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"J Forbes" |
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23 Aug 2004 10:36:45 AM |
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Signal to noise |
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
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Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum at it's new home!
http://www.selectric.org
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 12:03:00 PM |
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"J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
It's going to get worse. The astroturfers are out in force
and well paid.
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 11:58:15 AM |
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J Forbes wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
Things will improve slightly after the election...
....unless the tally is close again.
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| User: "Clayton The Kaafir Ilzaad With A Lizard Gizard" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 06:52:51 PM |
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"GlennGlenn" <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in message
news:HmpWc.10416$jd4.8775@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
J Forbes wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
Things will improve slightly after the election...
...unless the tally is close again.
Well the Bush camp are already working their fingers to the bone filling in
as many ballot papers as they can, to make sure that it isn't close again,
so they don't have to bother their friends in the courts this time.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 01:15:47 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 +0000 in episode
<haoWc.31352$9Y6.4000@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> we saw our hero J
Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
It's pretty bad in here.
Then again, it's pretty bad across Usenet.
Then again, it's just damn bad pretty much all over the US...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 03:21:55 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 +0000 in episode
<haoWc.31352$9Y6.4000@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> we saw our hero J
Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
It's pretty bad in here.
Then again, it's pretty bad across Usenet.
Then again, it's just damn bad pretty much all over the US...
Maybe it's time to go into seclusion for a few months....
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum at it's new home!
http://www.selectric.org
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 03:23:07 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:21:55 +0000 in episode
<DlsWc.10986$3O3.1725@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> we saw our hero J
Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 +0000 in episode
<haoWc.31352$9Y6.4000@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> we saw our hero
J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
It's pretty bad in here.
Then again, it's pretty bad across Usenet.
Then again, it's just damn bad pretty much all over the US...
Maybe it's time to go into seclusion for a few months....
The fall of empire is just never pretty...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "W. Syme" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 04:28:44 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
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Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 07:24:38 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200 in episode
<0boki0tdp5mif7cg0mtk1gkigj6q0ubl98@4ax.com> we saw our hero W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm>:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
(psssst... he was joking with you)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Often anger is a sign of engagement with life. People who
are angry are touched deeply by the events of their lives
and feel strongly about them....Anger is just a demand for
change, a passionate wish for things to be different....
And, as it was for me, it may be the first expression of
the will to live." -- Rachel Naomi Remen
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 10:53:21 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200 in episode
<0boki0tdp5mif7cg0mtk1gkigj6q0ubl98@4ax.com> we saw our hero W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm>:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa dropped to a new
low? I sure wish the political ranters would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
(psssst... he was joking with you)
ohhhh.....
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum at it's new home!
http://www.selectric.org
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 02:58:44 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
I'm speculating that he might dislike American politics and the often negative
aspect of American political advertising and argumentation. Many American
political positions seem to be personality, rather than policy, based and are
about finding ways to trash the other guy's integrity rather than coming up with
positive policies of your own. Quite possibly this sort of tit for tat works
with American voters but from the left pond aspect of many Europeans, it looks
superficial and that's not to say European politics is squeaky clean - it isn't
and some aspects of the American political way are encroaching here, especially
in the UK.
I didn't see any such reference in the OP to hating America (the Country or its
people), like me he was just getting ***** at the fact that this newsgroup
and indeed many other newsgroups with majority American contributors are getting
swamped with OT political posts.
I have satisfactorily extracted the signal from the noise by using a kill filter
and the ng looks a lot fitter and cleaner for it.
JPG
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 11:53:26 AM |
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On Tue 24 Aug 2004 02:58:44a, JPG <me@privacy.net> kicked back with a
beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint, then
fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
I'm speculating that he might dislike American politics and the often
negative aspect of American political advertising and argumentation.
Many American political positions seem to be personality, rather than
policy, based and are about finding ways to trash the other guy's
integrity rather than coming up with positive policies of your own.
Quite possibly this sort of tit for tat works with American voters but
from the left pond aspect of many Europeans, it looks superficial and
that's not to say European politics is squeaky clean - it isn't and
some aspects of the American political way are encroaching here,
especially in the UK.
I didn't see any such reference in the OP to hating America (the
Country or its people), like me he was just getting ***** at the
fact that this newsgroup and indeed many other newsgroups with
majority American contributors are getting swamped with OT political
posts.
Well, really, our "democracy" (it's not even that, but fairly close) is
a joke in America these days. We don't vote for the better candidate;
we vote for the guy who throws the most cutting schoolyard insults.
What is the point of having the right to choose our leaders if we're
picking spoiled children in the bodies of middle-aged men to lead us?
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "W. Syme" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 06:09:28 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:58:44 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
I'm speculating that he might dislike American politics and the often negative
aspect of American political advertising and argumentation. Many American
political positions seem to be personality, rather than policy, based and are
about finding ways to trash the other guy's integrity rather than coming up with
positive policies of your own. Quite possibly this sort of tit for tat works
with American voters but from the left pond aspect of many Europeans, it looks
superficial and that's not to say European politics is squeaky clean - it isn't
and some aspects of the American political way are encroaching here, especially
in the UK.
I didn't see any such reference in the OP to hating America (the Country or its
people), like me he was just getting ***** at the fact that this newsgroup
and indeed many other newsgroups with majority American contributors are getting
swamped with OT political posts.
I have satisfactorily extracted the signal from the noise by using a kill filter
and the ng looks a lot fitter and cleaner for it.
JPG
Pssst...I wasn't serious. Damn you usenet for not alllowing my tone of
voice to shine through a post.
--
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 06:56:49 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:09:28 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:58:44 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
I'm speculating that he might dislike American politics and the often negative
aspect of American political advertising and argumentation. Many American
political positions seem to be personality, rather than policy, based and are
about finding ways to trash the other guy's integrity rather than coming up with
positive policies of your own. Quite possibly this sort of tit for tat works
with American voters but from the left pond aspect of many Europeans, it looks
superficial and that's not to say European politics is squeaky clean - it isn't
and some aspects of the American political way are encroaching here, especially
in the UK.
I didn't see any such reference in the OP to hating America (the Country or its
people), like me he was just getting ***** at the fact that this newsgroup
and indeed many other newsgroups with majority American contributors are getting
swamped with OT political posts.
I have satisfactorily extracted the signal from the noise by using a kill filter
and the ng looks a lot fitter and cleaner for it.
JPG
Pssst...I wasn't serious. Damn you usenet for not alllowing my tone of
voice to shine through a post.
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 06:59:24 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:09:28 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:58:44 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:44 +0200, W. Syme
<Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
I'm speculating that he might dislike American politics and the often negative
aspect of American political advertising and argumentation. Many American
political positions seem to be personality, rather than policy, based and are
about finding ways to trash the other guy's integrity rather than coming up with
positive policies of your own. Quite possibly this sort of tit for tat works
with American voters but from the left pond aspect of many Europeans, it looks
superficial and that's not to say European politics is squeaky clean - it isn't
and some aspects of the American political way are encroaching here, especially
in the UK.
I didn't see any such reference in the OP to hating America (the Country or its
people), like me he was just getting ***** at the fact that this newsgroup
and indeed many other newsgroups with majority American contributors are getting
swamped with OT political posts.
I have satisfactorily extracted the signal from the noise by using a kill filter
and the ng looks a lot fitter and cleaner for it.
JPG
Pssst...I wasn't serious. Damn you usenet for not alllowing my tone of
voice to shine through a post.
OK - I leapt prematurely to J Forbes' defence - I guess, like me, you find
smileys and emoticons or whatever they call them a bit "chat-room" or IM and us
"mature" people don't like to use such childish devices.
JPG
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 06:56:09 PM |
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W. Syme <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Why do you hate America so much?
Need you ask? It's that damnable "Sister Golden Hair" song. When I was a
youngster, a friend's sister found an old 45 of the song and played it
nonstop. I'll never be completely free of the pain.
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 06:43:13 PM |
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W. Syme wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
Why do you assume I hate America?
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum at it's new home!
http://www.selectric.org
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| User: "W. Syme" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
24 Aug 2004 06:08:24 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:43:13 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
W. Syme wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
Why do you hate America so much?
Why do you assume I hate America?
I don't, I'll use my <sarcasm> tags next time.
--
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Signal to noise |
23 Aug 2004 10:48:00 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:36:45 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Is it just me, or has the signal to noise ratio on aa
dropped to a new low? I sure wish the political ranters
would find a new home....
I brought up much the same theme a few days ago. I constructed a simple kill
filter in Agent that has drastically reduced the amount of political crap, it
goes something like:
Subject: liberal* or bush* or kerry* or neocon* or republican* or democrat* or
moore* or gop* or clinton* or yang* or vietnam*
Author: liberal* or yang*
You get the idea.
JPG
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