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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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07 Jul 2005 10:48:06 PM |
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"Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?" |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050703/ts_alt_afp/afplifestyleusreligion_050703203128
Sun Jul 3
WASHINGTON (AFP) -
America's moderate and progressive evangelists, outgunned for years by
the mighty "religious right," are demanding their own share of the
political action.
Their mantra, in a building campaign against conservative Christians,
a key constituency of President George W. Bush, is:
"Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?
"There is a silent majority of moderate and progressive Christians out
there and other people of faith who have felt completely left out of
the conversation," Jim Wallis, a leading evangelical activist, told
AFP.
Christians opposed to Bush, the most overtly religious president of
modern times, say his war in Iraq, and tax cuts which they claim favor
the rich, do not square with a faith which teaches followers to love
their neighbor.
"We can no longer stand by and watch people speak hatred, division,
war and greed in the name of our faith," said Patrick Mrotek, founder
of the new Christian Alliance for Progress.
"We must reclaim our faith."
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?" |
08 Jul 2005 01:08:40 AM |
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In article <11cruf456rpb32a@corp.supernews.com>,
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050703/ts_alt_afp/afplifestyleusreligion_0507032
03128
Sun Jul 3
WASHINGTON (AFP) -
America's moderate and progressive evangelists, outgunned for years by
the mighty "religious right," are demanding their own share of the
political action.
Their mantra, in a building campaign against conservative Christians,
a key constituency of President George W. Bush, is:
"Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?
"There is a silent majority of moderate and progressive Christians out
there and other people of faith who have felt completely left out of
the conversation," Jim Wallis, a leading evangelical activist, told
AFP.
Christians opposed to Bush, the most overtly religious president of
modern times, say his war in Iraq, and tax cuts which they claim favor
the rich, do not square with a faith which teaches followers to love
their neighbor.
"We can no longer stand by and watch people speak hatred, division,
war and greed in the name of our faith," said Patrick Mrotek, founder
of the new Christian Alliance for Progress.
"We must reclaim our faith."
God has always been pro-rich and pro-war. How else would the rich
protect themselves from the poor and the generals justify their bloody
wars?
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://www.rightard.org/
End Republican race hatred: http://www.thedarkwind.org/
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: "Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?" |
08 Jul 2005 10:51:36 AM |
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In article <jhachm-F2D745.23084007072005@news.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpres.com says...
"We must reclaim our faith."
God has always been pro-rich and pro-war. How else would the rich
protect themselves from the poor and the generals justify their bloody
wars?
If the Hebrew god hadn't been so consistently pro-rich and pro-war then
the alleged teachings of Jesus wouldn't have sounded all that different
from the usual tripe. Of course, the fact that Jesus was dirt-sucking-
poor and didn't have an army probably colored his views about poverty
and militarism a wee bit.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?" |
09 Jul 2005 03:07:22 AM |
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In article <MPG.1d384ef7266ff8399897a0@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachm-F2D745.23084007072005@news.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpres.com says...
"We must reclaim our faith."
God has always been pro-rich and pro-war. How else would the rich
protect themselves from the poor and the generals justify their bloody
wars?
If the Hebrew god hadn't been so consistently pro-rich and pro-war then
the alleged teachings of Jesus wouldn't have sounded all that different
from the usual tripe. Of course, the fact that Jesus was dirt-sucking-
poor and didn't have an army probably colored his views about poverty
and militarism a wee bit.
Of course that didn't stop his followers. I haven't heard the one about
the chances of a rich man getting into Heaven being less than a camel
getting through the eye of a needle for a long long time.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "David Rice, Esq." |
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| Title: Re: "Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?" |
08 Jul 2005 05:09:15 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:48:06 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050703/ts_alt_afp/afplifestyleusreligion_050703203128
Sun Jul 3
WASHINGTON (AFP) -
America's moderate and progressive evangelists, outgunned for years by
the mighty "religious right," are demanding their own share of the
political action.
Their mantra, in a building campaign against conservative Christians,
a key constituency of President George W. Bush, is:
"Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?
The better question is, "Since when were the gods pro-anything?"
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: "Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?" |
08 Jul 2005 08:03:59 PM |
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(David Rice, Esq.) wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:48:06 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050703/ts_alt_afp/afplifestyleusreligion_050703203128
"Since when was God pro-war, and pro-rich?
The better question is, "Since when were the gods pro-anything?"
Or con-anything for that matter, since they don't exist.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://www.rightard.org/
End Republican race hatred: http://www.thedarkwind.org/
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