Religions > Atheism > Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:46:07 PM |
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Smearboat Liars Caught In Own Lies, According to Navy Records |
Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most
vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate
of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own
version of events.
In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who
commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly
disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came
under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March
13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.
But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released
yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act,
contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons
fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won
his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for
providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets
flying about him."
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I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was
released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the
backing of more than 250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of
Kerry's fellow boat commanders.
A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his
actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG
THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the
disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units
in the flotilla also came under fire.
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Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that
Kerry was the author of an after-action report that described how his
boat came under enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that
assertion, and there is no convincing documentary evidence to settle
the argument. As the senior skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might
have been expected to write the after-action report for March 13, but
he said that Kerry routinely "duked the system" to present his version
of events.
For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand
what was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down
the river after the mine exploded under another boat. He later
returned to provide assistance to the stricken boat.
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Yang
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25 Aug 2004 02:59:46 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:32:01 GMT, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:34:51 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on vacation
42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
Yeah I saw them all out there while he was golfing and fishing.
You must also be ignorant what goes on.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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24 Aug 2004 02:01:33 PM |
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him. He
is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key cabinet
members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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25 Aug 2004 03:01:08 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:01:33 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him. He
is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key cabinet
members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Whose 42% evaluation is that? Must be from a Liberal moron.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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25 Aug 2004 10:45:30 AM |
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:01:33 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Whose 42% evaluation is that? Must be from a Liberal moron.
Charles Krauthammer said it here:
<http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer081301.asp>
"Washington Post supercomputers calculated that if you add up all his
weekends at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted to-ing
and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency "at
vacation spots or en route.""
If the 42% number is incorrect, please offer a more accurate statistic.
Thank you.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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26 Aug 2004 06:34:18 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:45:30 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:01:33 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Whose 42% evaluation is that? Must be from a Liberal moron.
As I pointed out the President never has a day off. He gets briefings
every morning of his presidency. Of course, you wouldn't know about
taking your work with you, every where you go.
Charles Krauthammer said it here:
<http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer081301.asp>
"Washington Post supercomputers calculated that if you add up all his
weekends at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted to-ing
and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency "at
vacation spots or en route.""
Why does the Post need a supercomputer to come up with their 42%
figure.? Was the use of supercomputers was for embellishment of the
story?I guess the Post needs a supercomputer to add 2+2.
Supercomputers are used to solve problems that are too complex or too
massive for standard computers, like calculating how individual
molecules move in a tornado, or forecasting detailed weather patterns.
Some supercomputers are single computers consisting of multiple
processors; others are clusters of computers that work together.
Using supercomputers is a bit overkill, but it sounds gnarly to the
liberal wonk.
The Krauthammer did mention,
"The guy left town on a Saturday and by Monday there was a USA
Today/CNN/Gallup poll showing that 55 percent of Americans thought he
was taking too much time off."
Get a grip.
If the 42% number is incorrect, please offer a more accurate statistic.
Thank you.
I'd like to know what data they used to arrive at that figure.
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You know one thing. It doesn't justify Kerry missing intelligence
committee meetings and Kerry missing from the majority of Senate votes
this past year.
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Mitchell Holman writes: Is that why you hide behind
a trite anonymous handle?
When asked, "Who gives a rat's ***** who Mitchell
Holman is?"
Little Mitchie-boy runs away from the question
like Bill Clinton and the draft.
On 6-01-04 Adam Albright wrote:
You don't have a clue do you. I had a IQ of 170... in the 8th grade.
Einstein scored roughly 240. Most people (depending on test) fall
within .,..
Ask Not-So-Bright what was the name of the IQ test
that gave him a 170 IQ.
He can't be that bright.
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| User: "Emmi H." |
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26 Aug 2004 11:05:36 PM |
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In article <ocrsi0l4rham2t3n94nqo5lirv478l3bhk@4ax.com>,
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:45:30 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:01:33 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Whose 42% evaluation is that? Must be from a Liberal moron.
As I pointed out the President never has a day off. He gets briefings
every morning of his presidency. Of course, you wouldn't know about
taking your work with you, every where you go.
Bear in mind that 'on call 24/7/365' doesn't mean squat to the minority
in an election year, VRWC.
"VRWC??"
'Virtual Reality Water Closet?'
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Emmi H.
"He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
- Winston Churchill
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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27 Aug 2004 01:27:01 PM |
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Emmi H. <hugnkiss98122MYBLOUSE@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <ocrsi0l4rham2t3n94nqo5lirv478l3bhk@4ax.com>,
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
[..]
As I pointed out the President never has a day off. He gets briefings
every morning of his presidency. Of course, you wouldn't know about
taking your work with you, every where you go.
Bear in mind that 'on call 24/7/365' doesn't mean squat to the minority
in an election year, VRWC.
It hasn't seemed to mean much to Bush for the past 3+ years, either.
"VRWC??"
'Virtual Reality Water Closet?'
'Vast Right-Wing Cunnilinugs.'
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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26 Aug 2004 09:39:59 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:34:18 -0700, VRWC Destruction Machine
<VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
As I pointed out the President never has a day off. He gets briefings
every morning of his presidency. Of course, you wouldn't know about
taking your work with you, every where you go.
"Now watch me hit this drive!"
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Vote Bush/Voldemort 2004!
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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26 Aug 2004 07:46:51 PM |
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
Charles Krauthammer said it here:
<http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer081301.asp>
"Washington Post supercomputers calculated that if you add up all his
weekends at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted to-ing
and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency "at
vacation spots or en route.""
Why does the Post need a supercomputer to come up with their 42% figure.?
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, Mr. Destructo-Machine. Then
again, depending on which definition of the term you use, a
consumer-level Macintosh is a supercomputer.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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24 Aug 2004 05:00:48 PM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj0ukx.1jtlxxrsq1dztN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him. He
is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key cabinet
members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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24 Aug 2004 07:36:43 PM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj0ukx.1jtlxxrsq1dztN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't you?
I know I would.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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25 Aug 2004 01:19:58 AM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj19za.4vt2bmtgksddN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj0ukx.1jtlxxrsq1dztN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't you?
Does he have a 4 year contract?
I know I would.
Isn't Bush the CEO?
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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25 Aug 2004 01:36:27 AM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is
on vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows
him. He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact
with key cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't you?
Does he have a 4 year contract?
I know I would.
Isn't Bush the CEO?
Nope. The people are the CEO. Bush is our underling.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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25 Aug 2004 10:28:47 AM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj1qtf.14gt2591ox4eqaN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj19za.4vt2bmtgksddN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is
on vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows
him. He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact
with key cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't you?
Does he have a 4 year contract?
I know I would.
Isn't Bush the CEO?
Nope. The people are the CEO. Bush is our underling.
Wouldn't we be more like the board of directors. There are some people
that think Bush is doing a great job. I don't think a CEO could
function well with that pronounced of a MPD.
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25 Aug 2004 10:52:33 AM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is
on vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows
him. He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact
with key cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't you?
Does he have a 4 year contract?
I know I would.
Isn't Bush the CEO?
Nope. The people are the CEO. Bush is our underling.
Wouldn't we be more like the board of directors.
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "acetyl" |
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25 Aug 2004 11:01:56 AM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John"
<nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House.
He is
on vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House
follows
him. He is never without daily briefings and never out of
contact
with key cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of
business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be
resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run
by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he
spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't
you?
Does he have a 4 year contract?
I know I would.
Isn't Bush the CEO?
Nope. The people are the CEO. Bush is our underling.
Wouldn't we be more like the board of directors.
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
except that the 42% # includes WEEKENDS considered as "vacation"
whit
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"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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acetyl <acet@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
except that the 42% # includes WEEKENDS considered as "vacation"
Cite.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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25 Aug 2004 11:08:37 AM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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acetyl <acet@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and
hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
except that the 42% # includes WEEKENDS considered as "vacation"
Cite.
i'll cite krauthammer, that YOU posted
don't you read what you post?
jeez, paul
(relevant words highlighted by "*")
whit
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VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:01:33 -0700, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is on
vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows him.
He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact with key
cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Whose 42% evaluation is that? Must be from a Liberal moron.
Charles Krauthammer said it here:
<http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer081301.asp>
"Washington Post supercomputers calculated that if you add up all his
******weekends****** at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted
to-ing
and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency "at
vacation spots or en route.""
If the 42% number is incorrect, please offer a more accurate statistic.
Thank you.
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25 Aug 2004 11:37:08 AM |
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acetyl <acet@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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acetyl <acet@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
news:1gj2gch.59h2nhxq1krfN%usenet@mile23.c0m...
[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and
hacking at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
except that the 42% # includes WEEKENDS considered as "vacation"
Cite.
i'll cite krauthammer, that YOU posted
[..]
(relevant words highlighted by "*")
Charles Krauthammer said it here:
<http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer081301.asp>
"Washington Post supercomputers calculated that if you add up all his
******weekends****** at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted
to-ing and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency "at
vacation spots or en route.""
Weekends ******AT CAMP DAVID******
don't you read what you post?
jeez, paul
You said the number included weekends, implying *all* weekends. I asked
for a cite, because the cite I offered didn't include *all* weekends.
Perhaps you should rein in your attitude.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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25 Aug 2004 05:23:31 PM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj2gch.59h2nhxq1krfN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj1qtf.14gt2591ox4eqaN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj19za.4vt2bmtgksddN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj0ukx.1jtlxxrsq1dztN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
VRWC Destruction Machine <VRWC_USA@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:28:03 -0700, "John" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
What about Bushs record of being AWOL in the White House. He is
on vacation 42% of the year.
Every time a President leaves the White, The White House follows
him. He is never without daily briefings and never out of contact
with key cabinet members. Of course, you didn't know that.
If you were working in an office and your boss spent 42% of business
hours playing golf while you did all the work, you'd be resentful.
Who on Bush's staff is resentful?
Ok, ok. You're right. Here's a better example:
If you were the CEO of a company, and you had one department run by some
guy who managed to put his department into the biggest debt ever
recorded in your company's history, and then you found out he spent 42%
of business hours playing golf, you'd fire the *****, wouldn't you?
Does he have a 4 year contract?
I know I would.
Isn't Bush the CEO?
Nope. The people are the CEO. Bush is our underling.
Wouldn't we be more like the board of directors.
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
You'd rather he spent an extra 42%, or even more, proposing laws,
executive orders and appointing judges? Are you trying to tell me
that's what you'd rather he did or are you just full of *****?
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25 Aug 2004 06:12:47 PM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj2gch.59h2nhxq1krfN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
You'd rather he spent an extra 42%, or even more, proposing laws,
executive orders and appointing judges? Are you trying to tell me that's
what you'd rather he did or are you just full of *****?
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the incompetent
to do is simply let those more competent than themselves get all the
work done. However, this administration has proved to be a grand circus
of incompetence.
That said, I'd prefer that Bush spend his time working to... oh, say...
repair diplomatic ties he fucked up, figure out what to do with the
economy he fucked up, figure out how to control the damage caused by his
fucked-up war, and generally learn how not to be a radical fuckup.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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26 Aug 2004 11:01:26 AM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj2gch.59h2nhxq1krfN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
You'd rather he spent an extra 42%, or even more, proposing laws,
executive orders and appointing judges? Are you trying to tell me that's
what you'd rather he did or are you just full of *****?
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the incompetent
to do is simply let those more competent than themselves get all the
work done. However, this administration has proved to be a grand circus
of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president because he
stole Republican ideas.
That said, I'd prefer that Bush spend his time working to... oh, say...
repair diplomatic ties he fucked up, figure out what to do with the
economy he fucked up, figure out how to control the damage caused by his
fucked-up war, and generally learn how not to be a radical fuckup.
Once again...
You believe the country is majorly screwed, maybe like never before
and you also believe that Bush is competent enough to fix it?
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
26 Aug 2004 02:31:46 PM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj2gch.59h2nhxq1krfN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
You'd rather he spent an extra 42%, or even more, proposing laws,
executive orders and appointing judges? Are you trying to tell me
that's what you'd rather he did or are you just full of *****?
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the incompetent
to do is simply let those more competent than themselves get all the
work done. However, this administration has proved to be a grand circus
of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president because he
stole Republican ideas.
No, it'd be like me claiming Bush and his administration are
astonishingly bad for the country.
That said, I'd prefer that Bush spend his time working to... oh, say...
repair diplomatic ties he fucked up, figure out what to do with the
economy he fucked up, figure out how to control the damage caused by his
fucked-up war, and generally learn how not to be a radical fuckup.
Once again...
You believe the country is majorly screwed, maybe like never before and
you also believe that Bush is competent enough to fix it?
You're asking if the guy who broke it in the first place is the one
qualified to fix it. Reminds me of the time someone broke into my car
through the window, and then his brother gave me a business card for his
auto window repair business.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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27 Aug 2004 11:49:05 AM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj4jk7.ws23541q83hr8N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj2gch.59h2nhxq1krfN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
Whatever the metaphor, 42% of office time spent playing golf and hacking
at shrubs is pretty fucked up.
You'd rather he spent an extra 42%, or even more, proposing laws,
executive orders and appointing judges? Are you trying to tell me
that's what you'd rather he did or are you just full of *****?
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the incompetent
to do is simply let those more competent than themselves get all the
work done. However, this administration has proved to be a grand circus
of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president because he
stole Republican ideas.
No, it'd be like me claiming Bush and his administration are
astonishingly bad for the country.
And you want him to work harder at being bad. That doesn't make sense.
That said, I'd prefer that Bush spend his time working to... oh, say...
repair diplomatic ties he fucked up, figure out what to do with the
economy he fucked up, figure out how to control the damage caused by his
fucked-up war, and generally learn how not to be a radical fuckup.
Once again...
You believe the country is majorly screwed, maybe like never before and
you also believe that Bush is competent enough to fix it?
You're asking if the guy who broke it in the first place is the one
qualified to fix it. Reminds me of the time someone broke into my car
through the window, and then his brother gave me a business card for his
auto window repair business.
So you are implying that Bush is an expert at breaking things down and
then building them back up for - I'm guessing here - some type of
personal political or economic gain? Maybe not political else he
wouldn't be an expert or he'd be way ahead in the polls.
So why is he doing this?
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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27 Aug 2004 01:27:01 PM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj4jk7.ws23541q83hr8N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the
incompetent to do is simply let those more competent than themselves
get all the work done. However, this administration has proved to be
a grand circus of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president because he
stole Republican ideas.
No, it'd be like me claiming Bush and his administration are
astonishingly bad for the country.
And you want him to work harder at being bad. That doesn't make sense.
Nope. I want him to have worked harder at being good, and I want his
administration - people like Cheney and Rice and Powell - to have done a
better job, too. Unfortunately, their fuckups are faits accomplis, and
since BushCo administration seems to be a place without consequence for
fuckups, the voters will have to take responsibility for meting out
those consequences in November.
That said, I'd prefer that Bush spend his time working to... oh,
say... repair diplomatic ties he fucked up, figure out what to do
with the economy he fucked up, figure out how to control the damage
caused by his fucked-up war, and generally learn how not to be a
radical fuckup.
Once again...
You believe the country is majorly screwed, maybe like never before
and you also believe that Bush is competent enough to fix it?
You're asking if the guy who broke it in the first place is the one
qualified to fix it. Reminds me of the time someone broke into my car
through the window, and then his brother gave me a business card for his
auto window repair business.
So you are implying that Bush is an expert at breaking things down and
then building them back up for - I'm guessing here - some type of personal
political or economic gain? Maybe not political else he wouldn't be an
expert or he'd be way ahead in the polls.
So why is he doing this?
There are a bunch of ways to answer that. The point here is that if you,
as a voter, want *even the remotest possibiltiy of* peace, prosperity,
smaller government, less debt, lower real taxes, intelligence,
leadership chops, democratic ideals, transparency, and an end to general
pigheadedness in the office of the president, then you have to vote
*against* Bush.
But if you want to discuss *why* BushCo has fucked up our country,
you'll have to concede that BushCo *has* fucked up our country first.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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27 Aug 2004 04:44:11 PM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj6aos.pswg7h1evn9s0N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj4jk7.ws23541q83hr8N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the
incompetent to do is simply let those more competent than themselves
get all the work done. However, this administration has proved to be
a grand circus of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president because he
stole Republican ideas.
No, it'd be like me claiming Bush and his administration are
astonishingly bad for the country.
And you want him to work harder at being bad. That doesn't make sense.
Nope. I want him to have worked harder at being good, and I want his
administration - people like Cheney and Rice and Powell - to have done a
better job, too.
If they do this they'll be re-elected. You want that?
Unfortunately, their fuckups are faits accomplis, and
since BushCo administration seems to be a place without consequence for
fuckups, the voters will have to take responsibility for meting out
those consequences in November.
That said, I'd prefer that Bush spend his time working to... oh,
say... repair diplomatic ties he fucked up, figure out what to do
with the economy he fucked up, figure out how to control the damage
caused by his fucked-up war, and generally learn how not to be a
radical fuckup.
Once again...
You believe the country is majorly screwed, maybe like never before
and you also believe that Bush is competent enough to fix it?
You're asking if the guy who broke it in the first place is the one
qualified to fix it. Reminds me of the time someone broke into my car
through the window, and then his brother gave me a business card for his
auto window repair business.
So you are implying that Bush is an expert at breaking things down and
then building them back up for - I'm guessing here - some type of personal
political or economic gain? Maybe not political else he wouldn't be an
expert or he'd be way ahead in the polls.
So why is he doing this?
There are a bunch of ways to answer that. The point here is that if you,
as a voter, want *even the remotest possibiltiy of* peace, prosperity,
smaller government, less debt, lower real taxes, intelligence,
leadership chops, democratic ideals, transparency, and an end to general
pigheadedness in the office of the president, then you have to vote
*against* Bush.
Kerry is going to fix all that? I thought he was the same thing with a
different label.
Now Ralph Nader, there's someone who *would* fix all those things.
But if you want to discuss *why* BushCo has fucked up our country,
you'll have to concede that BushCo *has* fucked up our country first.
Of course, this is from a certain perspective. I'm humming along as I
have for the last 20 years without a bump. I may have a different
perspective if I'd lost my job to the Chinese.
Maybe you can tell me how BushCo has fucked up things for me and
chances are I'll tell you why it was actually beneficial me. Thanks.
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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27 Aug 2004 07:40:59 PM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj6aos.pswg7h1evn9s0N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj4jk7.ws23541q83hr8N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the
incompetent to do is simply let those more competent than
themselves get all the work done. However, this administration
has proved to be a grand circus of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president
because he stole Republican ideas.
No, it'd be like me claiming Bush and his administration are
astonishingly bad for the country.
And you want him to work harder at being bad. That doesn't make sense.
Nope. I want him to have worked harder at being good, and I want his
administration - people like Cheney and Rice and Powell - to have done a
better job, too.
If they do this they'll be re-elected. You want that?
Unless they have a time machine, they *can't* do it.
[..]
So you are implying that Bush is an expert at breaking things down and
then building them back up for - I'm guessing here - some type of
personal political or economic gain? Maybe not political else he
wouldn't be an expert or he'd be way ahead in the polls.
So why is he doing this?
There are a bunch of ways to answer that. The point here is that if you,
as a voter, want *even the remotest possibiltiy of* peace, prosperity,
smaller government, less debt, lower real taxes, intelligence,
leadership chops, democratic ideals, transparency, and an end to general
pigheadedness in the office of the president, then you have to vote
*against* Bush.
Kerry is going to fix all that? I thought he was the same thing with a
different label.
Now Ralph Nader, there's someone who *would* fix all those things.
What part of 'even the remotest possibility' don't you understand?
But if you want to discuss *why* BushCo has fucked up our country,
you'll have to concede that BushCo *has* fucked up our country first.
Of course, this is from a certain perspective. I'm humming along as I have
for the last 20 years without a bump. I may have a different perspective
if I'd lost my job to the Chinese.
Maybe you can tell me how BushCo has fucked up things for me and chances
are I'll tell you why it was actually beneficial me. Thanks.
Can't you read? I said Bush fucked up our country, and I meant it. Not
just you, and not just me, but the country.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
28 Aug 2004 11:43:00 AM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj6ten.1916m6xw23ngaN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj6aos.pswg7h1evn9s0N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj4jk7.ws23541q83hr8N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
You make a good point, that perhaps the best thing for the
incompetent to do is simply let those more competent than
themselves get all the work done. However, this administration
has proved to be a grand circus of incompetence.
It'd be like me complaining that Clinton is a bad president
because he stole Republican ideas.
No, it'd be like me claiming Bush and his administration are
astonishingly bad for the country.
And you want him to work harder at being bad. That doesn't make sense.
Nope. I want him to have worked harder at being good, and I want his
administration - people like Cheney and Rice and Powell - to have done a
better job, too.
If they do this they'll be re-elected. You want that?
Unless they have a time machine, they *can't* do it.
If they can't fix whatever they've messed up how can you be certain
someone else can?
So you are implying that Bush is an expert at breaking things down and
then building them back up for - I'm guessing here - some type of
personal political or economic gain? Maybe not political else he
wouldn't be an expert or he'd be way ahead in the polls.
So why is he doing this?
There are a bunch of ways to answer that. The point here is that if you,
as a voter, want *even the remotest possibiltiy of* peace, prosperity,
smaller government, less debt, lower real taxes, intelligence,
leadership chops, democratic ideals, transparency, and an end to general
pigheadedness in the office of the president, then you have to vote
*against* Bush.
Kerry is going to fix all that? I thought he was the same thing with a
different label.
Now Ralph Nader, there's someone who *would* fix all those things.
What part of 'even the remotest possibility' don't you understand?
If it's not a remote possibility that Nader will win the election,
what is it?
But if you want to discuss *why* BushCo has fucked up our country,
you'll have to concede that BushCo *has* fucked up our country first.
Of course, this is from a certain perspective. I'm humming along as I have
for the last 20 years without a bump. I may have a different perspective
if I'd lost my job to the Chinese.
Maybe you can tell me how BushCo has fucked up things for me and chances
are I'll tell you why it was actually beneficial me. Thanks.
Can't you read? I said Bush fucked up our country, and I meant it. Not
just you, and not just me, but the country.
So you aren't interested at all in presenting an opinion why someone
other than Bush is a better canidate? Maybe then you can just tell me
how Bush fucked up the country for you?
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
28 Aug 2004 03:02:17 PM |
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Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj6ten.1916m6xw23ngaN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
But if you want to discuss *why* BushCo has fucked up our country,
you'll have to concede that BushCo *has* fucked up our country first.
Of course, this is from a certain perspective. I'm humming along as I have
for the last 20 years without a bump. I may have a different perspective
if I'd lost my job to the Chinese.
Maybe you can tell me how BushCo has fucked up things for me and chances
are I'll tell you why it was actually beneficial me. Thanks.
Can't you read? I said Bush fucked up our country, and I meant it. Not
just you, and not just me, but the country.
So you aren't interested at all in presenting an opinion why someone other
than Bush is a better canidate? Maybe then you can just tell me how Bush
fucked up the country for you?
Well, just a few posts ago, I said this:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%25usenet%40
mile23.c0m&output=gplain>
Too bad you're unable to follow a conversation.
--
"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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| User: "Al" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings |
29 Aug 2004 11:56:46 PM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message news:<1gj8bcf.7vq9v1nwjytyN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Al <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in message
news:<1gj6ten.1916m6xw23ngaN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
[..]
But if you want to discuss *why* BushCo has fucked up our country,
you'll have to concede that BushCo *has* fucked up our country first.
Of course, this is from a certain perspective. I'm humming along as I have
for the last 20 years without a bump. I may have a different perspective
if I'd lost my job to the Chinese.
Maybe you can tell me how BushCo has fucked up things for me and chances
are I'll tell you why it was actually beneficial me. Thanks.
Can't you read? I said Bush fucked up our country, and I meant it. Not
just you, and not just me, but the country.
So you aren't interested at all in presenting an opinion why someone other
than Bush is a better canidate? Maybe then you can just tell me how Bush
fucked up the country for you?
Well, just a few posts ago, I said this:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1gj30g9.11xsmzvxwmnc6N%25usenet%40
mile23.c0m&output=gplain>
Too bad you're unable to follow a conversation.
My experience so far has been when the points you bring up are
directly addressed -1) Diplomatic Ties, 2) Bad Economy, 3) Bad War -
their complaints fall flat.
1) How have diplomatic ties been hurt?
2) How is the economy messed up when it is comparable to the one
Clinton had in 1996 when he was re-elected?
3) The two wars prosecuted by Bush have been the fastest, most
successful, with the least amount of casualties in the history of the
world. How is that bad?
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