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"Bill M" |
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03 Apr 2007 01:59:00 PM |
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SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
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| User: "Jim07D7" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
03 Apr 2007 04:27:36 PM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> said:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
There is an "argument from disbelief" as follows, that dispenses with
certain gods, including notably the God of many believers. This is not
to be confused with much weaker arguments from disbelief.
quote: [I have added two statements to make it more complete, and one
trivial typo correction.]
Argument from disbelief:
Givens:
God is all powerful
God is all knowing
God is all loving
Disbelief exists
Hell exists
[Add: Disbelievers who die as such go to Hell.]
God, being all loving, wants us to believe in him so that we won't end
up in hell.
God, being all knowing, knows exactly what amount of evidence every
person needs to believe.
God, being all powerful, has the ability to produce the said evidence.
I'm a living testament to the existence of disbelief, so god is
either:
A)Not all loving
B)Not all powerful
C)Not all knowing
Or hell doesn't exist.
[Add: Or disbelief carries no penalty.]
unquote
http://www.skepticatheist.com/articles/whyatheism.php
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
05 Apr 2007 11:35:14 PM |
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On Apr 3, 5:27 pm, Jim07D7 <Jim0...@nospam.net> wrote:
"Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> said:
There is an "argument from disbelief" as follows, that dispenses with
certain gods, including notably the God of many believers. This is not
to be confused with much weaker arguments from disbelief.
This argument from disbelief is flawed and disproves nothing. Let me
show you:
quote: [I have added two statements to make it more complete, and one
trivial typo correction.]
Argument from disbelief:
Givens:
God is all powerful
God is all knowing
Both completely true.
God is all loving
This is the statement that's false, **given what you assume is meant
by "all loving" in *human* terms**.
You ascribe to God what it means in *human* terms to be all loving,
and God is very different from us. We see time and again in the Bible
how God is very different from humans in many ways. The human version
of "all loving" no doubt means love me, let me pass into heaven no
matter what I do, on my own terms, so that I can still do whatever I
want, sin all I want, and not be punished (burn in hell -- the second
death) for it.
God is a Holy God. He loves us, but when we sin there *must* be
punishment for that sin. If he were to not enact punishment for sin,
he'd no longer be a Holy God. Then Heaven would be no different than
here on earth as those who sin would (yet again) infect heaven just
like they've cointinue to infect earth (until they turn away from
their sinful ways and call on Jesus Christ to save them from the
punishment of their sins and to help them be righteous with the help
of the Holy Spirit, of course). So the option of there not being
punishment for sin is **not an option**! So because of this, God
fails the test of being "all loving" in human terms. And that "given"
in your argument is false, nullifying the entire argument. "Oh that's
so cruel", "he's not all loving", and so on. That's fine by those who
believe: we prefer a Holy God, not a God who will allow just as much
evil to enter heaven as is currently here on Earth.
Disbelief exists
Hell exists
[Add: Disbelievers who die as such go to Hell.]
God, being all loving, wants us to believe in him so that we won't end
up in hell.
Another false statement. God wants us to admit we are sinners and
repent. But even then someone will have to take the punishment for our
sins because he is a Holy God. Jesus Christ bore this punishment. We
get this gift only if we admit we are sinners, repent, believe Jesus
Christ is the son of God and rose from the dead, and then call on the
Lord Jesus Christ to save us from the punishment of our sins. At that
point we become children of God, our sins are forgiven, and we are
saved from punishment from our sins.
It's not just a "believe in me and you won't go to hell". Many people
believe in Him, but reject Him, and will still end up in hell (i.e.,
rejecting the gift of Jesus Christ and choosing to take the punishment
themselves instead).
God, being all knowing, knows exactly what amount of evidence every
person needs to believe.
God, being all powerful, has the ability to produce the said evidence.
I'm a living testament to the existence of disbelief, so god is
either:
A)Not all loving
B)Not all powerful
C)Not all knowing
Or hell doesn't exist.
[Add: Or disbelief carries no penalty.]
unquote
http://www.skepticatheist.com/articles/whyatheism.php
Since (A) is flawed, when that argument falls apart and you are
looking for a reason why disbelief exists, then the reason is still
(A) God is not all loving **in the no-doubt human way you consider
someone to be all loving**.
So that argument for God not existing is completely flawed.
So we need to admit we are sinners, repent from that sin (with the
idea that we don't want to keep repeating those sins), believe that
Jesus Christ bore the punishment for our sins on the cross and rose
from the dead, and call on Jesus Christ to save us.
Many had the proof of Jesus' miracles right in their face, and
disbelieved and/or rejected God anyway.
And I'm sure God could continue to blast insane evidence in everyone's
faces to overwhelm their senses into forced belief. But even that
wouldn't be enough. He doesn't want robots. He doesn't want mindless
believers who were practically forced into belief. He wants people to
come to belief of their own free will with more than enough evidence
all around them already. Adam and Eve had all the evidence they
needed: walking with God daily, and *STILL* they wanted to be separate
from God, thereby rejecting him; sinning against our Holy God.
But every day more people come to know Jesus!
Praise the Lord!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
06 Apr 2007 10:36:44 AM |
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<gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175834114.259533.237680@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 5:27 pm, Jim07D7 <Jim0...@nospam.net> wrote:
"Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> said:
There is an "argument from disbelief" as follows, that dispenses with
certain gods, including notably the God of many believers. This is not
to be confused with much weaker arguments from disbelief.
This argument from disbelief is flawed and disproves nothing. Let me
show you:
Here's a thought - Prove your god exists. And please back it up with
objective, verifiable evidence. Look up those words in a dictionary if you
don't know what they mean.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
06 Apr 2007 11:10:58 AM |
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On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:36:44 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<gabriel_baptist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175834114.259533.237680@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 5:27 pm, Jim07D7 <Jim0...@nospam.net> wrote:
"Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> said:
There is an "argument from disbelief" as follows, that dispenses with
certain gods, including notably the God of many believers. This is not
to be confused with much weaker arguments from disbelief.
This argument from disbelief is flawed and disproves nothing. Let me
show you:
Here's a thought - Prove your god exists.
He can't.
And please back it up with
objective, verifiable evidence. Look up those words in a dictionary if you
don't know what they mean.
He doesn't.
He imagines that citing the bible proves anything in the real world.
He imagines saying "the evidence is all around you" supports his case.
He imagines that making slanderous accusations about those outside his
religion supports his case.
And when he is treated as the stupid, nasty idiot he shows himself to
be, he turns into a whining hypocrite with even more falsehoods which
he then amateur psychologises to come up with even more vicious
slanders.
He's one of those religious lunatics who can't think in terms of the
real world.
In short: he's a Christian.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
03 Apr 2007 08:42:47 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:27:36 GMT, Jim07D7 <Jim07D7@nospam.net> wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> said:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
There is an "argument from disbelief" as follows, that dispenses with
certain gods, including notably the God of many believers. This is not
to be confused with much weaker arguments from disbelief.
quote: [I have added two statements to make it more complete, and one
trivial typo correction.]
Argument from disbelief:
Givens:
God is all powerful
God is all knowing
God is all loving
Disbelief exists
Hell exists
[Add: Disbelievers who die as such go to Hell.]
God, being all loving, wants us to believe in him so that we won't end
up in hell.
God, being all knowing, knows exactly what amount of evidence every
person needs to believe.
God, being all powerful, has the ability to produce the said evidence.
I'm a living testament to the existence of disbelief, so god is
either:
A)Not all loving
B)Not all powerful
C)Not all knowing
Or hell doesn't exist.
[Add: Or disbelief carries no penalty.]
unquote
http://www.skepticatheist.com/articles/whyatheism.php
Or ...
There is no god.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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03 Apr 2007 11:44:59 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> bloodied us up
with this:
Or ...
There is no god.
I agree.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF GOD |
10 Apr 2007 03:20:19 AM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:q6yQh.29385$nV1.4452@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual existence of millions of atheists.
There are millions of deaf and blind people also, and atheists are deaf
and blind to the truth. There is no "god" of your definition, and we are all
agreed on that.
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we KNOW love and have
SEEN love in Him who died in our stead on the cross of Calvary. There is no
more eloquent communication of God than that, and which is far more
convincing than mere words, though words seem to be what you are looking
for.
Your "god" is an invisible old man in the sky, who doesn't exist, ...a
mere straw man atheists love to trash uselessly and with wild abandon.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Smiler" |
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10 Apr 2007 08:27:27 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:461b3e60$0$16360$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:q6yQh.29385$nV1.4452@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual existence of millions of atheists.
There are millions of deaf and blind people also, and atheists are deaf
and blind to the truth.
Our truth is verifiable. Your "truth" isn't.
There is no "god"
You should have left it there. Makes sense now.
(newsgroups added by the crossposting troll trimmed)
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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13 Apr 2007 10:49:07 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:20:19 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PF@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:q6yQh.29385$nV1.4452@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual existence of millions of atheists.
There are millions of deaf and blind people also, and atheists are deaf
and blind to the truth. There is no "god" of your definition, and we are all
agreed on that.
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we KNOW love and have
SEEN love in Him who died in our stead on the cross of Calvary. There is no
more eloquent communication of God than that, and which is far more
convincing than mere words, though words seem to be what you are looking
for.
Your "god" is an invisible old man in the sky, who doesn't exist, ...a
mere straw man atheists love to trash uselessly and with wild abandon.
--
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
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| User: "Cdumo" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
04 Apr 2007 03:00:10 AM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:q6yQh.29385$nV1.4452@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual existence of millions of atheists.
Many are called few are choosen
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
He will.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
He did, it's called the Scriptures, atheists cause themselves to go to
hell, don't blame God, go ahead study, you can't say you didn't know.
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| User: "White Wille" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
07 Apr 2007 09:10:14 PM |
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Bill M wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
You should be hung.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
09 Apr 2007 03:01:41 PM |
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"White Wille" <wpro@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lMSdndcJacCX0oXbnZ2dnUVZ_qzinZ2d@giganews.com...
Bill M wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of
its existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing
the atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
You should be hung.
You could lose your account for making comments like that.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
07 Apr 2007 11:25:55 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:10:14 -0700, White Wille <wpro@verizon.net>
wrote:
Bill M wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
You should be hung.
He is.
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
03 Apr 2007 03:28:18 PM |
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On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
03 Apr 2007 06:33:53 PM |
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1175632098.792754.327060@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of
its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god
demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
05 Apr 2007 04:54:07 PM |
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Bill M wrote:
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1175632098.792754.327060@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of
its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
Because "god" isn't bound by logic, justice, or reason.
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| User: "Uno-Hoo! Uno-Hoo@NOSPAMbigfootdotcom" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
06 Apr 2007 12:51:23 PM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1175810047.302758.71160@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bill M wrote:
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1175632098.792754.327060@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly
communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of
its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing
the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
Because "god" isn't bound by logic, justice, or reason.
Ah - so your god is illogical, totally lacking in justice and is also
unreasonable? !!
Uno-Hoo!
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 09:12:54 AM |
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On Apr 3, 4:33 pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1175632098.792754.327060@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the
actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of
its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god
demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
According to the Bible that will happen when he returns the second
time.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 10:59:18 AM |
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rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
According to the Bible that will happen when he returns the second
time.
In other words, atheism will never be eliminated.
Unfortunately, from what we know of history, the far more dangerous
converse of atheism--superstitious belief systems--will never be
eliminated either.
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 04:06:51 PM |
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On Apr 12, 8:59 am, (Scott Richter) wrote:
rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why wouldn't a
loving god demonstrate his existence and eliminate atheism?
According to the Bible that will happen when he returns the second
time.
In other words, atheism will never be eliminated.
Unfortunately, from what we know of history, the far more dangerous
converse of atheism--superstitious belief systems--will never be
eliminated either.
All people are going to become believers, otherwise, they would not
even be here. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess, etc.
Well, you are right about not being able to eliminate God. You are
not going to be able to do it.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
13 Apr 2007 09:55:54 AM |
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rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? Why
wouldn't a loving god demonstrate his existence and eliminate
atheism?
According to the Bible that will happen when he returns the second
time.
In other words, atheism will never be eliminated.
Unfortunately, from what we know of history, the far more dangerous
converse of atheism--superstitious belief systems--will never be
eliminated either.
All people are going to become believers, otherwise, they would not
even be here.
What the ***** are you babbling about now?
Every knee will bow and every tongue confess, etc.
"Etc."? Are you so bored with your own religious ***** you can't even
finish your sentence?
Well, you are right about not being able to eliminate God.
Eliminate God? You'd need a big fuckin' roll of toilet paper for that...
You are not going to be able to do it.
Not without a few prunes...
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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13 Apr 2007 10:35:03 AM |
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On Apr 13, 7:55=EF=BF=BDam, (Scott Richter) wrote:
rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
What does this Bible story have to do with the question? =A0Why
wouldn't a loving god demonstrate his existence and eliminate
atheism?
According to the Bible that will happen when he returns the second
time.
In other words, atheism will never be eliminated.
Unfortunately, from what we know of history, the far more dangerous
converse of atheism--superstitious belief systems--will never be
eliminated either.
All people are going to become believers, otherwise, they would not
even be here.
What the ***** are you babbling about now?
Every knee will bow and every tongue confess, etc.
"Etc."? Are you so bored with your own religious ***** you can't even
finish your sentence?
Well, you are right about not being able to eliminate God. =A0
Eliminate God? You'd need a big fuckin' roll of toilet paper for that...
You are not going to be able to do it.
Not without a few prunes...
Wait until I tell the Rutgers girls basketball team what you said.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
04 Apr 2007 05:28:28 PM |
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What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
would that be the same "loving, caring" christian god that sat on his FAT,
LAZY ***** and laughed his sick, sadistic ***** off while the events of
9/11/2001 was happening?
The christian god is a sick *****.
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 09:23:59 AM |
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On Apr 4, 3:28 pm, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kill...@killgod.com>
wrote:
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
would that be the same "loving, caring" christian god that sat on his FAT,
LAZY ***** and laughed his sick, sadistic ***** off while the events of
9/11/2001 was happening?
The christian god is a sick *****.
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
03 Apr 2007 09:54:39 PM |
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On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
On Apr 3, 11:59 am, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The simplest and most obvious evidence that there are no gods is the actual
existence of millions of atheists.
If a god existed that was mean and intolerant it would simply kill the
atheists and send them to his Hell.
If a loving and caring god existed it would it would directly communicate
his existence, wishes and commands to the atheists to convince them of its
existence. No loving and caring god would keep himself hidden causing the
atheists to spend eternity in his Hell.
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
Robert B. Winn
God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
03 Apr 2007 10:08:50 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:dn461398fgidqldqgut6hn2ja14spr1rcp@4ax.com...
On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
So are you claiming Jesus did NOT die?
Are you claiming it was not God's will that Jesus died .. Jesus seemed to
think it was?
If Jesus is God, why would he need to overcome death .. he is immortal ?
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 09:25:10 AM |
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On Apr 3, 8:08 pm, "Jeckyl" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <b...@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:dn461398fgidqldqgut6hn2ja14spr1rcp@4ax.com...
On 3 Apr 2007 13:28:18 -0700, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
So are you claiming Jesus did NOT die?
Are you claiming it was not God's will that Jesus died .. Jesus seemed to
think it was?
If Jesus is God, why would he need to overcome death .. he is immortal ?
Because he knew there was no distance contraction.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 10:59:19 AM |
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rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
So are you claiming Jesus did NOT die?
Are you claiming it was not God's will that Jesus died .. Jesus seemed to
think it was?
If Jesus is God, why would he need to overcome death .. he is immortal ?
Because he knew there was no distance contraction.
Ah, so now you're claiming Jesus was a student of relativity theory?
Interesting...
I guess you can assign your imaginary friend any sort of nonsensical
attributes you please.
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| User: "rbwinn" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
12 Apr 2007 04:08:30 PM |
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On Apr 12, 8:59 am, (Scott Richter) wrote:
rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
What about a God who sent his only Begotten Son to die for the sins of
atheists?
God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
So are you claiming Jesus did NOT die?
Are you claiming it was not God's will that Jesus died .. Jesus seemed to
think it was?
If Jesus is God, why would he need to overcome death .. he is immortal ?
Because he knew there was no distance contraction.
Ah, so now you're claiming Jesus was a student of relativity theory?
Interesting...
I guess you can assign your imaginary friend any sort of nonsensical
attributes you please.
Well, I was just making fun of you atheists. So are you saying that
Einstein was more intelligent than Jesus Christ?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: SIMPLE EVIDENCE OF NO GODS |
04 Apr 2007 05:29:56 PM |
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God did not send Jesus to die. God sent Jesus to overcome death which
he did. There is a fundamental difference here.
so, are you saying that the christian god is completely fucking useless and
couldn't have just waved his magic wand and overcome death without someone
dying?
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