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User: "Uncle Clover"
Date: 02 Dec 2006 03:08:58 PM
Object: Simpletons
I have an acquaintance who thought they should be able to put up Christmas
lights on their porch and be able to see them through GoogleEarth.
The acquaintance is fairly intelligent otherwise and has used GoogleEarth on
several occasions, but is a bit prone to magical-thinking, even more so than I
was at one point. But the person is over 50 years old - not yet geriatric by
any stretch of the imagination, so you'd think a relatively intelligent person
over 50 who has used GoogleEarth would know a little better.
It just strikes me as the same kind of thinking that leads to superstition. I
could see the gears in his head turning so clearly that I could almost make out
the imprint date on them, and I knew he was going through the same process that
most people go through when dreaming up or "intuiting" superstitious nonsense.
It's a fascinating thing. It's what I do sometimes right before I ask one of my
more monumentally flawed physics questions. Such "knowledge" just seems to come
from nowhere - and you apparently get what you paid for it, too, only in
abundance.
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L8r,
Uncle Clover
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 03:13:09 AM
"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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I have an acquaintance who thought they should be able to put up Christmas
lights on their porch and be able to see them through GoogleEarth.

The acquaintance is fairly intelligent otherwise and has used GoogleEarth
on
several occasions, but is a bit prone to magical-thinking, even more so
than I
was at one point. But the person is over 50 years old - not yet geriatric
by
any stretch of the imagination, so you'd think a relatively intelligent
person
over 50 who has used GoogleEarth would know a little better.

It just strikes me as the same kind of thinking that leads to
superstition. I
could see the gears in his head turning so clearly that I could almost
make out
the imprint date on them, and I knew he was going through the same process
that
most people go through when dreaming up or "intuiting" superstitious
nonsense.

It's a fascinating thing. It's what I do sometimes right before I ask one
of my
more monumentally flawed physics questions. Such "knowledge" just seems
to come
from nowhere - and you apparently get what you paid for it, too, only in
abundance.

Tell him the Satellite doesn't take pictures at night.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Simpletons 07 Dec 2006 11:38:46 AM
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 03:13:09 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
in alt.atheism


"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:3hq3n29f0m77fbf5q4p5v43pi7ri1q17ec@4ax.com...

I have an acquaintance who thought they should be able to put up Christmas
lights on their porch and be able to see them through GoogleEarth.

The acquaintance is fairly intelligent otherwise and has used GoogleEarth
on
several occasions, but is a bit prone to magical-thinking, even more so
than I
was at one point. But the person is over 50 years old - not yet geriatric
by
any stretch of the imagination, so you'd think a relatively intelligent
person
over 50 who has used GoogleEarth would know a little better.

It just strikes me as the same kind of thinking that leads to
superstition. I
could see the gears in his head turning so clearly that I could almost
make out
the imprint date on them, and I knew he was going through the same process
that
most people go through when dreaming up or "intuiting" superstitious
nonsense.

It's a fascinating thing. It's what I do sometimes right before I ask one
of my
more monumentally flawed physics questions. Such "knowledge" just seems
to come
from nowhere - and you apparently get what you paid for it, too, only in
abundance.


Tell him the Satellite doesn't take pictures at night.

They ran out of film.......
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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User: "bowman"

Title: Re: Simpletons 02 Dec 2006 10:02:21 PM
Uncle Clover wrote:

I have an acquaintance who thought they should be able to put up Christmas
lights on their porch and be able to see them through GoogleEarth.

That would be stretching a bit. I don't know how often the satellite imagery
is update, but an ambitious scheme involving a large field of wheat and a
combine is forming in my mind... Or maybe someone has already done it.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Simpletons 02 Dec 2006 11:05:09 PM
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:02:21 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Uncle Clover wrote:

I have an acquaintance who thought they should be able to put up Christmas
lights on their porch and be able to see them through GoogleEarth.

That would be stretching a bit. I don't know how often the satellite imagery
is update, but an ambitious scheme involving a large field of wheat and a
combine is forming in my mind... Or maybe someone has already done it.

It's called "crop circles". :)
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User: "bowman"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 11:24:19 AM
Al Klein wrote:

It's called "crop circles".

Have any of those shown up in the sat images? I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.
There is a nice effect in my area. The city images do appear to get updated
regularly, judging from the new construction, but out where I live is
pretty boring. Those images were acquired in the winter, so there is a
distinct boundary between the nice green city tiles and the grey, leafless
county.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 02:57:03 PM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:19 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

It's called "crop circles".

Have any of those shown up in the sat images?

They'd only show up for a few months, at best, and I don't think any
have been done since there have been publicly-accessible sat images.

I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.

Try a GPS receiver.
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User: "Uncle Clover"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 05:31:35 PM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:57:03 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:19 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

<snip>

I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.


Try a GPS receiver.

Do you mean these?
35° 0'16.26"N
102°22'35.92"W
Altitude: 12,000 feet
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L8r,
Uncle Clover
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"In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first
create the universe."
- Carl Sagan, "Cosmos"
************************************************************
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity...
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 06:15:26 PM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:31:35 -0500, Uncle Clover
<UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:57:03 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:19 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

<snip>

I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.


Try a GPS receiver.


Do you mean these?

35° 0'16.26"N
102°22'35.92"W

Altitude: 12,000 feet

The Texas panhandle? (My maps are in decimal, and I'm too lazy to
convert right now.)
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User: "Uncle Clover"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 06:31:35 PM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:15:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:31:35 -0500, Uncle Clover
<UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:57:03 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:19 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

<snip>

I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.


Try a GPS receiver.


Do you mean these?

35° 0'16.26"N
102°22'35.92"W

Altitude: 12,000 feet


The Texas panhandle? (My maps are in decimal, and I'm too lazy to
convert right now.)

You bum. ;-) Here, I think this should be it:
35° 0'16.26"N = 35 + 0/60 + 16.26/60/60 = 35.0045166666666 North
102°22'35.92"W = 102 + 22/60 + 35.92/60/60 = 102.0099777777777 West
I think it's in Oklahoma somewhere, I'm not sure - I found it on Google Earth.
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
************************************************************
"In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first
create the universe."
- Carl Sagan, "Cosmos"
************************************************************
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity...
************************************************************
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Simpletons 04 Dec 2006 07:51:04 AM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:35 -0500, Uncle Clover
<UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:15:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:31:35 -0500, Uncle Clover
<UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:57:03 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:19 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

<snip>

I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.


Try a GPS receiver.


Do you mean these?

35° 0'16.26"N
102°22'35.92"W

Altitude: 12,000 feet


The Texas panhandle? (My maps are in decimal, and I'm too lazy to
convert right now.)


You bum. ;-) Here, I think this should be it:

35° 0'16.26"N = 35 + 0/60 + 16.26/60/60 = 35.0045166666666 North

102°22'35.92"W = 102 + 22/60 + 35.92/60/60 = 102.0099777777777 West

I think it's in Oklahoma somewhere, I'm not sure - I found it on Google Earth.

About a mile and a half north of Ranch Road 1062, about 10 miles west
of Canyon, Tx.
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User: "Dubh Ghall"

Title: Re: Simpletons 03 Dec 2006 08:48:14 PM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:35 -0500, Uncle Clover <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:15:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:31:35 -0500, Uncle Clover
<UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:57:03 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:19 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

<snip>

I've been looking for those
four leaf clovers formed where they're using center pivot wheel lines for
irrigation but haven't hit on one yet. I've seen them from planes, but in
fly-over country I'm never exactly sure where I am.


Try a GPS receiver.


Do you mean these?

35° 0'16.26"N
102°22'35.92"W

Altitude: 12,000 feet


The Texas panhandle? (My maps are in decimal, and I'm too lazy to
convert right now.)


You bum. ;-) Here, I think this should be it:

35° 0'16.26"N = 35 + 0/60 + 16.26/60/60 = 35.0045166666666 North

102°22'35.92"W = 102 + 22/60 + 35.92/60/60 = 102.0099777777777 West

I think it's in Oklahoma somewhere, I'm not sure - I found it on Google Earth.

Just west of Amarillo, Texas.
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