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"DaveJr" |
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20 Dec 2005 01:46:49 AM |
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shroud of turin |
I missed the History channel show about the shroud of turin. Any
intelligent people see it?
Was it proven to be a fake....again
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
22 Dec 2005 05:26:11 PM |
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On 21 Dec 2005 14:21:06 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt>
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not photographed, not painted. Only a very bright and brilliant flash
could have done it. God works wonders, doesn't he.
Wrong shape. Dead on arrival.
Not photographed, not painted, only a bright, brilliant flash could have done
it. No man is shaped like that. The flash came about during a moment of
intense light. AND, from internally.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
22 Dec 2005 08:30:09 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:mcdmq11cgo1adkgjpdgivachfpd1vv2ico@4ax.com...
On 21 Dec 2005 14:21:06 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt>
wrote:
not photographed, not painted. Only a very bright and brilliant flash
could have done it. God works wonders, doesn't he.
Wrong shape. Dead on arrival.
Not photographed, not painted, only a bright, brilliant flash could have
done
it. No man is shaped like that. The flash came about during a moment of
intense light. AND, from internally.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Imagination comes from within.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
23 Dec 2005 06:55:19 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:30:09 -0700, "DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net> wrote:
Not photographed, not painted, only a bright, brilliant flash could have
done
it. No man is shaped like that. The flash came about during a moment of
intense light. AND, from internally.
Imagination comes from within.
And so does the facts.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
21 Dec 2005 01:09:06 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 21 Dec 2005 09:39:34 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Never has been.
You don't even need to test it to prove that. Just look at the
image. It's flat - not an impression from a cloth wrapped around
someone. The bishop who denounced it when it first surfaced saw
through it from day one.
Klazmon.
not photographed, not painted. Only a very bright and brilliant
flash could
have done it. God works wonders, doesn't he.
*
Painted. If you take a human head, cover it with paint
and cover that with a clothe and remove it, you get a peculiar looking
image. The Turin clothe is not the sort of image you get that way.
What the artist did, and there was an artist known to the French
archbishop in the time it was made, did was, make a clay model,
place the damp clothe on top, form it around the clay model
and dabble paint on top to get an image that is artful, what
he wanted to see, not the way a real clothe would look like
had it formed from a dead body somehow.
That artful image is a dead givewawy it is a fake, that image
can only happen by human art.
Obviously, you are incredibly ignorant on the subject as usual
and would not dream of researching the subject before spewing
ignorant crap.
It is a fake, one of two made by the same artist by the way.
The other shroud was destroyed by a fire in the 15th century.
Your ignorance is deep and near total.
The clothe was made from two bas relief images, and was
made in two operations. Being bas relief, not full sized
images, the head is thus short by a few inches.
Jesus would thus have been a pinhead if this was a real image.
Because of the artful pose, the left arm of the figure is 4 inches
longer than the right arm.
Its a fake, sonny boy. And a clumsy one too.
Good enough to fool morons only.
--
Wassail, Happy Holidays, Merry Solstice, Happy
Saturnalia, mull the wine and pass the eggnog.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
22 Dec 2005 01:15:15 AM |
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wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in news:11qja0tr6n0f0b9
@corp.supernews.com:
duke wrote:
On 21 Dec 2005 09:39:34 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Never has been.
You don't even need to test it to prove that. Just look at the
image. It's flat - not an impression from a cloth wrapped around
someone. The bishop who denounced it when it first surfaced saw
through it from day one.
Klazmon.
not photographed, not painted. Only a very bright and brilliant
flash could
have done it. God works wonders, doesn't he.
*
Painted. If you take a human head, cover it with paint
and cover that with a clothe and remove it, you get a peculiar looking
image. The Turin clothe is not the sort of image you get that way.
What the artist did, and there was an artist known to the French
archbishop in the time it was made, did was, make a clay model,
place the damp clothe on top, form it around the clay model
and dabble paint on top to get an image that is artful, what
he wanted to see, not the way a real clothe would look like
had it formed from a dead body somehow.
That artful image is a dead givewawy it is a fake, that image
can only happen by human art.
Obviously, you are incredibly ignorant on the subject as usual
and would not dream of researching the subject before spewing
ignorant crap.
It is a fake, one of two made by the same artist by the way.
The other shroud was destroyed by a fire in the 15th century.
Your ignorance is deep and near total.
The clothe was made from two bas relief images, and was
made in two operations. Being bas relief, not full sized
images, the head is thus short by a few inches.
Jesus would thus have been a pinhead if this was a real image.
Because of the artful pose, the left arm of the figure is 4 inches
longer than the right arm.
Its a fake, sonny boy. And a clumsy one too.
Good enough to fool morons only.
I wonder if duke will somehow be blessed with an invisible stigmata soon.
That should be fun. Ever been close to holy ecstasy duke?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
22 Dec 2005 03:10:56 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:15:15 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in news:11qja0tr6n0f0b9
@corp.supernews.com:
duke wrote:
On 21 Dec 2005 09:39:34 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Never has been.
You don't even need to test it to prove that. Just look at the
image. It's flat - not an impression from a cloth wrapped around
someone. The bishop who denounced it when it first surfaced saw
through it from day one.
Klazmon.
not photographed, not painted. Only a very bright and brilliant
flash could
have done it. God works wonders, doesn't he.
*
Painted. If you take a human head, cover it with paint
and cover that with a clothe and remove it, you get a peculiar looking
image. The Turin clothe is not the sort of image you get that way.
What the artist did, and there was an artist known to the French
archbishop in the time it was made, did was, make a clay model,
place the damp clothe on top, form it around the clay model
and dabble paint on top to get an image that is artful, what
he wanted to see, not the way a real clothe would look like
had it formed from a dead body somehow.
That artful image is a dead givewawy it is a fake, that image
can only happen by human art.
Obviously, you are incredibly ignorant on the subject as usual
and would not dream of researching the subject before spewing
ignorant crap.
It is a fake, one of two made by the same artist by the way.
The other shroud was destroyed by a fire in the 15th century.
Your ignorance is deep and near total.
The clothe was made from two bas relief images, and was
made in two operations. Being bas relief, not full sized
images, the head is thus short by a few inches.
Jesus would thus have been a pinhead if this was a real image.
Because of the artful pose, the left arm of the figure is 4 inches
longer than the right arm.
Its a fake, sonny boy. And a clumsy one too.
Good enough to fool morons only.
I wonder if duke will somehow be blessed with an invisible stigmata soon.
That should be fun. Ever been close to holy ecstasy duke?
He's already got one, you see?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
22 Dec 2005 05:35:19 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:15:15 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com>
wrote:
I wonder if duke will somehow be blessed with an invisible stigmata soon.
That should be fun. Ever been close to holy ecstasy duke?
Any such thing comes in life after life. Why do you throw it away out of
ignorance?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
22 Dec 2005 11:15:45 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:nvdmq119gecojsnv7n7c4c7te91bqk7lqd@4ax.com:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:15:15 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com>
wrote:
I wonder if duke will somehow be blessed with an invisible stigmata soon.
That should be fun. Ever been close to holy ecstasy duke?
Any such thing comes in life after life.
According to the lives of the saints, ecstacy is easily attained. Are you
certain you are catholic? Somehow I think you are not.
Why do you throw it away out of
ignorance?
You assertion of "ignorance" is most humorous. Are you certain that
english is your primary language?
pierce
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
23 Dec 2005 06:57:03 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:15:45 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com>
wrote:
I wonder if duke will somehow be blessed with an invisible stigmata soon.
That should be fun. Ever been close to holy ecstasy duke?
Any such thing comes in life after life.
According to the lives of the saints, ecstacy is easily attained. Are you
certain you are catholic? Somehow I think you are not.
Then you think wrongly.
Why do you throw it away out of
ignorance?
You assertion of "ignorance" is most humorous. Are you certain that
english is your primary language?
I've now seen two posts from you, and neither one said much. The best you can
do is talk about a tv reporter.
Can you offer something better?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
20 Dec 2005 06:30:06 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:46:49 -0700, "DaveJr" <davesbrain@qwest.net> wrote:
I missed the History channel show about the shroud of turin. Any
intelligent people see it?
Was it proven to be a fake....again
Never has been.
Like a 3-year-old in a temper tantrum Dookie runs around with his
fingers in his ears shouting "I can't hear you, I can't hear you"
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: shroud of turin |
20 Dec 2005 06:20:54 PM |
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On 20 Dec 2005 04:30:06 -0800, "JPG" <j_peasemold_gruntfuttock@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I missed the History channel show about the shroud of turin. Any
intelligent people see it?
Was it proven to be a fake....again
Never has been.
Like a 3-year-old in a temper tantrum Dookie runs around with his
fingers in his ears shouting "I can't hear you, I can't hear you"
Like I said, you can pull your 3-year old finger out of your rectum now.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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