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31 Aug 2006 07:05:34 PM |
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Should Pluto Stand Still... |
.... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
If observing the work done by others makes one scientist, then we are
all scientists.
YET WE KNOW THAT ONLY GOD IF THE TRUE SCIENTIST, ALL OTHERS
ARE JUST OBSERVERS OF HIS HANDY WORKS
Ah, Pluto you will always orbit in our HEARTS
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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31 Aug 2006 08:41:33 PM |
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"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in
news:1157069134.769922.184780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Never stopped. Conservation of momentum and all that. If you had studied
Noether's theorem you wouldn't have to ask:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/noether.html
If you want to have a look for yourself you will need some star charting
software, dark skies and a decent scope (proabably at least twelve inch
aperture for a novice:
http://www.stargazing.net/astropc/
An inexpensive scope that will do the job:
http://tinyurl.com/r93w4
Pluto can currently be seen in Serpens Cauda close to the Ophiuchus border.
By the time you get your scope, the moon will be a problem so you will have
to wait till the moon is well past full. Remember that Pluto is only mag
13.9 or so, you will probably need to use averted vision and verify using the
above the charting software.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>
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| User: "Hal A. Loullia" |
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31 Aug 2006 09:55:03 PM |
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"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1157069134.769922.184780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
If observing the work done by others makes one scientist, then we are
all scientists.
YET WE KNOW THAT ONLY GOD IF THE TRUE SCIENTIST, ALL OTHERS
ARE JUST OBSERVERS OF HIS HANDY WORKS
Ah, Pluto you will always orbit in our HEARTS
You're a little bit of a retard.
Have you considered joining the Republican party?
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| User: "" |
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01 Sep 2006 12:17:33 AM |
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... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
snip
Perhaps we should take up a collection to send this dumbass *to* Pluto.
http://www.ilslaunch.com/atlas/atlasv/
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Olrik" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:15:32 PM |
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wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
If observing the work done by others makes one scientist, then we are
all scientists.
YET WE KNOW THAT ONLY GOD IF THE TRUE SCIENTIST, ALL OTHERS
ARE JUST OBSERVERS OF HIS HANDY WORKS
Ah, Pluto you will always orbit in our HEARTS
Give it a rest, will ya?
Thanks.
Olrik
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:13:05 PM |
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In article <1157069134.769922.184780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> writes:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Done!
Anything else you need help with?
-- cary
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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01 Sep 2006 01:36:59 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1157069134.769922.184780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> writes:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Done!
Anything else you need help with?
Oh, yes, indeed he has.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Rune" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:33:23 PM |
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On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
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Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:37:48 PM |
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Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
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| User: "droth" |
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01 Sep 2006 12:05:09 AM |
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Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
The faggots *AND* the homosexuals? How exactly do they differ?
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| User: "gusCubed" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:50:43 PM |
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wrote:
Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, " "
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
The faggots AND homosexuals? I'm sorry, I'm a bit behind on my
hate-speak, but I always thought they were one and the same.
If the magic lord Jesus was around today do you think he'd be labelled
a 'Librul' or a right-wing reactionary?
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| User: "Cloim" |
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31 Aug 2006 08:28:58 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:50:43 -0700, gusCubed wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
The faggots AND homosexuals? I'm sorry, I'm a bit behind on my
hate-speak, but I always thought they were one and the same.
*****, or fag, is also a slang word for a cigarette.
Lot's of anti-tobacco people running around these days.
Though it is an odd way to bring it into the discussion.
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:55:04 PM |
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gusCubed wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
The faggots AND homosexuals? I'm sorry, I'm a bit behind on my
hate-speak, but I always thought they were one and the same.
If the magic lord Jesus was around today do you think he'd be labelled
a 'Librul' or a right-wing reactionary?
I am afraid I can't answer your question because there is no
right-wing
reactionary
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| User: "gusCubed" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:15:31 PM |
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wrote:
gusCubed wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
The faggots AND homosexuals? I'm sorry, I'm a bit behind on my
hate-speak, but I always thought they were one and the same.
If the magic lord Jesus was around today do you think he'd be labelled
a 'Librul' or a right-wing reactionary?
I am afraid I can't answer your question because there is no
right-wing
reactionary
I'm sorry I can't help you find a dictionary
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| User: "Rune" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:42:01 PM |
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On 31 Aug 2006 17:37:48 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
That's extremely un-Jesus-like of you. Downright satanic, in fact.
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Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 07:53:12 PM |
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Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:37:48 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
That's extremely un-Jesus-like of you. Downright satanic, in fact.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Judge not and you shall not be judged, what do you do with that
liberal?
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| User: "Rune" |
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31 Aug 2006 08:22:17 PM |
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On 31 Aug 2006 17:53:12 -0700, wrote:
Judge not and you shall not be judged, what do you do with that
liberal?
Well, first of all, it's not a real commandment. And second, I only
judged him after he judged others, so, technically, I'm still in the
graces :-)
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Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:35:27 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet
(Codebreaker@bigsecret.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Rune wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700, " "
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
... Who will make it orbit again?
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
You must be talking about Mickey's canine companion. Planets (ok ok,
dwarven planets) don't suddenly reverse course. Newtonian physics 101.
But I can see how such concepts would be confusing to someone who
thinks humanity started with two white people riding around a garden
on a bronchiosaurus.
--
Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
Liberal practice the Gospel? Yeah damn right. For the liberal
the Gospel stands in the way of their fucking freedom, how could
they practice it?
Down with the Evol-Atheists, the Liberals, the Feminists, the Faggots
and
homosexuals, down with them all
Sure thing, *****-for-brains. Down with everyone who doesn't agree with
you.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Member: Intensional misspellingg club.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:39:46 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet
(Codebreaker@bigsecret.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
... Who will make it orbit again?
More importantly, how long does it take for an idiot's thoughtwaves to
reach Pluto?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Member: Intensional misspellingg club.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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31 Aug 2006 08:32:51 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
Should Pluto decide to reverse course, who is going to stop it.
It can't. Same reason.
Should Pluto break down like a car, What "Scientist" would fix it?
It's a ball of rock and ice. No moving parts.
If observing the work done by others makes one scientist, then we are
all scientists.
Nope. Science involves the scientific method.
YET WE KNOW THAT ONLY GOD IF THE TRUE SCIENTIST, ALL OTHERS
ARE JUST OBSERVERS OF HIS HANDY WORKS
Nope. No scientific proof of gods exist.
Ah, Pluto you will always orbit in our HEARTS
It's still orbiting moron.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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31 Aug 2006 09:06:29 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Hotel Charlie One" |
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01 Sep 2006 09:37:14 AM |
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"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in
news:1157119873.257807.259040@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:46:27 -0700, Mike wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com>
posting the following on 31 Aug 2006 17:05:34 -0700 iin
alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
The earth didn't shatter when God made it stop rotating for
Joshua. But I imagine that the kinectic energy of Pluto is vastly
greater than the rotational kinectic energy of the Earth.
Um... well... see, he didn't actually stop the earth... um... he...
he spun the *universe. Yeah, that's it!
That makes sense! You are a smart guy! I must remember to consult
you on some other perplexities I have concerning the Bible. I must
confess that I find the good book very puzzling sometimes. Though I
pray and I pray, so far the Good Lord, in his Infinite Wisdom, has
not seen fit to grace me with the gift of understanding.
Tequila helps.
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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01 Sep 2006 12:19:02 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:37:14 +0000, Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in
news:1157119873.257807.259040@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
That makes sense! You are a smart guy! I must remember to consult
you on some other perplexities I have concerning the Bible. I must
confess that I find the good book very puzzling sometimes. Though I
pray and I pray, so far the Good Lord, in his Infinite Wisdom, has
not seen fit to grace me with the gift of understanding.
Tequila helps.
So, I am given to understand, does LSD.
Or going without food for three months, that would do it too.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:35:17 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:19:02 -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:37:14 +0000, Hotel Charlie One wrote:
"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in
news:1157119873.257807.259040@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
That makes sense! You are a smart guy! I must remember to consult
you on some other perplexities I have concerning the Bible. I must
confess that I find the good book very puzzling sometimes. Though I
pray and I pray, so far the Good Lord, in his Infinite Wisdom, has
not seen fit to grace me with the gift of understanding.
Tequila helps.
So, I am given to understand, does LSD.
Or going without food for three months, that would do it too.
Lose weight *and see god? Such a deal!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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31 Aug 2006 09:23:40 PM |
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In article <12ff5d5nofvf1ff@news.supernews.com>, Mark K. Bilbo
said...
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
She's gonna crash! Get that stroller out of the way!!!
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:34:48 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:11:13 -0700, Mike wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:46:27 -0700, Mike wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
The earth didn't shatter when God made it stop rotating for Joshua.
But I imagine that the kinectic energy of Pluto is vastly greater than
the rotational kinectic energy of the Earth.
Um... well... see, he didn't actually stop the earth... um... he... he
spun the *universe. Yeah, that's it!
That makes sense! You are a smart guy! I must remember to consult you
on some other perplexities I have concerning the Bible. I must confess
that I find the good book very puzzling sometimes. Though I pray and I
pray, so far the Good Lord, in his Infinite Wisdom, has not seen fit to
grace me with the gift of understanding.
One merely has to spend the time in contemplation of the scriptures. For,
is it not written, in the book of Hesitations, chapter 3, verse 14:
"And the Lord did say: 'Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!'"
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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01 Sep 2006 06:57:51 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu>
posting the following on 1 Sep 2006 05:46:27 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
The earth didn't shatter when God made it stop rotating for Joshua.
Please tell you are joking. Please.
But I imagine that the kinectic energy of Pluto is vastly greater than
the rotational kinectic energy of the Earth.
Not even close. The Earth is far more massive. Remember: KE = (mass
x velocity^2)/2 or 1/2 mv^2
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Should Pluto Stand Still... |
02 Sep 2006 12:00:20 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu>
posting the following on 1 Sep 2006 05:46:27 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
The earth didn't shatter when God made it stop rotating for Joshua.
Please tell you are joking. Please.
No. I believe every word of it, duh.
But I imagine that the kinectic energy of Pluto is vastly greater than
the rotational kinectic energy of the Earth.
Not even close. The Earth is far more massive. Remember: KE = (mass
x velocity^2)/2 or 1/2 mv^2
You are not paying attention to the physical problem at hand. Yes it
is close. Of course the Earth is more massive, but we are comparing
Pluto's ORBITAL kinetic energy with the Earth's ROTATIONAL kinetic
energy, not the Earth's orbital kinetic energy. It turns out that the
Earth's rotational kinetic energy is somewhat less than Pluto's orbital
kinetic energy, though they work out to a same order of magnitude. I
had intuitively thought that the difference would be greater than it
actually is. According to Wikipedia
Pluto: mean orbital speed=4666 m/s and mass=1.305 x 10^22 kg. We
deduce that mean orbital kinetic energy = 1.4206 x 10^29 joules.
Earth: mean orbital speed = 2978 m/s and mass=5.974 x 10^24 kg. We
deduce that mean orbital kinetic energy = 2.64 x 10^33 joules.
However, this last number is not what we want. To get rotational
kinetic energy for Earth we need to know the moment of inertial about
an axis. Recall that for a sphere of mass m and radius r and uniform
density, the moment of inertia about an axis is I = (1/5)mr^2.
Using radius r = 6.37 x 10^6 m we get moment of inertia I = 4.84 x
10^37 kg m^2. Since we can easily calculate the angular velocity omega
to be 7.292 radians/s we use E = (1/2)I omega^2 to deduce that
for Earth
rotational kinetic energy = 1.289 x 10^29 joules
As I claimed, this is less than Pluto's orbital kinetic energy, though
it is much closer than I thought it would be. Strictly speaking, this
calculation assumes constant density for Earth which is not true. The
Earth is denser closer to the center. Thus my calculation above
somewhat overestimates the moment of inertia and hence overestimates
the rotational kinetic energy. Thus the real rotational kinetic energy
is smaller than my above estimate which is already smaller than Pluto's
orbital kinetic energy. So there!
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Should Pluto Stand Still... |
02 Sep 2006 01:02:29 AM |
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Mike wrote:
Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu>
posting the following on 1 Sep 2006 05:46:27 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
The earth didn't shatter when God made it stop rotating for Joshua.
Please tell you are joking. Please.
No. I believe every word of it, duh.
But I imagine that the kinectic energy of Pluto is vastly greater than
the rotational kinectic energy of the Earth.
Not even close. The Earth is far more massive. Remember: KE = (mass
x velocity^2)/2 or 1/2 mv^2
You are not paying attention to the physical problem at hand. Yes it
is close. Of course the Earth is more massive, but we are comparing
Pluto's ORBITAL kinetic energy with the Earth's ROTATIONAL kinetic
energy, not the Earth's orbital kinetic energy. It turns out that the
Earth's rotational kinetic energy is somewhat less than Pluto's orbital
kinetic energy, though they work out to a same order of magnitude. I
had intuitively thought that the difference would be greater than it
actually is. According to Wikipedia
Pluto: mean orbital speed=4666 m/s and mass=1.305 x 10^22 kg. We
deduce that mean orbital kinetic energy = 1.4206 x 10^29 joules.
Earth: mean orbital speed = 2978 m/s and mass=5.974 x 10^24 kg. We
deduce that mean orbital kinetic energy = 2.64 x 10^33 joules.
However, this last number is not what we want. To get rotational
kinetic energy for Earth we need to know the moment of inertial about
an axis. Recall that for a sphere of mass m and radius r and uniform
density, the moment of inertia about an axis is I = (1/5)mr^2.
Using radius r = 6.37 x 10^6 m we get moment of inertia I = 4.84 x
10^37 kg m^2. Since we can easily calculate the angular velocity omega
to be 7.292 radians/s we use E = (1/2)I omega^2 to deduce that
for Earth
Just noticed bad typo. Angular velocity for Earth's rotation is 7.292
x 10^(-5) radians/s not 7.292 raidians/s. I used the correct number in
my calculations but typed it wrong when I posted the above.
rotational kinetic energy = 1.289 x 10^29 joules
As I claimed, this is less than Pluto's orbital kinetic energy, though
it is much closer than I thought it would be. Strictly speaking, this
calculation assumes constant density for Earth which is not true. The
Earth is denser closer to the center. Thus my calculation above
somewhat overestimates the moment of inertia and hence overestimates
the rotational kinetic energy. Thus the real rotational kinetic energy
is smaller than my above estimate which is already smaller than Pluto's
orbital kinetic energy. So there!
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| User: "Hal A. Loullia" |
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| Title: Re: Should Pluto Stand Still... |
03 Sep 2006 04:02:20 PM |
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"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in message
news:1157176949.220541.259410@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Mike wrote:
Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu>
posting the following on 1 Sep 2006 05:46:27 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:32:51 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 31 Aug 2006
17:05:34 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
... Who will make it orbit again?
It cannot stop. The energy required would shatter the planet.
No brakes! No brakes!!!
The earth didn't shatter when God made it stop rotating for Joshua.
Please tell you are joking. Please.
No. I believe every word of it, duh.
But I imagine that the kinectic energy of Pluto is vastly greater than
the rotational kinectic energy of the Earth.
Not even close. The Earth is far more massive. Remember: KE = (mass
x velocity^2)/2 or 1/2 mv^2
You are not paying attention to the physical problem at hand. Yes it
is close. Of course the Earth is more massive, but we are comparing
Pluto's ORBITAL kinetic energy with the Earth's ROTATIONAL kinetic
energy, not the Earth's orbital kinetic energy. It turns out that the
Earth's rotational kinetic energy is somewhat less than Pluto's orbital
kinetic energy, though they work out to a same order of magnitude. I
had intuitively thought that the difference would be greater than it
actually is. According to Wikipedia
Pluto: mean orbital speed=4666 m/s and mass=1.305 x 10^22 kg. We
deduce that mean orbital kinetic energy = 1.4206 x 10^29 joules.
Earth: mean orbital speed = 2978 m/s and mass=5.974 x 10^24 kg. We
deduce that mean orbital kinetic energy = 2.64 x 10^33 joules.
However, this last number is not what we want. To get rotational
kinetic energy for Earth we need to know the moment of inertial about
an axis. Recall that for a sphere of mass m and radius r and uniform
density, the moment of inertia about an axis is I = (1/5)mr^2.
Using radius r = 6.37 x 10^6 m we get moment of inertia I = 4.84 x
10^37 kg m^2. Since we can easily calculate the angular velocity omega
to be 7.292 radians/s we use E = (1/2)I omega^2 to deduce that
for Earth
Just noticed bad typo. Angular velocity for Earth's rotation is 7.292
x 10^(-5) radians/s not 7.292 raidians/s. I used the correct number in
my calculations but typed it wrong when I posted the above.
rotational kinetic energy = 1.289 x 10^29 joules
As I claimed, this is less than Pluto's orbital kinetic energy, though
it is much closer than I thought it would be. Strictly speaking, this
calculation assumes constant density for Earth which is not true. The
Earth is denser closer to the center. Thus my calculation above
somewhat overestimates the moment of inertia and hence overestimates
the rotational kinetic energy. Thus the real rotational kinetic energy
is smaller than my above estimate which is already smaller than Pluto's
orbital kinetic energy. So there!
This science ***** is *****, stop it now.
God would disapprove.
Arrest these astronomers right now.
Next they'll tell us the Bible is a mostly fictional work of man.
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