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"Yjk Ooo" |
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28 Jul 2003 01:27:35 AM |
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Size of the universe? |
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
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| User: "Kenneth Doyle" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
28 Jul 2003 09:44:25 PM |
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"AckbarJedi" <DeathtoSpamAckbarJedi@DeathtoSpamhotmail.com>
wrote in news:3f240b33_4@newsfeed:
"Kenneth Doyle" <nobody@notmail.com> wrote in message
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yjkoo@webtv.net (Yjk Ooo) wrote in news:8662-3F24C257-
258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
An interesting site: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/
This seems to suggest that the universe is at least 14
billion light-years across.
Many more links appear via Google. Search for: universe
size.
Well obviously it's at least 14 billion light years across.
The universe has been in existance for 14 billion years
and thus out hubble universe (the universe we can currently
observe) is either 14 billion ly across or we'd see the
edge already. --
OK, call me slow, but I've just realised that that argument
would imply that 14b ly. would be the universe's radius, not
it's diameter (and the expansion rate is C, not 1/2 C).
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| User: "Kenneth Doyle" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
28 Jul 2003 09:30:08 PM |
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"AckbarJedi" <DeathtoSpamAckbarJedi@DeathtoSpamhotmail.com>
wrote in news:3f240b33_4@newsfeed:
"Kenneth Doyle" <nobody@notmail.com> wrote in message
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yjkoo@webtv.net (Yjk Ooo) wrote in news:8662-3F24C257-
258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
An interesting site: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/
This seems to suggest that the universe is at least 14
billion light-years across.
Many more links appear via Google. Search for: universe
size.
Well obviously it's at least 14 billion light years across.
The universe has been in existance for 14 billion years
and thus out hubble universe (the universe we can currently
observe) is either 14 billion ly across or we'd see the
edge already. --
Well, cosmology is not my forte. I did notice the correlation
between the size of the universe and it's age. I concluded that
the universe must be expanding at half the speed of light, is
that so?
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
29 Jul 2003 03:25:13 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:30:08 GMT, Kenneth Doyle <nobody@notmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
"AckbarJedi" <DeathtoSpamAckbarJedi@DeathtoSpamhotmail.com>
wrote in news:3f240b33_4@newsfeed:
"Kenneth Doyle" <nobody@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93C6B11791AB6nobodynotmailcom@61.9.191.5...
yjkoo@webtv.net (Yjk Ooo) wrote in news:8662-3F24C257-
258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
An interesting site: http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/
This seems to suggest that the universe is at least 14
billion light-years across.
Many more links appear via Google. Search for: universe
size.
Well obviously it's at least 14 billion light years across.
The universe has been in existance for 14 billion years
and thus out hubble universe (the universe we can currently
observe) is either 14 billion ly across or we'd see the
edge already. --
Well, cosmology is not my forte. I did notice the correlation
between the size of the universe and it's age. I concluded that
the universe must be expanding at half the speed of light, is
that so?
Um, why half?
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/Apostate
atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by vernon; NEW! IMPROVED! plonked by Lani_girl
I doubt, therefore I might be.
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
30 Jul 2003 02:42:47 AM |
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"AckbarJedi" <DeathtoSpamAckbarJedi@DeathtoSpamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f240b33_4@newsfeed>...
"Kenneth Doyle" <nobody@notmail.com> wrote in message
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yjkoo@webtv.net (Yjk Ooo) wrote in news:8662-3F24C257-
258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
An interesting site:
http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/
This seems to suggest that the universe is at least 14 billion
light-years across.
Many more links appear via Google. Search for: universe size.
Well obviously it's at least 14 billion light years across. The universe
has been in existance for 14 billion years and thus out hubble universe (the
universe we can currently observe) is either 14 billion ly across or we'd
see the edge already.
Assuming I've interpreted my cosmology books correctly, the universe
expanded so quickly during its early inflationary phase, that it is
now considerably bigger than the 14.7 billion lightyear bubble which
constitutes our visible universe.
Regards,
(-: ian :-)
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| User: "Jim Helfer" |
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28 Jul 2003 10:01:09 AM |
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"Yjk Ooo" <yjkoo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Well, You may think it's a long way down to the chemist's ........
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| User: "Ike Milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
28 Jul 2003 08:38:07 AM |
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"Yjk Ooo" <yjkoo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
First prove it exists.
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| User: "Ike Milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
01 Aug 2003 08:40:23 AM |
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"Martin Thomas" <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:02:41 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:
Ike Milligan wrote in alt.atheism
Yjk Ooo <yjkoo@webtv.net> wrote in message
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
First prove it exists.
Prove the universe exists?
The question meant what does he want to prove, the size or the existence?
Something can exist without having a size.
But before that you have to establish that there is someone there
to do the proving. If you cannot prove that they exist, then
there is no point listening to any so called proof that they
might pretend to present to you.
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Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "Khartoum" |
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28 Jul 2003 09:25:17 AM |
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"Yjk Ooo" <yjkoo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
It is considerably larger than the void between your ears.
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Khartoum aa#2110
I think we ought always to entertain our opinions with some measure of
doubt. I shouldn't wish people dogmatically to believe any philosophy, not
even mine.
Bertrand Russell
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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30 Jul 2003 09:03:31 AM |
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(Yjk Ooo) thought hard and said:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Big. Bigger than the biggest thing you can imagine.
(And no, I do not want to know what that 'thing' is.)
--
-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
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| User: "Dr. Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
28 Jul 2003 06:27:33 PM |
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(Yjk Ooo) wrote in news:8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-
2232.public.lawson.webtv.net:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Big.
Really, really big.
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Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Staves -- a.a. #1939
For Father Flanigan: Don't Pet the Small Stuff
Everyone Else: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
"I'm done for."
--Adlai Stevenson, when told that he had all the thinking people
on his side for his presidential campaign.
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| User: "Mike Smith" |
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28 Jul 2003 08:54:12 AM |
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(Yjk Ooo) wrote:
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=Re: Size of the universe?
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=Do you have any idea?
As big as time is long.
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with a plumbline in his hand." - Amos 7:7
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| User: "johac" |
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29 Jul 2003 01:17:13 AM |
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In article
<8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
(Yjk Ooo) wrote:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Bigger than a bread box.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
"In those parts of the world where learning and science has prevailed,
miracles ceased; but in those parts that are barbarous and ignorant,
miracles are still in vogue." -Letters of Ethan Allen to Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Size of the universe? |
28 Jul 2003 08:49:35 AM |
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In article <8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>, Yjk Ooo
says...
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Nope and I couldn't care less.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "duke32" |
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28 Jul 2003 02:46:44 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:49:35 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>, Yjk Ooo
says...
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Nope and I couldn't care less.
Do you have any values at all, moral or otherwise?
duke, American-American
*****
First Principle and Foundation: Man was created
to praise, reverence, and serve God, and by this
means to save his soul; and the other things on
the face of the earth were created for man's sake,
and in order to aid him in the prosecution of the
end for which he was created.
*****
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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28 Jul 2003 03:00:38 PM |
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In article <vavaivsbg01mgl3ng71lmqin5n21urklh0@4ax.com>, duke32 says...
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:49:35 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>, Yjk Ooo
says...
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Nope and I couldn't care less.
Do you have any values at all, moral or otherwise?
What does this question have to do with the fact that I couldn't care less how
big the universe is? Perhaps you could explain how the two are possibly
related.
And I'm sure I have more morals and values than you do, sweetie. I just don't
need some sky spook or priest to tell me how to behave - neither do I need
threats of eternal damnation to be a good person, which is something I'm sure
you require.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mike Painter mpainteratattdotnet" |
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28 Jul 2003 05:31:59 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:GhfVa.13278$cJ5.1209@www.newsranger.com...
In article <vavaivsbg01mgl3ng71lmqin5n21urklh0@4ax.com>, duke32 says...
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:49:35 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
Yjk Ooo
says...
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Nope and I couldn't care less.
Do you have any values at all, moral or otherwise?
What does this question have to do with the fact that I couldn't care less
how
big the universe is? Perhaps you could explain how the two are possibly
related.
And I'm sure I have more morals and values than you do, sweetie. I just
don't
need some sky spook or priest to tell me how to behave - neither do I need
threats of eternal damnation to be a good person, which is something I'm
sure
you require.
But You're a girl and Duke claims to be Roman Catholic.
I remember what the priest told me about girls.
And I remember Celta, my first "real" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink girlfriend
who taught me the truth.
They do like sex. (and not all boys are animals.)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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29 Jul 2003 08:20:14 AM |
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In article <58712cb8984f70adcb5bd224dcc77c66@free.teranews.com>, Mike Painter
says...
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:GhfVa.13278$cJ5.1209@www.newsranger.com...
In article <vavaivsbg01mgl3ng71lmqin5n21urklh0@4ax.com>, duke32 says...
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:49:35 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
In article <8662-3F24C257-258@storefull-2232.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
Yjk Ooo
says...
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Nope and I couldn't care less.
Do you have any values at all, moral or otherwise?
What does this question have to do with the fact that I couldn't care less
how
big the universe is? Perhaps you could explain how the two are possibly
related.
And I'm sure I have more morals and values than you do, sweetie. I just
don't
need some sky spook or priest to tell me how to behave - neither do I need
threats of eternal damnation to be a good person, which is something I'm
sure
you require.
But You're a girl and Duke claims to be Roman Catholic.
I remember what the priest told me about girls.
And I remember Celta, my first "real" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink girlfriend
who taught me the truth.
They do like sex. (and not all boys are animals.)
Stop it now! You're just encouraging puke's shameful flirtation! :D
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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28 Jul 2003 09:05:47 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:27:35 -0700 (PDT), (Yjk
Ooo) wrote:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
Big.
Very, very, Big.
Much much bigger than that.
Bigger than the theologian's tiny little Gods.
Bigger than all the egos of all the fundamentalists multiplied
together and raised to the power of each other squared.
Bigger than Zeus, Brahman, Thor, Eris.
Bigger than space and time.
Bigger than the space time continuum.
Bigger than all possible space time continua of all possible
dimensions.
Bigger than anyone can think.
Bigger than any entity anyone can imagine can think.
Don't forget to pay the rent.
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Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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28 Jul 2003 10:44:10 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:27:35 -0700 (PDT), a wanderer, known to us only
as (Yjk Ooo) warmed at our fire and told this tale:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
The observable universe has a radius of about 15 billion light years.
--
Douglas Berry
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Ike Milligan" |
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01 Aug 2003 08:47:12 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <> wrote in message
news:u4haivc3eaanenjir6catop25nck20n701@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:27:35 -0700 (PDT), a wanderer, known to us only
as (Yjk Ooo) warmed at our fire and told this tale:
Re: Size of the universe?
Do you have any idea?
The observable universe has a radius of about 15 billion light years.
--
Douglas Berry
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
The cosmic background radiation is non-uniform and many astronomers now
believe that it represents anomalies in the clouds on the surface formed at
the so-called "Big Bang". Many of them also doubt that anything beyond the
Big Bang can be known since it would be the result of a singularity, such as
a black hole is, so that no information can pass upward form its surface
including light. Which begs the question "What is the relationship of the
information which we have, to the postulated singularity somehow associated
with it?"
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