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Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
"Some people have made bets on me that I'm not going to make it," she
said. "It just makes me more determined."
Pledging to purity may still draw snickers, but it's also gaining
acceptance among teens, especially those who attend Christian schools
and churches.
The silver rings aren't as trendy or flashy as the bright yellow
"Livestrong" rubber bracelets popularized by Lance Armstrong. The
rings are a subtle statement of a commitment to faith and virtue.
Teens say they're standing up to a constant barrage of sex-related
messages.
"It comes at you in every direction," said Kayla Ballmer, an
eighth-grader at Toledo Christian School. "Movies, TV, radio,
magazines. Even on clothing."
The movement is driven by Christian educators and faith-based groups
promoting abstinence education.
The Silver Ring Thing, backed by $1.2 million in federal grants since
2003, has expanded its reach in the U.S. and internationally. It has
grown most in South Africa where workers go into schools to teach
abstinence.
A year ago, founder Denny Pattyn took his message to England and
Scotland. Next up is a DVD-based program designed to reach an even
bigger audience.
The organization, based in suburban Pittsburgh, puts on road shows at
churches nationwide that include "Saturday Night Live" style skits,
music videos and a message of abstinence. Young people are given a
silver ring and decide whether they want to pledge to abstain from
sex.
Three out of four wear the ring, Pattyn said.
Critics say the message is too focused on abstinence. They say it's a
difficult thing to maintain and that once the promise is broken, it
can lead to unprotected sex and a higher risk of disease.
"The question is are they doing more damage than good?" said Deb
Hauser, vice president of Advocates for Youth, a group that promotes
education about birth control and condom use.
The abstinence-only groups, she said, teach young people that condoms
fail more often than they really do, which causes teens not to plan
for a time when they do break their pledge.
"It wipes out all the benefits of the pledge," Hauser said.
But Pattyn contends that the safe sex message taught in schools hasn't
worked. Young people ages 15 to 24 account for about half the new
cases of sexually transmitted diseases in the U.S. each year.
How the Silver Ring Thing program gets its funding is also coming
under question.
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit May 16 that accused
the federal government of improperly using taxpayer money to fund
Christian religious activities in the program.
The Bush administration has increased funding for abstinence education
and emphasizes abstinence over condoms as the primary way to stop the
transmission of HIV and sexually-transmitted diseases.
The silver ring movement began in 1994 through the Southern Baptist
Convention's publishing house, Lifeway Christian Resources in
Nashville, Tenn.
It's True Love Waits program has reached an estimated 3 million teens,
said spokeswoman Kristi Cherry. Ring sales have grown by 10 percent to
15 percent over each of the last three years.
There's no standard silver ring. Some are engraved with scripture or
phrases such as "True Love Waits" or "Faith." Some are enhanced with a
diamond or a cross.
They can be worn on any finger or even a thumb. Teens also can declare
their intention via wrist bands, bracelets, pins, watches and
T-shirts.
Gina Layman, owner of Reger's Religious Bookstore in Toledo, stopped
selling the rings a few years ago because nobody wanted them. She has
brought them back.
"Now it's a cool thing," she said. "It's mostly the parents buying for
their kids."
Chromik, an eighth-grader at Washington Junior High School in Toledo,
said the ring helps her remember her promise to God and her parents.
"Every time I'm with my boyfriend, I look at that ring and it just
reminds me I'm going to be pure," she said.
Mothers and fathers slid the rings onto the fingers of 13 teens during
a ceremony at Mayfair Plymouth Congregational Christian Church after a
weekend retreat in January where they talked about sexual purity.
"They've really embraced it. I hear so many stories from the kids.
They all seem to know someone who's gotten pregnant. It disheartens
them," said youth minister Craig Marsee.
"Every time they make a fist or move their fingers, it's a reminder of
the commitment they made," he said.
Mike Ballmer, whose daughter, Kayla, took part in the ceremony, said
she took her decision very seriously. "I don't want to say it's a
fad," he said. "Maybe it's something the youth are finally starting to
see."
Yet pledging to purity isn't easy, teens say.
Boys are less likely to wear the rings even if they make the pledge,
said Ron Rightnowar, spiritual life director at Toledo Christian.
Even some girls decide not to wear them so they don't face any
questions or teasing, Kayla Ballmer said. "That kind of defeats the
purpose," she said.
Still, silver ring sales are strong.
Jerry Rady, a jeweler in Escondido, Calif., sells about 3,500 purity
rings a year, which accounts for nearly all of his business.
He made the first ring carved with the words "True Love Waits" in
1994. "It just took over the business," Rady said.
Rady's sterling silver rings sell for $35 while the solid gold
versions are priced at $245. The rings are popular all over,
especially in the Bible Belt states of Texas and Florida.
"It's part of the whole Christian movement," Rady said. "It's more
vocal than it used to be. They don't feel like they have to hide it.
"It wouldn't have worked when I was a teenager I can tell you that."
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On the Net:
True Love Waits: http://www.lifeway.com/tlw/
Silver Ring Thing: http://www.silverringthing.com
JR Design Jewelry: http://www.scripturejewelry.com/
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02 Jun 2005 04:57:50 AM |
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
02 Jun 2005 07:10:15 AM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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03 Jun 2005 08:10:09 AM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever ....... gainsaying is your only response ......
You really are a dishonest little fool aren't you ? Trying to misdirect
reply posts to alt.idiots and alt.morons ...... do you think every one
is as stupid as you ?
as for trolling ..... once again you show your complete lack of
comprehension ......
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Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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03 Jun 2005 08:13:31 AM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:16qs911knq2q2cccnruq3bscjeui2vmncf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever .......
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:13:28 AM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:gpjs91ldgjqkjqtkph9nu7o5mvfqnlerbg@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:qMmne.220$k91.122@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever .......
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
There you go doing it again ! What a sorry excuse for a human being you
are .... and you failed to respond to my accusations ...... you just
snipped them out ......
WARNING to other posters ...... when you reply to this slime bag, check
the NG's you are replying to ...... this dishonest fuckwit redirects
replies to alt.morons and alt.idiots ...... obviously he's afraid of an
intellectual challenge .......
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
04 Jun 2005 05:29:15 AM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:16qs911knq2q2cccnruq3bscjeui2vmncf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:gpjs91ldgjqkjqtkph9nu7o5mvfqnlerbg@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:qMmne.220$k91.122@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever .......
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
There you go doing it again !
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
04 Jun 2005 12:09:18 PM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:16qs911knq2q2cccnruq3bscjeui2vmncf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:gpjs91ldgjqkjqtkph9nu7o5mvfqnlerbg@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever .......
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
There you go doing it again !
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
And who's the one who starts with baseless insults such as "Immature &
Hateful little Bigot"?
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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05 Jun 2005 03:47:23 AM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:16qs911knq2q2cccnruq3bscjeui2vmncf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to point out
his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever .......
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
There you go doing it again !
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
It's good to see dishonesty and immaturity alive and well among
Christians ...... makes me glad not to be one .......
as for you ........ FOAD ...... you're not worth the waste of good
bandwidth .....
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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05 Jun 2005 07:51:39 AM |
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"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com>
whined and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:16qs911knq2q2cccnruq3bscjeui2vmncf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:36:29 GMT, "Sir Marksman"
<noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"john" <z2345678998765432y@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:gpjs91ldgjqkjqtkph9nu7o5mvfqnlerbg@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:00:28 GMT, "Sir Marksman"
<noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in message
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[serious snippage]
: Thanks for proving my point.
You must wear funny shaped hats, pinhead.
Thanks for proving my point yet again.
Your only response has been simple remarks adding nothing to the
subject.
Did you miss the other poster's childish remarks? I am here to
point out his
inability to act mature.
Other than pointing out his inability to act mature do you have any
opinion to state on ther subject?
If not, shut the ***** up.
I see you have nothing to add but your vile mouth.
Why don't you take part in the discussion instead of indulging in
trolling ....... ?
Why don't you stop acting like a troll?
Oh how clever .......
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
There you go doing it again !
Misdirection noted and dismissed. Why don't you stop acting like a
troll?
It's good to see dishonesty and immaturity alive and well among Christians
...... makes me glad not to be one .......
There you go doing it again !
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:04:06 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
message news:l02s919m3gc6drh0mbmqukf33vfr324mtn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:18:34 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9668A51EC8233hellward@216.196.109.145...
"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in news:QT6ne.23$g5.7
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
So mr Know-it-all-cos-god-said....
What fucking
Your mouth is vile. Come back when you can act like a mature adult.
***** and die.
Thanks for proving my point.
Thank you for proving mine by snipping the relevant bits. It appears
rather easy to switch your brain off.
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01 Jun 2005 05:59:22 PM |
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"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:04:06 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
message news:l02s919m3gc6drh0mbmqukf33vfr324mtn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:18:34 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9668A51EC8233hellward@216.196.109.145...
"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in news:QT6ne.23$g5.7
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their
ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat
wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor
finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
So mr Know-it-all-cos-god-said....
What fucking
Your mouth is vile. Come back when you can act like a mature adult.
***** and die.
Thanks for proving my point.
Thank you for proving mine by snipping the relevant bits. It appears
rather easy to switch your brain off.
You have no point.
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01 Jun 2005 02:46:01 PM |
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Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
news:1u6s91dun4jakrpekafqeq3290fmo38g66@4ax.com:
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:04:06 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:l02s919m3gc6drh0mbmqukf33vfr324mtn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:18:34 GMT, "Sir Marksman"
<noneya@youwish.com> wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9668A51EC8233hellward@216.196.109.145...
"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in news:QT6ne.23$g5.7
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with
their ring thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11
year old girl who kept taking her to different doctors because
her sore throat wouldn't go away. They thought it was strep
throat. The last doctor finally found what she really has,
throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
So mr Know-it-all-cos-god-said....
What fucking
Your mouth is vile. Come back when you can act like a mature adult.
***** and die.
Thanks for proving my point.
Thank you for proving mine by snipping the relevant bits. It appears
rather easy to switch your brain off.
He has a brain ! *****, I'm glad you told me, 'cos I would never have
guessed !
:)
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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02 Jun 2005 06:32:03 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:13:55 -0500, Jez wrote:
"Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com> wrote in news:QT6ne.23$g5.7
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
So mr Know-it-all-cos-god-said....
What fucking good has preaching EVER done ?
Preaching does LOTS of good....for the preacher. Is there an organization
in the world today with more money and power than the RCC? I don't think
so. Many a preacher lives a very comfortable life by profiting off the
fears of his congregation.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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01 Jun 2005 02:08:32 AM |
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 23:59:44 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <noneya@youwish.com>
wrote:
"The other *****" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in message
news:rR6ne.12159$PR6.7571@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"Nati R" <natalie@soccer.mom.com> wrote in message
news:lijm919gsio41bs80vbm4g96s6e7qruhep@4ax.com...
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
"Some people have made bets on me that I'm not going to make it," she
said. "It just makes me more determined."
Pledging to purity may still draw snickers, but it's also gaining
acceptance among teens, especially those who attend Christian schools
and churches.
If they're snickering it's probably because they have plenty of
reasons to. As the mom of a teenager daughter who does plenty of
driving her and her friends around I can tell you I've heard stories
that would make your hair stand on end.
The girls who are pledging to stay virgins till marriage are just
engaging in other forms of sex. Pretty much everything goes except
vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is the new norm. And oral sex is at an
all time high among teenagers.
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
What a fantastic observation.
He is correct though. For centuries the church has tried to control
the populace's sexuality and failed dismally, resulting in numerous
backyard abortions, coerced marriages, persecution of gays etc., oh,
and lets not forget how all the while they have allowed kiddy fiddlers
to get away with vile crimes, and have even protected the perpetrator
while shunning the victim.
This new silver ring thing is just the latest in a long line of flawed
tactics in trying to control how and when people ***** - being a most
natural and very healthy activity.
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01 Jun 2005 05:54:10 AM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"The other *****" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in message
news:rR6ne.12159$PR6.7571@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"Nati R" <natalie@soccer.mom.com> wrote in message
news:lijm919gsio41bs80vbm4g96s6e7qruhep@4ax.com...
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
"Some people have made bets on me that I'm not going to make it," she
said. "It just makes me more determined."
Pledging to purity may still draw snickers, but it's also gaining
acceptance among teens, especially those who attend Christian schools
and churches.
If they're snickering it's probably because they have plenty of
reasons to. As the mom of a teenager daughter who does plenty of
driving her and her friends around I can tell you I've heard stories
that would make your hair stand on end.
The girls who are pledging to stay virgins till marriage are just
engaging in other forms of sex. Pretty much everything goes except
vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is the new norm. And oral sex is at an
all time high among teenagers.
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
sorry dipshit ....... it's an historically provable phenomenon .......
why do you think the fall of the Roman Empire coincided with its
acceptance of Christianity ? ......
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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01 Jun 2005 10:14:24 AM |
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Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in news:429d93dd$0$11958
$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
Sir Marksman wrote:
Snippage....
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
sorry dipshit ....... it's an historically provable phenomenon .......
why do you think the fall of the Roman Empire coincided with its
acceptance of Christianity ? ......
ROFLMAO !!!!
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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| User: "Icono Clast" |
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02 Jun 2005 06:12:07 AM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
The EVIDENCE proves that you're wrong!
Compare the results of informed and sexually-active children in
Holland, for example, with the (uninformed as you) ignorant and
sexually-active children in the USA.
The EVIDENCE proves that you're wrong!
___________________________________________________________________
A San Franciscan whose reverence for each god is equal.
< http://geocities.com/dancefest/ >-< http://geocities.com/iconoc/ >
ICQ: < http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 > ---> IClast at SFbay Net
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02 Jun 2005 07:11:21 AM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Icono Clast <IClast@jps.net> whined
and lied again:
Sir Marksman wrote:
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
That's what happens when 'preaching' replaces 'teaching.'
That is *your* ignorant opinion kid.
The EVIDENCE proves that you're wrong!
Nope, the evidence proves you to be foolish.
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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31 May 2005 05:46:44 AM |
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In article <lijm919gsio41bs80vbm4g96s6e7qruhep@4ax.com>,
natalie@soccer.mom.com says...
If they're snickering it's probably because they have plenty of
reasons to. As the mom of a teenager daughter who does plenty of
driving her and her friends around I can tell you I've heard stories
that would make your hair stand on end.
The girls who are pledging to stay virgins till marriage are just
engaging in other forms of sex. Pretty much everything goes except
vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is the new norm. And oral sex is at an
all time high among teenagers.
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
You know that parenting also includes teaching your children about safe
sex! Being a parent myself, my wife and I have already planned out "the
talk" (although my wife wants to tell the kid "get someone pregnant and
you die. Die a lot!") Safe sex practices are certainly a component of
"the talk".
Cheers,
TGHO
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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30 May 2005 09:05:29 PM |
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Nati R wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
<snip>
If they're snickering it's probably because they have plenty of
reasons to. As the mom of a teenager daughter who does plenty of
driving her and her friends around I can tell you I've heard stories
that would make your hair stand on end.
The girls who are pledging to stay virgins till marriage are just
engaging in other forms of sex. Pretty much everything goes except
vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is the new norm. And oral sex is at an
all time high among teenagers.
A report on "60 Minutes" by Ed Bradley said the same things.
I didn't record it so I don't recall the whole conversation,
but some clown in the US government saying, "They shouldn't
have sex," then to Bradley's obvious next question, "What if
they do? Would you encourage them to use condoms?", the moron
said "No, they should never use condoms," and said something
to the effect that condoms spread diseases.
I swear, mouthpiece in question was a closet queen, he had all
the mannerisms and the voice that I've seen in many gay men.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"You won't find any opposition to the idea of evolution among
sophisticated, educated theologians. It comes from an
exceedingly retarded, primitive version of religion, which
unfortunately is at present undergoing an epidemic in the
United States."
- Richard Dawkins
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31 May 2005 07:06:48 PM |
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:43:00 -0400, Nati R wrote:
If they're snickering it's probably because they have plenty of
reasons to. As the mom of a teenager daughter who does plenty of
driving her and her friends around I can tell you I've heard stories
that would make your hair stand on end.
The girls who are pledging to stay virgins till marriage are just
engaging in other forms of sex. Pretty much everything goes except
vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is the new norm. And oral sex is at an
all time high among teenagers.
If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
http://technicalvirgin.com/
--
phillip brown
"***** doesn't just happen. there is always an *****-hole involved"
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31 May 2005 07:29:02 PM |
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:43:00 -0400, in rec.travel.europe, Nati R <natalie@soccer.mom.com>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... If they're snickering it's probably because they have plenty of
... reasons to. As the mom of a teenager daughter who does plenty of
... driving her and her friends around I can tell you I've heard stories
... that would make your hair stand on end.
...
... The girls who are pledging to stay virgins till marriage are just
... engaging in other forms of sex. Pretty much everything goes except
... vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is the new norm. And oral sex is at an
... all time high among teenagers.
...
... If these people think they're doing such a good thing with their ring
... thing, tell them to talk to the mother of the 11 year old girl who
... kept taking her to different doctors because her sore throat wouldn't
... go away. They thought it was strep throat. The last doctor finally
... found what she really has, throat gonorrhea.
...
... Welcome to parenting in the 21 century.
Jeremy, are you taking notes ?
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30 May 2005 12:46:43 PM |
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more like the brown ring thing then.
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01 Jun 2005 09:26:35 PM |
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Fake Name wrote:
*****************************************
The message below came through a remailer.
Take that into account if you read the message.
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
I firmly believe teens should have sex all they wants. HIV will spread
quicker, and kill off the undesirable at young age. Us Humans are
animals. Whe we smell our dead, abstinence is secure!
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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31 May 2005 05:40:43 AM |
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In article <8XZEQLHG38502.4974305556@si93kru1.poster>,
bounce@parsifal.ath.cx says...
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
She probably can suck a golf ball through 30m of garden hose!!
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
=======================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Deep Foiled Malls" |
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30 May 2005 01:25:47 PM |
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On 30 May 2005 16:01:25 -0000, Fake Name <bounce@parsifal.ath.cx>
wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
"Some people have made bets on me that I'm not going to make it," she
said. "It just makes me more determined."
Shagging is really good for you, so why the hell do they want to
discourage it?
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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30 May 2005 02:02:28 PM |
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On 30 May 2005, Fake Name dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
*****************************************
The message below came through a remailer.
Take that into account if you read the message.
This newsgroup, alt.atheism, has been victimized
By one or more people using this and other remailers
to disrupt the newsgroup or stalk one of the regular posters.
As a last resort, before blocking the newsgroup entirely,
the remailer is prefacing the newsgroup post with this message
to alert readers as to how much they should believe what this poster
is saying.
If this warning isn't enough to keep the newsgroup from being
disrupted, or its denizens from being stalked, send a message
to the complaint address in the header of this message.
*****************************************
What's with all the remailers today?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't
think there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and
parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face
white and praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
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30 May 2005 02:45:23 PM |
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Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in
news:Xns96667AAF46880vicman@216.196.97.136:
On 30 May 2005, Fake Name dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
*****************************************
The message below came through a remailer.
Take that into account if you read the message.
This newsgroup, alt.atheism, has been victimized
By one or more people using this and other remailers
to disrupt the newsgroup or stalk one of the regular posters.
As a last resort, before blocking the newsgroup entirely,
the remailer is prefacing the newsgroup post with this message
to alert readers as to how much they should believe what this poster
is saying.
If this warning isn't enough to keep the newsgroup from being
disrupted, or its denizens from being stalked, send a message
to the complaint address in the header of this message.
*****************************************
What's with all the remailers today?
Cowards? Sock puppets? Asswipes?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat.
-- bumper sticker
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31 May 2005 07:13:43 AM |
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:01:25 +0000, Fake Name wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
Typical Bush mentality: instead of giving teens reliable information and
realistic counseling, they try to promote ideology over rationality, then
insist that if people just behaved "right", we wouldn't have all these
problems. Then the Repubs claim that liberals "hate America", because we
are embarrassed by, and struggling against, the anti-intellectualism that
is infesting our political leaders.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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31 May 2005 02:09:23 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:01:25 +0000, Fake Name wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
Typical Bush mentality: instead of giving teens reliable information and
realistic counseling, they try to promote ideology over rationality, then
insist that if people just behaved "right", we wouldn't have all these
problems. Then the Repubs claim that liberals "hate America", because we
are embarrassed by, and struggling against, the anti-intellectualism that
is infesting our political leaders.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office.
The problem is the fuckwits that voted for him.
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