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"Abner Mintz" |
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20 Dec 2003 08:26:35 PM |
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Skeptic Back? |
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
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| User: "Jeremy Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 12:58:10 AM |
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(abnermintz@earthlink.net (Abner Mintz)):
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
--
Jeremy Martin
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 09:28:44 AM |
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Jeremy Martin <harhar@pirates-ahoy.com> wrote:
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
Well, I don't actually bother with Skeptic all *that*
often - it's more like every few years I poke him with
a stick to make sure he's still alive. :)
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 10:02:44 AM |
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(Abner Mintz) wrote in alt.atheism
Jeremy Martin <harhar@pirates-ahoy.com> wrote:
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
Well, I don't actually bother with Skeptic all *that*
often - it's more like every few years I poke him with
a stick to make sure he's still alive. :)
How do you tell which moniker to poke?
Look for Huxley references and go from there?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 12:22:10 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
How do you tell which moniker to poke?
Look for Huxley references and go from there?
Well, his behavior is pretty distinctive. He finds
an issue, stakes out a dogmatic position based on
a reference he finds somewhere (which rarely, if
ever, actually addresses the issue being discussed;
at best, it has some minor tangential relevance),
then abuses everyone who disagrees with his position,
continually pointing to whatever reference he found
as being the definitive answer to the issue.
While there are no doubt others out there with similar
behavior, he seems to be the only one obsessively
yapping and nipping at the heels of the denizens of
alt.atheism. :)
(And Huxley references posted over and over again are
a dead giveaway indeed.)
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 08:23:03 PM |
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(Abner Mintz) wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
How do you tell which moniker to poke?
Look for Huxley references and go from there?
Well, his behavior is pretty distinctive. He finds
an issue, stakes out a dogmatic position based on
a reference he finds somewhere (which rarely, if
ever, actually addresses the issue being discussed;
at best, it has some minor tangential relevance),
then abuses everyone who disagrees with his position,
continually pointing to whatever reference he found
as being the definitive answer to the issue.
While there are no doubt others out there with similar
behavior, he seems to be the only one obsessively
yapping and nipping at the heels of the denizens of
alt.atheism. :)
And he's got more nicknames than anyone else I can think
of around here. Very suspicious, or indicative of something or
another...
(And Huxley references posted over and over again are
a dead giveaway indeed.)
Is he still using the grey aliens in the whitehouse example?
Whenever I see that example, my skeptic hairs raise up.
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 08:30:33 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:58:10 -0600, Jeremy Martin
<harhar@pirates-ahoy.com> wrote:
(abnermintz@earthlink.net (Abner Mintz)):
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
I'm not even sure that Septic passes the Turing test.
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ROT-13 on Email to reply.
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 09:28:56 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:30:33 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:58:10 -0600, Jeremy Martin
<harhar@pirates-ahoy.com> wrote:
(abnermintz@earthlink.net (Abner Mintz)):
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
I'm not even sure that Septic passes the Turing test.
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In fact, the inverse!
Quote:
:Alex Hunsley: Skeptic is actually one of the only
:posters I've ever seen in alt.atheism who passes the
:UnTuring Test - i.e. the postings appear to be computer
:generated, but are probably written by a human. The
:UnTuring test is one of the cornerstones of AS
:(Artificial Stupidity), for which Skeptic is our best
:model currently.
:
Unqote.
Mark.
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Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
23 Dec 2003 11:06:37 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:30:33 -0500, raven1
<cflpurqryrcunag@synfuznvy.pbz>, Message ID:
<2hbbuv0mutk0igcb97or2u2nuqklqgdpf7@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:58:10 -0600, Jeremy Martin
<harhar@pirates-ahoy.com> wrote:
(abnermintz@earthlink.net (Abner Mintz)):
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
I'm not even sure that Septic passes the Turing test.
Clear terminal failure.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 09:07:34 AM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:58:10 -0600, Jeremy Martin
<harhar@pirates-ahoy.com> wrote:
The length of time that these posters go at it make me believe
that they are actually AI programs.
I'm not even sure that Septic passes the Turing test.
Then you two agree on this point.
Personally, it is my opinion that Skeptic is your run of the mill
obsessive compulsive with a background in logic. At least, he never
tires of the subject. He (I say he, because most obsessive
compulsives are male) is not very imaginative in his arguments, with
the exception of making up names, but has kept a few other obsessive
compulsives busy for a couple years running. He argues to satisfy
himself, not to change anyone else's mind, apparently.
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John Popelish
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
20 Dec 2003 10:21:31 PM |
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Abner Mintz wrote:
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
I hope you realize that this post will just be the event that
precipitates another identity. Talk about deterministic behavior.
--
John Popelish
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
20 Dec 2003 11:15:12 PM |
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John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
I hope you realize that this post will just be the event that
precipitates another identity. Talk about deterministic behavior.
Cause and effect, man, cause and effect. If we just keep him
cycling through identities, eventually he'll have used up
every possible name and will be forced to consume himself
like a snake eating its own tail. :)
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
20 Dec 2003 11:39:56 PM |
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Abner Mintz wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
I hope you realize that this post will just be the event that
precipitates another identity. Talk about deterministic behavior.
Cause and effect, man, cause and effect. If we just keep him
cycling through identities, eventually he'll have used up
every possible name and will be forced to consume himself
like a snake eating its own tail. :)
This is like watching someone turning a click beetle on its back, over
and over just to see it pop.
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John Popelish
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 09:28:43 AM |
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Abner Mintz wrote:
Cause and effect, man, cause and effect. If we just keep him
cycling through identities, eventually he'll have used up
every possible name and will be forced to consume himself
like a snake eating its own tail. :)
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
This is like watching someone turning a click beetle on its back, over
and over just to see it pop.
You may have a point there - except that in this case the click
beetle seems to actively enjoy it. This may be a case where
the click beetle masochist is saying 'click me' and the sadists
are saying 'no'. :)
BTW, there is an alternate possibility to making him run through
every possible identity. Didn't Arthur C. Clark speculate in
'The Nine Billion Names of Skeptic' that if he ran out of names,
it wouldn't just be him that ended its existance?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
20 Dec 2003 08:43:40 PM |
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Abner Mintz wrote:
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
What took you so long? ;-)
--
Fred Stone
October 2001 Taliban supreme leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar: "The
situation where we are now, there are two things: either death or
victory. To those who are fighting and bombarding us, they should
understand the Afghan man is a fighter willing to die for jihad."
June 1944 General George S. Patton: "I want you to remember that no
***** ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the
other poor dumb ***** die for his country..."
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
20 Dec 2003 10:12:11 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
What took you so long? ;-)
Oh, I like to give new posters the doubt of not
being Skeptic - it seems kind of a harsh thing
to slap someone with, and so I end up with a
'better a guilty person be not called Skeptic
than an innocent person be called Skeptic'
mentality. Naive of me, perhaps. ;)
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 09:15:13 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:26:35 GMT, (Abner
Mintz) wrote:
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
Thats him.
http://www.mylinuxisp.com/~raymond/alt.atheism/faqs/skeptic.php
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
He has been B. Corporel since 01 Dec 2003.
Although you have probably just inspired him to change his name again.
8-)
Mark.
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Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
21 Dec 2003 09:32:51 PM |
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Mark Richardson <mark.richardson@die.spammers.die> wrote:
He has been B. Corporel since 01 Dec 2003.
Really? I must have missed the changeover. Deucedly rude
of him not to warn us what new name he's trying to hide under.
:)
Although you have probably just inspired him to change his name again.
8-)
I'd make a comment about a way in which his name changes could
be worse, but he'd probably take the suggestion and it would
be my fault, so I think I'll just vaguely allude to it with
this sentence instead. :)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Skeptic Back? |
22 Dec 2003 09:04:26 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:26:35 GMT, (Abner
Mintz), Message ID: <1g6abi4.12c0wpuecon80N%>
wrote in alt.atheism;
Hey there, Skeptic watchers. I think Skeptic
may be back under yet another new name - a
Mr. Corperel or some such is showing all of
his distinctive personality quirks. :)
We'll see - I threw out a pretty much irresistable
line for him to snap at, we'll see if he takes
the hook and outs himself again.
Yeah, it's Septic. Call the 'pumping company' (ignore/filter) and have
it sucked out.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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