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"neo" |
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08 Jun 2006 04:06:53 AM |
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Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and female?
Terrorists, homosexuals are mentally ill people and must be eliminated.
If such things are legalised, then in future people may eat human
bodies, they will do other disgusting things and will ask, what is
wrong with it?
Eliminate them
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| User: "Startlemyerfieldson" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
08 Jun 2006 08:04:09 AM |
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"neo" <0universe0@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
Terrorists, homosexuals are mentally ill people and must be
eliminated.
If such things are legalised, then in future people may eat human
bodies, they will do other disgusting things and will ask, what is
wrong with it?
Eliminate them
So, when you're idle, and you take a moment to reflect and ponder
the things and ways of the world, *this* is what you think about?
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| User: "Jack F. Twist" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and Mr Bush/Fox News |
08 Jun 2006 04:10:42 AM |
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History will record George W. Bush as the biggest terrorist in
U.S. history, and the biggest in world history since Adolf Hitler.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
08 Jun 2006 05:00:09 AM |
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In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
mammal species?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
01 Jul 2006 11:30:45 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
mammal species?
Hello,
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
the very young to the very old. They have no concept of morality.
True, humans also fornicate. But humans were given morality, so there
are built-in rules to follow concerning such things. Even most
cultures find that sex with children, or with another person's husband
or wife, is wrong. Now if we were just a product of evolution and were
on equal par with the animals (like your suggestion above with
homosexuality), then doing such things should make no difference to
us. But it does. So in this regard, one cannot compare the actions of
animals to those of humans.
The Bible clearly shows that God does not approve of homosexuality.
But the Bible also shows that homosexuals CAN change if they so choose
to. (see below) Even if we assume for the moment that they have those
tendencies because of biological reasons (and this has not been 100%
proven), as long as they can change, God will hold them accountable.
It is similar to serial murderer. There also have been suggestions
from the scientific communities that certain people are born with the
'murder gene'. That supposedly makes them susceptible to that kind of
conduct. But even assuming that to be true (again no 100% proof yet),
no court as of yet has permitted that argument to be valid for
excusing such a murderer, regardless of that person's inner feelings
on the matter. That person still has a choice not to do those things.
It may be hard, but the choice is still available.
Yes, homosexuals CAN make a choice, either to serve God the way God
wants, or to serve themselves. 1 Co 6:9-11,
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor
adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor
thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But
you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV)
Notice again verse 11, "And that is what some of you were. But you
were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of
the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
So it is possible for a homosexual to change.
Sincerely, James
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| User: "Phyltress" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
01 Jul 2006 11:38:39 AM |
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"James" <bireda@allvantage.com> being too stupid to do anything else, lied
news:397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com...
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
Hello,
(everything else this imbecile said snipped, since it's not worth reading
again)
Sincerely, James
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Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
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http://www.watchtower.org
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James,
You're not only an idiot, but a LYING idiot. There is no god, no hell, no
heaven, your book of lies is full of *****, and you are a feebleminded moron,
who knows nothing about ANYTHING worth knowing, and has nothing to say worth
saying. You're a sock puppet for some jw without a thought of your own,
ever in your pointless life. It's none of your business what consenting
adults do in bed. Why are you so interested? If they want your advice,
they'll ASK.
*****, busybody.
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Phyltress, Princess of Atheism, Denizen of Darkness #54
Patriotism may be the final refuge of fools and scoundrels, but xtianity is
the FIRST.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
01 Jul 2006 11:42:30 AM |
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In News 397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com,, James at
bireda@allvantage.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
Hello,
The Bible clearly shows that God
Hello again...
I meant to address this earlier. Since the U.S. is not a Judeo/Christian
Theocratic entity, we are not obliged to follow the edicts of your
mythological deity. So that part of your post is also an irrelevancy to
anything I said previously.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
01 Jul 2006 11:34:50 AM |
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In News 397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com,, James at
bireda@allvantage.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
Hello,
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
Hello to you as well.
Which is irrelevant to the point. If it exists in nature, then it must have
been an aim of nature, otherwise it wouldn't exist. I did not address the
right/good/moral vs. wrong/bad/immoral question in my statement. The
question was whether or not it was an "aim of nature" only. That which is
naturally is not always moral, and that which is moral is not always
natural. These are seperable issues.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Seamus" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
01 Jul 2006 07:22:04 PM |
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James wrote:
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
the very young to the very old. They have no concept of morality.
Humans ARE animals. You may try to deny and ignore that fact all you
want, but humainy is basically a frontal lobe away from being a
grunting, primal creature (and, if you've ever been in a locker room,
or watched a congressional or presidential debate, we're still primal
beasts, anyway).
Christianity doesn't have any grasp on real nature to begin with, so
it's rather amusing to hear a Christian lecture on the topic.
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| User: "Brad Filippone" |
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02 Jul 2006 07:24:42 AM |
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Seamus (fomorianwolf@yahoo.com) wrote:
: James wrote:
: > Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
: > For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
: > the very young to the very old. They have no concept of morality.
: Humans ARE animals. You may try to deny and ignore that fact all you
: want, but humainy is basically a frontal lobe away from being a
: grunting, primal creature (and, if you've ever been in a locker room,
: or watched a congressional or presidential debate, we're still primal
: beasts, anyway).
How about parents looking for that one special toy for their children at
Christmas, that every other parent is also trying to get?
Brad
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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02 Jul 2006 02:03:45 PM |
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Brad Filippone wrote:
Seamus (fomorianwolf@yahoo.com) wrote:
James wrote:
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and
humans. For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They
fornicate with the very young to the very old. They have no concept
of morality.
Humans ARE animals. You may try to deny and ignore that fact all you
want, but humainy is basically a frontal lobe away from being a
grunting, primal creature (and, if you've ever been in a locker room,
or watched a congressional or presidential debate, we're still primal
beasts, anyway).
How about parents looking for that one special toy for their children
at Christmas, that every other parent is also trying to get?
How about birds placing that one special rock in front of another bird so
they can make children.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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02 Jul 2006 07:39:30 AM |
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In News e88dua$uog$6@Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca,, Brad Filippone at
al019@chebucto.ns.ca, typed this:
Seamus (fomorianwolf@yahoo.com) wrote:
James wrote:
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and
humans. For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They
fornicate with the very young to the very old. They have no concept
of morality.
Humans ARE animals. You may try to deny and ignore that fact all you
want, but humainy is basically a frontal lobe away from being a
grunting, primal creature (and, if you've ever been in a locker room,
or watched a congressional or presidential debate, we're still primal
beasts, anyway).
How about parents looking for that one special toy for their children
at Christmas, that every other parent is also trying to get?
Brad
I remember years ago when our local J. C. Penny's hosted what has been since
become known as "The Great Cabbage Patch Doll Cage Grudge Match". Six
women and two men had to be taken to the hospital to treat minor to moderate
injuries. It was horrible! Penny's was charging upwards of $250.00 apiece
for the increasingly scarce doll, and parents were more than willing to both
pay, and fight for it. My father was watching the news and he just shook
his head and said, "Animals".
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Brad Filippone" |
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02 Jul 2006 03:58:24 PM |
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Andrealphus (NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD) wrote:
: In News e88dua$uog$6@Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca,, Brad Filippone at
: al019@chebucto.ns.ca, typed this:
: > Seamus (fomorianwolf@yahoo.com) wrote:
: >> James wrote:
: >>> Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and
: >>> humans. For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They
: >>> fornicate with the very young to the very old. They have no concept
: >>> of morality.
: >
: >> Humans ARE animals. You may try to deny and ignore that fact all you
: >> want, but humainy is basically a frontal lobe away from being a
: >> grunting, primal creature (and, if you've ever been in a locker room,
: >> or watched a congressional or presidential debate, we're still primal
: >> beasts, anyway).
: >
: > How about parents looking for that one special toy for their children
: > at Christmas, that every other parent is also trying to get?
: >
: > Brad
: I remember years ago when our local J. C. Penny's hosted what has been since
: become known as "The Great Cabbage Patch Doll Cage Grudge Match". Six
: women and two men had to be taken to the hospital to treat minor to moderate
: injuries. It was horrible! Penny's was charging upwards of $250.00 apiece
: for the increasingly scarce doll, and parents were more than willing to both
: pay, and fight for it. My father was watching the news and he just shook
: his head and said, "Animals".
I was thinking of the cabbage patch kids when I made the post. I guess
it's the best known example. There was the "Tickle-Me Elmo" a few years
after. Of course, there was a Christmas movie, "Jingle all the Way"
covering this theme.
Brad
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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01 Jul 2006 01:31:36 PM |
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James wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
Hello,
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
the very young to the very old. They have no concept of morality.
True, humans also fornicate. But humans were given morality, so there
are built-in rules to follow concerning such things.
There are many examples of "built-in rules" in the animal world. Many mate
for life, most are sexually active only a few times a year, and fornicating
with the "very young" does not happen.
It is easy to find exceptions for what you, today, call "moral" in both time
and place.
Sharing wives *is* a moral thing in some cultures and few today force women
to marry their dead husbands brother.
The Bible clearly shows that God does not approve of homosexuality.
But the Bible also shows that homosexuals CAN change if they so choose
to. (see below) Even if we assume for the moment that they have those
tendencies because of biological reasons (and this has not been 100%
proven), as long as they can change, God will hold them accountable.
Bull *****.
It is similar to serial murderer. There also have been suggestions
from the scientific communities that certain people are born with the
'murder gene'. That supposedly makes them susceptible to that kind of
conduct. But even assuming that to be true (again no 100% proof yet),
no court as of yet has permitted that argument to be valid for
excusing such a murderer, regardless of that person's inner feelings
on the matter. That person still has a choice not to do those things.
It may be hard, but the choice is still available.
Yes, homosexuals CAN make a choice, either to serve God the way God
wants, or to serve themselves. 1 Co 6:9-11,
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor
adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor
thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But
you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV)
Notice again verse 11, "And that is what some of you were. But you
were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of
the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
So it is possible for a homosexual to change.
Oh, you're a JW.
I've seen first hand the fear your elders cause in people who don't follow
their rules.
You are much closer to the bible than most. You just can't kill them any
more.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
03 Jul 2006 02:11:15 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:30:45 -0400, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
mammal species?
Hello,
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
Keep in mind that humans are animals.
For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
the very young to the very old.
Some do some don't.
They have no concept of morality.
Irrelevant even if true.
True, humans also fornicate. But humans were given morality, so there
are built-in rules to follow concerning such things. Even most
cultures find that sex with children, or with another person's husband
or wife, is wrong. Now if we were just a product of evolution and were
on equal par with the animals (like your suggestion above with
homosexuality), then doing such things should make no difference to
us.
Nonsense. The existence of a god is not the only reason for moral
beliefs.
But it does. So in this regard, one cannot compare the actions of
animals to those of humans.
People have morals whether they believe in a god or not, and, once
again, humans are animals.
The Bible clearly shows that God does not approve of homosexuality.
Any evidence that their is a god?
But the Bible also shows that homosexuals CAN change if they so choose
to. (see below) Even if we assume for the moment that they have those
tendencies because of biological reasons (and this has not been 100%
proven),
Nothing is 100% proven.
as long as they can change, God will hold them accountable.
That is your belief. You have no evidence for it. Why not just keep
your repulsive bigotry to yourself?
It is similar to serial murderer.
Your vicious attempt to compare homosexuality with murder is noted.
You really are a nasty little rodent.
There also have been suggestions
from the scientific communities that certain people are born with the
'murder gene'. That supposedly makes them susceptible to that kind of
conduct. But even assuming that to be true (again no 100% proof yet),
no court as of yet has permitted that argument to be valid for
excusing such a murderer, regardless of that person's inner feelings
on the matter. That person still has a choice not to do those things.
It may be hard, but the choice is still available.
Yes, homosexuals CAN make a choice, either to serve God the way God
wants, or to serve themselves. 1 Co 6:9-11,
Nobody is obliged to follow your religious beliefs. Some of us are
sane enough not to.
snip of remaining hate-filled rant.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Strife767" |
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02 Jul 2006 11:35:15 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:30:45 -0400, James <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does
it
exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
mammal species?
Hello,
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
the very young to the very old.
Still waiting to hear the difference, lol.
They have no concept of morality.
But in a practical sense, they are much more moral than people in some
cases. They don't do many of the despicable things that we waste our human
intelligence on, and I think they deserve credit for that at least.
True, humans also fornicate. But humans were given morality,
You mean they invented the concept.
so there
are built-in rules to follow concerning such things.
Which are unique in every society.
Even most
cultures find that sex with children, or with another person's husband
or wife, is wrong.
But not all.
Now if we were just a product of evolution and were
on equal par with the animals (like your suggestion above with
homosexuality),
Nope. The only statement made was to defend the tired "homosexuality is
unnatural" argument from _your_ side. Rarely does someone say
"homosexuality is all over the place in nature" as an argument for
"homosexuality is okay."
then doing such things should make no difference to
us. But it does.
Only in those who have been indoctrinated into hating it. The average
person who hasn't had prejudice or most religions drilled into his/her
head from childhood will, when exposed to the idea that "some boys like
boys and some girls like girls," become either indifferent or fascinated
(if for no other reason, then from learning something new). The
child/adult who is never taught to despise what's unusual or different
than him/her will _never_ be repulsed at something like this.
So in this regard, one cannot compare the actions of
animals to those of humans.
The Bible clearly shows that God does not approve of homosexuality.
Your beliefs do not apply universally. No one is obligated to do what any
religious doctrine says, for no other reason than the fact that it is a
religious doctrine.
But the Bible also shows that homosexuals CAN change if they so choose
to. (see below) Even if we assume for the moment that they have those
tendencies because of biological reasons (and this has not been 100%
proven), as long as they can change, God will hold them accountable.
This would be another example of the Bible "getting it wrong." It is
largely known that sexual orientation is immutable once sexual development
is complete.
Regardless, there is no _reason_ to change outside of religious
intolerance. And that doesn't apply universally.
http://www.psych.org/edu/other_res/lib_archives/archives/199216.pdf
It is similar to serial murderer. There also have been suggestions
from the scientific communities that certain people are born with the
'murder gene'. That supposedly makes them susceptible to that kind of
conduct. But even assuming that to be true (again no 100% proof yet),
no court as of yet has permitted that argument to be valid for
excusing such a murderer, regardless of that person's inner feelings
on the matter. That person still has a choice not to do those things.
It may be hard, but the choice is still available.
One big difference. There is no reason to suppress homosexuality, as it is
not inherently harmful the way murdering is.
Yes, homosexuals CAN make a choice, either to serve God the way God
wants, or to serve themselves. 1 Co 6:9-11,
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor
adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor
thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But
you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV)
Notice again verse 11, "And that is what some of you were. But you
were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of
the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
So it is possible for a homosexual to change.
This would be attempt #2,938,473 at putting a millenia-old book in a
position of authority over modern science. It didn't work the last
2,938,472 times, what makes you think anyone with a working brain is going
to deny all the knowledge of psychology we have in favor of an
embarassingly-obsolete _holy_ book?
Sincerely, James
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Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
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P.S. My girlfriend's family are Jehovah's Witnesses, so I know first-hand
just how fucked up _you_ guys are. Get out of your cult if you ever want
to be taken seriously.
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
01 Jul 2006 09:30:37 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:30:45 -0400, in alt.politics.homosexuality
James <bireda@allvantage.com>
<397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com> wrote:
| >"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL12@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
| >Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals
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| >In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
| >0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
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| >> Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
| >> threat to society.
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| >> If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
| >> female?
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| >If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
| >exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
| >mammal species?
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| Hello,
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| Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
| For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
| the very young to the very old. They have no concept of morality.
Oh here we go with the buybull thumping.
Change the word morality to social construct and see how wrong you
are.
| True, humans also fornicate. But humans were given morality, so there
| are built-in rules to follow concerning such things. Even most
| cultures find that sex with children, or with another person's husband
| or wife, is wrong.
Gee I wonder why?
Guess what? Even cultures/tribes that have never heard of your god
find these actions disruptive to their society.
[snip]
| The Bible clearly shows that God does not approve of homosexuality.
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The bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean
that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they
need more supervision.
--Lynn Lavner.
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| But the Bible also shows that homosexuals CAN change if they so choose
| to. (see below)
Why change when this is the way that *I* was created. My god and
myself are comfortable with the situtation. Who are you to tell my god
that they are wrong?
[snip]
| It is similar to serial murderer.
Oh here we go, associating a non-harmful sexual orientation with a
harmful action.
| There also have been suggestions
| from the scientific communities that certain people are born with the
| 'murder gene'. That supposedly makes them susceptible to that kind of
| conduct.
Guess what? murdering people is harmful to society, homosexuality
isn't.
| But even assuming that to be true (again no 100% proof yet),
| no court as of yet has permitted that argument to be valid for
| excusing such a murderer, regardless of that person's inner feelings
| on the matter. That person still has a choice not to do those things.
| It may be hard, but the choice is still available.
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| Yes, homosexuals CAN make a choice, either to serve God the way God
| wants, or to serve themselves. 1 Co 6:9-11,
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| "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
| Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor
| adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor
Strange that your buybull should have the word homosexual in it.
The word wasn't in existance until the late 1900's. Could it be that
your buybull has been mistranslated?
[snip]
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| So it is possible for a homosexual to change.
No thanks, my god is quite happy with the way he made me and doesn't
want me to change just to satisfy your loathing and hatred.
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01 Jul 2006 11:38:26 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, James in episode
<397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com>...
The Bible
Is mythology.
Next!
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for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
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02 Jul 2006 07:20:39 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo (alt-atheism@org.webmaster) wrote:
: Previously, on alt.atheism, James in episode
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: > The Bible
: Is mythology.
Actually, it's a mix of myth and history.
Brad
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02 Jul 2006 07:23:24 AM |
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In News e88dmn$uog$5@Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca,, Brad Filippone at
al019@chebucto.ns.ca, typed this:
Mark K. Bilbo (alt-atheism@org.webmaster) wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, James in episode
<397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com>...
The Bible
Is mythology.
Actually, it's a mix of myth and history.
Much of the "history" is also myth. At any rate, one can only fairly call
it a work fiction.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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02 Jul 2006 11:36:31 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 08:20:39 -0400, Brad Filippone <al019@chebucto.ns.ca>
wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo (alt-atheism@org.webmaster) wrote:
: Previously, on alt.atheism, James in episode
: <397da2la2elcqesmilcet29asnhh4t642f@4ax.com>...
: > The Bible
: Is mythology.
Actually, it's a mix of myth and history.
Brad
That's like saying a lethal injection is a mix of killing and medicine.
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01 Jul 2006 03:41:33 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and James <bireda@allvantage.com>
posting the following on Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:30:45 -0400 iin
alt.atheism?
Hello,
Greetings.
Keep in mind that there is an ENORMOUS gap between animals and humans.
For example, animals fornicate all over the place. They fornicate with
the very young to the very old. They have no concept of morality.
Not true, actually. Many animals mate for life, and humans are
actually fairly rare in our ability to mate at any time. Most mammals
have defined seasons where females become fertile. Males will only
mate with a female that smells right, or displays obvious signs of
being receptive to mating. In a similar vein, most male animals have
displays that indicate that they are able and ready to mate.
True, humans also fornicate. But humans were given morality, so there
are built-in rules to follow concerning such things. Even most
cultures find that sex with children, or with another person's husband
or wife, is wrong. Now if we were just a product of evolution and were
on equal par with the animals (like your suggestion above with
homosexuality), then doing such things should make no difference to
us. But it does. So in this regard, one cannot compare the actions of
animals to those of humans.
That assumes a great deal. Most of it wrong. Define child, first of
all. Pre-industrial societies tended to marry their children off at
12 or 13 and declare them adults. As for other people's spouses, the
right of "First Night" was a cherished tradition for centuries.
There is no universal set of human morals. Turaeg tribemen see
nothing wrong with sexual freedom among married folks, but will kill
anyone who sees an unmarried young woman without her veil.
The Bible clearly shows that God does not approve of homosexuality.
The Bible also shows that God disaproves of shellfish.
But the Bible also shows that homosexuals CAN change if they so choose
to. (see below) Even if we assume for the moment that they have those
tendencies because of biological reasons (and this has not been 100%
proven), as long as they can change, God will hold them accountable.
Who cares what your myth finds acceptable?
It is similar to serial murderer. There also have been suggestions
from the scientific communities that certain people are born with the
'murder gene'. That supposedly makes them susceptible to that kind of
conduct. But even assuming that to be true (again no 100% proof yet),
no court as of yet has permitted that argument to be valid for
excusing such a murderer, regardless of that person's inner feelings
on the matter. That person still has a choice not to do those things.
It may be hard, but the choice is still available.
The difference of course is a murderer kills people without their
consent, causing pain and grief. Homosexuals engage in consensual
relationships that cause no harm.
Yes, homosexuals CAN make a choice, either to serve God the way God
wants, or to serve themselves. 1 Co 6:9-11,
According to the Bible, your faith can move mountains. Therefore, I
want you to move Mt. Umunum, CA, one mile south.
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor
adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor
thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will
inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But
you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV)
So?
Notice again verse 11, "And that is what some of you were. But you
were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of
the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
And this applies to the 21st Century how?
So it is possible for a homosexual to change.
Not according to science and all the evidence.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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01 Jul 2006 05:33:43 PM |
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Though there is very little similiarity betwen gays and terrorists, I would
like to point out that there are many between radical reactionary christians
and terrorist, for indeed some are in fact terrorists.
Maud Gonne
One of the Lesbian Immortals
We Never Die
"They may batter us to pieces but they will never extinguish our hope."
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01 Jul 2006 08:53:28 PM |
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Maud Gonne wrote:
Though there is very little similiarity betwen gays and terrorists, I
would like to point out that there are many between radical reactionary
christians and terrorist, for indeed some ar
Our good American far right religionsist have been rather nasty
in the last 30 years.
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The Failure of Christianity in America
W. C . Barwell 3-8-05
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Since Nixon, this nation has rapidly moved quite far to the
right, taken there mainly by christian right wingers who have
fully supported the GOP as it has moved specifically to
gain support of christian right wingers. This started when
Nixon played the racist Southern Strategy card building on
civil rights era resentments by far right Southerners.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/23/172743.shtml
Conservative Southerners were very religious.
The turn towards Christian conservatives accelerated
under Reagan, who skillfully played the religious card and the
religious right joined the GOP-Reagan revolution that still
is a major influence. That has given the GOP control of Congress
for years, especially thanks to Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott
who gained control of the Congress, House and Senate in 1995
with full support of the politicized religious right.
So we now have had a essentially a christian-GOP government
for 30 years. We had large right wing Christian movements
who were formed expressedly for political reasons to move
America right and to empower America conservative religionists,
and they have been largely successful.
RICHARD M. NIXON - GERALD FORD.
Christian denominations largely supported incompetent
and corrupt Vietnamese politicians. And a senseless war
in Vietnam that accomplished nothing, run by incompetents.
Nixon instigated awful and murderous policies as the CIA
run program Phoenix program of assassinations and murder.
Supported the secret bombings in Cambodia that killed
an estimated 600,000 innocent Cambodians.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=cambodia
Winked at the invasion of East Timur and parts of New
Guinea by our allies, the Indonesians.
The Indonesians killed 1/3 of the Timurese over several
decades, mass murder, genocide. 168,000 dead.
http://www.yale.edu/gsp/east_timor/unverdict.html
Winked at the Greek far right Junta that overthrew the
Greek government.
Supported the murderous far right Brazilian generals who
overthrew that democratically elected government in Brazil.
Supported the mass murdering Argentinian government and
their terroristic "Dirty War" of torture, mass murder
and disappearances.
Supported the murderous Pinochet of Chile, whom the US
helped overthrow Chile's democratically elected government.
No complaints about Pinochet's tortures and killings are
to be heard from Nixon, Reagan, or later Bush or the GOP
leaders of Senate and House.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/chile/index.html
Not many Christian denominations respected life here.
Or freedom. But supported Nixon heartily despite the
horrors we committed in Vietnam and Cambodia and Chile
and winked at support for others mentioned above.
No major religious denominations nor their leaders
spoke out and drew a line at any of this. Despite Nixon
and GOP support for such things, he easily won re-election.
RONALD REAGAN 1981 - 1989
Ronald Reagan came to power largely because of the
religious right's politicization and support.
Throughout his administration Ronald Reagan supported
Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge as the official government
of note in Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge delegation
as the official UN delegation of Cambodia to the UN.
Aid is funneled to the Khmer Rouge including $81 million
dollars, and food and uniforms funneled through aid
organizations. Reagan winked as China rearmed Pol Pot,
and leaned on nations not to send aid to Cambodia despite
the devastation of nearly 1/3 of Cambodia's population
killed by Pol Pot's genocidal regime.
Early in his administration Reagan lead the GOP in
support for military aid to the genocidal Rios Montt
of Guatemala, who practiced wholesale mass torture,
mass rape mass murder and genocide on the Mayan Indians
of Guatemala.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/daily/march99/guatemala11.htm
Reagan and the GOP supported the mass murdering ex-Somoza
Guards of Nicaragua.
Reagan and the GOP supported Saddam Hussein of Iraq.
Reagan and the GOP supported the murderous Robert
D'Aubisson of El Salvador, a known far right death
squad leader.
The El Salvadoran government was involved in numerous
murders, and massacres, such as the killing of 400
villagers at a small village called El Mezote, most
of them young women and children.
http://www.usip.org/library/tc/doc/reports/el_salvador/tc_es_03151993_chron1.html
Reagan and the GOP supported Noriega of Panama.
Reagan and the GOP supported a number of murdering
far right extremist guerrilla movements in Africa including
the genocidal RENAMO in Mozambique.
The Christian and religious right heavily supported Reagan
and the GOP despite numerous examples of such evils as
listed above. The leaders of the religious right never cared
nor complained, neither did the religious leaders of the
main stream christian denominations make any effort
to stand up and denounce these outrageous policies.
The members of major denominations made no effort to
complain and demand their religious leaders react to
support for genocidal mass murderers.
There was and is no respect for life in organized American
christianity as these wholesale and repeat failures of
America christianity collectively over 20 years shows.
Many churches and denominations whole-heartedly support
Reagan and the GOP despite these horrors, and many
actively worked for Reagan's re-election and support of GOP
candidates, passing out tens of millions of voters' guides
slanted to support of far right GOP candiates and policies.
GEORGE W. BUSH
Bush continued support for the evil dictators above,
including Pinochet, Pol Pot and others. However,
Saddam screwed us and invaded Kuwait, mainly because
Bush screwed up and did not warn him to not do so
as Hussein repeatedly threatened to invade Kuwait
for nearly two months and coolly noted Bush's lack
of much response.
Bush did not act in case of genocide by Yugoslavia's
Milosevic, and Bush and the GOP's loud and obnoxious
foot-dragging here allowed Milosevic to kill
hundreds of thousands with near impunity.
The leaders of the GOP, House and Senate, and religious
leaders of the right and mainstream denominations never
cared about any of this. never made an issue out of it.
In the Desert Storm war, Bush allowed the US air
force to bomb Iraq's water and sewer systems and
dams. A war crime as per Geneva conventions and
other conventions the US signed.
The US placed sanctions on Iraq that made it impossible
to keep their water supplies safe resulting in numerous
deaths that eventually would total over 500,000 dead
Iraqi civilians, mostly children.
Our government coldly calculated that these sanctions would
indeed would cause mass epidemics and mass death, and did
it anyway.
Thomas Nagy, a California college professor used the FOIA
statutes to obtain these documents that were published
in September 2001 in the Progressive Magazine.
http://www.progressive.org/0801issue/nagy0901.html
No Christian leaders of either far right or mainstream
denominations cared, nor brought Bush and the GOP leadership
of House and Senate to task for this genocide of innocents.
The voters' guides pushed in many churches still were demanding
parishioners vote GOP despite these horrors and mass murders.
No leaders of large, powerful and influential denominations
ever stood up and denounced these mass murders. Christians
underneath did not push dilatory and unresponsive denominational
leaders to speak out, act and lead against these mass murders
and war crimes. Nor the support early in Bush's career for
Saddam and Pop Pot and other genocidal monsters.
Clinton:
Under Clinton this Iraq policy continued. Again, Christians
did not care. All many Christians cared about was Clinton's
don't-ask-don't-tell gays in military policy and Clinton's
sex life and Whitewater. $47 million spent investigating
Whitewater while the Christian right roared with naked hate.
Money spent investigation mass murder in Iraq caused by
our purposeful by our sanctions? $0.
Roars of disprovable from Christian America over these mass
murders? None.
No large denominations ever made these war crimes and mass murders
an issue nor took the GOP or president to task over these horrors.
What has 30 years of right winged GOP government and right
winger christianity got us? Mass murder, genocide,
Nothing but callousness, disregard for human life,
support for dictators, a near total moral failure of
religion, Christianity, GOP and the American right.
Not once did the large mass of religious christian
Americans, either leadership or rank and file ever
find any of these evils unacceptable or punish any
who supported any of this. Not the christian right
nor leaders of major US religious denominations.
Most GOP House and Senate members were people who
did these things claimed to be christians. Not one
cares, not many christian denominations care that
they did not care or act. Many of those who presided
over these massive moral failures still hold office
in the US Congress and Senate, leaders and ran and file.
Almost all claim to be christians.
They retain full support of far right religious
leaders, pundits and rank and file christian
followers.
30 years of failure. 30 years of support for
far right genocidal bastards, mass murderers,
and evil by the Leaders of Religious right
and large denominations.
Christians posture as moral, American christians have
a very bad track records when it comes to morality, they
will happily support any genocidal monster as long as he's
a right winger, and right winger politicians support
that monster no matter how murderous or genocidal he
and his evil regime is.
The religious right and right winged denominations
spearheaded political support for the GOP, and conservative
politicians who created these evil policies. Main stream
denominations and the thousands of conservative non-denominational
churches representing tens of milliions of Christians made
no effort over 35 years to oppose the GOP or their far right
supporters, these outrageous policies were never made an issue
by any large denomination that could have made a difference.
Christianity thus can only be called a moral failure,
35 years of failure now with no sign that there is any
change on the horizon.
(End)
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Join the anti-willful-religious-stupidity brigade today.
You will be glad you did.
Our motto: Slap! "Wake up stupid!"
Cheerful Charlie
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09 Jun 2006 09:47:21 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
mammal species?
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
There is good and bad in all things...
In the realm of lesbians...the involvment of some radicals, including
some lesbians, in 'women's centers' to promote the polarization of the
sexes, not to mention abortion shows that they may indeed be a
cult...no different than the pedofile priests in the Church...
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
09 Jun 2006 04:30:08 PM |
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In News 1149864441.618631.207390@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,,
caesarjbsquitti at orders@squittis.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
There is good and bad in all things...
Good and bad is an entirely different issue. Can't you just answer the
question as posed? An aim of nature is for the Tiger to eat you if you
intrude in it's territory and it's hungry enough. Good for the Tiger, bad
for you. It is, however, entirely natural for the Tiger to do so.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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08 Jun 2006 05:25:31 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost all
mammal species?
I have seen amimals eating human *****. Why don't you and american
senate eat h dog, donkey or human *****?
Because it also exist in nature.
I have also seen animals having sex with their own relatives like
father, mother, brother, sister. You mentally sick people don't know
what you are talking and doing. You are losing consciousness.
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08 Jun 2006 05:33:28 AM |
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In News 1149762331.674406.123930@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
I have seen amimals eating human *****. Why don't you and american
senate eat h dog, donkey or human *****?
We leave that up to people like you. Are you saying that since all species
of animals have heterosexual sex, and since you also have heterosexual sex,
that you will also start eating *****? Your arguments are laughable at best.
The issue here, as you outlined them, is the aims of nature. No two
species are alike, but we do share many traits.
Because it also exist in nature.
I have also seen animals having sex with their own relatives like
father, mother, brother, sister. You mentally sick people don't know
what you are talking and doing. You are losing consciousness.
Well, I seem to be far more conscious than you are at the moment. Conscious
enough to actually address the topic instead of jumping around like some mad
person. I also noticed that you dodged answering the question: "If
homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist?"
It's very hard for you to prove that something that is so prevalent in
nature, was not an aim of nature. Whether or not it is a "good or bad"
thing is another argument entirely.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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08 Jun 2006 06:57:34 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149762331.674406.123930@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
I have seen amimals eating human *****. Why don't you and american
senate eat h dog, donkey or human *****?
We leave that up to people like you. Are you saying that since all species
of animals have heterosexual sex, and since you also have heterosexual sex,
that you will also start eating *****? Your arguments are laughable at best.
The issue here, as you outlined them, is the aims of nature. No two
species are alike, but we do share many traits.
Eating ***** by animals is prevelant in nature. You don't have answer
why you should not eat it if your ideology is based on observation of
nature. You need to make up your mind. Do you want to follow nature or
just want to follow what your mind tells you. There is big difference
between following nature and following consciousness.
Because it also exist in nature.
I have also seen animals having sex with their own relatives like
father, mother, brother, sister. You mentally sick people don't know
what you are talking and doing. You are losing consciousness.
Well, I seem to be far more conscious than you are at the moment. Conscious
enough to actually address the topic instead of jumping around like some mad
person. I also noticed that you dodged answering the question: "If
homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does it
exist?"
..I have answered that. There are lot of things exist in our nature, not
necessarily those things exist because human being should follow it.
You apply logic that homosexuality exist in nature, hence nothing wrong
if human being do the same. On same logic things i stated above also
exist in nature and you may argue on same line what is wrong if human
being eat ***** and have sex with relatives. Dinosauras used to eat
their own babies. Some species still eat each other. It is prevelent in
nature. Do you think eating human babies and humans by human being is
aim of nature?
It's very hard for you to prove that something that is so prevalent in
nature, was not an aim of nature. Whether or not it is a "good or bad"
thing is another argument entirely.
See above.
Western countries are turning in something like resident evil movie.
You are insane people on streets. Better to ignore you.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
08 Jun 2006 04:40:03 PM |
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In News 1149767854.813157.245960@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149762331.674406.123930@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,, neo
at 0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo
at 0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why
does it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and
almost all mammal species?
I have seen amimals eating human *****. Why don't you and american
senate eat h dog, donkey or human *****?
We leave that up to people like you. Are you saying that since all
species of animals have heterosexual sex, and since you also have
heterosexual sex, that you will also start eating *****? Your
arguments are laughable at best. The issue here, as you outlined
them, is the aims of nature. No two species are alike, but we do
share many traits.
Eating ***** by animals is prevelant in nature.
Actually, no. Only a few species of animal eat *****.
You don't have answer
why you should not eat it if your ideology is based on observation of
nature. You need to make up your mind. Do you want to follow nature or
just want to follow what your mind tells you. There is big difference
between following nature and following consciousness.
LOL! The two are not always mutually exclusive, are they?
Because it also exist in nature.
I have also seen animals having sex with their own relatives like
father, mother, brother, sister. You mentally sick people don't know
what you are talking and doing. You are losing consciousness.
Well, I seem to be far more conscious than you are at the moment.
Conscious enough to actually address the topic instead of jumping
around like some mad person. I also noticed that you dodged
answering the question: "If homosexuality had not been one of the
aims of nature, then why does it exist?"
.I have answered that.
Nope, you dodged it, and continue to dodge it.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Similarity in terrorists and homosexuals |
08 Jun 2006 08:06:29 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, neo in episode
<1149762331.674406.123930@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>...
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1149757613.356314.235210@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,, neo at
0universe0@gmail.com, typed this:
Terrorists pose physical threat to society. Homosexuals pose moral
threat to society.
If homosexuality had been aim of nature, why there are male and
female?
If homosexuality had not been one of the aims of nature, then why does
it exist? Why does it exist in so many different species, and almost
all mammal species?
I have seen amimals eating human *****. Why don't you and american senate
eat h dog, donkey or human *****?
Because it also exist in nature.
I have also seen animals having sex with their own relatives like father,
mother, brother, sister. You mentally sick people don't know what you are
talking and doing. You are losing consciousness.
And you're insane.
Go get help already.
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Mark K. Bilbo
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