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07 Mar 2006 11:57:02 AM |
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Should We Blow Iran Up ? |
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President ***** Cheney said Tuesday that Iran
will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and warned "the United
States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the
irresponsible conduct of the regime."
Cheney said the Iranian government "continues to defy the world with
its nuclear ambitions" and that the issue may soon go before the U.N.
Security Council.
"The Iranian regime needs to know that if it stays on its present
course, the international community is prepared to impose meaningful
consequences," Cheney said in a speech to the to the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee, an influential pro-Israel lobbying group.
He said the United States joins "other nations in sending that regime a
clear message: we will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon."
Also Tuesday, Russia appeared to close ranks with the United States
over Tehran's nuclear program.
At a joint State Department news conference with Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said there was
no compromise in sight with Iran. Russia has been negotiating with Iran
and has proposed enriching fuel on Russian soil for Iran's energy need.
Earlier in the day, the White House said it expects the U.N. Security
Council to move forward to rebuke Tehran for its disputed nuclear
program.
"The international community has spelled out what Iran must do -- that
means suspend all enrichment activity," presidential spokesman Scott
McClellan said ahead of President Bush's meeting Tuesday with Russian
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
McClellan's comments came as a diplomat in Vienna, Austria, where the
International Atomic Energy Agency is meeting, told The Associated
Press that Iran is offering to suspend full-scale uranium enrichment
for up to two years. The offer reflected Tehran's attempts to escape
Security Council action over the activity, which can be used to make
nuclear arms.
The diplomat, who demanded anonymity in exchange for divulging
confidential information, said the Tehran's offer was made Friday by
chief Iranian negotiator Ali Larijani in Moscow in the context of
contacts between Iran and Russia on moving Tehran's enrichment program
to Russia. But Iran's envoy to the IAEA, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, said
Tuesday his country was not prepared to freeze small-scale enrichment.
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07 Mar 2006 12:37:33 PM |
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"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141754222.211568.272930@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President ***** Cheney said Tuesday that Iran
will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and warned "the United
States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the
irresponsible conduct of the regime."
AUGH! The IRONY!
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Rune B" |
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07 Mar 2006 12:37:31 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2006 09:57:02 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President ***** Cheney said Tuesday that Iran
will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and warned "the United
States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the
irresponsible conduct of the regime."
I'm torn between the possibility of alienating modern, secular
iranians especially young people, who would be made to fight, and die,
in the regime's name in such a war.
I'm also terrified at the prospect of a strike on nuclear reactors
that could release the poison over a larger area.
However it doesn't seem diplomacy is working... and iran is far more
dangerous than iraq has been since the 80's.
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WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "kathryn" |
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07 Mar 2006 12:59:37 PM |
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"Rune B" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:6kkr02don7tl1te8o3aegb0cej2rave9ef@4ax.com...
On 7 Mar 2006 09:57:02 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President ***** Cheney said Tuesday that Iran
will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and warned "the United
States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the
irresponsible conduct of the regime."
I'm torn between the possibility of alienating modern, secular
iranians especially young people, who would be made to fight, and die,
in the regime's name in such a war.
I'm also terrified at the prospect of a strike on nuclear reactors
that could release the poison over a larger area.
However it doesn't seem diplomacy is working... and iran is far more
dangerous than iraq has been since the 80's.
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Isn't that the irony though?
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| User: "Rune B" |
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07 Mar 2006 01:05:34 PM |
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Isn't that the irony though?
It's an absolute travesty... the war against iraq may also have made
it more difficult to fight against iran. People are far more
skeptical, allies are negative, the muslim world is convinced Bush is
out to conquer them and so forth.
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WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "einsof" |
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07 Mar 2006 01:20:21 PM |
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Iran's pursuit of a Nuclear Program can only lead to further tension in
the MidEast --& considering the views of Iran's leaders as far as
Israel goes, you can't expect Israel to sit by while Iran plans for its
destruction-- The world must stand together against the expansion of
Nuclear Power in unstable regimes like Iran--If the world fails in its
responsibility to deal with Iran's dangerous Nuclear plans, then once
again action will be left to the Americans or the Israelis..There is no
other choice for Israel!!
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| User: "Rune B" |
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08 Mar 2006 04:36:54 AM |
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On 7 Mar 2006 11:20:21 -0800, "einsof" <einsof99@hotmail.com> wrote:
Iran's pursuit of a Nuclear Program can only lead to further tension in
the MidEast --& considering the views of Iran's leaders as far as
Israel goes, you can't expect Israel to sit by while Iran plans for its
destruction-- The world must stand together against the expansion of
And if Israel strikes them like they did the iraqi reactor, I think
there's a slight chance all hell is gonna break lose in the middle
east. Maybe in the west too, if it spreads radioactivity over the
population.
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WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Mar 2006 06:29:01 AM |
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Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:osct021ec9k4vam4b7vftse1mvkt6indul@4ax.com:
On 7 Mar 2006 11:20:21 -0800, "einsof" <einsof99@hotmail.com> wrote:
Iran's pursuit of a Nuclear Program can only lead to further tension in
the MidEast --& considering the views of Iran's leaders as far as
Israel goes, you can't expect Israel to sit by while Iran plans for its
destruction-- The world must stand together against the expansion of
And if Israel strikes them like they did the iraqi reactor, I think
there's a slight chance all hell is gonna break lose in the middle
east. Maybe in the west too, if it spreads radioactivity over the
population.
All hell is already going to break loose in the mideast. Better sooner than
later. The longer we diddle around with Iran the worse it's going to be.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There are security precautions that were taken... One of those was not
informing you of the trip until now," McClellan told reporters.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Mar 2006 02:56:56 PM |
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Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:s9mr02dogktjsfv33hoamq658oqhbp7urr@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Isn't that the irony though?
It's an absolute travesty... the war against iraq may also have made
it more difficult to fight against iran. People are far more
skeptical, allies are negative, the muslim world is convinced Bush is
out to conquer them and so forth.
The war in Iraq makes it possible to fight Iran. Our allies may be
skeptical, but Iran is doing just about all it can to convince them of the
need for regime change. And the rest of the Muslim world is not exactly
thrilled with the idea of a nuclear-armed Iranian regime. Sunnis vs
Shi'ites, remember?
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There are security precautions that were taken... One of those was not
informing you of the trip until now," McClellan told reporters.
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| User: "Fester" |
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07 Mar 2006 04:16:25 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:s9mr02dogktjsfv33hoamq658oqhbp7urr@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
Isn't that the irony though?
It's an absolute travesty... the war against iraq may also have made
it more difficult to fight against iran. People are far more
skeptical, allies are negative, the muslim world is convinced Bush is
out to conquer them and so forth.
The war in Iraq makes it possible to fight Iran. Our allies may be
skeptical, but Iran is doing just about all it can to convince them of the
need for regime change. And the rest of the Muslim world is not exactly
thrilled with the idea of a nuclear-armed Iranian regime. Sunnis vs
Shi'ites, remember?
Yeah, our "allies" in Europe are so scared at the thought, they may
actually sit quietly on the sidelines and allow us make the sacrifices
necessary to keep their sweet asses radiation free.
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| User: "Rune B" |
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08 Mar 2006 04:38:43 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:16:25 GMT, Fester <not@home.com> wrote:
Yeah, our "allies" in Europe are so scared at the thought, they may
actually sit quietly on the sidelines and allow us make the sacrifices
necessary to keep their sweet asses radiation free.
If you think europeans are cowards, think again. We usually get the
most dangerous assignments.
I do however agree, that the socialist governments of europe are naive
to where it could lead to catastrophe.
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WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Mar 2006 02:53:24 PM |
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Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:6kkr02don7tl1te8o3aegb0cej2rave9ef@4ax.com:
On 7 Mar 2006 09:57:02 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President ***** Cheney said Tuesday that Iran
will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and warned "the United
States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the
irresponsible conduct of the regime."
I'm torn between the possibility of alienating modern, secular
iranians especially young people, who would be made to fight, and die,
in the regime's name in such a war.
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it weren't
possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime and then
get out again.
I'm also terrified at the prospect of a strike on nuclear reactors
that could release the poison over a larger area.
However it doesn't seem diplomacy is working... and iran is far more
dangerous than iraq has been since the 80's.
WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There are security precautions that were taken... One of those was not
informing you of the trip until now," McClellan told reporters.
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| User: "Rune B" |
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07 Mar 2006 04:32:39 PM |
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it weren't
possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime and then
get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are droves
of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We either
have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And neither
prospect is especially appealing.
--
WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Mar 2006 07:45:01 PM |
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Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime
and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are droves
of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We either
have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And neither
prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There are security precautions that were taken... One of those was not
informing you of the trip until now," McClellan told reporters.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Mar 2006 08:49:47 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime
and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are droves
of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We either
have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And neither
prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
....which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
Sorry, Fred, but our little war-in-Iraq has destablized the entire
region. You, of course, will find truth like this either embarassing,
or you won't even recognize it as the truth and, instead, ***** and moan
like the impotent neocon that you are and blame me, Michael Moore,
Democrats, Saddam Hussein, or anyone else that you can find to fling mud
at besides yourself.
Face it, Fred. Liberals are fucking tired of neocon rhetoric and,
frankly, we're not going to take it anymore. We are going to take back
America for freedom AND justice and take Ameica back to a time when we
were looked upon as an icon to strive for, not an icon to be feared.
Of course, this won't jive with your view of the world, wherein people
must be ruled and led.
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* return for protection to his own." *
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Mar 2006 09:50:01 PM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:440e4744$0$27795$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the
regime and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are
droves of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We
either have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And
neither prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
...which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
Of course not. Saddam would be smuggling them *out* of Iraq and into
Turkey and Europe.
<snip the whining>
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"There are security precautions that were taken... One of those was not
informing you of the trip until now," McClellan told reporters.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Mar 2006 10:17:59 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:440e4744$0$27795$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the
regime and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are
droves of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We
either have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And
neither prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
...which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
Of course not. Saddam would be smuggling them *out* of Iraq and into
Turkey and Europe.
Prove it.
<snip the whining>
Fine. Ignore it, like Bush ignored the 50+ warnings of 9/11.
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07 Mar 2006 09:28:31 PM |
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DanielSan wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime
and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are droves
of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We either
have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And neither
prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
...which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
Sorry, Fred, but our little war-in-Iraq has destablized the entire
region. You, of course, will find truth like this either embarassing,
or you won't even recognize it as the truth and, instead, ***** and moan
like the impotent neocon that you are and blame me, Michael Moore,
Democrats, Saddam Hussein, or anyone else that you can find to fling mud
at besides yourself.
Face it, Fred. Liberals are fucking tired of neocon rhetoric and,
frankly, we're not going to take it anymore. We are going to take back
America for freedom AND justice and take Ameica back to a time when we
were looked upon as an icon to strive for, not an icon to be feared.
Of course, this won't jive with your view of the world, wherein people
must be ruled and led.
Hey Fred, I think I can tell the precise phrase where he creamed his
pants during the above delusional tirade, can you?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Mar 2006 10:06:26 PM |
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Fester wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime
and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are droves
of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We either
have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And neither
prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
...which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
Sorry, Fred, but our little war-in-Iraq has destablized the entire
region. You, of course, will find truth like this either embarassing,
or you won't even recognize it as the truth and, instead, ***** and
moan like the impotent neocon that you are and blame me, Michael
Moore, Democrats, Saddam Hussein, or anyone else that you can find to
fling mud at besides yourself.
Face it, Fred. Liberals are fucking tired of neocon rhetoric and,
frankly, we're not going to take it anymore. We are going to take
back America for freedom AND justice and take Ameica back to a time
when we were looked upon as an icon to strive for, not an icon to be
feared.
Of course, this won't jive with your view of the world, wherein people
must be ruled and led.
Hey Fred, I think I can tell the precise phrase where he creamed his
pants during the above delusional tirade, can you?
Oh, can you? Is everything sexual with you, Fester? Should you see
someone about that? I know a nice guy in a white coat.
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* "In every country and in every age, the priest *
* has been hostile to liberty. He is always in *
* alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in *
* return for protection to his own." *
* --Jefferson (in a letter to H. Spafford, 1814) *
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08 Mar 2006 04:53:43 AM |
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DanielSan wrote:
Fester wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:m92s02h9sn4nar2hd7g19a9daa3gumtebh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Christopher Hitchens wrote that one such Iranian asked him if it
weren't possible to invade Iran just long enough to depose the regime
and then get out again.
They've been building their power base for 25 years, making sure
everyone around Teheran has the right ideas. I don't think it's
possible to merely take out the higher ups and leave. There are droves
of theocrats and clerics standing by to take their place. We either
have to bomb their reactors, or topple the whole thing. And neither
prospect is especially appealing.
True. We're going to have to choose between a nuclear-armed Iran and
another bloody mess resulting from an armed confrontation.
Of course the armed confrontation is already under way. The Iranians
have been caught smuggling advanced antipersonnel weapons into Iraq.
...which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
Sorry, Fred, but our little war-in-Iraq has destablized the entire
region. You, of course, will find truth like this either
embarassing, or you won't even recognize it as the truth and,
instead, ***** and moan like the impotent neocon that you are and
blame me, Michael Moore, Democrats, Saddam Hussein, or anyone else
that you can find to fling mud at besides yourself.
Face it, Fred. Liberals are fucking tired of neocon rhetoric and,
frankly, we're not going to take it anymore. We are going to take
back America for freedom AND justice and take Ameica back to a time
when we were looked upon as an icon to strive for, not an icon to be
feared.
Of course, this won't jive with your view of the world, wherein
people must be ruled and led.
Hey Fred, I think I can tell the precise phrase where he creamed his
pants during the above delusional tirade, can you?
Oh, can you? Is everything sexual with you, Fester? Should you see
someone about that? I know a nice guy in a white coat.
Clearly the nice guy in the white coat hasn't cured you, so who are you
to either diagnose or advise anyone else?
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| User: "Rune B" |
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| Title: Re: Should We Blow Iran Up ? |
08 Mar 2006 04:43:17 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:49:47 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
...which would not have happened in a Saddam-run Iraq.
I think that's beside the point, Daniel. The muslim world must take
most of the responsibility for the chaos in iraq. The wide majority of
civilian casualties are suffered as a result of terrorism and
overzealous or racist iraqi police and military.
In one instance for example, they killed 23 children and 12 adults to
take out a GI who was handing out candy. Does anyone really think that
the jihadii in iraq are fighting for iraqi freedom? They're not.
They're fighting for muslim fundamentalism. They're also attacking
water supply, relief convoys etc.
Yes, the US went to war on false premises. But they are now the only
stabilizing force in the country, their occupation is legal, and a far
better alternative to a religious regime or civil war. Which are
probably not mutually exclusive either.
--
WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "Sir Gilligan Horry" |
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| Title: Re: Should We Blow Iran Up ? |
07 Mar 2006 05:54:54 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2006 09:57:02 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President ***** Cheney said Tuesday that Iran
will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and warned "the United
States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the
irresponsible conduct of the regime."
We could drop North Korea on Iran ?
;-)
Heh.
Or let Iran test atomic bombs in France.
(Like them Frenchies were here in the Pacific)
Or we could all just have a chat and a game of Doom3 online !!
Yay !!!
http://www.doom3.com
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