's. Why else would they have
"Tony Blair, George W. Bush and the Duke of Edinburgh star as The
Three Wise Men."
Bush one of the wise men? I would have cast him as the donkey.
Still a bit too complementary for my taste...
Perhaps then, he could be the hay, after the donkey gets finished with
it.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Which raises the question: Can a people that believes more fervently
in theVirgin Birth than in evolution still be called an Enlightened
nation?-Garry Wills, New York Times 11/04/04
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| User: "Woden" |
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10 Dec 2004 06:29:53 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-356571.22122909122004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95BAC994B757Awodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-FD4546.23054308122004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95B9B491AED8Awodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that.
I'm not sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut
/in dex .html
Obviously a serious parody by Tussaud's. Why else would they have
"Tony Blair, George W. Bush and the Duke of Edinburgh star as The
Three Wise Men."
Bush one of the wise men? I would have cast him as the donkey.
Still a bit too complementary for my taste...
Perhaps then, he could be the hay, after the donkey gets finished with
it.
No argument...:-)
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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08 Dec 2004 01:26:15 PM |
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"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index.html
LOL! That's hilarious :)
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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08 Dec 2004 12:44:07 PM |
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"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index.html
That's funny as hell! :-)
What a cast!
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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08 Dec 2004 01:00:09 PM |
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Dave wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index.html
A nude nativity?
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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08 Dec 2004 05:02:00 PM |
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Tukla Ratte wrote:
Dave wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index.html
A nude nativity?
Stuffed dogs.
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Apes bad! Dust good!
Apes bad! Dust good!
21st Century American Christianity
in a nutshell.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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09 Dec 2004 12:52:40 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:02:00 -0500, wbarwell
<wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
A nude nativity?
Stuffed dogs.
"Would they do the same thing for a depiction of a major event in the
Muslim faith?" he asked.
Of course not! There would be riots in the streets lol
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08 Dec 2004 03:09:48 PM |
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Dave wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index.html
I think the Archbishop of Canterbury's response is fits my reaction pretty well,
and is amusingly British, too.
"There is a tradition of each generation trying to re-interpret the Nativity
but, oh dear ...,"
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in
the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary,
self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition
of tyranny." - James Madison, _The Federalist_, #47
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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09 Dec 2004 06:56:24 PM |
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In article <1102526403.313650.304290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
galt_57@hotmail.com says...
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
David Beckham as Joseph... mmmm... Like to see him mounted on a camel
anytime. Or mounted anywhere, for that matter, just as long as he got
mounted. Muahahah.... Now _that_ would be my kinda' nativity scene.
;-DDDDD
Hmmnn... Yes, I can see it now. A "nativity scene" which in reality
turns out to be an ad for Trojan condoms.
<We see a couple in the dark of night sillhouetted against the moon - a
summaric event occurs in which they find their one room at the inn>
Joseph: "Man, is my ***** sore?"
Mary: "_Your_ *****!"
Joseph (petting donkey as he helps Mary down): "I was talking to the
donkey. C'mere, Buttercup, have some nice hay and relax..."
Mary: "Speaking of hay, I know I'm gettin' close and all, but three-
thousand miles on the back of a donkey's made me surprisingly..."
<pause> "...'unvirginal'... if you know what I mean..."
Joseph (approaching Mary & taking her in his arms): "Hmmnn... I think I
do..."
<A whinnying horse comes crashing through the straw doors of the hut as
Joseph & Mary step back in shock>
Mary: "What the...?"
Joseph: "What is the meaning of this?"
Trojan Man: "Oh, holey night, fair virgin ma'am and soon-to-be heavenly
studmuffin! If this virgin birth is supposed to be purely a _VIRGIN_
birth, you'd best use *protection*!"
<dramatic music, a glowing, celestial hand enters the picture bearing one
Trojan condom>
Joseph: "But of course! I should have thought... How can the Son of
Man be sacred & pure covered in the very-earthly seed of some mortal
lowlife such as myself? I feel like such an *****!"
Donkey (offended): "Grunt... <snort>"
Angelic voice: "Now there can be peace on Earth..."
Trojan Man: "And _you_, my lad, can have a 'piece of her'..."
Both: <laughter>
Mary: "C'mere, big boy..."
Mary (holding a hand for Joseph to stop as he responds to her request):
"I was talking to the horse..."
Angel: (shocked expression)
Joseph: "Gasp!"
Horse (orgasmically): "BBBRRRRRRAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!"
<fade out>
Pfeh. David & Victoria Beckham, a "shocking" nativity indeed.
Amatuers... ;-)
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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09 Dec 2004 12:51:27 AM |
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On 8 Dec 2004 09:20:03 -0800, "Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
I think the fact that the godbots are 'shocked and apalled' says it
all... not only do they have no sense of humor, they are mentally
deranged to think they have any right to tell others what artistic
expressions they are allowed. But then fascism is no stranger to
religion.
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| User: "Kathy" |
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09 Dec 2004 07:40:56 AM |
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"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
news:ldtfr09l7s0gq42mpbchh24v6fvh082bqe@4ax.com...
On 8 Dec 2004 09:20:03 -0800, "Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
I think the fact that the godbots are 'shocked and apalled' says it
all... not only do they have no sense of humor, they are mentally
deranged to think they have any right to tell others what artistic
expressions they are allowed. But then fascism is no stranger to
religion.
Why is it so sacriligious to dress up a wax figure of Posh Spice as the
Virgin Mary, but not sacriligious to dress up little Ashley as the same
thing for the Sunday school nativity play? Were any of the people in
question Muslim or Buddist or Atheist? I mean, the Duke of Edinburgh as a
wise man - wow, really pushing the envelope there.
I'm willing to bet that many of the actual people in represented in the
display were in a school Christmas pageant at some point playing one of the
parts in the scene.
Kathy aa #1802
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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09 Dec 2004 07:59:03 AM |
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"Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:a-udnfjD6vQOyiXcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
news:ldtfr09l7s0gq42mpbchh24v6fvh082bqe@4ax.com...
On 8 Dec 2004 09:20:03 -0800, "Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
I think the fact that the godbots are 'shocked and apalled' says it
all... not only do they have no sense of humor, they are mentally
deranged to think they have any right to tell others what artistic
expressions they are allowed. But then fascism is no stranger to
religion.
Why is it so sacriligious to dress up a wax figure of Posh Spice as the
Virgin Mary, but not sacriligious to dress up little Ashley as the same
thing for the Sunday school nativity play? Were any of the people in
question Muslim or Buddist or Atheist? I mean, the Duke of Edinburgh as a
wise man - wow, really pushing the envelope there.
I'm willing to bet that many of the actual people in represented in the
display were in a school Christmas pageant at some point playing one of
the
parts in the scene.
Believe it or not, I was actually one of the wisemen in a nativity play put
on by the girl scouts! My crown came from Burger King! I think that's
hilarious :)
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| User: "johac" |
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10 Dec 2004 12:18:09 AM |
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In article <31r416F3f2lr0U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:a-udnfjD6vQOyiXcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
news:ldtfr09l7s0gq42mpbchh24v6fvh082bqe@4ax.com...
On 8 Dec 2004 09:20:03 -0800, "Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gee, I could come up with something more 'shocking' than that. I'm not
sure what would be most appropriate. ;-)
I think the fact that the godbots are 'shocked and apalled' says it
all... not only do they have no sense of humor, they are mentally
deranged to think they have any right to tell others what artistic
expressions they are allowed. But then fascism is no stranger to
religion.
Why is it so sacriligious to dress up a wax figure of Posh Spice as the
Virgin Mary, but not sacriligious to dress up little Ashley as the same
thing for the Sunday school nativity play? Were any of the people in
question Muslim or Buddist or Atheist? I mean, the Duke of Edinburgh as a
wise man - wow, really pushing the envelope there.
I'm willing to bet that many of the actual people in represented in the
display were in a school Christmas pageant at some point playing one of
the
parts in the scene.
Believe it or not, I was actually one of the wisemen in a nativity play put
on by the girl scouts! My crown came from Burger King! I think that's
hilarious :)
"And lo, there came three wise persons from the East bearing gifts of
gold, frankincense, and whoppers."
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Which raises the question: Can a people that believes more fervently
in theVirgin Birth than in evolution still be called an Enlightened
nation?-Garry Wills, New York Times 11/04/04
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10 Dec 2004 05:31:20 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-7BD6B9.22180909122004@news.giganews.com...
In article <31r416F3f2lr0U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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Believe it or not, I was actually one of the wisemen in a nativity play
put
on by the girl scouts! My crown came from Burger King! I think that's
hilarious :)
"And lo, there came three wise persons from the East bearing gifts of
gold, frankincense, and whoppers."
ROTFL! :)
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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09 Dec 2004 09:57:41 AM |
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:59:03 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Believe it or not, I was actually one of the wisemen in a nativity play put
on by the girl scouts! My crown came from Burger King! I think that's
hilarious :)
LOL... I have a very versatile repertoire. In kindergarden and school
I played a pancake, a troll, a frog... hmm... I need to talk to my
agent.
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09 Dec 2004 10:35:05 AM |
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"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:59:03 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Believe it or not, I was actually one of the wisemen in a nativity play
put
on by the girl scouts! My crown came from Burger King! I think that's
hilarious :)
LOL... I have a very versatile repertoire. In kindergarden and school
I played a pancake, a troll, a frog... hmm... I need to talk to my
agent.
LOL! A pancake?!? There's gotta be a story behind that!
Oh and in high school, I played accused witch Sarah Goode in "The Crucible".
What shocker ;)
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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09 Dec 2004 09:49:59 PM |
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:35:05 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
LOL! A pancake?!? There's gotta be a story behind that!
Well... the costume was pretty straight forward to make... it was in
kindergarden, and I was a pancake, and the other kids were dressed as
animals and running after me lol
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09 Dec 2004 10:11:20 PM |
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"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:35:05 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
LOL! A pancake?!? There's gotta be a story behind that!
Well... the costume was pretty straight forward to make... it was in
kindergarden, and I was a pancake, and the other kids were dressed as
animals and running after me lol
Goodness! Sounds like a story done by the Brothers Grimm :)
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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10 Dec 2004 02:04:22 AM |
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 23:11:20 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Goodness! Sounds like a story done by the Brothers Grimm :)
Don't quite remember, but I think it actually might be.
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09 Dec 2004 09:56:04 AM |
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:40:56 -0500, "Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com>
wrote:
Why is it so sacriligious to dress up a wax figure of Posh Spice as the
Virgin Mary, but not sacriligious to dress up little Ashley as the same
thing for the Sunday school nativity play? Were any of the people in
I'm guessing because Posh is a *****, and little Ashley is only a *****
in the making :-)
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08 Dec 2004 01:31:14 PM |
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on 08 Dec 2004 in alt.atheism, Dave dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/08/beckhams.nativity.reut/index
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The Vatican was not amused.
"This is worse than bad taste. It is cheap," an official Vatican source
told Reuters in Rome.
"You cannot use contemporary personalities as the central figures of the
Nativity ... And it becomes worse, if that were possible, if the people may
be of questionable moral standing," he added.
Of course the vatican fails to recognize the fact that their inability to
see the humor in such a display speaks vainly of the strength of their own
faith.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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08 Dec 2004 01:41:47 PM |
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"You cannot use contemporary personalities as the central figures of the
Nativity ... And it becomes worse, if that were possible, if the people may
be of questionable moral standing," he added.
What's the Vatican going to do? Issue a fatwa agaisnt Madame Tussaud's? Have
the government step in to soothe their hurt feelings? Didn't it ever occur to
them that this is part of God's plan for them?
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Those who have loved God most have loved men least." -- Colonel Robert Green
Ingersoll, 1881
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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09 Dec 2004 12:54:24 AM |
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On 08 Dec 2004 19:41:47 GMT, forlornh@aol.compost (Lord Calvert)
wrote:
What's the Vatican going to do? Issue a fatwa agaisnt Madame Tussaud's? Have
the government step in to soothe their hurt feelings? Didn't it ever occur to
them that this is part of God's plan for them?
Well, if that new law passes in Britain, they can shut it down, can't
they?
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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09 Dec 2004 12:53:55 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:31:14 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Of course the vatican fails to recognize the fact that their inability to
see the humor in such a display speaks vainly of the strength of their own
faith.
Well said. But then again, have you ever met a fundie who had a sense
of humor and was *intentionally* funny?
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on 08 Dec 2004 in alt.atheism, Rune Børsjø dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:31:14 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Of course the vatican fails to recognize the fact that their inability
to see the humor in such a display speaks vainly of the strength of
their own faith.
Well said. But then again, have you ever met a fundie who had a sense
of humor and was *intentionally* funny?
Yes, but their "wit" usually mixes atheism and satanism.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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