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"Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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06 Jul 2006 08:46:03 PM |
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(Smokers) Does God Let Them Into Heaven? |
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: (Smokers) Does God Let Them Into Heaven? |
07 Jul 2006 03:13:55 AM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet
That "would" explain the existence of theists
like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
"He" must have allegedly put "weed" on this planet too, and damn phyne
smoking it is too!!
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad
people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
Awwwww, ain't that so cuuuuute...
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Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 17/03/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| Title: Re: (Smokers) Does God Let Them Into Heaven? |
07 Jul 2006 03:04:50 PM |
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Ph=FFlt=EAr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
You have no proof, you must of had someone tell you there is no god and
your a follower not a leader, so you believed them.
How does it feel to be a brainwashed idiot?
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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07 Jul 2006 06:13:01 PM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152302690.285993.104070@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
The burden of proof is on the claimant, ie, the person claiming such and
such exists. Would you attempt to prove that there ISN'T an elephant in
my shirt pocket?
You have no proof, you must of had someone tell you there is no god
and
your a follower not a leader, so you believed them.
Incorrect assumption, I'm a misanthrope
How does it feel to be a brainwashed idiot?
Do tell.
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Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 17/03/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Jul 2006 06:06:01 AM |
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"Phÿltêr" wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152302690.285993.104070@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
The burden of proof is on the claimant, ie, the person claiming such and
such exists. Would you attempt to prove that there ISN'T an elephant in
my shirt pocket?
They become reduced to that pathetic state very frequently.
Their god comes from the mind of primitive man and nowhere else
You have no proof, you must of had someone tell you there is no god
and
your a follower not a leader, so you believed them.
Incorrect assumption, I'm a misanthrope
How does it feel to be a brainwashed idiot?
Do tell.
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Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 17/03/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Perkoff H. Christ" |
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07 Jul 2006 06:12:23 PM |
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Ph=FFlt=EAr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152302690.285993.104070@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ph=FFlt=EAr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
The burden of proof is on the claimant, ie, the person claiming such and
such exists. Would you attempt to prove that there ISN'T an elephant in
my shirt pocket?
I see no proof in your answer. Knew you had no proof and were just
bullshitting, which you proved with your latest ***** avoid the
question with a question post.
=20
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Jul 2006 06:09:01 AM |
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"Perkoff H. Christ" wrote:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152302690.285993.104070@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
The burden of proof is on the claimant, ie, the person claiming such and
such exists. Would you attempt to prove that there ISN'T an elephant in
my shirt pocket?
I see no proof in your answer. Knew you had no proof and were just
bullshitting, which you proved with your latest ***** avoid the
question with a question post.
If your Pastor tokd you to walk across a rope bridge between two buildings
which could not be seen would you do it, since it cannot be proved it is not
there?
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| User: "bob young" |
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14 Jul 2006 12:30:03 AM |
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The New Chris Assaf wrote:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152302690.285993.104070@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
The burden of proof is on the claimant, ie, the person claiming such and
such exists.
In the case of biographical info such as having a criminal justice
degree, being the only christian in a military unit full of atheists,
etc., the burden of proof is on the doubter.
ROFL try using that logic in your Courts of Law
ROFL again
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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07 Jul 2006 10:09:57 PM |
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On 7 Jul 2006 13:04:50 -0700, "Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com>
wrote:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
You have no proof, you must of had someone tell you there is no god and
your a follower not a leader, so you believed them.
How does it feel to be a brainwashed idiot?
I'd rather ask you that question. Al the more since the burden of
proof rests firmly on your strong shoulders.
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| User: "bob young" |
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14 Jul 2006 12:34:02 AM |
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Jos Flachs wrote:
On 7 Jul 2006 13:04:50 -0700, "Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com>
wrote:
Phÿltêr wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us
No there isn't
, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No there isn't
Prove it.
You have no proof, you must of had someone tell you there is no god and
your a follower not a leader, so you believed them.
How does it feel to be a brainwashed idiot?
I'd rather ask you that question. Al the more since the burden of
proof rests firmly on your strong shoulders.
Oh boy oh boy oh boy - if you had one snippet of proof of your invisible
god, you would quickly dispense with that weak argument.
I have been here for years and have lost count of the number of times
religionists are asked to prove their myths and all we get is the same old
tired 'you porve he does not exist'.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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06 Jul 2006 09:35:25 PM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in message
news:1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Nah, we don't know anything of the kind. There is
absolutely no evidence of the existence of any kind
of 'god'. There is no evidence of any kind of heaven
or hell. Chance points to neither existing.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
What 'creator "God"'? You assume too much. While
marijuana can be overdone recreationally, it can also
help people with serious medical problems. Why
should this affect people being accepted into your
fictional heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
How do you determine whether someone is good or
bad? Do you do this by considering who they've hurt
and how or simply by what it says in an old book of
myths written in bits and pieces over two thousand
years ago? Are they automatically 'bad' if they don't
believe 'on' some fictional failed rabbi from 2000
years ago? Are all their good deeds cancelled out
just because they don't believe in this character?
And, what is a bad word? Who determines this?
Nice troll. It gave me a chance to write some things
I've been wanting to write for awhile.
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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06 Jul 2006 08:49:13 PM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in news:1152236763.207489.56360@
75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
Believe what you want but it is evident that your programming is most
complete.
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| User: "Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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06 Jul 2006 08:52:12 PM |
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R. Pierce Butler wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in news:1152236763.207489.56360@
75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
Believe what you want but it is evident that your programming is most
complete.
Shut up, you lemming.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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07 Jul 2006 01:11:51 AM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152237132.633226.186180@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
R. Pierce Butler wrote:
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote in
news:1152236763.207489.56360@ 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad
people, good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say
bad words, bad people do all those things.
Believe what you want but it is evident that your programming is most
complete.
Shut up, you lemming.
You can't refute the evidence so you lash out like a 6 year old. You
aren't interested in an adult conversation, you are looking for
confirmation. Let me tell you a secret. There is no God, Jesus was quite
likely a myth and you have been brainwashed aka programmed.
Have a great day.
Pierce
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| User: "bob young" |
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07 Jul 2006 12:48:01 AM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us,
Ha ha, only because somebody [possibly your parents] told you so
we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No chance at all. When your great great grandpa was alive they were
totally convinced heaven was 'up thar above them thar clouds'
That is where we now fly commercial jets
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
Which god created us all? Did He create the millions of Hindus to have
them worship a god with a womans' body and the head of an elephant?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
I don't think that - i know it
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
No they do not, some murderers do not smoke, grow up
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| User: "Bart Goddard" |
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06 Jul 2006 09:02:39 PM |
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I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
The largest religion on the planet believes God gave us 10
commandments. NONE of these say anything about smoking,
drinking or cussing. So what possible basis can you have
for saying that smoking, drinking and cussing are "bad"?
Heck, let's start a list of popular religions that say
smoking is bad:
Islam,
Jehovah Witness
Mormon
Great company you're in.
B.
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The man without a .sig
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| User: "Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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07 Jul 2006 03:02:02 PM |
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Bart Goddard wrote:
IQ@158.com wrote:
Heck, let's start a list of popular religions that say
smoking is bad:
Islam,
Jehovah Witness
Mormon
Great company you're in.
B.
Judge not, lest ye be judged, Bart.
Notice that I did no judging. I just reported facts.
Again, you seem to be unable to read or think, which
is fine (since I don't judge you), but I point out
the interesting fact that these are talents not usually
missing in "IQ@148"
Very amusing.
Hey dancing idiot, why do you keep on snipping the groups this was
posted to? rec.sport.pro-wrestling, alt.smokers.cigars,
alt.atheism, rec.drugs.cannabis, alt.religion
I'm going to make it a point to keep adding them in, so, ah, yeah, you
poopy head.
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| User: "Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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06 Jul 2006 09:29:07 PM |
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Bart Goddard wrote:
steve@perkoff.com wrote:
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
The largest religion on the planet believes God gave us 10
commandments. NONE of these say anything about smoking,
drinking or cussing. So what possible basis can you have
for saying that smoking, drinking and cussing are "bad"?
Heck, let's start a list of popular religions that say
smoking is bad:
Islam,
Jehovah Witness
Mormon
Great company you're in.
B.
Oh so your religion is better than the ones you listed? That's not
very Christian of you, I hope that isn't the religion you are claiming,
cause you're giving us bad names.
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06 Jul 2006 09:56:37 PM |
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Oh so your religion is better than the ones you listed? That's not
very Christian of you,
On the contrary, a basic tenet of Christianity is that all
other religions are false. So if YOU are claiming to Christian,
you're giving the rest of us a bad name.
B.
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The man without a .sig
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| User: "Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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07 Jul 2006 02:59:52 PM |
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Bart Goddard wrote:
IQ@158.com wrote:
On the contrary, a basic tenet of Christianity is that all
other religions are false.
So everyone that died before Jesus was born is smoking a grogan in
hell right now?
For a guy who calls himself "IQ@158", your logical skills are
sorely lacking. It's quite a leap of illogic to assume that
a transtemporal being is, somehow, temporal.
B.
You realize you just fell for "it".
How dumb is a guy that can't even tell when someone's obviously fucking
with their simple mind?
The answer is as dumb as you.
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| User: "Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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07 Jul 2006 02:58:32 PM |
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Bart Goddard wrote:
steve@perkoff.com wrote:
Oh so your religion is better than the ones you listed? That's not
very Christian of you,
On the contrary, a basic tenet of Christianity is that all
other religions are false. So if YOU are claiming to Christian,
you're giving the rest of us a bad name.
B.
I'm just fucking with the losers of the atheism newsgroup, they always
have to defend their "god" which is no god. They get all worked up
over some guy obviously fucking with them.
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07 Jul 2006 02:36:48 AM |
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On 6 Jul 2006 19:29:07 -0700, "Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com>
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Oh so your religion is better than the ones you listed? That's not
very Christian of you, I hope that isn't the religion you are claiming,
cause you're giving us bad names.
No need for that. You do well on your own.
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11 Jul 2006 06:27:01 AM |
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Do I roll in flour and look for the wet spots.
http://groups.msn.com/styleman/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18
Jesus H. Perkoff wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
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| User: "johac" |
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07 Jul 2006 12:55:49 AM |
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In article <1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No. There is no evidence for gods.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
No. There is no evidence for gods.
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
If smoking, drinking, and cussing were the only 'bad' things, the world
would be a much better place.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Jesus H. Perkoff" |
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07 Jul 2006 03:02:22 PM |
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johac wrote:
In article <1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No. There is no evidence for gods.
Prove it.
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| User: "bob young" |
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09 Jul 2006 12:16:02 AM |
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"Jesus H. Perkoff" wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No. There is no evidence for gods.
Prove it.
and if he cannot prove it you will assume there is one?
How dumb
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08 Jul 2006 12:33:46 AM |
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In article <1152302541.937669.126210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <1152236763.207489.56360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Jesus H. Perkoff" <steve@perkoff.com> wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
No. There is no evidence for gods.
Prove it.
Don't have to. The burden of proof is on the one making the positive
statement. Let's see what you've got.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Ken Dixon" |
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06 Jul 2006 11:08:55 PM |
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Jesus H. Perkoff wrote:
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink
You just described Adolph Hitler's lifestyle which he insisted all
around him follow. Brilliant.
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| User: "Mark Marklar 2.0 - Because Vida Guerra SAID SO" |
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| Title: Re: (Smokers) Does God Let Them Into Heaven? |
07 Jul 2006 12:07:37 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:08:55 -0400, Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth.net>
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Jesus H. Perkoff wrote:
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink
You just described Adolph Hitler's lifestyle which he insisted all
around him follow. Brilliant.
Godwinned.
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I am not a sock.
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| User: "The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN" |
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| Title: Re: (Wankers) Does God Let Them Into Heaven? |
06 Jul 2006 09:54:33 PM |
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Jesus H. Perkoff wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
Well, that's me fucked then, isn't it?
bad people do all those things.
I ain't half bad, then.
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| User: "The New Chris Assaf" |
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| Title: Re: (Smokers) Does God Let Them Into Heaven? |
12 Jul 2006 06:58:23 PM |
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Jesus H. Perkoff wrote:
Ok, we all know there is a God who created us, we don't know for sure
that there is a heaven, but chances are that there are.
Do you think our creator "God" put bad things on this planet like
smoking to "weed" out those he doesn't want in heaven?
I personally think that there are good people and there are bad people,
good people don't do bad things like smoke or drink or say bad words,
bad people do all those things.
You forgot to mention that God doesn't like it when people disrespect
me or make smart aleck comments.
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