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16 Feb 2006 12:45:18 PM |
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Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
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| User: "Mark Vaughan" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
17 Feb 2006 06:01:50 PM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
I believe you meant "truculence", no?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=truculence
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Mark Vaughan
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
17 Feb 2006 06:34:51 PM |
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Mark Vaughan wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
I believe you meant "truculence", no?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=truculence
No. Triboluminescence, maybe.
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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18 Feb 2006 05:06:21 AM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140222891.264846.150120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Mark Vaughan wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
I believe you meant "truculence", no?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=truculence
No. Triboluminescence, maybe.
WTF?!
Are you just looking for buzzwords to pull out of your arse or are you
trying to make an argument, assclown?
jesus!
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 12:37:12 PM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140222891.264846.150120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Mark Vaughan wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
I believe you meant "truculence", no?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=truculence
No. Triboluminescence, maybe.
WTF?!
Are you just looking for buzzwords to pull out of your arse or are you
trying to make an argument, assclown?
Triboluminescence is a buzzword? When did this happen? Aren't you a bit
overly argumentative?
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 08:42:29 PM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140287832.757978.62460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140222891.264846.150120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Mark Vaughan wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
I believe you meant "truculence", no?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=truculence
No. Triboluminescence, maybe.
WTF?!
Are you just looking for buzzwords to pull out of your arse or are you
trying to make an argument, assclown?
Triboluminescence is a buzzword? When did this happen? Aren't you a bit
overly argumentative?
.... and thereby the troll confirms his true nature.
The assclown has nothing to say and everything posted is merely to pose
vapid questions in return.
Here's a tip;
******** TROLL***
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 07:10:12 PM |
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On 18 Feb 2006 10:37:12 -0800, "Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1140287832.757978.62460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140222891.264846.150120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Mark Vaughan wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
I believe you meant "truculence", no?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=truculence
No. Triboluminescence, maybe.
WTF?!
Are you just looking for buzzwords to pull out of your arse or are you
trying to make an argument, assclown?
Triboluminescence is a buzzword? When did this happen? Aren't you a bit
overly argumentative?
Aren't you a bit 'too much here'?
What are you trying to achieve, save making religionists look even
more objectionable than they already do?
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
16 Feb 2006 04:06:24 PM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
*****.
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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16 Feb 2006 05:54:34 PM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
*****.
Argument by authority! BZzzt!
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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17 Feb 2006 07:48:51 AM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140134074.354589.278990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
*****.
Argument by authority! BZzzt!
And you consider 'Turbulence' to be an ARGUMENT, you DUMB *****?
If you want to make a REAL argument, assclown, MAKE A REAL ARGUMENT.
Posing one-liners implies you're nothing but a fundie troll.
And if you're nothing but a fundie troll, ***** OUT OF ALT.ATHEISM,
ASSCLOWN.
You want a fight, assclown, come out fighting.
I've ***** smarter turds than you.
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 01:00:12 PM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
And you consider 'Turbulence' to be an ARGUMENT, you DUMB *****?
If you want to make a REAL argument, assclown, MAKE A REAL ARGUMENT.
Who said I want to argue? Arguing is boring.
Posing one-liners implies you're nothing but a fundie troll.
But, brevity is the soul of wit! Anyway, I elaborated a bit elsethread
and got more insults. You weren't paying attention.
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 08:25:33 PM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140289212.223574.10960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
And you consider 'Turbulence' to be an ARGUMENT, you DUMB *****?
If you want to make a REAL argument, assclown, MAKE A REAL ARGUMENT.
Who said I want to argue? Arguing is boring.
Then you're here for the abuse, then.
Posing one-liners implies you're nothing but a fundie troll.
But, brevity is the soul of wit!
No, in your case it demonstrates you're nothing but a fucking troll,
assclown.
Anyway, I elaborated a bit elsethread
and got more insults.
And they were well deserved. Your argument was fucking stupid and your
motives are contemptible.
You weren't paying attention.
I was. Hence the profound disgust and contempt at your behaviour,
assclown.
Here's the summary of my thoughts for you so far;
*****, TROLL.
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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19 Feb 2006 10:21:07 AM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
Who said I want to argue? Arguing is boring.
Then you're here for the abuse, then.
Me and everybody else.
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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22 Feb 2006 08:08:44 AM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140366067.414074.69730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
Who said I want to argue? Arguing is boring.
Then you're here for the abuse, then.
Me and everybody else.
Well, now, there you're wrong.
You just need to come at it from a different angle.
**Start out** by engaging in reasonable, clearheaded and rational
discussion or debate and you'll get a nice response in turn.
See? :-)
[this is what's known as the 'carrot and tacnuke' approach..]
jesus
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 01:53:25 PM |
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In article <1140289212.223574.10960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Posing one-liners implies you're nothing but a fundie troll.
But, brevity is the soul of wit!
Unfortunately for you, there is no soul and you have no wit.
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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17 Feb 2006 07:09:05 PM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
And you consider 'Turbulence' to be an ARGUMENT, you DUMB *****?
I think you are wound up a little too tightly. Relax.
"The purpose of FAQ documents is not to stifle debate, but to raise its
level."
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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18 Feb 2006 03:51:08 AM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140224945.516025.9570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
And you consider 'Turbulence' to be an ARGUMENT, you DUMB *****?
I think you are wound up a little too tightly. Relax.
How aboput you pull up your tent-pegs and *****, assclown?
That'd make me REAL relaxed.
"The purpose of FAQ documents is not to stifle debate, but to raise its
level."
And you think YOU'RE adding to the quality of the debate with idiotic
fundie throwaway one-liners, you dumb *****?
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeSUS!
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| User: "quibbler" |
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16 Feb 2006 06:39:24 PM |
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In article <1140134074.354589.278990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
*****.
Argument by authority! BZzzt!
Only if you consider ***** to be a personified authority figure,
which is true, in the case of your god. But we atheists are susceptible
to such delusions.
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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16 Feb 2006 06:54:53 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <1140134074.354589.278990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
*****.
Argument by authority! BZzzt!
Only if you consider ***** to be a personified authority figure,
which is true, in the case of your god. But we atheists are susceptible
to such delusions.
His name isn't '*****', it's Jesus H. Christ. And I didn't say _I_
considered him an authority figure; I only presume he considers
_himself_ one.
Also, Jesus is a Jew, but an Atheist too?
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
16 Feb 2006 08:03:33 PM |
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In article <1140137693.587275.138950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
quibbler wrote:
In article <1140134074.354589.278990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Turbulence.
*****.
Argument by authority! BZzzt!
Only if you consider ***** to be a personified authority figure,
which is true, in the case of your god. But we atheists are susceptible
to such delusions.
His name isn't '*****'
It should be though.
, it's Jesus H.
Okay, but the "H" stands for horseshit, surely.
Christ. And I didn't say _I_
considered him an authority figure; I only presume he considers
_himself_ one.
That still makes the theist, not the atheist, the one appealing to
authority.
Also, Jesus is a Jew, but an Atheist too?
Well, yes, technically, he wouldn't need faith and doesn't have to
believe, since he would know, so he might be an atheist in that sense.
As to him being a Jew, he was a pretty pathetic one.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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16 Feb 2006 01:51:06 PM |
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In article <1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Turbulence.
That might be a disproof of a perfect creator, since it shows shoddy,
chaotic workmanship in his design. The fact that there can be complex,
chaotic effects like turbulence suggests that no god is necessary for
complex order to arise.
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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16 Feb 2006 05:13:40 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Turbulence.
That might be a disproof of a perfect creator, since it shows shoddy,
chaotic workmanship in his design. The fact that there can be complex,
chaotic effects like turbulence suggests that no god is necessary for
complex order to arise.
Shoddy and chaotic aren't the same thing. Shoddy means falling apart,
but chaotic is messily creative. They are diametrically opposed. You
must be some kind of bigoted, anti-chaos extremist.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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16 Feb 2006 06:31:41 PM |
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In article <1140131620.757442.59340@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
quibbler wrote:
In article <1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Turbulence.
That might be a disproof of a perfect creator, since it shows shoddy,
chaotic workmanship in his design. The fact that there can be complex,
chaotic effects like turbulence suggests that no god is necessary for
complex order to arise.
Shoddy and chaotic aren't the same thing.
I didn't claim they were the same thing. If they were the same thing
then I wouldn't have used two separate words.
Shoddy means falling apart,
but chaotic is messily creative.
No kidding. The inferior workmanship which would be implied by a god
who intentionally and unnecessarily permitted turbulence is quite
different from the unpredictable diversity of chaos.
They are diametrically opposed.
No, they're just not strongly related in general, nor did I ever claim
they were.
You
must be some kind of bigoted, anti-chaos extremist.
You're about as wrong as you can be. I am by no means a chaos opponent,
though there are clearly some things, like political chaos, which aren't
as useful as other naturally chaotic systems.
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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16 Feb 2006 06:44:20 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <1140131620.757442.59340@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
quibbler wrote:
In article <1140115518.800699.235640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
dearcilla@gmail.com says...
Turbulence.
That might be a disproof of a perfect creator, since it shows shoddy,
chaotic workmanship in his design. The fact that there can be complex,
chaotic effects like turbulence suggests that no god is necessary for
complex order to arise.
Shoddy and chaotic aren't the same thing.
I didn't claim they were the same thing.
I didn't claim you claimed they were the same thing.
Shoddy means falling apart,
but chaotic is messily creative.
No kidding. The inferior workmanship which would be implied by a god
who intentionally and unnecessarily permitted turbulence is quite
different from the unpredictable diversity of chaos.
Well, so what? Do you think turbulence is unnecessary? I was suggesting
it is creation. Laminar flow can be simplified, but turbulence can't.
So turbulence contains more information. But turbulence occurs when
laminar flow breaks up. So the information comes 'out of nowhere'.
Now that I think of it, why couldn't one define work as mixing done by
turbulence? I know the physics definition, but consider it as an
alternative...
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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17 Feb 2006 07:54:17 AM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he just
sit around trying to make them up in advance?
Now that I think of it, why couldn't one define work as mixing done by
turbulence? I know the physics definition, but consider it as an
alternative...
How about we don't, because it's a fucking stupid idea?
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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17 Feb 2006 06:17:16 PM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he just
sit around trying to make them up in advance?
What do you know, anyway?
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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18 Feb 2006 03:53:44 AM |
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"Claude Shannon" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140221836.285166.183760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he just
sit around trying to make them up in advance?
What do you know, anyway?
That you're a fucking troll.
Quit the ***** or FOAD, assclown.
JEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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| User: "Pies de Arcilla" |
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18 Feb 2006 01:17:14 PM |
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Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Claude Shannon" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140221836.285166.183760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he just
sit around trying to make them up in advance?
What do you know, anyway?
That you're a fucking troll.
What, you're going to argue with Claude Shannon about information
theory? At least _he_ doesn't think he's _God_.
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| User: "Jesus H Christ" |
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18 Feb 2006 08:08:53 PM |
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"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140290233.962656.90830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Claude Shannon" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140221836.285166.183760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he
just sit around trying to make them up in advance?
What do you know, anyway?
That you're a fucking troll.
What, you're going to argue with Claude Shannon about information
theory? At least _he_ doesn't think he's _God_.
You're trying to invoke Shannon, you dumb *****? You're even stupider
than you seemed at first.
Dropping names doesn't win you ANY fucking credibility here.
Many of us here probably learned about information theory and channel
capacity before you were a twitch in your daddies shorts, assclown.
Don't you know that the attempts to use information theory to justify
various fucking idiotic fundie claims have all been shredded?
But DO go on, assclown. Make us laugh.
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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18 Feb 2006 07:06:24 PM |
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On 18 Feb 2006 11:17:14 -0800, "Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1140290233.962656.90830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Claude Shannon" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140221836.285166.183760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he just
sit around trying to make them up in advance?
What do you know, anyway?
That you're a fucking troll.
What, you're going to argue with Claude Shannon about information
theory? At least _he_ doesn't think he's _God_.
Which real genious are you going to denigrate next,
by dint of impersonating them?
Richard Dawkins, perhaps?
*****, Arse-sillier.
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| Title: Re: Shortest Proof of God EVAR! |
18 Feb 2006 01:54:26 PM |
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On 17 Feb 2006 16:17:16 -0800, "Claude Shannon" <dearcilla@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Jesus H Christ wrote:
"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140137060.730955.305390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
So the information
comes 'out of nowhere'.
And there you have it, the dumbest fucking statment of the post.
a) turbulence involves adding information
b) it comes out of nowhere
Does this fucking idiot just make things up on the fly or does he just
sit around trying to make them up in advance?
What do you know, anyway?
So drools the sock. ***** off.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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