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"stoney" |
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06 Oct 2006 01:41:26 AM |
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Shrub is such a wanker |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists.
In the law Bush signed Wednesday, Congress stated no one but the privacy
officer could alter, delay or prohibit the mandatory annual report on
Homeland Security department activities that affect privacy, including
complaints.
But Bush, in a signing statement attached to the agency's 2007 spending
bill, said he will interpret that section "in a manner consistent with
the President's constitutional authority to supervise the unitary
executive branch."
White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said it's appropriate for the
administration to know what reports go to Congress and to review them
beforehand.
"There can be a discussion on whether to accept a change or a nuance,"
she said. "It could be any number of things."
The American Bar Association and members of Congress have said Bush uses
signing statements excessively as a way to expand his power.
The Senate held hearings on the issue in June. At the time, 110
statements challenged about 750 statutes passed by Congress, according
to numbers combined from the White House and the Senate committee. They
include documents revising or disregarding parts of legislation to ban
torture of detainees and to renew the Patriot Act.
Privacy advocate Marc Rotenberg said Bush is trying to subvert
lawmakers' ability to accurately monitor activities of the executive
branch of government.
"The Homeland Security Department has been setting up watch lists to
determine who gets on planes, who gets government jobs, who gets
employed," said Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy
Information Center.
He said the Homeland Security Department has the most significant impact
on citizens' privacy of any agency in the federal government.
Homeland Security agencies check airline passengers' names against
terrorist watch lists and detain them if there's a match. They make sure
transportation workers' backgrounds are investigated. They are working
on several kinds of biometric ID cards that millions of people would
have to carry.
The department's privacy office has put the brakes on some initiatives,
such as using insecure radio-frequency identification technology, or
RFID, in travel documents. It also developed privacy policies after an
uproar over the disclosure that airlines turned over their passengers'
personal information to the government.
The last privacy report was submitted in February 2005.
Bush's signing statement Wednesday challenges several other provisions
in the Homeland Security spending bill.
Bush, for example, said he'd disregard a requirement that the director
of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency must have at least five years
experience and "demonstrated ability in and knowledge of emergency
management and homeland security."
His rationale was that it "rules out a large portion of those persons
best qualified by experience and knowledge to fill the office."
/end
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Shrub is such a wanker |
06 Oct 2006 05:54:05 AM |
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In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Mark D J. Mark D" |
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| Title: Re: Shrub is such a wanker |
06 Oct 2006 09:49:55 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
'George the Thurd'...
M.
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| User: "johac" |
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07 Oct 2006 05:33:13 AM |
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In article <7FpVg.2662$pa.2203@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
"Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
'George the Thurd'...
I think that you used one letter too many there. :-)
M.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Shrub is such a wanker |
06 Oct 2006 09:26:34 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Shrub is such a wanker |
06 Oct 2006 05:36:27 PM |
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*nemo* wrote:
In article <jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and
watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
Shoot at something that shoots back? Are you kidding?
As long as George doesn't mess with their addiction, he'll be fine.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "John Baker" |
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06 Oct 2006 06:36:35 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:36:27 +0100, Kevin Anthoney
<kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
In article <jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and
watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
Shoot at something that shoots back? Are you kidding?
You might just be surprised.
As long as George doesn't mess with their addiction, he'll be fine.
If you think only conservatives support gun rights.... look again.
There are several gun owning moderates and liberals right in this
newsgroup. There are an estimated 40 - 50 million people in this
country who own at least one firearm, and we aren't all rednecks and
armchair generals.
Assuming that all gun owners are tobacco-chewing 'good ole boys',
raving neocons, cowards who need a "security blanket" or any other
negative stereotype the anti-gunners like to toss around is no
different than any other kind of bigotry.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Shrub is such a wanker |
07 Oct 2006 01:30:34 AM |
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In article <4q5di21f9o5rlqc8nk9mrlb9m4d4k88jgo@4ax.com>,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
Shoot at something that shoots back? Are you kidding?
You might just be surprised.
As long as George doesn't mess with their addiction, he'll be fine.
If you think only conservatives support gun rights.... look again.
There are several gun owning moderates and liberals right in this
newsgroup. There are an estimated 40 - 50 million people in this
country who own at least one firearm, and we aren't all rednecks and
armchair generals.
Assuming that all gun owners are tobacco-chewing 'good ole boys',
raving neocons, cowards who need a "security blanket" or any other
negative stereotype the anti-gunners like to toss around is no
different than any other kind of bigotry.
I will merely point out that I asked the question in terms of "how
many." I realize there is a lot of variance in the NRA... considering
that Michael Moore is a member, who couldn't see it? But an awful lot of
them sure seem to be behind the current regime, if bumper sticker
clustering is a valid research tool. {;-)
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Andres64" |
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| Title: Re: Shrub is such a wanker |
06 Oct 2006 10:01:08 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:36:27 +0100, Kevin Anthoney
<kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
In article <jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and
watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
Shoot at something that shoots back? Are you kidding?
You might just be surprised.
As long as George doesn't mess with their addiction, he'll be fine.
If you think only conservatives support gun rights.... look again.
There are several gun owning moderates and liberals right in this
newsgroup. There are an estimated 40 - 50 million people in this
country who own at least one firearm, and we aren't all rednecks and
armchair generals.
Assuming that all gun owners are tobacco-chewing 'good ole boys',
raving neocons, cowards who need a "security blanket" or any other
negative stereotype the anti-gunners like to toss around is no
different than any other kind of bigotry.
I believe everybody in the world should have guns. Citizens should have
bazookas and rocket launchers too. I believe that all citizens should
have their weapons of choice. However, I also believe that only I
should have the ammunition. Because frankly, I wouldn't trust the rest
of the goobers with anything more dangerous than string.
-- Scott Adams
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Oct 2006 08:49:26 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:36:35 -0400, John Baker wrote:
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and
watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
Shoot at something that shoots back? Are you kidding?
You might just be surprised.
As long as George doesn't mess with their addiction, he'll be fine.
If you think only conservatives support gun rights.... look again.
There are several gun owning moderates and liberals right in this
newsgroup.
Myself, I'm an advocate of every gay person in the US having a gun,
training, and a concealed carry permit (where available).
That'd do something about the gay "bashing" statistics...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Oct 2006 12:02:12 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:49:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:36:35 -0400, John Baker wrote:
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and
watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
Shoot at something that shoots back? Are you kidding?
You might just be surprised.
As long as George doesn't mess with their addiction, he'll be fine.
If you think only conservatives support gun rights.... look again.
There are several gun owning moderates and liberals right in this
newsgroup.
Myself, I'm an advocate of every gay person in the US having a gun,
training, and a concealed carry permit (where available).
That'd do something about the gay "bashing" statistics...
Bingo. It would certainly blow the homophobes away....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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07 Oct 2006 05:35:34 AM |
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In article <nemo0037-341892.05263306102006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-BEE6A0.22540505102006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
If he did, how many NRA members would rise to attack him, the way they
say they would?
I don't know. They might change their minds if he declares open season
on gun snatchin' libruls.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Oct 2006 12:01:08 AM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 22:54:05 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <iucbi25a377ikr3c90oohu8llksr2c4eli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_privacy
Bush says he can edit security reports
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 5, 4:06 PM ET
WASHINGTON -
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit
the Homeland Security Department's reports about whether it obeys
privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists.
Why doesn't he just go ahead and suspend the Constitution, put a crown
on his head and declare himself king. King George the Wanker.
He did, several years ago.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Oct 2006 12:58:21 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:41:26 -0700, stoney wrote:
But Bush, in a signing statement attached to the agency's 2007 spending
bill, said he will interpret that section "in a manner consistent with
the President's constitutional authority to rule with impunity like
Ceasar.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Oct 2006 12:03:50 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:58:21 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:41:26 -0700, stoney wrote:
But Bush, in a signing statement attached to the agency's 2007 spending
bill, said he will interpret that section "in a manner consistent with
the President's constitutional authority to rule with impunity like
Ceasar.
Or the Nero drooler with his thumb up his butt.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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