Religions > Atheism > Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:46:07 PM |
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Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most
vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate
of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own
version of events.
In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who
commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly
disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came
under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March
13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.
But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released
yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act,
contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons
fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won
his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for
providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets
flying about him."
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I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was
released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the
backing of more than 250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of
Kerry's fellow boat commanders.
A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his
actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG
THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the
disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units
in the flotilla also came under fire.
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Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that
Kerry was the author of an after-action report that described how his
boat came under enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that
assertion, and there is no convincing documentary evidence to settle
the argument. As the senior skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might
have been expected to write the after-action report for March 13, but
he said that Kerry routinely "duked the system" to present his version
of events.
For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand
what was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down
the river after the mine exploded under another boat. He later
returned to provide assistance to the stricken boat.
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Yang
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a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
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The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -951 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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23 Aug 2004 06:38:59 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:24:41 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
The New York Times looked into the allegations in 2002 and concluded
that the time Mr. Bush missed had been made up satisfactorily and that
his records showed his having performed all the required service.
George Magazine looked into the story as well and concluded that there
were two documents in George Bush's records that indicated that he
accumulated 56 points toward his required minimum of 50 points
necessary to be regarded as a guardsman at the time that is in
question.
I don't believe you. Your kind say that the New York Times is
undependable and can't be trusted.
Using George Magazine to substantiate your claim?
lol
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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24 Aug 2004 12:36:54 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:38:59 -0400, Eris
<vithant01@antispm.comcast.net> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:24:41 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
The New York Times looked into the allegations in 2002 and concluded
that the time Mr. Bush missed had been made up satisfactorily and that
his records showed his having performed all the required service.
George Magazine looked into the story as well and concluded that there
were two documents in George Bush's records that indicated that he
accumulated 56 points toward his required minimum of 50 points
necessary to be regarded as a guardsman at the time that is in
question.
I don't believe you. Your kind say that the New York Times is
undependable and can't be trusted.
Using George Magazine to substantiate your claim?
lol
I use Left Wingnut references because you'd never believe articles
from NewsMax or Worldnet Daily.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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22 Aug 2004 12:06:38 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:38 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:44:16 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:36:11 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee are closed
and attendance records of those meetings aren't public, hinting that his
attendance might have been better at the non-public proceedings. But Kerry
could ask that his attendance records be made public, and hasn't.
And he should do so, just as soon as Bush makes his National Guard
attendance records public.
Things you have to get over.
When President Bush was absent from the Guard, troops were being sent
home from Vietnam, not deployed.
AWOL. Dodged. The. Draft.
President Bush has more than made up the time for absences thus
fulfilling his commitment to the Guard.
Your proof? Oh, that's right, you don;t have any.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Michael Marxist Moore" |
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| Title: Kerry honored at communist museum!!!!!!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!! |
22 Aug 2004 01:28:08 PM |
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Kerry honored at communist museum!!!!!!! LIBERALS HATE
AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
Photograph hangs in section devoted to war protesters
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Posted: June 1, 2004
12:14 p.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A Ho Chi Minh City museum that honors Vietnam war protesters features
a photograph of Sen. John Kerry being greeted by the general secretary
of the Communist Party, Comrade Do Muoi.
A snapshot of the display in the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants
Museum - formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum" - was acquired over
the weekend by Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth, a
group opposing Kerry's campaign for the presidency.
Vietnam veteran Bill Lupetti took this photograph of a display at a Ho
Chi Minh City museum honoring war protesters.
A spokesman with Kerry's national campaign did not return a call from
WND seeking comment.
The snapshot of the display, which depicts a July 1993 meeting, was
forwarded to Epstein by Bob Shirley, one of more than 200 members of
Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth who signed an open letter
questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as commander in chief.
Epstein said the picture of the display was taken by Bill Lupetti, a
Swift Boat Veteran who currently is visiting Vietnam.
Epstein said the display photograph's "unquestionable significance
lies in its placement in the American protesters' section of the War
Crimes Museum" in Ho Chi Minh City, the former Saigon.
"The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's
contributions to their victory," he said. "This find can be compared
to the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a
place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945."
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Below the display photograph are explanatory placards in English,
French, Vietnamese and Chinese.
The English placard reads: "Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the
Vietnamese Communist Party met with Congressman and Veterans
Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)."
Epstein's group says the exhibit refutes Kerry's insistence his
anti-war protests did not render support to the enemy in time of war.
"The Vietnamese communists clearly feel that the American anti-war
protesters were a very important force in undermining support in the
United States for American war efforts, a force that contributed
materially to ultimate communist victory in 1975," the group said in a
statement.
Vietnam Vets for the Truth says it was established to organize a rally
publicizing "Kerry's lies" during the "Winter Soldier" hearings in the
U.S. Senate in 1971. The rally, called "Kerry Lied," will be held on
Capitol Hill Sept. 12.
The Swift Boat Veterans also have called on Kerry to stop unauthorized
use of their images in national campaign advertising.The group says
only two of the 20 officers in one photo support him and 11 have
signed the letter condemning the candidate.
One veteran in the photo, William Shumadine, said Kerry's use of the
photo "is a complete misrepresentation to the public and a total
fraud."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com./news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38738
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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22 Aug 2004 06:54:22 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:28:08 -0400, Michael Marxist Moore
<mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote:
Fresh Links to Republican FELONY FRAUD SmearBoats villians
HOT NEWS! Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
LATEST NEWS - August 22, 2004
** http://tinyurl.com/639as veteran working to help re-elect incumbent
president George W. Bush resigned
** http://tinyurl.com/5w7by More Republican Ties Revealed Behind
"Swift Boat Vets For Bush"
** http://tinyurl.com/6wre9 Bush Campaign Drops Swift Boat Ad Figure
-- Cordier's connection to the Bush campaign was made public yesterday
by the Kerry campaign, which found that Cordier had been named on the
Bush Web site earlier this month as a member of the veterans committee
** http://tinyurl.com/4gs53 Cordier was SWFT and GOP operative at same
time. Kenneth Cordier, a retired colonel ... who appeared in an
advertisement to be aired by the anti-Kerry group, SWVT, would on
longer serve in his voluntary position on President George W. Bush's
veterans steering committee.
** http://tinyurl.com/5telj Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas,
chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that while the
group had "every right" to express their opinion, "WE OUGHT TO GET OUT
OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BUSINESS."
NEWS - August 21, 2004
**
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4fyem Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete And Flawed
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-040821rood,1,1611037.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6wvtm Anti-Kerry vets not there that day
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040821kerry,1,7582568.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6v4no Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong --
Tribune editor breaks long silence on Kerry record; fought in disputed
battle
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/08/21/MNGE08C6V11.DTL
http://tinyurl.com/45xfx Kerry's Vietnam-era testimony criticized in
new attack ad -- Democrat counters with endorsement by retired general
** http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-camp21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jjth Dems see link to Swift Boat Vets, Bush-Cheney
----------------------------------
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of Philip Morris
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*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
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http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060011
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/4vrwqGOOGLE.COM Results 482 for "John E. O'Neill"
Colson.
http://tinyurl.com/496xl
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board,
http://tinyurl.com/5afl5
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Holdings.
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swift.
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt
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swift.
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
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& Potholm" swift.
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*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill
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http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
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Publishing" Richard Mellon Scaife.
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
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http://tinyurl.com/5l66z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408110007
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http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
*** Dr. Louis Letson
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http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr
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http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
http://www.underzealous.com/index.php/2004/08/13/p522
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's.
http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6344
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
Scaife thrall organization and Scaife leash-dollars put in it:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 6,000 for
"Heritage Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000
http://tinyurl.com/68tqj GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for
"American Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000
http://tinyurl.com/3tg26 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,880 for
"Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs GOOGLE.COM Results Results about 2,590 for
"Citizens for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500
http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for "Cato
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"National Center for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000
http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,670 for
"Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"Competitive Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,480 for
"American Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000
http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,440 for
"Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000
http://tinyurl.com/46hys GOOGLE.COM Results Results 5,240 for "Media
Research Center" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000
http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,450 for
"Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000
http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,200 for "Media
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <
http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
***
http://tinyurl.com/55jrwGOOGLE.COM Results 42,600 for "Washington
Times" Swift boat OR Boats.
SUN MYUNG MOON uses "CHURCH PROPERTY", helps create 42,600 webpages
circulating LIES.
Kerry honored at communist museum!!!!!!! LIBERALS HATE
AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
Photograph hangs in section devoted to war protesters
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Posted: June 1, 2004
12:14 p.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A Ho Chi Minh City museum that honors Vietnam war protesters features
a photograph of Sen. John Kerry being greeted by the general secretary
of the Communist Party, Comrade Do Muoi.
A snapshot of the display in the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants
Museum - formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum" - was acquired over
the weekend by Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth, a
group opposing Kerry's campaign for the presidency.
Vietnam veteran Bill Lupetti took this photograph of a display at a Ho
Chi Minh City museum honoring war protesters.
A spokesman with Kerry's national campaign did not return a call from
WND seeking comment.
The snapshot of the display, which depicts a July 1993 meeting, was
forwarded to Epstein by Bob Shirley, one of more than 200 members of
Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth who signed an open letter
questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as commander in chief.
Epstein said the picture of the display was taken by Bill Lupetti, a
Swift Boat Veteran who currently is visiting Vietnam.
Epstein said the display photograph's "unquestionable significance
lies in its placement in the American protesters' section of the War
Crimes Museum" in Ho Chi Minh City, the former Saigon.
"The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's
contributions to their victory," he said. "This find can be compared
to the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a
place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945."
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Below the display photograph are explanatory placards in English,
French, Vietnamese and Chinese.
The English placard reads: "Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the
Vietnamese Communist Party met with Congressman and Veterans
Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)."
Epstein's group says the exhibit refutes Kerry's insistence his
anti-war protests did not render support to the enemy in time of war.
"The Vietnamese communists clearly feel that the American anti-war
protesters were a very important force in undermining support in the
United States for American war efforts, a force that contributed
materially to ultimate communist victory in 1975," the group said in a
statement.
Vietnam Vets for the Truth says it was established to organize a rally
publicizing "Kerry's lies" during the "Winter Soldier" hearings in the
U.S. Senate in 1971. The rally, called "Kerry Lied," will be held on
Capitol Hill Sept. 12.
The Swift Boat Veterans also have called on Kerry to stop unauthorized
use of their images in national campaign advertising.The group says
only two of the 20 officers in one photo support him and 11 have
signed the letter condemning the candidate.
One veteran in the photo, William Shumadine, said Kerry's use of the
photo "is a complete misrepresentation to the public and a total
fraud."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com./news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38738
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
23 Aug 2004 06:21:46 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:06:38 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:38 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:44:16 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:36:11 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee are closed
and attendance records of those meetings aren't public, hinting that his
attendance might have been better at the non-public proceedings. But Kerry
could ask that his attendance records be made public, and hasn't.
And he should do so, just as soon as Bush makes his National Guard
attendance records public.
Things you have to get over.
When President Bush was absent from the Guard, troops were being sent
home from Vietnam, not deployed.
AWOL. Dodged. The. Draft.
That's a first. I didn't know they gave honorable discharges to those
AWOL.
President Bush has more than made up the time for absences thus
fulfilling his commitment to the Guard.
Your proof? Oh, that's right, you don;t have any.
It has been mentioned before h has made up lost time.
-----
The New York Times looked into the allegations in 2002 and concluded
that the time Mr. Bush missed had been made up satisfactorily and that
his records showed his having performed all the required service.
George Magazine looked into the story as well and concluded that there
were two documents in George Bush's records that indicated that he
accumulated 56 points toward his required minimum of 50 points
necessary to be regarded as a guardsman at the time that is in
question.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bush-desert.htm
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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24 Aug 2004 03:22:32 PM |
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VRWC Destruction Machine wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:06:38 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:38 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:44:16 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:36:11 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee are closed
and attendance records of those meetings aren't public, hinting that his
attendance might have been better at the non-public proceedings. But Kerry
could ask that his attendance records be made public, and hasn't.
And he should do so, just as soon as Bush makes his National Guard
attendance records public.
Things you have to get over.
When President Bush was absent from the Guard, troops were being sent
home from Vietnam, not deployed.
AWOL. Dodged. The. Draft.
That's a first. I didn't know they gave honorable discharges to those
AWOL.
President Bush has more than made up the time for absences thus
fulfilling his commitment to the Guard.
Your proof? Oh, that's right, you don;t have any.
It has been mentioned before h has made up lost time.
-----
The New York Times looked into the allegations in 2002 and concluded
that the time Mr. Bush missed had been made up satisfactorily and that
his records showed his having performed all the required service.
George Magazine looked into the story as well and concluded that there
were two documents in George Bush's records that indicated that he
accumulated 56 points toward his required minimum of 50 points
necessary to be regarded as a guardsman at the time that is in
question.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bush-desert.htm
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
However, GW is STILL an AWOL/deserter in all REAL
respects of the terms.
Trust a right wing ***** like VRWC to support
the sorry little ***** even if we have a photo
of him screwing a sheep.
--
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful.
And so are we..
Our enemies never stop thinking about ways to harm our country and our
people.
And neither do we.."
-George W. Bush, August 5, 2002
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25 Aug 2004 03:02:36 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:22:32 -0600, Ipgay AcilbuperNay <_> wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:06:38 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:38 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:44:16 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:36:11 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee are closed
and attendance records of those meetings aren't public, hinting that his
attendance might have been better at the non-public proceedings. But Kerry
could ask that his attendance records be made public, and hasn't.
And he should do so, just as soon as Bush makes his National Guard
attendance records public.
Things you have to get over.
When President Bush was absent from the Guard, troops were being sent
home from Vietnam, not deployed.
AWOL. Dodged. The. Draft.
That's a first. I didn't know they gave honorable discharges to those
AWOL.
President Bush has more than made up the time for absences thus
fulfilling his commitment to the Guard.
Your proof? Oh, that's right, you don;t have any.
It has been mentioned before h has made up lost time.
-----
The New York Times looked into the allegations in 2002 and concluded
that the time Mr. Bush missed had been made up satisfactorily and that
his records showed his having performed all the required service.
George Magazine looked into the story as well and concluded that there
were two documents in George Bush's records that indicated that he
accumulated 56 points toward his required minimum of 50 points
necessary to be regarded as a guardsman at the time that is in
question.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bush-desert.htm
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
However, GW is STILL an AWOL/deserter in all REAL
respects of the terms.
Trust a right wing ***** like VRWC to support
the sorry little ***** even if we have a photo
of him screwing a sheep.
Usenet's Girly-boy speaks.
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
.
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23 Aug 2004 06:28:03 PM |
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VRWC Destruction Machine wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:06:38 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:38 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:44:16 GMT, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:36:11 GMT, "Jim"
<KerrycallsVeteransMurderers@socialist.com> wrote:
Kerry points out that most meetings of the Intelligence Committee
are closed and attendance records of those meetings aren't
public, hinting that his attendance might have been better at the
non-public proceedings. But Kerry could ask that his attendance
records be made public, and hasn't.
And he should do so, just as soon as Bush makes his National Guard
attendance records public.
Things you have to get over.
When President Bush was absent from the Guard, troops were being
sent home from Vietnam, not deployed.
AWOL. Dodged. The. Draft.
That's a first. I didn't know they gave honorable discharges to those
AWOL.
President Bush has more than made up the time for absences thus
fulfilling his commitment to the Guard.
Your proof? Oh, that's right, you don;t have any.
It has been mentioned before h has made up lost time.
-----
The New York Times looked into the allegations in 2002 and concluded
that the time Mr. Bush missed had been made up satisfactorily and that
his records showed his having performed all the required service.
George Magazine looked into the story as well and concluded that there
were two documents in George Bush's records that indicated that he
accumulated 56 points toward his required minimum of 50 points
necessary to be regarded as a guardsman at the time that is in
question.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bush-desert.htm
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
24 Aug 2004 12:34:51 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
24 Aug 2004 12:50:31 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
24 Aug 2004 10:46:28 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
24 Aug 2004 02:19:23 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
25 Aug 2004 02:57:56 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
25 Aug 2004 02:43:05 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
26 Aug 2004 06:08:21 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
-
Mitchell Holman writes: Is that why you hide behind
a trite anonymous handle?
When asked, "Who gives a rat's ***** who Mitchell
Holman is?"
Little Mitchie-boy runs away from the question
like Bill Clinton and the draft.
On 6-01-04 Adam Albright wrote:
You don't have a clue do you. I had a IQ of 170... in the 8th grade.
Einstein scored roughly 240. Most people (depending on test) fall
within .,..
Ask Not-So-Bright what was the name of the IQ test
that gave him a 170 IQ.
He can't be that bright.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
26 Aug 2004 08:01:40 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
27 Aug 2004 11:18:56 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:40 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
The PDB was inconclusive.
-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
27 Aug 2004 02:33:50 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:18:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:40 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
The PDB was inconclusive.
What part of "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US" is
unclear?
.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
28 Aug 2004 11:11:43 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:33:50 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:18:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:40 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
The PDB was inconclusive.
What part of "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US" is
unclear?
There were no specifics. Was President Bush suppose to lock down the
whole country? He had one month to that, right? Get real.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
28 Aug 2004 01:03:47 PM |
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"VRWC Destruction Machine" <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:33:50 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:18:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:40 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He
is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows
him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed
the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings,
especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
The PDB was inconclusive.
What part of "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US" is
unclear?
There were no specifics. Was President Bush suppose to lock down the
whole country? He had one month to that, right? Get real.
We've been through this so many times now, even a stupid ***** like
Constipation Machine should be able to understand it. Oh well, his ignorance
is willful!
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
28 Aug 2004 05:06:00 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:11:43 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:33:50 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:18:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:40 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
The PDB was inconclusive.
What part of "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US" is
unclear?
There were no specifics. Was President Bush suppose to lock down the
whole country? He had one month to that, right? Get real.
The problem is not that he didn't lock down the country, the problem
is that he did absolutely nothing, and continued to ignore Richard
Clarke's pleas to hold a principals meeting to discuss the Al Qaeda
threat.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
29 Aug 2004 08:25:56 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:06:00 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:11:43 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:33:50 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:18:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:01:40 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:08:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:05 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:57:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:23 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:46:28 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:50:31 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings
Maybe he should pay attention to them sometime; he sure missed the
boat on the one dated August 6th, 2001.
Which was?
You may have heard it mentioned during the 9/11 hearings, especially
during Condi Rice's testimony. It was the one entitled "Bin Laden
determined to attack inside the US".
Give some quotes from the testimony.
You can't paste the phrase into Google yourself?
You made the assertion. Complete it or run away.
Err, excuse me. That the PDB from 8/6/01 was indeed entitled that is
well-established. For example:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
That it would come up during National Security Advisor Condi Rice's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission is hardly surprising. What
exactly is your point? My assertion was not in regards to Rice's
testimony, but that Bush clearly missed the boat on that particular
PDB, as the hole in the ground in lower Manhattan that I see fairly
often would tend to indicate.
The PDB was inconclusive.
What part of "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US" is
unclear?
There were no specifics. Was President Bush suppose to lock down the
whole country? He had one month to that, right? Get real.
The problem is not that he didn't lock down the country, the problem
is that he did absolutely nothing, and continued to ignore Richard
Clarke's pleas to hold a principals meeting to discuss the Al Qaeda
threat.
Bill Clinton also got a strong warning that bin Laden wanted to
hijack planes. On Dec. 4, 1998, Clinton was presented with a
President's Daily Brief (PDB) with the eye-catching title "Bin Laden
Preparing to Hijack U.S. Aircraft and other attacks," Newsweek has
reported.
The PDB, which has just been declassified, was prompted by a British
intelligence report that the son of the Egyptian "blind sheik" Omar
Abdel- Rahman -- who had been convicted of a plot to blow up New York
City landmarks -- proposed to hijack airplanes and ransom the
passengers in exchange for his father's release.
It looks like Clinton's PDB was a bit more specific.
Richard Clarke has been discredited in many articles which blew the
wind out of the Dummycrat sails.
All in all, it doesn't explain Kerry's poor attendance while being
part of the intelligence committee hearings.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
30 Aug 2004 02:24:29 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:25:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
Richard Clarke has been discredited in many articles which blew the
wind out of the Dummycrat sails.
What parts of his book were factually incorrect?
All in all, it doesn't explain Kerry's poor attendance while being
part of the intelligence committee hearings.
Except that claims are being made that Kerry was absent from
closed-door hearings at which the attendance records are kept secret.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
30 Aug 2004 06:38:21 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:24:29 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:25:56 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
Richard Clarke has been discredited in many articles which blew the
wind out of the Dummycrat sails.
What parts of his book were factually incorrect?
I n one instance Clarke totally fabricates a position he attributes
to Laurie Mylroie, author of Study Of Revenge (2000), and then he use
his own fabrication to discredit that author's position.
On p.95 of his Against All Enemies, Clarke states that "author"
Laurie Mylroie had asserted that the real "Ramzi Yousef was not in
the federal Metropolitan Detention Center in Manhattan but lounging at
the right hand of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad." He then debunks this
"thesis" by stating that, in fact, Ramzi Yousef "had been in a U.S.
jail for years," which was true.
Obviously, if Yousef had been in prison in America, he could not
be in Baghdad at the right hand of Saddam, and Mylroie's theory would
be demonstratively untrue-- a discreditation Clarke considers
important enough to feature on the dust jacket of his book, noting
that prior to 9-11 "[Paul] Wolfowitz was actually spouting the totally
discredited Laurie Mylroie theory."
The problem here is that the straw man Clarke demolishes is an
invention entirely of his own creation. Mylroie did not write anything
remotely like it before 9-11 (or after it). On the contrary, she
explicitly states on p. 212 of her book Study Of Revenge, "Ramzi
Yousef was arrested and returned to the U.S. on February 7, 1995."
While she questions the provenance of documents he used prior to his
capture in 1995, she does not claim in her book or any other writing
that Yousef resides anywhere but a maximum security federal prison.
Clarke himself makes up the absurd assertion Yousef was in
Baghdad with Saddam, falsely attributes it to Mylroie, then uses it to
discredit Mylroie.
All in all, it doesn't explain Kerry's poor attendance while being
part of the intelligence committee hearings.
Except that claims are being made that Kerry was absent from
closed-door hearings at which the attendance records are kept secret.
The Bush Campaign has put out in ads and Kerry hasn't responded.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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| User: "raven1" |
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30 Aug 2004 07:43:56 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:38:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
Except that claims are being made that Kerry was absent from
closed-door hearings at which the attendance records are kept secret.
The Bush Campaign has put out in ads and Kerry hasn't responded.
IOW, the Bush campaign is making claims that they would have NO
POSSIBLE WAY OF KNOWING. Thanks for being so straightforward.
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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31 Aug 2004 09:50:16 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:43:56 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:38:21 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
Except that claims are being made that Kerry was absent from
closed-door hearings at which the attendance records are kept secret.
The Bush Campaign has put out in ads and Kerry hasn't responded.
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