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"Steve Knight" |
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29 Dec 2004 08:00:40 AM |
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Sign of the Times |
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Steve Knight
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
29 Dec 2004 10:10:51 AM |
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"Steve Knight" <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:r3d5t0tds1frjcrmenq34as43l03tu2fpt@4ax.com...
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Steve Knight
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
Well I was reading "A distant Mirror" about the 14th century and its seems
that the Christians today are nostalgic for the darkness of the Medieval
period. Those people suffered massacres and plagues and wars all the time,
and the best explanation was that the End Times were at hand. Of course,
nowadays, we have so much more confidence in ourselves, many of us don't
need no religion to explain stuff.
--
The argument that everything had a Creator because it's too complicated, is
about as reasonable as saying that it couldn't have been created since it's
too complicated.
It's about like saying that a super flea created a dog. Then
the good fleas go to a great dog in the sky, while the bad unbelieving fleas
are scratched off into a super rug to be forever hungry. If you think dogs
weren't created by a Great Flea then you are an atheist flea.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
29 Dec 2004 10:38:59 AM |
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Ike wrote:
"Steve Knight" <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:r3d5t0tds1frjcrmenq34as43l03tu2fpt@4ax.com...
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Steve Knight
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
Well I was reading "A distant Mirror" about the 14th century and its seems
that the Christians today are nostalgic for the darkness of the Medieval
period. Those people suffered massacres and plagues and wars all the time,
and the best explanation was that the End Times were at hand. Of course,
nowadays, we have so much more confidence in ourselves, many of us don't
need no religion to explain stuff.
And unfortunately, some people still trapped in the dark ages, keep the
old myths alive.
Your point about the 14th century is also made for others era's as well.
In fact, take any 100 year span of recorded history, and you can
probably find enough disasters, wars, plagues, and dictators, to fit the
"end times" mythology. Of course, you have to "span the globe" in some
cases. But does not the myth say that the entire world will end?
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Solomon \You Dirty Mother\ Kozanski" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
29 Dec 2004 01:29:34 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:573ba2-u51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
Ike wrote:
"Steve Knight" <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:r3d5t0tds1frjcrmenq34as43l03tu2fpt@4ax.com...
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Steve Knight
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
Well I was reading "A distant Mirror" about the 14th century and its
seems
that the Christians today are nostalgic for the darkness of the Medieval
period. Those people suffered massacres and plagues and wars all the
time,
and the best explanation was that the End Times were at hand. Of course,
nowadays, we have so much more confidence in ourselves, many of us don't
need no religion to explain stuff.
And unfortunately, some people still trapped in the dark ages, keep the
old myths alive.
Your point about the 14th century is also made for others era's as well.
In fact, take any 100 year span of recorded history, and you can
probably find enough disasters, wars, plagues, and dictators, to fit the
"end times" mythology. Of course, you have to "span the globe" in some
cases. But does not the myth say that the entire world will end?
and how, pray tell, does one *find* the end of a sphere?
let the chrissies answer THAT!
and speaking of "end times" where precisely in the X-stain bible do they get
all this "end of the world" nonsense from? it cant be from apocalypse,
because there's no prophecy in it..... do they get it from daniel and the
wheels?
--
Brought to you, courtesy of Kozanski's Morgue & Grill, LLC
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
29 Dec 2004 05:35:06 PM |
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Solomon "You Dirty Mother" Kozanski wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:573ba2-u51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
Ike wrote:
"Steve Knight" <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:r3d5t0tds1frjcrmenq34as43l03tu2fpt@4ax.com...
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Steve Knight
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
Well I was reading "A distant Mirror" about the 14th century and its
seems
that the Christians today are nostalgic for the darkness of the
Medieval period. Those people suffered massacres and plagues and wars
all the
time,
and the best explanation was that the End Times were at hand. Of
course, nowadays, we have so much more confidence in ourselves, many of
us don't need no religion to explain stuff.
And unfortunately, some people still trapped in the dark ages, keep the
old myths alive.
Your point about the 14th century is also made for others era's as well.
In fact, take any 100 year span of recorded history, and you can
probably find enough disasters, wars, plagues, and dictators, to fit the
"end times" mythology. Of course, you have to "span the globe" in some
cases. But does not the myth say that the entire world will end?
and how, pray tell, does one *find* the end of a sphere?
let the chrissies answer THAT!
and speaking of "end times" where precisely in the X-stain bible do they
get
all this "end of the world" nonsense from? it cant be from apocalypse,
because there's no prophecy in it..... do they get it from daniel and the
wheels?
--
Brought to you, courtesy of Kozanski's Morgue & Grill, LLC
Matthew 16, 24, 25, Luke 21, Mark 13.
See Matthew 24, end of the world (Matthew 24:3, wars, rumors of wars, false
Christs, the sun amd noon's light to fail, the stars to fall from the
heavens, Jesus to descend with his angels and gather his elect. Note
Matthew 24 and 25 are one long narrative, one long pericope, Matthew 25:31,
Jesus to gather all the people of earth and judge them. He shall be "the
King", he shall sirt on hos throne of glory, judgement day itself.
When was this to happen? In the times of "some standing here", (Matthew 16
27-8, Mark), in the lifetime of "this generation" (Matthew 24:36, Luke 21,
Mark 13), in the lifespan of the high priest (Matthew 24:30, Matthew
26:64).
That little fact the xians all ignore, if they even bother to read any of
this at all.
--
Dance, monkeys, dance!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
29 Dec 2004 02:33:21 PM |
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Solomon "You Dirty Mother" Kozanski wrote:
and how, pray tell, does one *find* the end of a sphere?
let the chrissies answer THAT!
Piffle, the same way you find the exact center of the earth. It's right
under my chair.
Read Twain's "Innocents abroad" for the complete and much funnier solution.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
29 Dec 2004 02:35:51 PM |
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Solomon "You Dirty Mother" Kozanski wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" < > wrote in message
news:573ba2-u51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
Ike wrote:
"Steve Knight" <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:r3d5t0tds1frjcrmenq34as43l03tu2fpt@4ax.com...
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Steve Knight
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
Well I was reading "A distant Mirror" about the 14th century and its
seems
that the Christians today are nostalgic for the darkness of the Medieval
period. Those people suffered massacres and plagues and wars all the
time,
and the best explanation was that the End Times were at hand. Of course,
nowadays, we have so much more confidence in ourselves, many of us don't
need no religion to explain stuff.
And unfortunately, some people still trapped in the dark ages, keep the
old myths alive.
Your point about the 14th century is also made for others era's as well.
In fact, take any 100 year span of recorded history, and you can
probably find enough disasters, wars, plagues, and dictators, to fit the
"end times" mythology. Of course, you have to "span the globe" in some
cases. But does not the myth say that the entire world will end?
and how, pray tell, does one *find* the end of a sphere?
let the chrissies answer THAT!
and speaking of "end times" where precisely in the X-stain bible do they get
all this "end of the world" nonsense from? it cant be from apocalypse,
because there's no prophecy in it..... do they get it from daniel and the
wheels?
First, from a very twisted reading of the Book of Danial, which had
nothing to do with our life time, but the Jewish captivity. Funny how
that works out.
Then, the book of Revelations plays a huge part, especially to the more
logically challenged among the bible set. Simply amazing what the lack
of food, sleep, and possibly the use of drugs can conjure up.
Lastly, the claim is made the Jeebus himself predicted the end of the
world. Of course he also is supposed to have told his followers that
some of them would live to see this happen.
More then 2000 years later, humans are still trying to fit the myth to
modern living. And failing at it in record numbers. And still, they
don't learn.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Sign of the Times |
30 Dec 2004 04:57:59 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:00:40 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
I was at the store yesterday waiting to check out when the clerk
heard over a radio that fifty thousand people had died in Asia. He
went on about how tragic it was. The guy in front of me shook his head
and said, 'It's a sign of the times.' The clerk kept going on about it
and the guy says, 'The end is near.'
It hit me how de-humanizing christianity can be when it comes to
violent death or tragic occurrences. To him an 'act of god' reinforces
how we're all scum and hurting us is good thing.
Unless he was one of the recipients of his daemon god's 'largesse.'
Here I am the immoral atheist and the first thing I think is how
tragic it was.
Christian doublespeak.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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