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"Fred Stone" |
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05 Oct 2005 10:48:35 AM |
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Shopping for Indictments |
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html
A Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S. House
Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage their felony
case against the Sugar Land Republican.
In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney Ronnie
Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to three grand
juries — not just the two they had discussed — and one grand jury
refused to indict DeLay. When questions arose about whether the state's
conspiracy statute applied to the first indictment returned last
Wednesday, prosecutors presented a new money-laundering charge to second
grand jury on Friday because the term of the initial grand jury had
expired.
Working on its last day Friday, the second grand jury refused to indict
DeLay. Normally, a "no-bill" document is available at the courthouse
after such a decision. No such document was released Tuesday.
Earle's statement on Tuesday said he took money-laundering and
conspiracy charges to a third grand jury on Monday after prosecutors
learned of new evidence over the weekend.
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer Bill
White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years and
suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
White suggested that Earle released his statement Tuesday because he
feared reporters would learn about the no-bill...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 02:57:26 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin
lawyer Bill White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate
for three years and suddenly they have new evidence? That's
beyond the pale!"
Interesting. So why did Delay feel it necessary to lie?
He claimed that he never spoke to the Grand Jury, that they
never asked him to. But not only did they ask him to, but they
said they only took as long as they did to hand down an
indictment because they were giving him the chance to appear
before them.
Why is this "innocent man" going on TV and lying?
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 12:16:50 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128527316.e5db23d5e17756b78dca5795383c8efc@teranews...
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html
A Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S. House
Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage their felony
case against the Sugar Land Republican.
In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney Ronnie
Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to three grand
juries - not just the two they had discussed - and one grand jury
refused to indict DeLay. When questions arose about whether the state's
conspiracy statute applied to the first indictment returned last
Wednesday, prosecutors presented a new money-laundering charge to second
grand jury on Friday because the term of the initial grand jury had
expired.
Working on its last day Friday, the second grand jury refused to indict
DeLay. Normally, a "no-bill" document is available at the courthouse
after such a decision. No such document was released Tuesday.
Earle's statement on Tuesday said he took money-laundering and
conspiracy charges to a third grand jury on Monday after prosecutors
learned of new evidence over the weekend.
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer Bill
White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years and
suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
White suggested that Earle released his statement Tuesday because he
feared reporters would learn about the no-bill...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
YOUR HERO'S ARE GOING DOWN.
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I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 01:00:52 PM |
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"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote in
news:3UT0f.109$vE5.14@lakeread03:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128527316.e5db23d5e17756b78dca5795383c8efc@teranews...
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html
A Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S.
House
Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage their
felony
case against the Sugar Land Republican.
In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney
Ronnie
Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to three
grand
juries - not just the two they had discussed - and one grand jury
refused to indict DeLay. When questions arose about whether the
state's
conspiracy statute applied to the first indictment returned last
Wednesday, prosecutors presented a new money-laundering charge to
second
grand jury on Friday because the term of the initial grand jury had
expired.
Working on its last day Friday, the second grand jury refused to
indict
DeLay. Normally, a "no-bill" document is available at the courthouse
after such a decision. No such document was released Tuesday.
Earle's statement on Tuesday said he took money-laundering and
conspiracy charges to a third grand jury on Monday after prosecutors
learned of new evidence over the weekend.
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer Bill
White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years and
suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
White suggested that Earle released his statement Tuesday because he
feared reporters would learn about the no-bill...
YOUR HERO'S ARE GOING DOWN.
I don't have any heroes.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
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| User: "JTEM" |
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05 Oct 2005 02:58:10 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
I don't have any heroes.
You misspelled "clues."
You're welcome.
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| User: "turk" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 01:58:34 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128535253.3d1f8a575c05af1cddb01349aa6a1b5e@teranews...
"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote in
news:3UT0f.109$vE5.14@lakeread03:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128527316.e5db23d5e17756b78dca5795383c8efc@teranews...
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html
A Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S.
House
Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage their
felony
case against the Sugar Land Republican.
In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney
Ronnie
Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to three
grand
juries - not just the two they had discussed - and one grand jury
refused to indict DeLay. When questions arose about whether the
state's
conspiracy statute applied to the first indictment returned last
Wednesday, prosecutors presented a new money-laundering charge to
second
grand jury on Friday because the term of the initial grand jury had
expired.
Working on its last day Friday, the second grand jury refused to
indict
DeLay. Normally, a "no-bill" document is available at the courthouse
after such a decision. No such document was released Tuesday.
Earle's statement on Tuesday said he took money-laundering and
conspiracy charges to a third grand jury on Monday after prosecutors
learned of new evidence over the weekend.
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer Bill
White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years and
suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
White suggested that Earle released his statement Tuesday because he
feared reporters would learn about the no-bill...
YOUR HERO'S ARE GOING DOWN.
I don't have any heroes.
He meant your gods are going down. Better?
Btw, nice argument: Delay must be innocent since only 2 out 3 Grand Juries
indicted him. Fucking brilliant display of GOP spinthink. I'm sure the
fact that Delay has been reprimanded for ethics violations THREE TIMES by
the bipartisan House Ethics Committee in unanimous votes carries no weight
to you?
turk
--
My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and
choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of
Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King
impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold
hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the
first place.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 03:13:20 PM |
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"turk" <turk96@comcast.net> wrote
Btw, nice argument: Delay must be innocent since only 2
out 3 Grand Juries indicted him. Fucking brilliant display
of GOP spinthink.
"How come we never hear about the laws he that hasn't broken?"
--John Stewart, on the Daily Show
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 02:12:03 PM |
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"turk" <turk96@comcast.net> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128535253.3d1f8a575c05af1cddb01349aa6a1b5e@teranews...
"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote in
news:3UT0f.109$vE5.14@lakeread03:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128527316.e5db23d5e17756b78dca5795383c8efc@teranews...
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html
A Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage
their felony case against the Sugar Land Republican.
In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney
Ronnie Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to
three grand juries - not just the two they had discussed - and one
grand jury refused to indict DeLay. When questions arose about
whether the state's conspiracy statute applied to the first
indictment returned last Wednesday, prosecutors presented a new
money-laundering charge to a second grand jury on Friday because
the term of the initial grand jury had expired.
Working on its last day Friday, the second grand jury refused to
indict DeLay. Normally, a "no-bill" document is available at the
courthouse after such a decision. No such document was released
Tuesday.
Earle's statement on Tuesday said he took money-laundering and
conspiracy charges to a third grand jury on Monday after
prosecutors learned of new evidence over the weekend.
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer
Bill White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years
and suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
White suggested that Earle released his statement Tuesday because
he feared reporters would learn about the no-bill...
YOUR HERO'S ARE GOING DOWN.
I don't have any heroes.
He meant your gods are going down. Better?
Btw, nice argument: Delay must be innocent since only 2 out 3 Grand
Juries indicted him. Fucking brilliant display of GOP spinthink.
I missed the part where they argued that he was innocent because of
that.
I'm sure the fact that Delay has been reprimanded for ethics
violations THREE TIMES by the bipartisan House Ethics Committee in
unanimous votes carries no weight to you?
The term is "Admonished". That's not the same as a "reprimand".
And no, it carries no weight at all in relation to his guilt or
innocence of the current indictment.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
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| User: "turk" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 02:35:05 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128539523.eade10da6cfd7b5c6cd49d874c479009@teranews...
"turk" <turk96@comcast.net> wrote in
news:G4mdnUu7P9r-v9neRVn-gA@comcast.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128535253.3d1f8a575c05af1cddb01349aa6a1b5e@teranews...
"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote in
news:3UT0f.109$vE5.14@lakeread03:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1128527316.e5db23d5e17756b78dca5795383c8efc@teranews...
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html
A Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage
their felony case against the Sugar Land Republican.
In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney
Ronnie Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to
three grand juries - not just the two they had discussed - and one
grand jury refused to indict DeLay. When questions arose about
whether the state's conspiracy statute applied to the first
indictment returned last Wednesday, prosecutors presented a new
money-laundering charge to a second grand jury on Friday because
the term of the initial grand jury had expired.
Working on its last day Friday, the second grand jury refused to
indict DeLay. Normally, a "no-bill" document is available at the
courthouse after such a decision. No such document was released
Tuesday.
Earle's statement on Tuesday said he took money-laundering and
conspiracy charges to a third grand jury on Monday after
prosecutors learned of new evidence over the weekend.
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer
Bill White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years
and suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
White suggested that Earle released his statement Tuesday because
he feared reporters would learn about the no-bill...
YOUR HERO'S ARE GOING DOWN.
I don't have any heroes.
He meant your gods are going down. Better?
Btw, nice argument: Delay must be innocent since only 2 out 3 Grand
Juries indicted him. Fucking brilliant display of GOP spinthink.
I missed the part where they argued that he was innocent because of
that.
"They" didn't. You, however, are sure trying to make that case, albeit
pathetically.
I'm sure the fact that Delay has been reprimanded for ethics
violations THREE TIMES by the bipartisan House Ethics Committee in
unanimous votes carries no weight to you?
The term is "Admonished". That's not the same as a "reprimand".
And no, it carries no weight at all in relation to his guilt or
innocence of the current indictment.
Your head is so far up your ***** it came out your mouth and went back up your
***** a second time. Delay is the ONLY House Majority Leader to be
"admonished" by the House Ethics Committee. And it happened THREE TIMES.
You don't find that indicative of guilt or improprieties? Then why did it
happen? This guy has a history of unethical behavior. Where there's smoke,
there's fire.
Come on, Fred. Even hard-core repubs are abandoning this fool of a
president and his corrupt cronies in droves. Admittedly, you dug yourself
in pretty deep by defending this idiot administration, but no one will say
"I told you so" if you just come out and admit you were wrong. Be a man.
turk
--
My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and
choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of
Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King
impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold
hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the
first place.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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05 Oct 2005 03:47:42 PM |
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"turk" <turk96@comcast.net> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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I missed the part where they argued that he was innocent because of
that.
"They" didn't. You, however, are sure trying to make that case,
albeit pathetically.
I am? I missed the part where *I* said it too.
I'm sure the fact that Delay has been reprimanded for ethics
violations THREE TIMES by the bipartisan House Ethics Committee in
unanimous votes carries no weight to you?
The term is "Admonished". That's not the same as a "reprimand".
And no, it carries no weight at all in relation to his guilt or
innocence of the current indictment.
Your head is so far up your ***** it came out your mouth and went back
up your ***** a second time. Delay is the ONLY House Majority Leader to
be "admonished" by the House Ethics Committee. And it happened THREE
TIMES. You don't find that indicative of guilt or improprieties? Then
why did it happen? This guy has a history of unethical behavior.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Oh, that's a good argument. He's done some iffy things in the past,
therefore he must be guilty of anything that he's accused of, even if
the thing he's accused of wasn't really a crime when he did it.
Come on, Fred. Even hard-core repubs are abandoning this fool of a
president and his corrupt cronies in droves.
You *wish*.
Admittedly, you dug
yourself in pretty deep by defending this idiot administration, but no
one will say "I told you so" if you just come out and admit you were
wrong. Be a man.
I don't need your advice on manhood or on politics, turk.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
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06 Oct 2005 12:30:12 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:47:42 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Your head is so far up your ***** it came out your mouth and went back
up your ***** a second time. Delay is the ONLY House Majority Leader to
be "admonished" by the House Ethics Committee. And it happened THREE
TIMES. You don't find that indicative of guilt or improprieties? Then
why did it happen? This guy has a history of unethical behavior.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Oh, that's a good argument.
This is FUNNY coming from you since the Bush administration said the
same thing about the 'smoking gun' even though they hadn't found the
WMD in Iraq....
James, Seattle
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
06 Oct 2005 02:03:02 PM |
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RainLover <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in
news:vmnak19bcbq5ve8c6m3gdrtjdflk42mn0c@4ax.com:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:47:42 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Your head is so far up your ***** it came out your mouth and went back
up your ***** a second time. Delay is the ONLY House Majority Leader
to be "admonished" by the House Ethics Committee. And it happened
THREE TIMES. You don't find that indicative of guilt or
improprieties? Then why did it happen? This guy has a history of
unethical behavior. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Oh, that's a good argument.
This is FUNNY coming from you since the Bush administration said the
same thing about the 'smoking gun' even though they hadn't found the
WMD in Iraq....
James, Seattle
And another lefty does the snip and run.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
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| User: "Frank Warner" |
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| Title: Re: Shopping for Indictments |
05 Oct 2005 12:35:13 PM |
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In article <1128527316.e5db23d5e17756b78dca5795383c8efc@teranews>, Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Lawyers for DeLay immediately called foul after Earle released his
statement after 5 p.m. Tuesday.
"What could have happened over the weekend?" said Austin lawyer Bill
White, who represents DeLay. "They investigate for three years and
suddenly they have new evidence? That's beyond the pale!"
LOL!
Makes me suddenly want to reinvestigate the existence of karma.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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