Religions > Atheism > Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records
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Religions > Atheism |
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:46:07 PM |
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Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most
vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate
of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own
version of events.
In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who
commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly
disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came
under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March
13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.
But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released
yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act,
contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons
fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won
his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for
providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets
flying about him."
....
I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was
released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the
backing of more than 250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of
Kerry's fellow boat commanders.
A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his
actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG
THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the
disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units
in the flotilla also came under fire.
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Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that
Kerry was the author of an after-action report that described how his
boat came under enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that
assertion, and there is no convincing documentary evidence to settle
the argument. As the senior skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might
have been expected to write the after-action report for March 13, but
he said that Kerry routinely "duked the system" to present his version
of events.
For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand
what was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down
the river after the mine exploded under another boat. He later
returned to provide assistance to the stricken boat.
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Yang
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Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda" |
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| Title: IF you love America, then put Hillary Clinton out of all public offices! |
23 Aug 2004 09:33:23 PM |
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IF you love America, then put Hillary Clinton out of all public
offices!
This would be the greatest threat to Democracy and Freedom this
country
has ever faced. Wake up people. This lady is very dangerous. She is a
radical socialist and will forever ruin our country if allowed to
continue her poison amd agenda.
Some dreams never die, including one clung to by loyal Clintonistas:
that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the Democrats’ presidential
nominee next year. Is there a chance she would get into the race?
“That
depends on what you mean by ‘get into the race’,” one of her closest
friends and advisers explained to NEWSWEEK.
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 12:33:49 AM |
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On 19 Aug 2004 12:17:53 -0700, (Al) wrote:
an activist
One of the SwiftLiars got a medal beacause the bullets were flying
around that day. He didn't refuse the medal then, he didn't correct
the reports then. Either lied to the military to keep the medal or he
lied in the ads. Either way he is a liar.
5 boats went out, 5 officers on them. One came back with a hole in it
to explain.
The SwiftLiars gave their reports on the day of the incident. Kerry
towed one disabled craft home so we know they arrived at base
together. If they LIED THAT DAY, that is the lie they are stuck with.
If they TOLD THE TRUTH THAT DAY then they lied in their ads. Either
way you have liars. Look at their records first. What did they say on
the day they made their reports.
Why aren't they releasing their records?
We have established these are FELONY FRAUD LIARS. Now look at the
records of everybody else involved in this FELONY FRAUD. Look at
Merrie Spaeth whose thankfully dead husband, Tex Lezar, ran on the
same ticket that got GWB the governors mansion in Texas. This guy's
name is on a NCPA list on the internet with six known organized crime
felon's who specialize in FRAUD of the body politic. Don't know who
Spaeth is? She was a 'Monica', a whitehouse fellow, in the same
building where Nancy Reagan used to sneak off to the Lincoln bedroom
with Frank Sinatra. She also is the organizer of the first wave of
publicity for these FELONY FRAUD SWIFT BOAT ORGANIZED CRIME OPERATORS.
Demand Spaeth's records. Demand Lezar's records. Demand the
Lezar-Spaeth crime family friend's records.
There's a whole lot of records that Bob Perry is going to be
producing. Every federal and state agency will be on him like stink on
*****, making him produce records. You don't fund a CRIME OPERATION and
walk into the sunset whistling Dixie. Spaeth, and all, did a hatchet
job on McCain and robbed the republican party of his candidacy, but
they tangled with tougher meat than they know how to chew now.
Demand Bob Perry's records.
You want records. I'll release records. Read 'em and weep... Your
whole stinking organized crime network laid out so that even dumbfuk
jurors can follow without any shadow of a doubt.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 12:30:47 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:53:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
These "newly obtained records" were "found" by someone after almost 40
years, and probably can be traced back to Kerry"s efforts to get a
bronze medal.
It's a Bronze Star. And you get one because someone nominates you for
one based on your observed performance.
One of the SwiftLiars got a medal beacause the bullets were flying
around that day. He didn't refuse the medal then, he didn't correct
the reports then. Either lied to the military to keep the medal or he
lied in the ads. Either way he is a liar.
5 boats went out, 5 officers on them. One came back with a hole in it
to explain.
The SwiftLiars gave their reports on the day of the incident. Kerry
towed one disabled craft home so we know they arrived at base
together. If they LIED THAT DAY, that is the lie they are stuck with.
If they TOLD THE TRUTH THAT DAY then they lied in their ads. Either
way you have liars. Look at their records first. What did they say on
the day they made their reports.
Why aren't they releasing their records?
We have established these are FELONY FRAUD LIARS. Now look at the
records of everybody else involved in this FELONY FRAUD. Look at
Merrie Spaeth whose thankfully dead husband, Tex Lezar, ran on the
same ticket that got GWB the governors mansion in Texas. This guy's
name is on a NCPA list on the internet with six known organized crime
felon's who specialize in FRAUD of the body politic. Don't know who
Spaeth is? She was a 'Monica', a whitehouse fellow, in the same
building where Nancy Reagan used to sneak off to the Lincoln bedroom
with Frank Sinatra. She also is the organizer of the first wave of
publicity for these FELONY FRAUD SWIFT BOAT ORGANIZED CRIME OPERATORS.
Demand Spaeth's records. Demand Lezar's records. Demand the
Lezar-Spaeth crime family friend's records.
There's a whole lot of records that Bob Perry is going to be
producing. Every federal and state agency will be on him like stink on
*****, making him produce records. You don't fund a CRIME OPERATION and
walk into the sunset whistling Dixie. Spaeth, and all, did a hatchet
job on McCain and robbed the republican party of his candidacy, but
they tangled with tougher meat than they know how to chew now.
Demand Bob Perry's records.
You want records. I'll release records. Read 'em and weep... Your
whole stinking organized crime network laid out so that even dumbfuk
jurors can follow without any shadow of a doubt.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 12:29:17 AM |
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On 19 Aug 2004 05:09:54 -0700, (Dave Cook) wrote:
These "newly obtained records" were "found" by someone after almost 40
years,
One of the SwiftLiars got a medal beacause the bullets were flying
around that day. He didn't refuse the medal then, he didn't correct
the reports then. Either lied to the military to keep the medal or he
lied in the ads. Either way he is a liar.
5 boats went out, 5 officers on them. One came back with a hole in it
to explain.
The SwiftLiars gave their reports on the day of the incident. Kerry
towed one disabled craft home so we know they arrived at base
together. If they LIED THAT DAY, that is the lie they are stuck with.
If they TOLD THE TRUTH THAT DAY then they lied in their ads. Either
way you have liars. Look at their records first. What did they say on
the day they made their reports.
Why aren't they releasing their records?
We have established these are FELONY FRAUD LIARS. Now look at the
records of everybody else involved in this FELONY FRAUD. Look at
Merrie Spaeth whose thankfully dead husband, Tex Lezar, ran on the
same ticket that got GWB the governors mansion in Texas. This guy's
name is on a NCPA list on the internet with six known organized crime
felon's who specialize in FRAUD of the body politic. Don't know who
Spaeth is? She was a 'Monica', a whitehouse fellow, in the same
building where Nancy Reagan used to sneak off to the Lincoln bedroom
with Frank Sinatra. She also is the organizer of the first wave of
publicity for these FELONY FRAUD SWIFT BOAT ORGANIZED CRIME OPERATORS.
Demand Spaeth's records. Demand Lezar's records. Demand the
Lezar-Spaeth crime family friend's records.
There's a whole lot of records that Bob Perry is going to be
producing. Every federal and state agency will be on him like stink on
*****, making him produce records. You don't fund a CRIME OPERATION and
walk into the sunset whistling Dixie. Spaeth, and all, did a hatchet
job on McCain and robbed the republican party of his candidacy, but
they tangled with tougher meat than they know how to chew now.
Demand Bob Perry's records.
You want records. I'll release records. Read 'em and weep... Your
whole stinking organized crime network laid out so that even dumbfuk
jurors can follow without any shadow of a doubt.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
19 Aug 2004 12:28:19 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<a288i0d06ld98e1j8t68q6nrnd08mvbf9r@4ax.com>...
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
jwk
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 12:34:48 AM |
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On 19 Aug 2004 10:28:19 -0700, (jwk) wrote:
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
One of the SwiftLiars got a medal beacause the bullets were flying
around that day. He didn't refuse the medal then, he didn't correct
the reports then. Either lied to the military to keep the medal or he
lied in the ads. Either way he is a liar.
5 boats went out, 5 officers on them. One came back with a hole in it
to explain.
The SwiftLiars gave their reports on the day of the incident. Kerry
towed one disabled craft home so we know they arrived at base
together. If they LIED THAT DAY, that is the lie they are stuck with.
If they TOLD THE TRUTH THAT DAY then they lied in their ads. Either
way you have liars. Look at their records first. What did they say on
the day they made their reports.
Why aren't they releasing their records?
We have established these are FELONY FRAUD LIARS. Now look at the
records of everybody else involved in this FELONY FRAUD. Look at
Merrie Spaeth whose thankfully dead husband, Tex Lezar, ran on the
same ticket that got GWB the governors mansion in Texas. This guy's
name is on a NCPA list on the internet with six known organized crime
felon's who specialize in FRAUD of the body politic. Don't know who
Spaeth is? She was a 'Monica', a whitehouse fellow, in the same
building where Nancy Reagan used to sneak off to the Lincoln bedroom
with Frank Sinatra. She also is the organizer of the first wave of
publicity for these FELONY FRAUD SWIFT BOAT ORGANIZED CRIME OPERATORS.
Demand Spaeth's records. Demand Lezar's records. Demand the
Lezar-Spaeth crime family friend's records.
There's a whole lot of records that Bob Perry is going to be
producing. Every federal and state agency will be on him like stink on
*****, making him produce records. You don't fund a CRIME OPERATION and
walk into the sunset whistling Dixie. Spaeth, and all, did a hatchet
job on McCain and robbed the republican party of his candidacy, but
they tangled with tougher meat than they know how to chew now.
Demand Bob Perry's records.
You want records. I'll release records. Read 'em and weep... Your
whole stinking organized crime network laid out so that even dumbfuk
jurors can follow without any shadow of a doubt.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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| User: "james dorfu" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
19 Aug 2004 01:29:38 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:19 -0700, jwk wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<a288i0d06ld98e1j8t68q6nrnd08mvbf9r@4ax.com>...
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
Notice how carefully the WashPost avoids sourcing those words from 1969.
Thurlow has addressed the question of whether or not he wrote the report
of enemy fire. He says he did not. It is now the reponsibility of the
WashPost to question John Kerry fully on the matter. Did Kerry write
the reports himself? John Kerry must come clean both on his Bronze Star
and on his "Christmas in Cambodia".
Further, John Kerry must immediately cease his viscious attacks on
decorated war heroes.
--
Thursday is this week's annual "Pork Chops for Islam" day.
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| User: "Spottiswood" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
19 Aug 2004 03:47:07 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:29:38 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:19 -0700, jwk wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<a288i0d06ld98e1j8t68q6nrnd08mvbf9r@4ax.com>...
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
Notice how carefully the WashPost avoids sourcing those words from 1969.
Thurlow has addressed the question of whether or not he wrote the report
of enemy fire. He says he did not. It is now the reponsibility of the
WashPost to question John Kerry fully on the matter. Did Kerry write
the reports himself? John Kerry must come clean both on his Bronze Star
and on his "Christmas in Cambodia".
Sorry, it's up to the accuser to prove the accusation. Outrageous
claims demand solid proof.
Further, John Kerry must immediately cease his viscious attacks on
decorated war heroes.
In other words, "lay back and learn to enjoy it". Typical.
_s
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| User: "james dorfu" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
19 Aug 2004 03:59:37 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:47:07 -0700, Spottiswood wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:29:38 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:19 -0700, jwk wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<a288i0d06ld98e1j8t68q6nrnd08mvbf9r@4ax.com>...
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
Notice how carefully the WashPost avoids sourcing those words from 1969.
Thurlow has addressed the question of whether or not he wrote the report
of enemy fire. He says he did not. It is now the reponsibility of the
WashPost to question John Kerry fully on the matter. Did Kerry write
the reports himself? John Kerry must come clean both on his Bronze Star
and on his "Christmas in Cambodia".
Sorry, it's up to the accuser to prove the accusation. Outrageous
claims demand solid proof.
Are you afraid to have the media ask Kerry who wrote the report?
--
Thursday is this week's annual "Pork Chops for Islam" day.
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20 Aug 2004 12:36:03 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:59:37 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
Are you afraid to have the media ask
One of the SwiftLiars got a medal beacause the bullets were flying
around that day. He didn't refuse the medal then, he didn't correct
the reports then. Either lied to the military to keep the medal or he
lied in the ads. Either way he is a liar.
5 boats went out, 5 officers on them. One came back with a hole in it
to explain.
The SwiftLiars gave their reports on the day of the incident. Kerry
towed one disabled craft home so we know they arrived at base
together. If they LIED THAT DAY, that is the lie they are stuck with.
If they TOLD THE TRUTH THAT DAY then they lied in their ads. Either
way you have liars. Look at their records first. What did they say on
the day they made their reports.
Why aren't they releasing their records?
We have established these are FELONY FRAUD LIARS. Now look at the
records of everybody else involved in this FELONY FRAUD. Look at
Merrie Spaeth whose thankfully dead husband, Tex Lezar, ran on the
same ticket that got GWB the governors mansion in Texas. This guy's
name is on a NCPA list on the internet with six known organized crime
felon's who specialize in FRAUD of the body politic. Don't know who
Spaeth is? She was a 'Monica', a whitehouse fellow, in the same
building where Nancy Reagan used to sneak off to the Lincoln bedroom
with Frank Sinatra. She also is the organizer of the first wave of
publicity for these FELONY FRAUD SWIFT BOAT ORGANIZED CRIME OPERATORS.
Demand Spaeth's records. Demand Lezar's records. Demand the
Lezar-Spaeth crime family friend's records.
There's a whole lot of records that Bob Perry is going to be
producing. Every federal and state agency will be on him like stink on
*****, making him produce records. You don't fund a CRIME OPERATION and
walk into the sunset whistling Dixie. Spaeth, and all, did a hatchet
job on McCain and robbed the republican party of his candidacy, but
they tangled with tougher meat than they know how to chew now.
Demand Bob Perry's records.
You want records. I'll release records. Read 'em and weep... Your
whole stinking organized crime network laid out so that even dumbfuk
jurors can follow without any shadow of a doubt.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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| User: "Spottiswood" |
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19 Aug 2004 04:40:22 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:59:37 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:47:07 -0700, Spottiswood wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:29:38 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:19 -0700, jwk wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<a288i0d06ld98e1j8t68q6nrnd08mvbf9r@4ax.com>...
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
Notice how carefully the WashPost avoids sourcing those words from 1969.
Thurlow has addressed the question of whether or not he wrote the report
of enemy fire. He says he did not. It is now the reponsibility of the
WashPost to question John Kerry fully on the matter. Did Kerry write
the reports himself? John Kerry must come clean both on his Bronze Star
and on his "Christmas in Cambodia".
Sorry, it's up to the accuser to prove the accusation. Outrageous
claims demand solid proof.
Are you afraid to have the media ask Kerry who wrote the report?
Are you afraid to have the "Swift Boat Vets" proved liars who can't
even back up their own allegations, much less keep them coherent
without twists of logic that would amaze even Sherlock Holmes?
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| User: "" |
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19 Aug 2004 05:20:20 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:40:22 -0700, Spottiswood
<spottiswood@pointyheadedgeeks.org.invalid> wrote:
Are you afraid to have the media ask Kerry who wrote the report?
Are you afraid to have the "Swift Boat Vets" proved liars who can't
even back up their own allegations, much less keep them coherent
without twists of logic that would amaze even Sherlock Holmes?
I gotta say I find the "I never read my commendation" from the latest
lying vet rather incredible.
_______
Vote Bush/Voldemort 2004!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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19 Aug 2004 10:33:03 PM |
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In our last thrilling episode, was pushed over
the cliffs of alt.atheism on Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:20:20 GMT by Zoog,
minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
I gotta say I find the "I never read my commendation" from the latest
lying vet rather incredible.
LOL! When I got an ARCOM, I read the commendation attached to it!
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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20 Aug 2004 12:37:56 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:20:20 GMT, wrote:
I gotta say I find the "I never read my commendation" from the latest
lying vet rather incredible.
_______
One of the SwiftLiars got a medal beacause the bullets were flying
around that day. He didn't refuse the medal then, he didn't correct
the reports then. Either lied to the military to keep the medal or he
lied in the ads. Either way he is a liar.
5 boats went out, 5 officers on them. One came back with a hole in it
to explain.
The SwiftLiars gave their reports on the day of the incident. Kerry
towed one disabled craft home so we know they arrived at base
together. If they LIED THAT DAY, that is the lie they are stuck with.
If they TOLD THE TRUTH THAT DAY then they lied in their ads. Either
way you have liars. Look at their records first. What did they say on
the day they made their reports.
Why aren't they releasing their records?
We have established these are FELONY FRAUD LIARS. Now look at the
records of everybody else involved in this FELONY FRAUD. Look at
Merrie Spaeth whose thankfully dead husband, Tex Lezar, ran on the
same ticket that got GWB the governors mansion in Texas. This guy's
name is on a NCPA list on the internet with six known organized crime
felon's who specialize in FRAUD of the body politic. Don't know who
Spaeth is? She was a 'Monica', a whitehouse fellow, in the same
building where Nancy Reagan used to sneak off to the Lincoln bedroom
with Frank Sinatra. She also is the organizer of the first wave of
publicity for these FELONY FRAUD SWIFT BOAT ORGANIZED CRIME OPERATORS.
Demand Spaeth's records. Demand Lezar's records. Demand the
Lezar-Spaeth crime family friend's records.
There's a whole lot of records that Bob Perry is going to be
producing. Every federal and state agency will be on him like stink on
*****, making him produce records. You don't fund a CRIME OPERATION and
walk into the sunset whistling Dixie. Spaeth, and all, did a hatchet
job on McCain and robbed the republican party of his candidacy, but
they tangled with tougher meat than they know how to chew now.
Demand Bob Perry's records.
You want records. I'll release records. Read 'em and weep... Your
whole stinking organized crime network laid out so that even dumbfuk
jurors can follow without any shadow of a doubt.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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| User: "james dorfu" |
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19 Aug 2004 04:50:55 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:40:22 -0700, Spottiswood wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:59:37 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:47:07 -0700, Spottiswood wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:29:38 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:19 -0700, jwk wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<a288i0d06ld98e1j8t68q6nrnd08mvbf9r@4ax.com>...
Some links
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040819/pl_washpost/a13267_2004aug18
This Thurlow guy was the one responsible for submitting the reports.
He got his own Bronze Star from the same action Kerry did (on the
other boat). Yet now he claims that Kerry "must have" written the
report and that he never read his own citation. (Apparently, because
he claims he doesn't know what it said and has since "lost" it.) He
is one of the worse liars I ever heard of. (At least that other guy,
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, realized he couldn't lie well after he
contradicted himself several times, and now refuses to talk to the
press.) Either way, if either what this Thurlow says now is true, or
what he said then is true, he is a liar and possibly criminal. He he.
Notice how carefully the WashPost avoids sourcing those words from 1969.
Thurlow has addressed the question of whether or not he wrote the report
of enemy fire. He says he did not. It is now the reponsibility of the
WashPost to question John Kerry fully on the matter. Did Kerry write
the reports himself? John Kerry must come clean both on his Bronze Star
and on his "Christmas in Cambodia".
Sorry, it's up to the accuser to prove the accusation. Outrageous
claims demand solid proof.
Are you afraid to have the media ask Kerry who wrote the report?
Are you afraid to have the "Swift Boat Vets" proved liars who can't
even back up their own allegations, much less keep them coherent
without twists of logic that would amaze even Sherlock Holmes?
I am exceedingly willing to have the stories of both sides closely
examined, to have both Kerry and those who accuse him of being a liar
closely and publicly questioned on the details of their stories, and to
have all relevant military records released to the public. Are you also so
willing? And again, are you afraid to have the media ask Kerry who wrote
the report?
--
Thursday is this week's annual "Pork Chops for Islam" day.
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| User: "Walter Scott" |
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19 Aug 2004 07:18:09 PM |
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Are you willing, James, to have President Bush explain why he does not
openly join Thurlow's group in their campaign yet will not renounce or
denounce their ads? Will you have Thurlow explain why he did not
recall, until the Post's FOIA request regarding the incident at issue,
that the text of his commendation mentioned enemy fire or the details
of how he "lost" his commendation some years ago and, if if he did,
forgot that it mentioned enemy fire then testified in deposition that
there was no enemy fire without reconciling the text of the
commendation? Will you ask Thurlow's veterans group to explain what,
if any, their relationship is to a Texas benefactor who is a prominent
Republican? If you're so willing to have the facts displayed before
the public at large and to be fair, where was your interest in the
latter early this year ("Re: Alex Does Her Monica for Kerry") when the
***** assertion of Kerry having an affair with Alexandra Polier
broke? Why isn't this just another instance of your promulgating
similar crap?
References:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2004.02.16.20.30.10.849618%40yahoo.com&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2004.02.14.15.31.12.924674%40yahoo.com&output=gplain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2004.02.16.19.31.45.501518%40yahoo.com&output=gplain
In article <pan.2004.08.19.21.50.47.670979@edu.nospam.msu> on Thu, 19
Aug 2004 14:50:55 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu> wrote:
And again, are you afraid to have the media ask Kerry who wrote
the report?
The search for truth requires the courage to accept it.
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| User: "Ric Hamiprojo" |
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19 Aug 2004 09:56:37 PM |
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Are you willing, James, to have President Bush explain why he does not
openly join Thurlow's group in their campaign yet will not renounce or
denounce their ads? Will you have Thurlow explain why he did not
It is not the job of a standing President to censor free speech, nor is it
wise for a wanna-be president or his thugs to censor free speech. Bush has
made it clear that swift boat vets do not speak for him, and the veterans
have made it clear that they do not care what Bush thinks. Beyond that,
this is a matter of free speech. In fact, how will you ever know the truth
if these men are silenced without due process?
Pretending that this is about the campaign is your attempt to deny yourself.
Deep in your heart, you have to admit that you are entranced by these
accusations and you want to know *all* the facts. You realize that the
accusations must be based on a large grain of truth, since these men would
not risk the wrath of someone likely to control the CIA and FBI very soon if
the accusation were easily disproved. You understand that the accusations
have had remarkable staying power, and you wonder why they have not been
thoroughly discredited yet. You acknowledge that Kerry refuses to answer
direct questions, the press hesitates to ask, and there are still many
questions in the air.
You must admit that YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH, and furthermore YOU WANT TO
KNOW THE TRUTH. Do the right thing, and ask your newspaper to investigate
the matter fully, and provide us with *all* the facts. The truth is the
only thing that can satisfy you, and the only thing that will put this story
to rest for good.
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| User: "jwk" |
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20 Aug 2004 08:48:29 AM |
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"Ric Hamiprojo" <rich@eskimo.co.in> wrote in message news:<FLdVc.49227$TI1.14027@attbi_s52>...
Are you willing, James, to have President Bush explain why he does not
openly join Thurlow's group in their campaign yet will not renounce or
denounce their ads? Will you have Thurlow explain why he did not
It is not the job of a standing President to censor free speech, nor is it
wise for a wanna-be president or his thugs to censor free speech. Bush has
made it clear that swift boat vets do not speak for him, and the veterans
have made it clear that they do not care what Bush thinks. Beyond that,
this is a matter of free speech. In fact, how will you ever know the truth
if these men are silenced without due process?
Pretending that this is about the campaign is your attempt to deny yourself.
Deep in your heart, you have to admit that you are entranced by these
accusations and you want to know *all* the facts. You realize that the
accusations must be based on a large grain of truth, since these men would
not risk the wrath of someone likely to control the CIA and FBI very soon if
the accusation were easily disproved. You understand that the accusations
have had remarkable staying power, and you wonder why they have not been
thoroughly discredited yet. You acknowledge that Kerry refuses to answer
direct questions, the press hesitates to ask, and there are still many
questions in the air.
You must admit that YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH, and furthermore YOU WANT TO
KNOW THE TRUTH. Do the right thing, and ask your newspaper to investigate
the matter fully, and provide us with *all* the facts. The truth is the
only thing that can satisfy you, and the only thing that will put this story
to rest for good.
The implication here is that the Washington Post is hiding something.
The Post is one of the nations most prestigious papers. They are
thoughtful and through in their investigations. The implication that
they are investigating enough or that they are taking sides is absurd.
They jealously guard their reputation for straight, non-partisan
reporting. Reasonable people are not going to buy the notion that the
Post isn't doing its job. If they could get more info (if more info
existed) they would. If there were questions that they could not get
a response for, they would point it out. (That's why you see
"so-and-so could not be reached for comment" so often, but usually
from the GOP side.)
jwk
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21 Aug 2004 03:42:58 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2004 06:48:29 -0700, (jwk) wrote:
The implication here is that the Washington Post is hiding something.
The Post is one of the nations most prestigious papers. They are
thoughtful and through in their investigations. The implication that
they are investigating enough or that they are taking sides is absurd.
They jealously guard their reputation for straight, non-partisan
reporting. Reasonable people are not going to buy the notion that the
Post isn't doing its job. If they could get more info (if more info
existed) they would. If there were questions that they could not get
a response for, they would point it out. (That's why you see
"so-and-so could not be reached for comment" so often, but usually
from the GOP side.)
Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37 http://tinyurl.com/54lqw
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gd
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdy http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3c http://tinyurl.com/63zvu
http://tinyurl.com/43fek
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery http://tinyurl.com/4vrwq http://tinyurl.com/496xl
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board, http://tinyurl.com/5afl5 http://tinyurl.com/6l7vn
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt http://tinyurl.com/6kaso
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7dd http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://tinyurl.com/6xnut
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf http://tinyurl.com/5szod
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqd
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://tinyurl.com/5l66z
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz
*** Dr. Louis Letson http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's. http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 Google.com Results 6,000 for "Heritage
Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000 http://tinyurl.com/68tqj Google.com Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j Google.com Results 1,920 for "American
Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000 http://tinyurl.com/3tg26
Google.com Results 2,880 for "Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs Google.com Results about 2,590 for "Citizens
for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500 http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 Google.com
Results 1,920 for "Cato Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy Google.com Results 2,550 for "National Center
for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000 http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae
Google.com Results 2,670 for "Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR
Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn Google.com Results 2,550 for "Competitive
Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 Google.com Results 2,480 for "American
Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000 http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc
Google.com Results 2,440 for "Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat
OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000 http://tinyurl.com/46hys
Google.com Results 5,240 for "Media Research Center" Swift boat OR
Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000 http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3
Google.com Results 2,450 for "Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat
OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000 http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 Google.com
Results 1,200 for "Media Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g Google.com Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
*** http://tinyurl.com/55jrw Results 42,600 for "Washington Times"
Swift boat OR Boats.
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20 Aug 2004 12:06:17 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:56:37 GMT, "Ric Hamiprojo" <rich@eskimo.co.in>
wrote:
Bush has
made it clear that swift boat vets do not speak for him, and the veterans
have made it clear that they do not care what Bush thinks.
and yet . . .
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html
"Records show that the group received the bulk of its initial
financing from two men with ties to the president and his family - one
a longtime political associate of Mr. Rove's, the other a trustee of
the foundation for Mr. Bush's father's presidential library. A Texas
publicist who once helped prepare Mr. Bush's father for his debate
when he was running for vice president provided them with strategic
advice. And the group's television commercial was produced by the same
team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an
oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the
1988 presidential election."
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Vote Bush/Voldemort 2004!
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| User: "james dorfu" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 12:17:56 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:06:17 +0000, retrogrouch wrote:
....... the group's television commercial was produced by the same
team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an
oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the
1988 presidential election."
You are right. This is very much like the Dukakis meltdown. Kerry is one
cvooked poodle!
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Thursday is this week's annual "Pork Chops for Islam" day.
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| User: "Raph Bartowski" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 12:55:08 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:17:56 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:06:17 +0000, retrogrouch wrote:
....... the group's television commercial was produced by the same
team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an
oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the
1988 presidential election."
You are right. This is very much like the Dukakis meltdown. Kerry is one
cvooked poodle!
You folks keep declaring victory but it still hasn't happened. Must be
frustrating for you.
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| User: "james dorfu" |
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20 Aug 2004 01:01:32 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:55:08 -0700, Raph Bartowski wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:17:56 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:06:17 +0000, retrogrouch wrote:
....... the group's television commercial was produced by the same
team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an
oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the
1988 presidential election."
You are right. This is very much like the Dukakis meltdown. Kerry is one
cvooked poodle!
You folks keep declaring victory but it still hasn't happened. Must be
frustrating for you.
Perhaps you believe that Kerry's call for the banning of the book is a
sign of his winning? Perhaps you also agree that the book should be
banned?
--
Thursday is this week's annual "Pork Chops for Islam" day.
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| User: "Raph Bartowski" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 01:37:25 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:01:32 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:55:08 -0700, Raph Bartowski wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:17:56 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:06:17 +0000, retrogrouch wrote:
....... the group's television commercial was produced by the same
team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an
oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the
1988 presidential election."
You are right. This is very much like the Dukakis meltdown. Kerry is one
cvooked poodle!
You folks keep declaring victory but it still hasn't happened. Must be
frustrating for you.
Perhaps you believe that Kerry's call for the banning of the book is a
sign of his winning? Perhaps you also agree that the book should be
banned?
Of course you (and others on the RNC talking point circuit) use loaded
words like "banning" when neither Kerry nor his campaign has any power
to have a book banned nor a reasonable expectation that it would be.
What they have done is request that the publisher not distribute the
book. Why they may have done this may have more to do with legalities
and protecting Kerry's right to sue for libel in future. Had he not
requested the publisher cease and desist, the courts might say he had
not exercised due diligence in trying to prevent the spread of the
libel and had not attempted to protect his name if he did sue at a
later date.
Even if he does not intend to sue in future, his lawyers would advise
him to protect his right to do so.
dance away...
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21 Aug 2004 03:45:40 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:37:25 -0700, Raph Bartowski
<raphie@nospam.here.us> wrote:
Of course you (and others on the RNC talking point circuit) use loaded
words like "banning" when neither Kerry nor his campaign has any power
to have a book banned nor a reasonable expectation that it would be.
What they have done is request that the publisher not distribute the
book. Why they may have done this may have more to do with legalities
and protecting Kerry's right to sue for libel in future. Had he not
requested the publisher cease and desist, the courts might say he had
not exercised due diligence in trying to prevent the spread of the
libel and had not attempted to protect his name if he did sue at a
later date.
Even if he does not intend to sue in future, his lawyers would advise
him to protect his right to do so.
dance away...
Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37 http://tinyurl.com/54lqw
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gd
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdy http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3c http://tinyurl.com/63zvu
http://tinyurl.com/43fek
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery http://tinyurl.com/4vrwq http://tinyurl.com/496xl
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board, http://tinyurl.com/5afl5 http://tinyurl.com/6l7vn
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt http://tinyurl.com/6kaso
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7dd http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://tinyurl.com/6xnut
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf http://tinyurl.com/5szod
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqd
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://tinyurl.com/5l66z
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz
*** Dr. Louis Letson http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's. http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 Google.com Results 6,000 for "Heritage
Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000 http://tinyurl.com/68tqj Google.com Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j Google.com Results 1,920 for "American
Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000 http://tinyurl.com/3tg26
Google.com Results 2,880 for "Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs Google.com Results about 2,590 for "Citizens
for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500 http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 Google.com
Results 1,920 for "Cato Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy Google.com Results 2,550 for "National Center
for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000 http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae
Google.com Results 2,670 for "Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR
Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn Google.com Results 2,550 for "Competitive
Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 Google.com Results 2,480 for "American
Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000 http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc
Google.com Results 2,440 for "Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat
OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000 http://tinyurl.com/46hys
Google.com Results 5,240 for "Media Research Center" Swift boat OR
Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000 http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3
Google.com Results 2,450 for "Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat
OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000 http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 Google.com
Results 1,200 for "Media Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g Google.com Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
*** http://tinyurl.com/55jrw Results 42,600 for "Washington Times"
Swift boat OR Boats.
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| User: "james dorfu" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 01:58:44 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:37:25 -0700, Raph Bartowski wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:01:32 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:55:08 -0700, Raph Bartowski wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:17:56 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:06:17 +0000, retrogrouch wrote:
....... the group's television commercial was produced by the same
team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an
oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the
1988 presidential election."
You are right. This is very much like the Dukakis meltdown. Kerry is one
cvooked poodle!
You folks keep declaring victory but it still hasn't happened. Must be
frustrating for you.
Perhaps you believe that Kerry's call for the banning of the book is a
sign of his winning? Perhaps you also agree that the book should be
banned?
Of course you (and others on the RNC talking point circuit) use loaded
words like "banning" when neither Kerry nor his campaign has any power
to have a book banned nor a reasonable expectation that it would be.
What such a call for banning shows is the same thing shown when Kerry says
that what he tells you is "All you need to know!" It shows he is unfit for
the presidency.
--
Thursday is this week's annual "Pork Chops for Islam" day.
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
21 Aug 2004 03:46:12 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:58:44 -0700, james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu>
wrote:
What such a call for banning shows is
Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37 http://tinyurl.com/54lqw
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gd
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdy http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3c http://tinyurl.com/63zvu
http://tinyurl.com/43fek
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery http://tinyurl.com/4vrwq http://tinyurl.com/496xl
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board, http://tinyurl.com/5afl5 http://tinyurl.com/6l7vn
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt http://tinyurl.com/6kaso
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7dd http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://tinyurl.com/6xnut
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf http://tinyurl.com/5szod
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqd
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://tinyurl.com/5l66z
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz
*** Dr. Louis Letson http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's. http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 Google.com Results 6,000 for "Heritage
Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000 http://tinyurl.com/68tqj Google.com Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j Google.com Results 1,920 for "American
Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000 http://tinyurl.com/3tg26
Google.com Results 2,880 for "Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs Google.com Results about 2,590 for "Citizens
for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500 http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 Google.com
Results 1,920 for "Cato Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy Google.com Results 2,550 for "National Center
for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000 http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae
Google.com Results 2,670 for "Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR
Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn Google.com Results 2,550 for "Competitive
Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 Google.com Results 2,480 for "American
Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000 http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc
Google.com Results 2,440 for "Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat
OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000 http://tinyurl.com/46hys
Google.com Results 5,240 for "Media Research Center" Swift boat OR
Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000 http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3
Google.com Results 2,450 for "Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat
OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000 http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 Google.com
Results 1,200 for "Media Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g Google.com Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
*** http://tinyurl.com/55jrw Results 42,600 for "Washington Times"
Swift boat OR Boats.
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
20 Aug 2004 03:00:21 PM |
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james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu> wrote:
http://breaking.examiner.ie/2004/08/20/story162747.html
What such a call for banning shows is [..]
What call for banning?
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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