"Johnny P" <vassago9367@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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some new posts

check em out, if you dare ;)

www.signs-from-god.com

have a great day

Johnny P

I checked them out.
What was daring about it?

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On Jul 3, 8:33 am, "Johnny P" <vassago9...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

some new posts

check em out, if you dare ;)

www.signs-from-god.com

have a great day

Johnny P

Those were cool.
I remember this as a kid. Laying on the grass, watching the clouds and
letting our imagination go wild. I didn't think you could make a
religion out of it. I guess its sort of like reading tea leaves and
bones.

It always amazes me how good we humans are at seeing patterns in
random images. I some time wonder if we have some genetic compulsion
to find patterns in every thing we see and experience. It could help
explain the near universality of religion in our spaces and how we can
create such intricate convoluted belief system just to sustain the
patterns we see in our religions. It could also explain the birth of
reason and science as our attempt to discipline our compulsion and
keep the pattens we recognize and accept within the bounds of reality.

It also might explain the differences between us and neanderthal.
Assuming we both had the same basic intellectual capabilities, but
only wired sightly different. Small changes could potentially cause
big differences in how us and Neanderthal evolve and develop
technologically. For instance if human pattern matching was turned on
all the time at a subconscious level and neanderthals could only use
theirs consciously when solving problems, it would seem to explain
much of human and neanderthal development. In neaderthals, so I
speculate, with their intellect their technology would have grown
quickly but only so long as they applied their problem solving
abilities to it. What his would mean is that each new technology
probably would have been refined to a very high level but new
technologically not related to the current one probably would not be
discovered. More over as their technology improved and their standard
of living reached a point where they applied their problem solving
skill to other pursuits like social interaction or hunting itself, you
could come to a period when technological change would slow down and
essentially stops. This technology plateau would probably be pretty
stable. You would suspect as climates change and the they slowly
migrate into new areas they would have developed new technologies in
response to those changes but they could not see the new technology
and only tried to adapt current technologies to the problem. In other
words they never saw using antlers horn for spear tips and tools
because it was out side their solution space. It probably would take
some external force with an entirely new set of solution space to
direct then to change their technologies. With the exposure to
homosapiens and their culture, neanderthals would have had a hole new
set or technology like using antler horn, buttons, and even some
ornamentation in order to develop and refine as their own.

An uncontrolled ability to see patterns in humans would have produced
a very different progression in technology and development. As a seed
for the prorogation of new technologies this ability would have
probably prevented the plateauing of technology like the
neanderthals. Event though this process probably had many false
positives (apparent patterns that aren't really there) there is
sufficient positive results that over time technology would competed
and feed off each itself producing and sustaining the progress of
technology and creativity to the current day. Even the false
positives, would have had a substantial impact on our developing, in
the formation of religions and metaphysical beliefs. Much like our
technologies, these patterns we interpret that make up our belief
system get transferred from person to person and is sustained and
mutated to form th myriad of belief of mythologies we see today. It
might also explain why even given our current level of technology, how
religions and a host of other supernatural, paranormal, and pseudo
scientific beliefs continue to develop new variations and sustain
existing ones.

Although I know that there are a lot more impact our technology and
beliefs than just some ability to form patterns continuously. Our
ability to utilize symbolism and the interplay between our social
relations and our beliefs also probably had a substantial impact and
possibly could have differentiated us vs neanderthal. I do wonder if
symbolism could have evolved or been adapted in humans to directly
manage and utilize these patterns generation process we see in the
world.

Some other speculation based on this concept.
It is possible that neanderthal once satisfied was much more "at
peace" than their equivalent humans and possibly had an almost budda/
zen like character. Without some cause for second guessing,
speculation, and the proverbial rumor mills, neanderthals may not have
had worries or anxieties.
The neanderthal probably would not have developed any thing like
religion or a concept of supernatural forces just because there would
have been very little forcing them to look for them.
Could dreams have evolved as a method for taken advantage of our
pattern recognition ability by continued processing and in fact dreams
may be a direct manifestation of this ability directly. Could the idea
of "sleeping on it' have a real process behind it?
As a content seed for new idea, this could be a primary component of
intuition and creativity.

For clarification, although I separate pattern recognition from
problem solving, it would probably more accurate to say it is some
portion of problem solving that is acting subconsciously. I use
pattern recognition because how I first visualized it. My first
recognition of it was while watching a bunch of Christian with strong
religious beliefs try to resolve holes in their own belief system due
to scientific or historical debate. They were able to fill in these
holes with arguments that they obviously thought were rational almost
at will but not giving much rational thought behind it. (Some of the
ID debates and literature is are good example of it). Admittedly this
could be looked upon as just part of our normal problem solving
ability. But when I look at it along our entire history and see how
constant it appears for both technology and religion, the ability to
do this pattern recognition/problem solving appear to be content.

Hope you have enjoyed my little speculation; my utilization of my
pattern recognition abilities. This concept has been rambling around
and evolving in my head for about 7 years know. Most of what I
describe about neanderthal and humans is consistent with my understand
about them but that is quite limited.. I'm not sure if any part of it
represents reality but I figure time and science will eventually
tell. If anyone knows of any related research in this area I'd
greatly appreciative it.

MemePilot
"Believing is seeing"