since the fall. After all, it is the ground that gets cursed. But it is
cursed while Adam is toiling on it. It specifically says, "through
painful toil *you * will eat of it all the days of your life. 18 It will
produce thorns and thistles for *you *=3F" But many fundies interpret the
curses/punishments specified in this section of chapter 3 in a universal
way, especially including the curse one verse earlier on Eve to have
great pain in child birth and to be ruled over by her husband. In fact,
that's why Jehovah's witless and various other fanatic christers don't
like things like pain medication or other medical intervention during
childbirth.
So consider what it would mean if these curses were universal.
Not only are women supposed to suffer in childbirth, but men are supposed
to suffer by having to till the soil. But that would make John Deere and
his ilk absolute tools of the devil, because it's pretty fucking easy to
ride along in an air-conditioned, GPS controlled combine these days.
There's no sweat on your brow as you're grooving to music, reading a
playboy mag, and sipping your mocha latte as you pilot modern farm
equipment across a field. Modern fertilizer and a host of labor-saving
devices make farming far easier than it's ever been. Heck, most of us
don't even have to farm to get our food.

Has god changed his mind about the need for humans to suffer the painful
toil of farming? If so, why did god even create humans in the first
place, when he could have just created some robot farm machinery to tend
his garden? Inquiring minds want to know.

I ask your patience as I continue to rip on Genesis. As I've said
before, I believe that Genesis is one of the softest targets in the
bible. It is effective to criticize it, because even the most biblically
illiterate fundy fuckwit has heard the Genesis stories, at least in rough
outline, though, in all probability, they have never seriously thought
about any of the implications.
Here is one more gem of silly theology from Genesis 3. BTW, I
anticipate that this sort of argument might bring biblical apologists
around to my way of thinking that the curses here are not intended to be
universal. But, as it stands, many theists do interpret them in a
universal way. Here is the charming bible god frothing at the mouth
because Adam ate Eve's tasty little fruit.
Gen 3:17, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree
about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' Cursed is the
ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the
days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and
you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you
will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were
taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return".
Now, one interpretation - the one I favor - is that this curse
applies only to Adam. However, many fundies interpret this curses as
being inherited and applying universally to the human race in perpetuity
since the fall. After all, it is the ground that gets cursed. But it is
cursed while Adam is toiling on it. It specifically says, "through
painful toil *you * will eat of it all the days of your life. 18 It will
produce thorns and thistles for *you *=3F" But many fundies interpret the
curses/punishments specified in this section of chapter 3 in a universal
way, especially including the curse one verse earlier on Eve to have
great pain in child birth and to be ruled over by her husband. In fact,
that's why Jehovah's witless and various other fanatic christers don't
like things like pain medication or other medical intervention during
childbirth.
So consider what it would mean if these curses were universal.
Not only are women supposed to suffer in childbirth, but men are supposed
to suffer by having to till the soil. But that would make John Deere and
his ilk absolute tools of the devil, because it's pretty fucking easy to
ride along in an air-conditioned, GPS controlled combine these days.
There's no sweat on your brow as you're grooving to music, reading a
playboy mag, and sipping your mocha latte as you pilot modern farm
equipment across a field. Modern fertilizer and a host of labor-saving
devices make farming far easier than it's ever been. Heck, most of us
don't even have to farm to get our food.
Yet if we take the Genesis account seriously <smirk>, we ought to
be out there toiling and suffering until we return to dust. At most
funerals they use that "dust to dust" nonsense. So why isn't Jerry
Falwell out there preaching about the evils of using farm machinery to
cheat god's curse after the Fall? Why isn't his fat ***** picking chiles
or swinging a garden ***** (wait, that's Jimmy Swaggert)?
Has god changed his mind about the need for humans to suffer the painful
toil of farming? If so, why did god even create humans in the first
place, when he could have just created some robot farm machinery to tend
his garden? Inquiring minds want to know.