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Religions > Atheism |
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"Michelle Malkin" |
| Date: |
10 Jul 2007 07:41:36 PM |
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'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight |
http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/news/article_10017.php
JOIN MIKE'S MAILING LIST!
July 10th, 2007 12:19 am
'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN: "(Moore says) the United States slipped to number 37
in the world's health care systems. It's true. ... Moore brings a group of
patients, including 9/11 workers, to Cuba and marvels at their free
treatment and quality of care. But hold on - that WHO list puts Cuba's
health care system even lower than the United States, coming in at #39."
THE TRUTH:
a.. "But hold on?" 'SiCKO' clearly shows the WHO list, with the United
States at number #37, and Cuba at #39. Right up on the screen in big
five-foot letters. It's even in the trailer! CNN should have its reporter
see his eye doctor. The movie isn't hiding from this fact. Just the
opposite.
b.. The fact that the healthcare system in an impoverished nation crippled
by our decades-old blockade (including medical supplies and drugs) ranks so
closely to ours is more an indictment of the American system than the Cuban
system.
c.. Although Cuba ranks lower overall than the United States, it still has
a lower infant mortality rate and longer life span. (see below)
d.. And unlike the United States, Cuba offers healthcare to absolutely
everyone. In an independent Gallup poll conducted in Cuba, "a near unanimous
96 percent of respondents say that health care in Cuba is accessible to
everyone." ("Cubans Show Little Satisfaction with Opportunities and
Individual Freedom Rare Independent Survey Finds Large Majorities Are Still
Proud of Island's Health Care and Education," January 10, 2007.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brlatinamericara/
300.php?nid=&id=&pnt=300&lb=brla)
CNN: "Moore asserts that the American health care system spends $7,000 per
person on health. Cuba spends $25 dollars per person. Not true. But not too
far off. The United States spends $6,096 per person, versus $229 per person
in Cuba."
(Gupta corrected himself on this point tonight on CNN.)
THE TRUTH:
a.. According to our own government - the Department of Health and Human
Services' National Health Expenditures Projections - the United States will
spend $7,092 per capita on health in 2006 and $7,498 in 2007. (Department of
Health and Human Services Center for Medicare and Medicaid Expenditures,
National Health Expenditures Projections 2006-2016.
http://www.cms.hhs.gov/NationalHealthExpendData/downloads/proj2006.pdf)
b.. As for Cuba - Dr. Gupta and CNN need to watch 'SiCKO' first before
commenting on it. 'SiCKO' says Cuba spends $251 per person on health care,
not $25, as Gupta reports. And the BBC reports that Cuba's per capita health
expenditure is. $251! (Keeping Cuba Healthy, BBC, Aug. 1 2006.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/5232628.stm ) This is
confirmed by the United Nations Human Development Report, 2006. Yup, Cuba
spends $251 per person on health care.
(http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/statistics/indicators/52.html). As Gupta points
out, the World Health Organization does calculate Cuba's per capita health
expenditure at $229 per person. We chose to use the UN numbers, a minor
difference - and $229 is a lot closer to $251 than $25.
CNN: In fact, Americans live just a little bit longer than Cubans on
average.
THE TRUTH:
a.. Just the opposite. The 2006 United Nations Human Development Report's
human development index states the life expectancy in the United States is
77.5 years. It is 77.6 years in Cuba. (Human Development Report 2006, United
Nations Development Programme, 2006 at 283.
http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/pdfs/report/HDR06-complete.pdf)
CNN: The United States ranks highest in patient satisfaction.
THE TRUTH:
a.. True, but even when the WHO took patient satisfaction into account in
its comprehensive review of the world's health systems, we still came in at
#37. ("World Health Organization Assesses The World's Health Systems," Press
Release, WHO/44, June 21, 2000.
http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-44.html ).
b.. Patients may be satisfied in America, but not everyone gets to be a
patient. 47 million are uninsured and are rarely patients - until it's too
late. In the rest of the Western world, everyone and anyone can be a patient
because everyone is covered. (And don't face exclusions for pre-existing
conditions, co-pays, deductibles, and costly monthly premiums).
c.. It's not that other countries are unhappy with their health care - for
example, "70 to 80 percent of Canadians find their waiting times
acceptable." ("Access to health care services in Canada, Waiting times for
specialized services (January to December 2005)," Statistics Canada,
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/82-575-XIE/82-575-XIE2006002.htm )
CNN: Americans have shorter wait times than everyone but Germans when
seeking non-emergency elective procedures, like hip replacement, cataract
surgery, or knee repair.
THE TRUTH:
a.. This isn't the whole truth. CNN pulled out a statistic about elective
procedures. Of the six countries surveyed in that study (United States,
Canada, New Zealand, UK, Germany, Australia) only Canada had longer waiting
times than America for sick adults waiting to schedule a doctor's
appointment for a medical problem. 81% of patients in New Zealand got a same
or next-day appointment for a non-routine visit, 71% in Britain, 69% in
Germany, 66% in Australia, 47% in the U.S., and 36% in Canada. (The Doc's
in, but It'll be AWhile. Catherine Arnst, Business Week. June 22, 2007
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2007/
tc20070621_716260_page_2.htm)
b.. "Gerard Anderson, a Johns Hopkins health policy professor who has
spent his career examining the world's healthcare, said there are delays,
but not as many as conservatives state. In Canada, the United Kingdom and
France, 'three percent of hospital discharges had delays in treatment,'
Anderson told The Miami Herald. 'That's a relatively small number, and
they're all elective surgeries, such as hip and knee replacement.' (John
Dorschner, "'SiCKO' film is set to spark debate; Reformers are gearing up
for 'Sicko,' the first major movie to examine America's often maligned
healthcare system," Miami Herald, June 29, 2007.)
c.. One way America is able to achieve decent waiting times is that it
leaves 47 million people out of the health care system entirely, unlike any
other Western country. When you remove 47 million people from the line, your
wait should be shorter. So why is the U.S. second to last in wait times?
d.. And there are even more Americans who keep themselves out of the
system because of cost - in the United States, 24 percent of the population
did not get medical care due to cost. That number is 5 percent in Canada,
and 3 percent in the UK. (Inequities in Health Care: A Five-Country Survey.
Robert Blendon et al, Health Affairs. Exhibit 5.
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/21/3/182)
CNN: (PAUL KECKLEY-Deloitte Health Care Analyst): "The concept that care is
free in France, in Canada, in Cuba - and it's not. Those citizens pay for
health services out of taxes. As a proportion of their household income,
it's a significant number . (GUPTA): It's true that the French pay higher
taxes, and so does nearly every country ahead of the United States on that
list."
THE TRUTH:
a.. 'SiCKO' never claims that health care is provided absolutely for free
in other countries, without tax contributions from citizens. Former MP Tony
Benn reads from the NHS founding pamphlet, which explicitly states that
"this is not a charity. You are paying for it mainly as taxpayers." 'SiCKO'
also acknowledges that the French are "drowning in taxes." Comparatively,
many Americans are drowning in insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pays and
medical debt and the resulting threat of bankruptcy - half of all
bankruptcies in the United States are triggered by medical bills. (Medical
Bills Make up Half of Bankruptcies. Feb. 2005, MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6895896/)
CNN: "But even higher taxes don't guarantee the coverage everyone wants .
(KECKLEY): 15 to 20 percent of the population will purchase services outside
the system of care run by the government."
THE TRUTH:
a.. It's not clear what country Keckley is referring to. In the United
Kingdom, only 11.5 percent of the population has supplementary insurance,
but it doesn't take the place of NHS insurance. Nobody in France buys
insurance that replaces government insurance either, although a substantial
amount buys some form of complimentary insurance. ( Private health insurance
and access to health care in the European Union. Spring 2004.
http://www.euro.who.int/document/Obs/EuroObserver6_1.pdf)
CNN: "But no matter how much Moore fudged the facts, and he did fudge some
facts."
a.. This is libel. There is not a single fact that is "fudged" in the
film. No one has proven a single fact in the film wrong. We expect CNN to
correct their mistakes on the air and to apologize to their viewers.
(This is the same nonsense that CNN pulled with "Farenheit 9/11". They lied
then.
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did not
apologize.)
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| User: "johac" |
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10 Jul 2007 11:51:12 PM |
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In article <dI6dnap8irupugnbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/news/article_10017.php
JOIN MIKE'S MAILING LIST!
July 10th, 2007 12:19 am
'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN: "(Moore says) the United States slipped to number 37
in the world's health care systems. It's true. ... Moore brings a group of
patients, including 9/11 workers, to Cuba and marvels at their free
treatment and quality of care. But hold on - that WHO list puts Cuba's
health care system even lower than the United States, coming in at #39."
THE TRUTH:
a.. "But hold on?" 'SiCKO' clearly shows the WHO list, with the United
States at number #37, and Cuba at #39. Right up on the screen in big
five-foot letters. It's even in the trailer! CNN should have its reporter
see his eye doctor. The movie isn't hiding from this fact. Just the
opposite.
b.. The fact that the healthcare system in an impoverished nation crippled
by our decades-old blockade (including medical supplies and drugs) ranks so
closely to ours is more an indictment of the American system than the Cuban
system.
c.. Although Cuba ranks lower overall than the United States, it still has
a lower infant mortality rate and longer life span. (see below)
d.. And unlike the United States, Cuba offers healthcare to absolutely
everyone. In an independent Gallup poll conducted in Cuba, "a near unanimous
96 percent of respondents say that health care in Cuba is accessible to
everyone." ("Cubans Show Little Satisfaction with Opportunities and
Individual Freedom Rare Independent Survey Finds Large Majorities Are Still
Proud of Island's Health Care and Education," January 10, 2007.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brlatinamericara/
300.php?nid=&id=&pnt=300&lb=brla)
CNN: "Moore asserts that the American health care system spends $7,000 per
person on health. Cuba spends $25 dollars per person. Not true. But not too
far off. The United States spends $6,096 per person, versus $229 per person
in Cuba."
(Gupta corrected himself on this point tonight on CNN.)
THE TRUTH:
a.. According to our own government - the Department of Health and Human
Services' National Health Expenditures Projections - the United States will
spend $7,092 per capita on health in 2006 and $7,498 in 2007. (Department of
Health and Human Services Center for Medicare and Medicaid Expenditures,
National Health Expenditures Projections 2006-2016.
http://www.cms.hhs.gov/NationalHealthExpendData/downloads/proj2006.pdf)
b.. As for Cuba - Dr. Gupta and CNN need to watch 'SiCKO' first before
commenting on it. 'SiCKO' says Cuba spends $251 per person on health care,
not $25, as Gupta reports. And the BBC reports that Cuba's per capita health
expenditure is. $251! (Keeping Cuba Healthy, BBC, Aug. 1 2006.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/5232628.stm ) This is
confirmed by the United Nations Human Development Report, 2006. Yup, Cuba
spends $251 per person on health care.
(http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/statistics/indicators/52.html). As Gupta points
out, the World Health Organization does calculate Cuba's per capita health
expenditure at $229 per person. We chose to use the UN numbers, a minor
difference - and $229 is a lot closer to $251 than $25.
CNN: In fact, Americans live just a little bit longer than Cubans on
average.
THE TRUTH:
a.. Just the opposite. The 2006 United Nations Human Development Report's
human development index states the life expectancy in the United States is
77.5 years. It is 77.6 years in Cuba. (Human Development Report 2006, United
Nations Development Programme, 2006 at 283.
http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/pdfs/report/HDR06-complete.pdf)
CNN: The United States ranks highest in patient satisfaction.
THE TRUTH:
a.. True, but even when the WHO took patient satisfaction into account in
its comprehensive review of the world's health systems, we still came in at
#37. ("World Health Organization Assesses The World's Health Systems," Press
Release, WHO/44, June 21, 2000.
http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-44.html ).
b.. Patients may be satisfied in America, but not everyone gets to be a
patient. 47 million are uninsured and are rarely patients - until it's too
late. In the rest of the Western world, everyone and anyone can be a patient
because everyone is covered. (And don't face exclusions for pre-existing
conditions, co-pays, deductibles, and costly monthly premiums).
c.. It's not that other countries are unhappy with their health care - for
example, "70 to 80 percent of Canadians find their waiting times
acceptable." ("Access to health care services in Canada, Waiting times for
specialized services (January to December 2005)," Statistics Canada,
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/82-575-XIE/82-575-XIE2006002.htm )
CNN: Americans have shorter wait times than everyone but Germans when
seeking non-emergency elective procedures, like hip replacement, cataract
surgery, or knee repair.
THE TRUTH:
a.. This isn't the whole truth. CNN pulled out a statistic about elective
procedures. Of the six countries surveyed in that study (United States,
Canada, New Zealand, UK, Germany, Australia) only Canada had longer waiting
times than America for sick adults waiting to schedule a doctor's
appointment for a medical problem. 81% of patients in New Zealand got a same
or next-day appointment for a non-routine visit, 71% in Britain, 69% in
Germany, 66% in Australia, 47% in the U.S., and 36% in Canada. (The Doc's
in, but It'll be AWhile. Catherine Arnst, Business Week. June 22, 2007
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2007/
tc20070621_716260_page_2.htm)
b.. "Gerard Anderson, a Johns Hopkins health policy professor who has
spent his career examining the world's healthcare, said there are delays,
but not as many as conservatives state. In Canada, the United Kingdom and
France, 'three percent of hospital discharges had delays in treatment,'
Anderson told The Miami Herald. 'That's a relatively small number, and
they're all elective surgeries, such as hip and knee replacement.' (John
Dorschner, "'SiCKO' film is set to spark debate; Reformers are gearing up
for 'Sicko,' the first major movie to examine America's often maligned
healthcare system," Miami Herald, June 29, 2007.)
c.. One way America is able to achieve decent waiting times is that it
leaves 47 million people out of the health care system entirely, unlike any
other Western country. When you remove 47 million people from the line, your
wait should be shorter. So why is the U.S. second to last in wait times?
d.. And there are even more Americans who keep themselves out of the
system because of cost - in the United States, 24 percent of the population
did not get medical care due to cost. That number is 5 percent in Canada,
and 3 percent in the UK. (Inequities in Health Care: A Five-Country Survey.
Robert Blendon et al, Health Affairs. Exhibit 5.
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/21/3/182)
CNN: (PAUL KECKLEY-Deloitte Health Care Analyst): "The concept that care is
free in France, in Canada, in Cuba - and it's not. Those citizens pay for
health services out of taxes. As a proportion of their household income,
it's a significant number . (GUPTA): It's true that the French pay higher
taxes, and so does nearly every country ahead of the United States on that
list."
THE TRUTH:
a.. 'SiCKO' never claims that health care is provided absolutely for free
in other countries, without tax contributions from citizens. Former MP Tony
Benn reads from the NHS founding pamphlet, which explicitly states that
"this is not a charity. You are paying for it mainly as taxpayers." 'SiCKO'
also acknowledges that the French are "drowning in taxes." Comparatively,
many Americans are drowning in insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pays and
medical debt and the resulting threat of bankruptcy - half of all
bankruptcies in the United States are triggered by medical bills. (Medical
Bills Make up Half of Bankruptcies. Feb. 2005, MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6895896/)
CNN: "But even higher taxes don't guarantee the coverage everyone wants .
(KECKLEY): 15 to 20 percent of the population will purchase services outside
the system of care run by the government."
THE TRUTH:
a.. It's not clear what country Keckley is referring to. In the United
Kingdom, only 11.5 percent of the population has supplementary insurance,
but it doesn't take the place of NHS insurance. Nobody in France buys
insurance that replaces government insurance either, although a substantial
amount buys some form of complimentary insurance. ( Private health insurance
and access to health care in the European Union. Spring 2004.
http://www.euro.who.int/document/Obs/EuroObserver6_1.pdf)
CNN: "But no matter how much Moore fudged the facts, and he did fudge some
facts."
a.. This is libel. There is not a single fact that is "fudged" in the
film. No one has proven a single fact in the film wrong. We expect CNN to
correct their mistakes on the air and to apologize to their viewers.
(This is the same nonsense that CNN pulled with "Farenheit 9/11". They lied
then.
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did not
apologize.)
As one wag suggested, CNN stands for "Contains No News". At one time I
thought more of them. Now as far as I'm concerned, they are just another
outlet for government propaganda and corporate shills.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Jul 2007 08:43:50 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:51:12 -0700, johac wrote:
As one wag suggested, CNN stands for "Contains No News". At one time I
thought more of them. Now as far as I'm concerned, they are just another
outlet for government propaganda and corporate shills.
It was all part of the AOLification of Time Warner.
"You've got news!"
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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| User: "johac" |
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11 Jul 2007 06:11:16 PM |
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In article <4ZadnWkByNcLQwnbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:51:12 -0700, johac wrote:
As one wag suggested, CNN stands for "Contains No News". At one time I
thought more of them. Now as far as I'm concerned, they are just another
outlet for government propaganda and corporate shills.
It was all part of the AOLification of Time Warner.
"You've got news!"
"And if it bleeds, it leads unless it's about Paris, Lindsay, Britney,
Anna Nicole, or missing young white women."
I'll be half of those news-bimbos couldn't even find Iraq on a map.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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10 Jul 2007 09:55:29 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did not
apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to believe
his *****, Michelle.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Cthulhu for President - why vote for the lesser evil?"
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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11 Jul 2007 04:02:21 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did not
apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to believe
his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11"
was true. You, probably never having actually
watched the film nor bothered to check out what
Moore wrote on his website, are talking through
the hat that hides the point on top of your head.
Fredo, you have definitely dug yourself into yet
another ditch and refuse to do any research about
your stupid assertions out of the fear that you are
wrong. I'll make it easy for you. You are wrong.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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11 Jul 2007 07:54:08 AM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
"Fred Stone" <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did
not apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to
believe his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11"
was true.
No, Michelle, he didn't. Moore is a practiced liar.
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
(actually, he's up to fifty-nine deceits)
You, probably never having actually
watched the film nor bothered to check out what
Moore wrote on his website, are talking through
the hat that hides the point on top of your head.
Fredo, you have definitely dug yourself into yet
another ditch and refuse to do any research about
your stupid assertions out of the fear that you are
wrong. I'll make it easy for you. You are wrong.
I've made it real easy for you, Michelle. You're wrong.
But like every other time I've been over this, you won't bother to check
your beliefs. You've decided what to believe and no truth will ever
penetrate the wall of lies you've surrounded yourself with.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Cthulhu for President - why vote for the lesser evil?"
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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11 Jul 2007 08:45:28 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:54:08 -0400, Fred Stone <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote:
Changing your headers to weasel out of killfiles? Damn, you're pathetic!
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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11 Jul 2007 09:32:06 AM |
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnf99nno.hb1.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:54:08 -0400, Fred Stone <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote:
Changing your headers to weasel out of killfiles? Damn, you're pathetic!
You don't complain about G-Ride when he does it. Hypocrite.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Be intolerant. Because some things are just stupid"
- Ryan Dobson
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| User: "Hatter" |
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11 Jul 2007 10:15:26 AM |
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On Jul 11, 5:02 am, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <N...@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did not
apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to believe
his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11"
was true. You, probably never having actually
watched the film nor bothered to check out what
Moore wrote on his website, are talking through
the hat that hides the point on top of your head.
Fredo, you have definitely dug yourself into yet
another ditch and refuse to do any research about
your stupid assertions out of the fear that you are
wrong. I'll make it easy for you. You are wrong.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
Moore does engage in the disingenuous "question with an obvious
indictment, but no proof" tactic far too often to say that he is above
reproach. I've read his books, and watch other films and I have to say
I'm glad at least somebody is out there to point to these problems
under the the whitewash of empty suit corporate News.
Hatter
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Jul 2007 08:44:33 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:02:21 -0400, Michelle Malkin wrote:
"Fred Stone" <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did
not apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to
believe his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11" was true. You, probably
never having actually watched the film nor bothered to check out what
Moore wrote on his website, are talking through the hat that hides the
point on top of your head. Fredo, you have definitely dug yourself into
yet another ditch and refuse to do any research about your stupid
assertions out of the fear that you are wrong. I'll make it easy for
you. You are wrong.
But, but, but the blogs run by pimple faced 13 year olds say Moore lied!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: 'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight |
11 Jul 2007 09:32:52 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:4ZadnWgByNdcQwnbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:02:21 -0400, Michelle Malkin wrote:
"Fred Stone" <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN
did not apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to
believe his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11" was true. You,
probably never having actually watched the film nor bothered to check
out what Moore wrote on his website, are talking through the hat that
hides the point on top of your head. Fredo, you have definitely dug
yourself into yet another ditch and refuse to do any research about
your stupid assertions out of the fear that you are wrong. I'll make
it easy for you. You are wrong.
But, but, but the blogs run by pimple faced 13 year olds say Moore
lied!
Apparantly a pimple-faced 13-year-old is more mature than Mark Bilbo.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Be intolerant. Because some things are just stupid"
- Ryan Dobson
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: 'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight |
11 Jul 2007 10:35:06 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:02:21 -0400, Michelle Malkin wrote:
"Fred Stone" <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did
not apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to
believe his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11" was true. You, probably
never having actually watched the film nor bothered to check out what
Moore wrote on his website, are talking through the hat that hides the
point on top of your head. Fredo, you have definitely dug yourself into
yet another ditch and refuse to do any research about your stupid
assertions out of the fear that you are wrong. I'll make it easy for
you. You are wrong.
But, but, but the blogs run by pimple faced 13 year olds say Moore lied!
And don't forget that Moore is fat, so he obviously
doesn't have anything relevant to say about improving
health care!
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: 'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight |
11 Jul 2007 10:10:51 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:44:33 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:02:21 -0400, Michelle Malkin wrote:
"Fred Stone" <Nunya@Biznez.net> wrote in message
news:01d4e080$0$16776$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did
not apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to
believe his *****, Michelle.
Moore proved that everything in "Farenheit 9/11" was true. You, probably
never having actually watched the film nor bothered to check out what
Moore wrote on his website, are talking through the hat that hides the
point on top of your head. Fredo, you have definitely dug yourself into
yet another ditch and refuse to do any research about your stupid
assertions out of the fear that you are wrong. I'll make it easy for
you. You are wrong.
But, but, but the blogs run by pimple faced 13 year olds say Moore lied!
And Fred laps it up!
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: 'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight |
11 Jul 2007 12:12:00 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:55:29 -0400, Fred Stone <Nunya@Biznez.net>
wrote:
Michelle Malkin wrote:
They are lying now. In fact, Moore proved that CNN was lying. CNN did not
apologize.)
Moore lied in F911 and he's lying now. And you're stupid enough to believe
his *****, Michelle.
Fred lies abour Moore's F911 and he lies about his movie now. Too bad
no one takes traitors like him seriously.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3605 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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