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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 27 May 2006 10:46:15 PM
Object: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients, Terri Schiavo Family Optimistic
One can only wonder what Terri would have had to say if the Ambian had been
as effective with her, as it had been with others in a similiar state.
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1524.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- British and South African researchers have
discovered that they can temporarily wake up patients who are comatose or in
a supposedly permanent vegetative state by, ironically, giving them a common
sleeping pill. The drug allowed comatose patients to interact and talk with
their family for hours before the effects wear off.
Writing in the medical journal NeuroRehabilitation, the doctors said they
found success when giving the patients zolpidem, commonly known as Ambien
and taken by millions to help them fall asleep.
Doctors reported they gave the sleeping pills to three patients, two of whom
suffered sever head injuries in automobile accidents and the third was left
brain damaged in a near-drowning incident.
The report indicates the patients have been taking Ambien every day for
several years with no side effects.
"The effect is amazing to say the least," Ralf Clauss of the Royal Surrey
County Hospital, tells the medical journal Nature. "They can interact, make
jokes and speak on the phone."
Nature reports that one patient has even played catch with family members.
News reports of the success of the drug prompted Terri Schiavo's family to
call for a moratorium of all potential ordinary care removal for persons
diagnosed in a PVS condition.
Terri's family pleaded for years with her former husband Michael to use
different treatments or medicines that could possibly help improve Terri's
condition, but were denied.
Robert Schindler, Terri's father, said in a statement obtained by
LifeNews.com that patients who are wrongly diagnosed with PVS, like Terri,
could benefit from the researchers' discovery.
"We at the Foundation are seeing that the PVS diagnosis is being commonly
misdiagnosed," he said.
"Consequently, it has become very obvious we don't know enough about this
so-called diagnosis, and common sense dictates that the removal of food and
water based on this misclassification must end until further studies can be
conducted," he added.
Nature reports that the drug company ReGen Therapeutics in London is
attempting to make a drug that can help such patients achieve alertness and
awareness.
Clauss says he hopes to begin clinical trials and discover more about how
various patients respond. He also says he thinks the drug could be turned
into a slow-release formula that would allow patients to take it a few times
a day and become permanently aware.
This isn't the first time drugs has been used to wake comatose patients.
In December 2000, Patricia White Bull, after given the drug Amantadine (used
to stimulate people with Parkinson's disease and brain damage) awoke after
16 years of being in what doctors were calling a persistent vegetative
state.
--
----------
J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients 28 May 2006 12:22:30 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

One can only wonder what Terri would have had to say if the Ambian had been
as effective with her, as it had been with others in a similiar state.

Did you "forget" that Schaivo was literally missing most of her brain?
That there was NO chance of recovery?

http://www.lifenews.com/

Yeah, that's a real credible source.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients 28 May 2006 02:18:23 AM
*Did you "forget" that Schaivo was literally missing most of her brain?
*That there was NO chance of recovery?
Since when is J Young interested in facts and the truth?
He's more brain-dead than Terri Schiavo ever was...
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients 28 May 2006 07:07:05 AM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Parsifal in episode
<1148800703.162508.42360@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...

*Did you "forget" that Schaivo was literally missing most of her brain?

*That there was NO chance of recovery?

Since when is J Young interested in facts and the truth? He's more
brain-dead than Terri Schiavo ever was...

I figure that's what he's worried about, somebody pulling the plug on him
because they can't find a brain...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
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for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
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User: "Jeff White"

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients 05 Jun 2006 11:07:57 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:-IOdnUNIo6H0D-TZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Parsifal in episode
<1148800703.162508.42360@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...

*Did you "forget" that Schaivo was literally missing most of her
brain?

*That there was NO chance of recovery?

Since when is J Young interested in facts and the truth? He's more
brain-dead than Terri Schiavo ever was...


I figure that's what he's worried about, somebody pulling the plug
on him
because they can't find a brain...

i'm sure he /has/ a brain, he just doesn't /use/ it. stop telling
fundies they don't have brains; you're just excusing and implicitly
encouraging their continued ignorance.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

.




User: "Jeff White"

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients, Terri Schiavo Family Optimistic 28 May 2006 12:50:46 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:NsudnSU5Rd5JgeTZ4p2dnA@giganews.com...

One can only wonder what Terri would have had to say if the Ambian had
been
as effective with her, as it had been with others in a similiar state.

terry schaivo was in cortical death: i.e., there was no way in hell she
would ever wake up.
you need to go earn a degree with medicine before you think you're qualified
to make remarks about ambien helping people out of comas. zolpidem is a
sedative.

http://www.lifenews.com/bio1524.html

pro life *****. go to college, hucklebuck.
.

User: "Pastor Kutchie"

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients, Terri Schiavo Family Optimistic 28 May 2006 05:14:36 AM
wrote:

One can only wonder what Terri would have had to say if the Ambian had been
as effective with her, as it had been with others in a similiar state.

Ambian has not been effective with anybody who was brain dead. I won't
state the obvious here but I can guess what most of your regular
readers are thinking.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Sleeping Pills May Wake Up PVS Patients, Terri Schiavo Family Optimistic 05 Jun 2006 11:36:20 AM
wrote:

Robert Schindler, Terri's father, said in a statement obtained by
LifeNews.com that patients who are wrongly diagnosed with PVS,
like Terri, could benefit from the researchers' discovery.

I'm glad they included this, otherwise someone might have
mistaken the Schindler's for sincere -- instead of the money
grubbing, headline chasing parasites that they are.
There was never any question about Terri's diagnosis amongst real
doctors, and even the fake doctors (Hi, Bill Frisk!) could no
longer deny it after the autopsy.
The only people who "wrongfully diagnosed" Terri were the
people with a political agenda to serve... like her parasitic
parents.... the GOP leadership.... fundy whack jobs.
.

User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 28 May 2006 02:03:34 PM
In article <NsudnSU5Rd5JgeTZ4p2dnA@giganews.com>,

says...

One can only wonder what Terri would have had to say

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for the
fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it might be
able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking moron.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "Charlie Wilkes"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 29 May 2006 02:58:22 AM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <NsudnSU5Rd5JgeTZ4p2dnA@giganews.com>,


says...

One can only wonder what Terri would have had to say



Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for the
fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it might be
able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking moron.

Maybe it would have worked if they mixed some cornstarch in with the
Ambien.
Charlie
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 29 May 2006 07:56:55 PM
In article <sbal72p49mao67le6ro5e8mqu94kv8crqh@4ax.com>,
charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com says...

Maybe it would have worked if they mixed some cornstarch in with the
Ambien.


<grin> Maybe they could slurp all the liquid out of her head with a big
syringe, put it in a cup and pretend that was their daughter.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.


User: "duke"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 28 May 2006 03:41:38 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for the
fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it might be
able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking moron.

But she wasn't dead, at least not until you murdering dirtbag animals demanded
that she be starved to death.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 28 May 2006 03:51:07 PM
In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for the
fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it might be
able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking moron.


But she wasn't dead

She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.

, at least not until you murdering

She died decades ago, when her heart stopped for around 10 minutes, you
fucking moron.

dirtbag animals

Humans are primate animals, you fucking moron. Only you act like a poo-
throwing, unevolved baboon and a fucking moron.

demanded
that she be starved to death.

No, they withheld treatment, you fucking moron. She could get up and get
herself a fucking sandwich any time she wanted, you fucking moron. But
her brain was dead, you fucking moron.

duke, American-American and Fucking-Moron
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of being a fucking moron."
Pope Paul VI (Pope Paul IV was a fucking moron)

--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 29 May 2006 05:47:06 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

But she wasn't dead

She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.

No, you murdering scumbag, she was ALIVE.
You were one that demanded she be starved to death, and she was.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 29 May 2006 07:52:24 PM
In article <ddum72tdusafjbdkdoic6s4gd1eqgfo34r@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

But she wasn't dead

She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


No,

Incorrect, you fucking moron, her brain was dead and that made her dead.
Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy showed and you know it,
you fucking moron. She died decades ago, you fucking moron.

you murdering

First off, you fucking moron, this was a legal action and murder is
illegal, so it could not have been murder, you fucking moron. Secondly,
you're the one who supports the murder of hundreds of thousands in Iraq,
in an illegal war of aggression, you fucking moron. BTW, dumbass dookie,
you fucking moron, what does your pope think about your support of
Chimpy's illegal war of aggression?

scumbag, she was ALIVE.

Incorrect, you fucking moron. Her brain was dead, you fucking moron.


You were one that demanded she be starved to death, and she was.

When did I demand that, you fucking moron.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 05:26:26 PM
On Mon, 29 May 2006 18:52:24 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

But she wasn't dead

She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.

No,

Incorrect, you fucking moron, her brain was dead and that made her dead.
Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy showed and you know it,
you fucking moron. She died decades ago, you fucking moron.

She was starved to death, quib. Maybe it will happen to you one day because of
this.

you murdering

First off, you fucking moron, this was a legal action and murder is
illegal, so it could not have been murder, you fucking moron.

It was legal only in a civil court. Those that supported her death will answer
to God at the moment they die

Secondly,
you're the one who supports the murder of hundreds of thousands in Iraq,
in an illegal war of aggression, you fucking moron.

No, we are advised to render unto God that which is God's, and to Caesar that
which is Caesar's. That means Iraq is our civil duty.

BTW, dumbass dookie,
you fucking moron, what does your pope think about your support of
Chimpy's illegal war of aggression?

That it's not illegal.

scumbag, she was ALIVE.

Incorrect, you fucking moron. Her brain was dead, you fucking moron.

But she was alive and breathing on her own.

You were one that demanded she be starved to death, and she was.

When did I demand that, you fucking moron.

When you supported her starving to death, you murderer.

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 06:57:33 PM
In article <6dhp72tphopci2ajedm3kauvmanor19tuv@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...

On Mon, 29 May 2006 18:52:24 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

But she wasn't dead

She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.

No,


Incorrect, you fucking moron, her brain was dead and that made her dead.
Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy showed and you know it,
you fucking moron. She died decades ago, you fucking moron.


She was starved to death, quib.

Her brain was already dead, you fucking moron, so she wasn't starved to
death, because she was already dead.

Maybe it will happen to you one day because of
this.

What will happen, you fucking moron. Her brain was already liquified,
just as yours is, you fucking moron.


you murdering


First off, you fucking moron, this was a legal action and murder is
illegal, so it could not have been murder, you fucking moron.


It was legal only in a civil court.

It was legal in any court, you fucking moron. Liars for god attempted
every civil and criminal maneuver they could find, but the actions in
the Schiavo case remained 100% legal in every respect, you fucking
moron. Congress even tried to pass special laws that the courts found
were found to be in conflict with her constitutional rights, you
fucking.

Those that supported her death will answer
to God at the moment they die

There is no god, you fucking moron.


Secondly,
you're the one who supports the murder of hundreds of thousands in Iraq,
in an illegal war of aggression, you fucking moron.


No, we are advised to render unto God that which is God's, and to Caesar that
which is Caesar's. That means Iraq is our civil duty.

Even you don't have a clue what you're trying to say here, you fucking
moron.


BTW, dumbass dookie,
you fucking moron, what does your pope think about your support of
Chimpy's illegal war of aggression?


That it's not illegal.

It certainly is illegal under international law, you ***** moron.


scumbag, she was ALIVE.

Incorrect, you fucking moron. Her brain was dead, you fucking moron.


But she was alive and breathing on her own.

No, she was dead, because her brain was dead, you fucking moron. Her
lungs are not sufficient to make her a person when her brain has died,
you fucking moron.


You were one that demanded she be starved to death, and she was.

When did I demand that, you fucking moron.


When you supported her starving to death, you murderer.

It was legal, and therefore not murder, you fucking moron. I supported
her husband's legal authority to act on behalf of his wife, who was
legitimately and legally brain dead. He was carrying out her wishes,
according to all credible evidence, you fucking moron .
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 31 May 2006 05:59:55 PM
On Tue, 30 May 2006 17:57:33 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

She was starved to death, quib.

Her brain was already dead, you fucking moron, so she wasn't starved to
death, because she was already dead.

No, quib. Don't you get it yet, little boy. She was alive. She was not dead.
People of your ilk demanded that she starve to death, and so, thanks to you, she
was starved to death.

Maybe it will happen to you one day because of
this.

What will happen, you fucking moron. Her brain was already liquified,
just as yours is, you fucking moron.

She was alive. Look it up, you morally challenged person.

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 01 Jun 2006 12:56:13 AM
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

Maybe it will happen to you one day because of
this.


What will happen, you fucking moron. Her brain was already liquified,
just as yours is, you fucking moron.


She was alive. Look it up, you morally challenged person.

YOU let children die the same way, exccpe that YOU could be saving the
lives of starving children and, because you're an immoral hypocrite
you prefer to let them starve. An unlike Schaivo, the children you
let starve to death actually do feel the pain.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.




User: "Jim Lovejoy"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 29 May 2006 08:19:16 PM
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ee54531f1c7ad1f9899dc@news.readfreenews.net:

In article <ddum72tdusafjbdkdoic6s4gd1eqgfo34r@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

But she wasn't dead

She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


No,


Incorrect, you fucking moron, her brain was dead and that made her
dead. Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy showed and you
know it, you fucking moron. She died decades ago, you fucking moron.



you murdering


First off, you fucking moron, this was a legal action and murder is
illegal, so it could not have been murder, you fucking moron.
Secondly, you're the one who supports the murder of hundreds of
thousands in Iraq, in an illegal war of aggression, you fucking moron.
BTW, dumbass dookie, you fucking moron, what does your pope think
about your support of Chimpy's illegal war of aggression?



scumbag, she was ALIVE.


Incorrect, you fucking moron. Her brain was dead, you fucking moron.



You were one that demanded she be starved to death, and she was.


When did I demand that, you fucking moron.

You keep calling 'duke' "a fucking moron".
I wish you would stop, if he were a "fucking moron" that would imply that
he could reproduce.
With any luck, there's no one with such low standard that they'd ***** him.
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 04:47:23 PM
In article <bMKdnc8zFuYJAObZRVn-uA@nventure.com>,

says...

I wish you would stop, if he were a "fucking moron" that would imply that
he could reproduce.

I assure you that this is not what I am expressing by the term ;). Even
Dukie's hand would turn him down, I'm sure.
.




User: "Uncle Buck"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 28 May 2006 04:00:32 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for the
fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it might be
able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.

Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he can
-identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really, read your own
statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out why. :-#
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
************************************************
The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 28 May 2006 04:38:43 PM
In article <ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>,
UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for the
fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it might be
able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he can
-identify- with her.

I do agree that dukkkie is a fucking moron and identifies with his
braindead CrapLick, wannabe girlfriend Terry Schiavo. Of course, even
she would give him any *****, because he's an ugly, 62-year-old virgin
and a fucking moron.

--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 28 May 2006 09:07:17 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Uncle Buck in episode
<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he can
-identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really, read your
own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out why.

I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Kurt Nicklas"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 29 May 2006 10:25:08 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:2-SdnR38773IyufZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Uncle Buck in episode
<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he can
-identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really, read your
own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out why.


I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...

You'd like to be that "somebody" to be *you, right Bilbo?
You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 12:14:34 PM
"Kurt Nicklas" <kurt_nicklas@aport2000.ru> wrote in
snip


You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.

Projection? Oh yeah.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.

User: "Boy Toy"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 04:27:29 PM
On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:25:08 -0400, "Kurt Nicklas"
<kurt_nicklas@aport2000.ru> wrote in message
<Z_Heg.65046$iB2.48806@bignews4.bellsouth.net>


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:2-SdnR38773IyufZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Uncle Buck in episode
<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he can
-identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really, read your
own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out why.


I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...


You'd like to be that "somebody" to be *you, right Bilbo?

You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.

And you people are *so* obsessed with keeping dead people "alive."
It's too bad you don't care as much about the living as you do about
the dead.
.

User: "Bitchin Bonney"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 12:36:21 PM
On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:25:08 -0400, "Kurt Nicklas"
<kurt_nicklas@aport2000.ru> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:2-SdnR38773IyufZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Uncle Buck in episode
<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he can
-identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really, read your
own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out why.


I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...


You'd like to be that "somebody" to be *you, right Bilbo?

You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.

Actually death is quite common among homosexual males. 300,000 died
from AIDS in the US between 1981 and 1993. And homosexual males still
account for more that 80% of all AIDS cases in the US and the rate is
increasing. So they will doubtless become more familiar with the grim
reaper in the following years.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 05:50:02 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Bitchin' Bonney in episode
<lm0p72pumeqqb2vuhqg16ati8319hbo0l6@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:25:08 -0400, "Kurt Nicklas"
<kurt_nicklas@aport2000.ru> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:2-SdnR38773IyufZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Uncle Buck in episode
<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he
can -identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really,
read your own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure
out why.


I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...


You'd like to be that "somebody" to be *you, right Bilbo?

You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.



Actually death is quite common among homosexual males. 300,000 died from
AIDS in the US between 1981 and 1993. And homosexual males still account
for more that 80% of all AIDS cases in the US and the rate is increasing.
So they will doubtless become more familiar with the grim reaper in the
following years.

Yet despite all your shrieking, AIDS can't match the leading causes of
death in this country. The cumulative total number of deaths up to and
including 2004 was 529,113.
That's nearing a quarter century of AIDS being in the US. In 2004, there
were about 15,798 total deaths.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm
By comparison, in 2003, flu and pneumonia killed 65,163 people. Accidental
death, 109,277. Heart disease, 685,089.
Heart disease kills more people *each *year than AIDS has killed the
entire time it's been in this country.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/finaldeaths03_tables.pdf
And I hate to tell you this but the 2004 exposure categories break down
this way:
Male-to-male sexual contact............................17,691
Injection Drug Use......................................9,152
Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use......1,920
Heterosexual contact...................................13,128
Other.....................................................577
(First link above)
So about 19,611 cases could be attributed to gay males in some way. 22,280
were *not attributable to gay males in some way.
The infection rate among gay men has been declining for years. It has,
however, been rising among non-gays.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 10:53:29 AM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Kurt Nicklas in episode
<Z_Heg.65046$iB2.48806@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:2-SdnR38773IyufZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Uncle Buck in episode
<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he
can -identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really,
read your own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out
why.


I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...


You'd like to be that "somebody" to be *you, right Bilbo?

You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.

Oh go change your diaper.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Her brain was liquid, you fucking moron 30 May 2006 11:10:22 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, Kurt Nicklas in episode
<Z_Heg.65046$iB2.48806@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:2-SdnR38773IyufZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@megapath.net...

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<ro3k721ke7irotgumnmc0msh62nkd992ni@4ax.com>...


On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:51:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <4m2k729e5ggl4okuicahovg9dpiuvshl9v@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 13:03:34 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Her brain had turned to liquid, as the autopsy proved, you stupid
*****. Do you really think that Ambien would compensate for
the fact that she had no brain left? I guess you're hoping that it
might be able to compensate for your own brain damage, you fucking
moron.


But she wasn't dead



She was dead because her higher brain was dead, you fucking moron.


Don't any of you get it? Duke feels so strongly about it because he
can -identify- with her. She was the ideal fundie! I mean really,
read your own statement (above) again, and tell me you can't figure out
why.


I can see why he's so concerned. Somebody might try to pull the plug on
him if he so much as went in to get his teeth cleaned...


You'd like to be that "somebody" to be *you, right Bilbo?

You people are *so obsessed with the deaths of people you hate.


Oh go change your diaper.

Or do you just like to *joke about the deaths of people you hate?
Which is it?
.









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