Religions > Atheism > Should Saddam Be Reinstated In Power Since No Weapon Of Mass Instruction Was Found?
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17 Oct 2004 05:08:18 PM |
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Should Saddam Be Reinstated In Power Since No Weapon Of Mass Instruction Was Found? |
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
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17 Oct 2004 05:12:13 PM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
.... Removing Saddam was pretty much the one action anyone can claim WASN'T a
mistake.
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: Should Saddam Be Reinstated In Power Since No Weapon Of Mass Instruction Was Found? |
17 Oct 2004 08:15:56 PM |
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Schism <NO_SPAM_4_ME@blegger.com> wrote in message
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass
destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate
Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
... Removing Saddam was pretty much the one action anyone can claim WASN'T
a
mistake.
Except for George Bush Sr. and Colin Powell, and in fact just about everyone
in the American government back when Saddam was at his most dangerous.
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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| Title: Re: Should Saddam Be Reinstated In Power Since No Weapon Of Mass Instruction Was Found? |
17 Oct 2004 06:50:45 PM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Capturing Saddam is about the only thing that has gone right about the whole
Iraq mess.
By the way, just because someone's against unjustified wars based on lies
doesn't make them an "*****." Thank you very much Duped.
Raptor514
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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17 Oct 2004 05:33:14 PM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
That would be silly.
And I'm not an *****, I'm a *****.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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17 Oct 2004 11:09:19 PM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Yet another lie, from a stupid moterfucker.
Back in my killfile, dumbass.
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-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Should Saddam Be Reinstated In Power Since No Weapon Of Mass Instruction Was Found? |
18 Oct 2004 01:24:29 AM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
You must be a knee jerk republican ***** with ***** for brains. One
doesn't follow the other and if that is the only possibility you can
comprehend then please, do the world a favour and have a vasectomy, we don't
need you passing on your stupid genes.
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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17 Oct 2004 05:51:17 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) writes:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Since Saddam Hussein is planning to run in the upcoming Iraqi
democratic elections from his jail cell, what should happen
if he wins?
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14658207&method=full&siteid=106694&headline=saddam--vote-me-in-as-your-president-name_page.html
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "VincentJames nowhere@noplace" |
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17 Oct 2004 05:56:59 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) wrote in
news:bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass
destruction was found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate
Saddam in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's
mistake?
Geez, what a great idea! Betcha Saddam could bring some old fashion law and
order to Iraq. ***** he can't kill anymore people there than Bush has.
Let's get to work on it.
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| User: "Patrick Powers" |
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17 Oct 2004 10:06:55 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) wrote in message news:<bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com>...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Actually the US was better off with Saddam in power. He suppressed
all opposition, fought Iran, and delivered the oil. And it didn't
cost the US a cent.
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| User: "Patrick Powers" |
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17 Oct 2004 10:08:03 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) wrote in message news:<bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com>...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Oh yeah, I forgot. Saddam had a better record at catching terrorists
than Bush does.
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: Should Saddam Be Reinstated In Power Since No Weapon Of Mass Instruction Was Found? |
17 Oct 2004 08:17:24 PM |
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Not-easily-duped <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:bbba7302.0410171408.2620fde2@posting.google.com...
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
No, why not just do what Gerald Ford did, issue a blanket pardon so that
Iraq may heal its national wounds.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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18 Oct 2004 09:41:12 AM |
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Not-easily-duped wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Nobody thinks a mass murderer should be returned to power.
You seem yto nbe a nasty, hate filled right winger with a brain full of
*****.
No Liberals want Saddam back.
But who was it supported Saddam all those years? Reagan, Bush
and the GOP Hooise and Senate.
Who was it kept signing presidentian finidings Saddam did not support
terrorism so he could import anthrax and botulaism cultures?
Reagan and Bus.
You far right ***** monkies didn't care.
You did not care when Rumnmsfeld showed up
in Iraq weeks after Saddam murdered whole villages with gas
to glad hand Saddam and cut business deals with him.
Sadam was murdering people long ago when Reagan abnd
Bush supported him and you far right freaks did not care.
But Reagan and Bush supported Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge at this time and you
didn't care about that eithr.
Or supporting the genocodal Guatemalan dictator Rios Montt.
Or El Salavador's D'Aubisson, a death squad leader, or Pinochet.
Right wingers habve been supporting insane murderers and genocidal bastrtds
for 24 years now.
Just don't care.
And now, you squawl lies about Saddam and liberals?
Where were you ***** monkies whenBush and Reagan slobbered over Saddam and
allowed him to import biochenmical weaponery and dual use materiuals?
Nowhere to be seen.
Bluntly, if restoring Saddam would put $$$ into pockets of
Halliburton and other American corporations, Bush would do it
ina new York second and you'd applaud it.
Just like the old days wjhen Sadam was the GOP's golden boy
in Iraq. A *****, but their *****, somebody who'd work with them.
I bet you personally never once complained about Saddam when he was
killing entire villages and cutting deals with American oil companies
between mass murders.
Reagan and Bush supported mass murderers all their regimes and I bet you
never once objected .
I mean, Pol Pot for god's sake! Oif that didn't turn you ***** monkies
off of Reagan and the GOP what does it take?
Even Saddam wasn't too much for you!
And here for you, who Saddam was cheating with under the
oil for food program, the US oil companies.
The New York Times
October 11, 2004
THE U.N. PROGRAM
New Scrutiny of the Flow of Iraqi Oil to American Consumers
By SIMON ROMERO and SCOTT SHANE
As Saddam Hussein pressed the United Nations oil-for-food relief program
for more money that he used to buy banned weapons, an unwitting ally may
have been the American driver. Almost until the eve of the invasion of Iraq
in March 2003, American oil
companies were among the largest purchasers of Iraqi crude oil.
The role that the companies, including ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco,
played in the oil-for-food program is now coming under greater scrutiny in
the wake of a report by the chief arms inspector for the Central
Intelligence Agency that disclosed how
extensively Mr. Hussein was abusing profits from the oil sales.
Executives at the two companies insisted over the weekend that their
purchases of Iraqi oil were not illegal or unknown in international oil
markets in recent years. Industry analysts also said they did not know of
any improprieties by the companies.
"All of our purchases of Iraqi crude were conducted in full compliance
with the program," a spokesman for ChevronTexaco, Michael Barrett, said.
In 2001, Iraq was the source of 7 percent of all United States petroleum
imports, ranking sixth behind the largest foreign suppliers: Saudi Arabia,
Canada, Venezuela, Mexico and Nigeria, according to the Energy Department.
Yet while such imports were considered routine, disclosures about
irregularities in how the Iraqi government selected partners to market the
oil have led to several investigations of the program - by the United
Nations, Congressional committees and a
federal grand jury. The United States attorney's office in Manhattan has
issued subpoenas to several American companies whose names appear on the
Iraqi list as having received vouchers for Iraqi oil.
A spokesman for the House International Relations Committee said
yesterday that the committee was exploring which oil companies had received
Iraqi oil or had been trading in the vouchers. While committee
investigators had been concentrating on the
connection between vouchers and Iraqi arms purchases, the report issued
last week by Charles A. Duelfer, the arms inspector, that named United
States oil companies as recipients of vouchers was now prompting the
panel's investigators to expand their
inquiry to include the United States oil companies as well.
In the meantime, an investigator associated with the independent United
Nations-appointed panel looking into corruption in the oil-for-food
program, said that his group had not begun investigating whether or how
American and other oil companies had
benefited. The panel, led by Paul A. Volcker, the former chairman of the
Federal Reserve system, is concentrating on accusations of wrongdoing by
United Nations employees and companies like Cotecna Inspection of
Switzerland and Saybolt International, a
Dutch concern, which the United Nations hired to monitor parts of the
program.
The investigator said that the panel would only begin to focus on oil
companies that got Iraqi crude oil, with or without United Nations
authorization, after this initial phase of the inquiry was completed, which
is likely to be weeks or even months
away. The investigator noted that the panel did not have subpoena power
and lacked the authority to take punitive action against any company,
American or foreign. Under the oil-for-food program, he said, member
countries, not the United Nations, were
responsible for ensuring that their companies obeyed sanctions against
Iraq.
The House Energy and Commerce Committee has also joined the inquiry, with
the chairman, Representative Joe L. Barton, Republican of Texas, sending a
letter last Thursday to the United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan,
asking Mr. Annan to release
"any information in U.N. possession which relates to the use of
oil-for-food money to produce chemical weapons in Iraq."
The oil-for-food program, over its life, resulted in $64.2 billion in
sales, making it the world's largest relief program, American officials
say. The amount of oil sold fluctuated as the program went on. At the
start, in December 1996, Iraq was allowed
to sell only $2 billion worth of oil every six months. That limit was
raised to $5.26 billion every six months by December 1999 and then was
lifted altogether, until the oil-for-food program came to an end in March
2003.
The program allowed Iraq the power to determine, with certain exceptions,
whom it sold oil to and whom it bought goods from, based on the profits of
the sale, according to the United Nations, but the United Nations had veto
authority over all the
contracts. For a United States oil company to participate, it first
needed permission from Washington. The revenue ultimately financed $31
billion of relief supplies and equipment, including $1.6 billion of
oil-industry spare parts and equipment, among
other items, according to the United Nations.
At the same time, Mr. Hussein was imposing illegal surcharges, collecting
kickbacks and smuggling oil outside the approved program, generating almost
$11 billion in illicit revenue, which he used to buy weapons, other
prohibited items and to build
lavish palaces, according to the Duelfer report.
Moreover, oil experts have said, the largest source of money from
unreported oil sales was from Iraq's illicit sale of oil to neighboring
Turkey and Jordan. Neither the United States nor Britain objected to these
sales to staunch Middle East allies
until Mr. Hussein's government began making similar oil shipments to
Syria. Only then did Washington protest the deals, the experts said.
Regardless of the route through which this oil reached world markets, the
United States was the single largest importer under the United Nations
program, with as much as half the oil in certain periods processed at
American refineries for sale in this
country.
During the first seven months of 2002, the United States imported an
average of 566,000 barrels a day from Iraq, with big importers including
ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, Valero Energy and Koch Petroleum, according to
the Energy Department.
These American companies acquired the oil after it passed through a
complicated route of trading concerns and intermediaries. The Duelfer
report said that Bayoil, a Houston-based trading company, and Oscar S.
Wyatt Jr., a prominent Texas energy investor
with a long history of dealings in Iraq, were among those who received
vouchers to buy Iraqi oil under the program. Their receipt of these oil
allocations does not mean that they did anything illegal.
Mr. Wyatt did not respond yesterday to requests for comment, and messages
left at Bayoil's offices were not answered.
Illustrating the convoluted way Iraqi oil reached the United States, the
Energy Information Administration estimated in late 2002 that about 30
percent of it was first sold to Russian companies, with the rest bought by
companies from nations including
Cyprus, Sudan and Pakistan.
The Iraqi oil was resold to intermediaries who then marketed it
internationally, largely to American oil companies. For example, in 2001,
the energy administration estimated that significant amounts of Iraqi crude
oil wound up at American refineries,
some of which had been built decades ago in part to handle Iraqi blends.
Almost 80 percent of crude oil from the Basra region and more than 30
percent of oil from Kirkuk went to the United States in 2001, according to
the energy administration. Imports of Iraqi oil under the program grew from
an average of 89,000 barrels a
day in 1997, to a peak of 795,000 barrels in 2001, and then declining to
459,000 barrels a day in 2002, the Energy Department said.
Eric Lipton and Judith Miller contributed reporting for this article.
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Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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19 Oct 2004 04:01:41 PM |
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wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message news:<4173e33c$0$167$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com>...
Not-easily-duped wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction
was found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Nobody thinks a mass murderer should be returned to power.
You seem yto nbe a nasty, hate filled right winger with a brain full of
*****.
No Liberals want Saddam back.
But who was it supported Saddam all those years? Reagan, Bush
and the GOP Hooise and Senate.
We are interrested in knowing who suppports him now. It looks like a bunch
of left wing assholes, do-gooders
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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20 Oct 2004 12:19:23 PM |
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Not-easily-duped wrote:
wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:<4173e33c$0$167$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com>...
Not-easily-duped wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass
destruction was found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate
Saddam in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's
mistake?
Nobody thinks a mass murderer should be returned to power.
You seem yto nbe a nasty, hate filled right winger with a brain full of
*****.
No Liberals want Saddam back.
But who was it supported Saddam all those years? Reagan, Bush
and the GOP Hooise and Senate.
We are interrested in knowing who suppports him now. It looks like a
bunch of left wing assholes, do-gooders
Only farright sghit heads ever supported Saddam
It was Reagan and Bush that supported him
until he invaded Kuwait.
And the GOP members of Senate and House.
And Rumsfeld who was in Iraq weeks afer Saddam had killed
thousands in gas attaxks on Kurdish villages, a griinnng and shaking
Saddam's paw while concluding another big get rich scheme.
Never mind the dead bodies.
Which never bother the right.
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Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "W=Waffler" |
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17 Oct 2004 05:55:41 PM |
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Not-easily-duped wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Kerry has said it's good that Saddam was removed from power. The
problem was that the Bush Administration had no plan for the post-war
period.
James
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| User: "Jez" |
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17 Oct 2004 05:42:52 PM |
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Not-easily-duped wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Saddam want to stand in the up-coming Iraq elections...
http://www.zaman.org/?bl=international&alt=&trh=20040921&hn=12424
Ho hum...
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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17 Oct 2004 08:33:26 PM |
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On 17 Oct 2004 15:08:18 -0700 in alt.atheism,
(Not-easily-duped) defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet stall:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
Hard to say, knee-jerk conservative *****. Tell us, why don't you? :-?
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L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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17 Oct 2004 07:38:24 PM |
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On 17 Oct 2004 15:08:18 -0700, (Dopey)
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Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
"Thou sayest it"
What do you think yourself? Suppose you have been arrested on false
charges? Would it be reasonable to keep you in jail nevertheless,
since you are stupid as *****?
Mmm.... I think you better not answer that one.
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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19 Oct 2004 04:02:55 PM |
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Jos Flachs <"wcruise"@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<t246n0tv59igccde6cllp5ssccaskuoakv@4ax.com>...
On 17 Oct 2004 15:08:18 -0700, (Dopey)
wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
"Thou sayest it"
What do you think yourself? Suppose you have been arrested on false
charges? Would it be reasonable to keep you in jail nevertheless,
since you are stupid as *****?
Go and tell that to Koffi Annan
Mmm.... I think you better not answer that one.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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19 Oct 2004 11:16:50 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 07:38:24 +0700, Jos Flachs
<"wcruise"@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2004 15:08:18 -0700, (Dopey)
wrote:
Saddam was not killed he is still alive and no weapon of mass destruction was
found.
Now, knee jerks liberals and assholes would it be fair to reinstate Saddam
in power If Kerry wins the election in order to correct Bush's mistake?
"Thou sayest it"
What do you think yourself? Suppose you have been arrested on false
charges? Would it be reasonable to keep you in jail nevertheless,
since you are stupid as *****?
Mmm.... I think you better not answer that one.
Of course, putting him back in power, with lots of western support,
just to make sure he understands that "who is in power", is not the
same as "who is giving the orders, could be a major good will
initiative in healing the islam/christendom, rift.
It would also leave the west, in control of the oil fields, and with a
serious military presence in the middle east.
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