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30 May 2005 11:01:25 AM |
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Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
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Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity
The Associated Press
May 27, 2005
TOLEDO, Ohio - When Katie Chromik put a silver ring on her finger and
promised at church to stay away from sex until marriage, her junior
high friends giggled.
"Some people have made bets on me that I'm not going to make it," she
said. "It just makes me more determined."
Pledging to purity may still draw snickers, but it's also gaining
acceptance among teens, especially those who attend Christian schools
and churches.
The silver rings aren't as trendy or flashy as the bright yellow
"Livestrong" rubber bracelets popularized by Lance Armstrong. The
rings are a subtle statement of a commitment to faith and virtue.
Teens say they're standing up to a constant barrage of sex-related
messages.
"It comes at you in every direction," said Kayla Ballmer, an
eighth-grader at Toledo Christian School. "Movies, TV, radio,
magazines. Even on clothing."
The movement is driven by Christian educators and faith-based groups
promoting abstinence education.
The Silver Ring Thing, backed by $1.2 million in federal grants since
2003, has expanded its reach in the U.S. and internationally. It has
grown most in South Africa where workers go into schools to teach
abstinence.
A year ago, founder Denny Pattyn took his message to England and
Scotland. Next up is a DVD-based program designed to reach an even
bigger audience.
The organization, based in suburban Pittsburgh, puts on road shows at
churches nationwide that include "Saturday Night Live" style skits,
music videos and a message of abstinence. Young people are given a
silver ring and decide whether they want to pledge to abstain from
sex.
Three out of four wear the ring, Pattyn said.
Critics say the message is too focused on abstinence. They say it's a
difficult thing to maintain and that once the promise is broken, it
can lead to unprotected sex and a higher risk of disease.
"The question is are they doing more damage than good?" said Deb
Hauser, vice president of Advocates for Youth, a group that promotes
education about birth control and condom use.
The abstinence-only groups, she said, teach young people that condoms
fail more often than they really do, which causes teens not to plan
for a time when they do break their pledge.
"It wipes out all the benefits of the pledge," Hauser said.
But Pattyn contends that the safe sex message taught in schools hasn't
worked. Young people ages 15 to 24 account for about half the new
cases of sexually transmitted diseases in the U.S. each year.
How the Silver Ring Thing program gets its funding is also coming
under question.
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit May 16 that accused
the federal government of improperly using taxpayer money to fund
Christian religious activities in the program.
The Bush administration has increased funding for abstinence education
and emphasizes abstinence over condoms as the primary way to stop the
transmission of HIV and sexually-transmitted diseases.
The silver ring movement began in 1994 through the Southern Baptist
Convention's publishing house, Lifeway Christian Resources in
Nashville, Tenn.
It's True Love Waits program has reached an estimated 3 million teens,
said spokeswoman Kristi Cherry. Ring sales have grown by 10 percent to
15 percent over each of the last three years.
There's no standard silver ring. Some are engraved with scripture or
phrases such as "True Love Waits" or "Faith." Some are enhanced with a
diamond or a cross.
They can be worn on any finger or even a thumb. Teens also can declare
their intention via wrist bands, bracelets, pins, watches and
T-shirts.
Gina Layman, owner of Reger's Religious Bookstore in Toledo, stopped
selling the rings a few years ago because nobody wanted them. She has
brought them back.
"Now it's a cool thing," she said. "It's mostly the parents buying for
their kids."
Chromik, an eighth-grader at Washington Junior High School in Toledo,
said the ring helps her remember her promise to God and her parents.
"Every time I'm with my boyfriend, I look at that ring and it just
reminds me I'm going to be pure," she said.
Mothers and fathers slid the rings onto the fingers of 13 teens during
a ceremony at Mayfair Plymouth Congregational Christian Church after a
weekend retreat in January where they talked about sexual purity.
"They've really embraced it. I hear so many stories from the kids.
They all seem to know someone who's gotten pregnant. It disheartens
them," said youth minister Craig Marsee.
"Every time they make a fist or move their fingers, it's a reminder of
the commitment they made," he said.
Mike Ballmer, whose daughter, Kayla, took part in the ceremony, said
she took her decision very seriously. "I don't want to say it's a
fad," he said. "Maybe it's something the youth are finally starting to
see."
Yet pledging to purity isn't easy, teens say.
Boys are less likely to wear the rings even if they make the pledge,
said Ron Rightnowar, spiritual life director at Toledo Christian.
Even some girls decide not to wear them so they don't face any
questions or teasing, Kayla Ballmer said. "That kind of defeats the
purpose," she said.
Still, silver ring sales are strong.
Jerry Rady, a jeweler in Escondido, Calif., sells about 3,500 purity
rings a year, which accounts for nearly all of his business.
He made the first ring carved with the words "True Love Waits" in
1994. "It just took over the business," Rady said.
Rady's sterling silver rings sell for $35 while the solid gold
versions are priced at $245. The rings are popular all over,
especially in the Bible Belt states of Texas and Florida.
"It's part of the whole Christian movement," Rady said. "It's more
vocal than it used to be. They don't feel like they have to hide it.
"It wouldn't have worked when I was a teenager I can tell you that."
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On the Net:
True Love Waits: http://www.lifeway.com/tlw/
Silver Ring Thing: http://www.silverringthing.com
JR Design Jewelry: http://www.scripturejewelry.com/
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01 Jun 2005 10:15:48 AM |
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wrote in
news:1117566563.453874.146270@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
MarkA wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:01:25 +0000, Fake Name wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity The Associated
Press May 27, 2005
Typical Bush mentality: instead of giving teens reliable information
and realistic counseling, they try to promote ideology over
rationality, then insist that if people just behaved "right", we
wouldn't have all these problems. Then the Repubs claim that
liberals "hate America", because we are embarrassed by, and
struggling against, the anti-intellectualism that is infesting our
political leaders.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office.
The problem is the fuckwits that voted for him.
Abso-fucking-lutely !!!
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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| User: "MarkA" |
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31 May 2005 03:59:14 PM |
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:09:23 -0700, michaelnewport wrote:
MarkA wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:01:25 +0000, Fake Name wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity The Associated
Press May 27, 2005
Typical Bush mentality: instead of giving teens reliable information and
realistic counseling, they try to promote ideology over rationality,
then insist that if people just behaved "right", we wouldn't have all
these problems. Then the Repubs claim that liberals "hate America",
because we are embarrassed by, and struggling against, the
anti-intellectualism that is infesting our political leaders.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
fuckwits that voted for him.
Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA look like a
country of rubes. Actually, I don't even blame the people that voted for
him. His campaigns of 2000 and 2004 were masterful works of public
opinion engineering. People will buy ***** in a sack if you market it well.
Look what Rove did to Kerry in 2004: Kerry went to Vietnam and got shot
up a couple times, came home, and was an activist to help end the war.
Bush got out of going at all by being signed up with the ANG, and can't
even find any documentation that he ever showed up for duty. If you had
told me in the spring of 2004 that the Republican spin machine would be
able to make Kerry look like the coward and Bush look like the war hero, I
would have split my gut laughing. I'm not laughing now.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "" |
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01 Jun 2005 07:36:31 AM |
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MarkA wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:09:23 -0700, michaelnewport wrote:
MarkA wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:01:25 +0000, Fake Name wrote:
Silver rings a reminder of teens' pledge to purity The Associated
Press May 27, 2005
Typical Bush mentality: instead of giving teens reliable information and
realistic counseling, they try to promote ideology over rationality,
then insist that if people just behaved "right", we wouldn't have all
these problems. Then the Repubs claim that liberals "hate America",
because we are embarrassed by, and struggling against, the
anti-intellectualism that is infesting our political leaders.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
fuckwits that voted for him.
Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA look like a
country of rubes. Actually, I don't even blame the people that voted for
him. His campaigns of 2000 and 2004 were masterful works of public
opinion engineering. People will buy ***** in a sack if you market it well.
Look what Rove did to Kerry in 2004: Kerry went to Vietnam and got shot
up a couple times, came home, and was an activist to help end the war.
Bush got out of going at all by being signed up with the ANG, and can't
even find any documentation that he ever showed up for duty. If you had
told me in the spring of 2004 that the Republican spin machine would be
able to make Kerry look like the coward and Bush look like the war hero, I
would have split my gut laughing. I'm not laughing now.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
People will buy ***** in a sack if you market it well.
then it is the people's fault for buying the sack. Caveat emptor.
If you had
told me in the spring of 2004 that the Republican spin machine would be
able to make Kerry look like the coward and Bush look like the war hero, I
would have split my gut laughing. I'm not laughing now.
because you trusted the media.
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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31 May 2005 07:58:39 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
fuckwits that voted for him.
Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA look like a
country of rubes.
We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes.
I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the reigns
to the country.
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| User: "Alan Street" |
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01 Jun 2005 08:57:04 AM |
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In article <d7j17v011kp@enews4.newsguy.com>, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
€ MarkA wrote:
€
€ >>Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
€ >>fuckwits that voted for him.
€ >
€ >
€ > Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA look like a
€ > country of rubes.
€
€ We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes.
€
€ I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the reigns
€ to the country.
€
Then you'll LOVE this little gem:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.plug/index.html
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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01 Jun 2005 08:54:27 PM |
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Alan Street wrote:
In article <d7j17v011kp@enews4.newsguy.com>, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
€ MarkA wrote:
€
€ >>Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
€ >>fuckwits that voted for him.
€ >
€ >
€ > Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA look like a
€ > country of rubes.
€
€ We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes.
€
€ I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the reigns
€ to the country.
€
Then you'll LOVE this little gem:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.plug/index.html
Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking cold in
winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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02 Jun 2005 04:45:06 AM |
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In article <d7losl01h6p@enews1.newsguy.com>, says...
Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking cold in
winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
We'll only let you in if you can drink fourteen cans of Aussie beer! And
you vote Green. ;)
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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02 Jun 2005 11:18:20 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d09802a33ea37379896e9@freenews.iinet.net.au...
: In article <d7losl01h6p@enews1.newsguy.com>,
says...
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: > Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
: >
: > I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking
cold in
: > winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
:
: We'll only let you in if you can drink fourteen cans of Aussie beer!
And
: you vote Green. ;)
Would that be good Aussie beer, or Foster's?
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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02 Jun 2005 04:57:08 PM |
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In article <gjGne.6894$4u.4351@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
misleart@ameritech.net says...
Would that be good Aussie beer, or Foster's?
Fosters is crap. You know the reason we export it, right? Because no
Aussie will drink it!
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
=======================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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02 Jun 2005 10:44:24 PM |
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The Great Hairy One wrote:
In article <gjGne.6894$4u.4351@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
misleart@ameritech.net says...
Would that be good Aussie beer, or Foster's?
Fosters is crap. You know the reason we export it, right? Because no
Aussie will drink it!
And even then, it probably tastes better than most American beer. (I
do not drink beer, so I would not know. But I do know that most
American beer is little better than ***** water.)
Mark Sebree
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
=======================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
(HEAR, HEAR!)
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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03 Jun 2005 04:21:55 AM |
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In article <1117770264.802403.168630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
And even then, it probably tastes better than most American beer. (I
do not drink beer, so I would not know. But I do know that most
American beer is little better than ***** water.)
I've had Budwiser, it was awful. Although several of the yanks on this
ng say that the various microbreweries in the US produce good beers.
(HEAR, HEAR!)
A roleplayer, are you?
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Deep Foiled Malls" |
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03 Jun 2005 05:49:10 AM |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:21:55 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@geemail.com> wrote:
In article <1117770264.802403.168630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
And even then, it probably tastes better than most American beer. (I
do not drink beer, so I would not know. But I do know that most
American beer is little better than ***** water.)
I've had Budwiser, it was awful. Although several of the yanks on this
ng say that the various microbreweries in the US produce good beers.
This is indeed correct. There are plenty of good microbreweries in the
US.
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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03 Jun 2005 05:42:05 PM |
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In article <gdh0a1pck8cknli639be8vdh5eupfv8bf3@4ax.com>,
deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu says...
This is indeed correct. There are plenty of good microbreweries in the
US.
Yeah, when we come to visit, I'm planning on trying some of them.
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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03 Jun 2005 08:32:52 AM |
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Mark Sebree wrote:
The Great Hairy One wrote:
In article <gjGne.6894$4u.4351@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
misleart@ameritech.net says...
Would that be good Aussie beer, or Foster's?
Fosters is crap. You know the reason we export it, right? Because no
Aussie will drink it!
And even then, it probably tastes better than most American beer. (I
do not drink beer, so I would not know. But I do know that most
American beer is little better than ***** water.)
Mark Sebree
why is American Beer like making Love in a canoe ? ..........
Because it is fucking close to water ........
( actually, there are some really good beers in Boston )
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "MarkA" |
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02 Jun 2005 04:34:35 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:18:20 +0000, Misleart Chuff wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d09802a33ea37379896e9@freenews.iinet.net.au...
: In article <d7losl01h6p@enews1.newsguy.com>,
says...
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: > Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
: >
: > I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking
cold in
: > winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
:
: We'll only let you in if you can drink fourteen cans of Aussie beer!
And
: you vote Green. ;)
Would that be good Aussie beer, or Foster's?
Hey! Foster's is a MAJOR sponsor of Formula 1 racing! Their beer doesn't
have to taste good.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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| Title: Re: Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
02 Jun 2005 07:04:53 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:18:20 +0000, Misleart Chuff wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d09802a33ea37379896e9@freenews.iinet.net.au...
: In article <d7losl01h6p@enews1.newsguy.com>,
says...
:
: > Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
: >
: > I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking
cold in
: > winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
:
: We'll only let you in if you can drink fourteen cans of Aussie beer!
And
: you vote Green. ;)
Would that be good Aussie beer, or Foster's?
Hey! Foster's is a MAJOR sponsor of Formula 1 racing! Their beer doesn't
have to taste good.
If I need to drink 14 cans of it, it damn well better taste good.
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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03 Jun 2005 04:18:45 AM |
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In article <d7o6r60gvl@enews4.newsguy.com>, says...
If I need to drink 14 cans of it, it damn well better taste good.
Mate, I wouldn't force my worst enemy to drink 14 cans of Fosters! That
stuff is crap. Nah, 14 cans of VB will do it. ;)
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
=======================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Deep Foiled Malls" |
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03 Jun 2005 08:41:07 AM |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:18:45 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@geemail.com> wrote:
In article <d7o6r60gvl@enews4.newsguy.com>, says...
If I need to drink 14 cans of it, it damn well better taste good.
Mate, I wouldn't force my worst enemy to drink 14 cans of Fosters! That
stuff is crap. Nah, 14 cans of VB will do it. ;)
....and on grand final day, that's to be done before the game starts...
--
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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03 Jun 2005 05:41:13 PM |
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In article <jfr0a1l37dqfgndmih46dc3niqc9lt73fg@4ax.com>,
deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu says...
...and on grand final day, that's to be done before the game starts...
And repeated by the end of the first half.
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Padraig Breathnach" |
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03 Jun 2005 08:48:49 AM |
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The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@geemail.com> wrote:
Mate, I wouldn't force my worst enemy to drink 14 cans of Fosters! That
stuff is crap. Nah, 14 cans of VB will do it. ;)
And afterwards, you can produce 14 cans of Fosters.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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03 Jun 2005 05:41:34 PM |
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In article <nsn0a19mcltsvukv7u3cs8s8nedo75nlsr@4ax.com>,
padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie says...
And afterwards, you can produce 14 cans of Fosters.
Bwahahahahahaha!! Very true!
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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02 Jun 2005 06:29:15 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:54:27 -0500, Tim McGaughy wrote:
Alan Street wrote:
In article <d7j17v011kp@enews4.newsguy.com>, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
¤ MarkA wrote:
¤
¤ >>Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is
the ¤ >>fuckwits that voted for him.
¤ >
¤ >
¤ > Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA look
like a ¤ > country of rubes.
¤
¤ We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes. ¤
¤ I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the
reigns ¤ to the country.
¤
Then you'll LOVE this little gem:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.plug/index.html
Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking cold in
winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
When I despair about how much GW is fucking up my country, I can look at
something like this and hope that by 2008, even the most dedicated
ditto-head will no longer be able to deny what a mistake it was to give
the Repubs control of both White House and Congress. Government (in the
USA) seems to work best when the White House and Congress are at odds.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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| Title: Re: Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
02 Jun 2005 04:57:59 PM |
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In article <pan.2005.06.02.11.29.13.464751@stopspam.net>,
manthony@stopspam.net says...
When I despair about how much GW is fucking up my country, I can look at
something like this and hope that by 2008, even the most dedicated
ditto-head will no longer be able to deny what a mistake it was to give
the Repubs control of both White House and Congress. Government (in the
USA) seems to work best when the White House and Congress are at odds.
You're assuming you will get to vote in 2008. I wouldn't bet on it.
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA it all over!
And a SMASHing good time for all of us
=======================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplaying isn't just a lifestyle
It's a higher calling.
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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| Title: Re: Silver Ring Thing teaches teens sex without condoms |
02 Jun 2005 05:07:22 AM |
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Tim McGaughy wrote:
Alan Street wrote:
In article <d7j17v011kp@enews4.newsguy.com>, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
€ MarkA wrote:
€ € >>Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
€ >>fuckwits that voted for him.
€ > € > € > Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA
look like a
€ > country of rubes.
€ € We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes.
€ € I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the
reigns € to the country.
€
Then you'll LOVE this little gem:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.plug/index.html
Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking cold in
winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
Glad to have you ...... it's like San Diego without the attitude
......... errr ..... could you bring some rain ..... ?
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Alan Street" |
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02 Jun 2005 10:56:37 AM |
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In article <429eda66$0$11958$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Masked
Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
€ Tim McGaughy wrote:
€ > Alan Street wrote:
€ >
€ >> In article <d7j17v011kp@enews4.newsguy.com>, Tim McGaughy
€ >> <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
€ >>
€ >> € MarkA wrote:
€ >> € € >>Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
€ >> € >>fuckwits that voted for him.
€ >> € > € > € > Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA
€ >> look like a
€ >> € > country of rubes.
€ >> € € We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes.
€ >> € € I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the
€ >> reigns € to the country.
€ >> €
€ >> Then you'll LOVE this little gem:
€ >>
€ >> http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.plug/index.html
€ >
€ >
€ > Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
€ >
€ > I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking cold in
€ > winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
€ >
€
€ Glad to have you ...... it's like San Diego without the attitude
€ ........ errr ..... could you bring some rain ..... ?
San Diego has an attitude?
My first impression after moving here was seeing drivers at stop lights
say, "whoa, dude, the light is like, green. Maybe I should, like, go."
Sometimes I think we're just a little too laid back :-)
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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03 Jun 2005 08:26:16 AM |
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Alan Street wrote:
In article <429eda66$0$11958$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Masked
Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
€ Tim McGaughy wrote:
€ > Alan Street wrote:
€ >
€ >> In article <d7j17v011kp@enews4.newsguy.com>, Tim McGaughy
€ >> <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
€ >>
€ >> € MarkA wrote:
€ >> € € >>Why do you blame Bush, he only stood for office. The problem is the
€ >> € >>fuckwits that voted for him.
€ >> € > € > € > Because Bush is the fuckwit with the power to make the USA
€ >> look like a
€ >> € > country of rubes.
€ >> € € We elected him. We ARE a country of rubes.
€ >> € € I blame Bush AND all the little idiots who voted to give him the
€ >> reigns € to the country.
€ >> €
€ >> Then you'll LOVE this little gem:
€ >>
€ >> http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.plug/index.html
€ >
€ >
€ > Seen it already. Ran across it at work today.
€ >
€ > I'd have already moved to Canada, except that it's too fucking cold in
€ > winter. But Australia is looking better every day.
€ >
€
€ Glad to have you ...... it's like San Diego without the attitude
€ ........ errr ..... could you bring some rain ..... ?
San Diego has an attitude?
My first impression after moving here was seeing drivers at stop lights
say, "whoa, dude, the light is like, green. Maybe I should, like, go."
Sometimes I think we're just a little too laid back :-)
Yeah ..... I gotta admit, laid back accurately describes San Diego, it's
my favourite place in the USA ...... but it sounded funny when I wrote
it :)
Actually it is so much like Sydney ( actually, more like the Gold Coast
)it is spooky ..... you even have Gum Trees there .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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